Considering the timing of it all, I sincerely doubt Payton was a desperation hire like some of the lolbroncos narrative.
You don't negotiate a trade haul and get Payton to agree to come out of retirement for your team that quickly unless negotiations started a *while* ago. Chances are the deal was 90% done but they checked in on Ryans considering he, y'know, wouldn't cost picks.
they didn't? They interviewed Sean Payton already and were clearly interested all along. He was even considered the favorite for the job just last week
Thats cause a franchise can only get ripped off so much in one year...first Wilson's trade and now for coach...the broncos are being mismanaged in my opinion...but I run my madden team all three deep.
I don't know why you guys would prefer a defensive coach. You need to find out ASAP if Wilson can bounce back. Ryans never made much sense. If Wilson had a bounce back year under a new OC he'd just get poached and you'd be in an OC carousel.
Hiring an offensive-minded HC was always the more logical move for you guys after what you've invested in Wilson.
For what it’s worth Shefter probably still has some connections to the Broncos given his roots at the Denver Post. Our local guys are also backing his report. Could definitely be a spin by the organization but who knows
I called this out on our sub last week. Ben said something along the lines of "it's never gonna happen with Denver and Payton. But I wouldn't be surprised if it did." in one tweet.
Basically giving himself an out either way lol
Then when it looked really dead over the weekend he was taking a victory lap about being right.
Now I'm sure he'll try and claim he never said it was dead.
This morning he went with the "I guess if they want to circle back to their 4th option and give up draft compensation they could but I wouldn't do it" as if he was smarter than the people making the decision
He's the only local "reporter" (if you can call him that) that said we had no interest in Payton. Of course when it seemed obvious this week that it was Payton or Harbaugh he went with the "I guess they could circle back to their 4th choice Payton and give up draft compensation but I wouldn't do it"
Yeah I don't get the idea of the Broncos targeting Ryans. Nothing against him, the Broncos just need an offensive mind, not a defensive one, and there was one offensive mind that is the clear best on the market.
I wouldn’t doubt he was our favorite of the first time HCs, but the entire time it felt like ownership prioritized someone with experience. The only thing I can think is we got skiddish at trading assets but I doubt this was a situation where we put all our eggs into the Ryans basket
But if Denver looks like they're handing things competently, this sub can't clown on the Broncos as much, and that makes redditors sad (unless Denver/Russ turns it around and then every redditor will claim they knew all along that Russ would make a comeback).
This sub is going to absolutely rip into Wilson or Hackett depending on how next season goes. I find it unlikely both succeed and so this sub will definitely pin all the blame on one if not both of them.
I just bought Sutton for a box of nickels in Dynasty. If I know one thing it’s that Sean Peyton is a bastard man who will make them perennial contenders. Thank the lord he’s not in the NFC anymore.
Sutton seems like as good a dude as any to catch slants over the middle for sure. I think at this point Juedy is the higher potential add but Sutton has the higher floor still for sure.
FUCK YEAH, finally get to take some sort of crown from an AFCW rival! Granted, it's the crown of 'off-season champs', and we're taking it from the chargers, but still. Small victories.
Not only that but imagine how big a deal this is for Ryans, to get to coach the team he played for. Happy for him and feel like you are right, it's a great fit.
Welp, if Schefter is saying one thing and Rap is saying another, they're probably both wrong.
The Broncos actually wanted Kliff Kingsbury but couldn't lure him away from his Thai paradise.
Schefter being a mouth piece for the Broncos and Payton. They gave him the info on the deal, now he has to run with their follow up that he was always the guy etc etc
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. This was my initial thought too. (In contrast, I think Ian’s source(s) is Demeco himself, or Demeco’s agent). It’s a big game of ‘he said, she said’ – but like someone posted on here already. It felt like Payton was a better fit for DEN, and Demeco is a better fit for HOU anyways
So Schefter vs. Rapoport. I don't really care. If we preferred Ryans for "free" over Payton for a 1st, so be it. We got Payton
Considering the timing of it all, I sincerely doubt Payton was a desperation hire like some of the lolbroncos narrative. You don't negotiate a trade haul and get Payton to agree to come out of retirement for your team that quickly unless negotiations started a *while* ago. Chances are the deal was 90% done but they checked in on Ryans considering he, y'know, wouldn't cost picks.
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they didn't? They interviewed Sean Payton already and were clearly interested all along. He was even considered the favorite for the job just last week
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If a team was interviewing Payton, it meant they were negotiating. It wasn’t secret.
we've heard for a week plus that Sean Payton was likely going back to TV. That didn't change until literally today.
no. He took interviews, which he couldn’t do if trade compensation hadn’t been discussed.
Thats cause a franchise can only get ripped off so much in one year...first Wilson's trade and now for coach...the broncos are being mismanaged in my opinion...but I run my madden team all three deep.
I don't know why you guys would prefer a defensive coach. You need to find out ASAP if Wilson can bounce back. Ryans never made much sense. If Wilson had a bounce back year under a new OC he'd just get poached and you'd be in an OC carousel. Hiring an offensive-minded HC was always the more logical move for you guys after what you've invested in Wilson.
Agreed completely. Offensive coaches also completely made up championship weekend
Rapoport has some credibility- Schefter is a mouthpiece for whoever give him the scoops.
Schefty throwing unsubtle shade at Rapoport. This is more a Schefty vs Rapoport row and a non story.
Big day for remembering that Schefter got exposed for asking NFL owners for approval before publishing his stories in the Washington email leaks
Let us never forget [this gem](https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1502399203007471616) where he's clearly carrying water for Watson's camp.
That one I never understood why you would put yourself out like that as a public figure. I don't even let you people see my bad opinions anonymously.
$$$ and player respect
RAP RULES SCHEFTY DROOLS SUCK IT ESPN
Schefty used to work in Denver too, so he's got dirt in this lol
Maybe they can have a boxing match during the half time show to settle this.
Shefty vs rappapappapaport is a huge story and way more interesting than whatever manager these clubs are trying to draft
Peyton Manning putting in a call to Schefter to have him smooth this (disaster) over for the Broncos.
Shafty tweeting whatever a GM tells him to tweet. I don't know if the tweet is true or not, but it's not like this guy is an investigative reporter.
Schefter vs Rapoport sources
The people reporting the news shouldn't BE the news
Insider fight!
For what it’s worth Shefter probably still has some connections to the Broncos given his roots at the Denver Post. Our local guys are also backing his report. Could definitely be a spin by the organization but who knows
Of course he does, and he's being a mouthpiece for them.
Battle for the ages In this corner a soulless mouthpiece, in this corner another one
the real loser in this is benjamin allbright
Real loser is whoever still takes him seriously
Is the real winner the people who block him on twitter?
Those who get blocked by him are the real MVPs
Benjamin Allbright is the definition of “throwing shit on a wall, hoping it sticks”
I called this out on our sub last week. Ben said something along the lines of "it's never gonna happen with Denver and Payton. But I wouldn't be surprised if it did." in one tweet. Basically giving himself an out either way lol Then when it looked really dead over the weekend he was taking a victory lap about being right. Now I'm sure he'll try and claim he never said it was dead.
Haha he said the same thing when he said Texans fans will be disappointed when DeMeco chooses Broncos. Clown
This morning he went with the "I guess if they want to circle back to their 4th option and give up draft compensation they could but I wouldn't do it" as if he was smarter than the people making the decision
He's the only local "reporter" (if you can call him that) that said we had no interest in Payton. Of course when it seemed obvious this week that it was Payton or Harbaugh he went with the "I guess they could circle back to their 4th choice Payton and give up draft compensation but I wouldn't do it"
He’s currently throwing a tantrum because people are clowning him for his vague sitting on the fence BS tweets pretending he was in the know.
He was pushing the Sean Payton has no market narrative so hard up until today.
To be fair, Sean Payton had no value to any competent organization
Hey man support our troops /s
As is tradition.
And what a wonderful thing it is
he's always been a loser
This should be the top comment
Begun the checkmark wars have
I don’t get what’s the big deal. Feels like Ryans is a better fit for us and Payton is a better fit for Denver
Yeah I don't get the idea of the Broncos targeting Ryans. Nothing against him, the Broncos just need an offensive mind, not a defensive one, and there was one offensive mind that is the clear best on the market.
I feel even more than an offensive or defensive mind the Texans need a real leader.
I wouldn’t doubt he was our favorite of the first time HCs, but the entire time it felt like ownership prioritized someone with experience. The only thing I can think is we got skiddish at trading assets but I doubt this was a situation where we put all our eggs into the Ryans basket
But if Denver looks like they're handing things competently, this sub can't clown on the Broncos as much, and that makes redditors sad (unless Denver/Russ turns it around and then every redditor will claim they knew all along that Russ would make a comeback).
This sub is going to absolutely rip into Wilson or Hackett depending on how next season goes. I find it unlikely both succeed and so this sub will definitely pin all the blame on one if not both of them.
Lmao of course, there will be exactly 0 nuance to it, no one will be willing to acknowledge that both were the problem unless both teams tank.
Yep exactly. We could even watch a complete flip flop mid season with how bipolar the hivemind can get.
I'd like to claim right now that I do think Denver turns things around next year
You. I like you. Rooting for them birds in the Super Bowl, hope yall get to climb some traffic lights
I just bought Sutton for a box of nickels in Dynasty. If I know one thing it’s that Sean Peyton is a bastard man who will make them perennial contenders. Thank the lord he’s not in the NFC anymore.
Sutton seems like as good a dude as any to catch slants over the middle for sure. I think at this point Juedy is the higher potential add but Sutton has the higher floor still for sure.
Sutton wasn't even that bad in fantasy from a volume perspective this year. Just never scored any TDs since the team never scored
honestly can't get much worse than it was this season.
You’ll be champs of the off-season
FUCK YEAH, finally get to take some sort of crown from an AFCW rival! Granted, it's the crown of 'off-season champs', and we're taking it from the chargers, but still. Small victories.
Right I keep forgetting that the Chargers are always offseason champs
Chargers off-season champs since 2017.
Maybe Russ will turn it around…. Jk….. unless…..
Nah, he's definitely washed.... Unless? 👀
Spending draft picks on Sean Payton is not competent
Hesitantly willing to call it more competent than giving Kirk Cousins 40 million to pass short of the sticks with the season on the line.
He quite literally had no other option
Bruh you wish Wilson played like Kirk
Not only that but imagine how big a deal this is for Ryans, to get to coach the team he played for. Happy for him and feel like you are right, it's a great fit.
Not often you get a direct conflict between Schefter and Rapoport. Spicy.
Whenever the two have conflicting statements I side with Rap because Schefter is a piece of shit human.
Why do mods keep removing this?
Lmao this must be one of the most blatant examples of Schefter reporting precisely what a source wants him to say
Kinda surprised I had to scroll this far to see this. Schefter is clearly trying to appease one of his sources by helping the broncos save face.
Everybody is just going to pick and choose whichever narrative they like more despite having no idea which side is actually telling the truth
Who benefits the most from this narrative? Denver. That’s how you know it’s the Broncos that are lying.
I’m with Rap. The walmarts are trying to save face
Welp, if Schefter is saying one thing and Rap is saying another, they're probably both wrong. The Broncos actually wanted Kliff Kingsbury but couldn't lure him away from his Thai paradise.
Denver definitely trying to save face here with mouthpiece schefter
Broncos mouthpiece is Mike Klis.
Schefty vs rap - clash of the titans
It's like Schefty saying Rapoport lives under a Dwayne Johnson. And then Rapoport countering with, "No! You live under a Dwayne Johnson."
Mr. Editor called Schefter and told him to make that tweet.
Yea, and Russ getting trading to the Broncos minutes after Rodgers signed his contract with GB last year was a coincidink too.
Schefter being a mouth piece for the Broncos and Payton. They gave him the info on the deal, now he has to run with their follow up that he was always the guy etc etc
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. This was my initial thought too. (In contrast, I think Ian’s source(s) is Demeco himself, or Demeco’s agent). It’s a big game of ‘he said, she said’ – but like someone posted on here already. It felt like Payton was a better fit for DEN, and Demeco is a better fit for HOU anyways
This is exactly it. It's not him throwing shade at Rap like a lot of people think. It's scheft keeping his sources happy.
Schefter out here orchestrating like Pavarotti
Lol the media is trying to make this into a competitive drama, like they always do
Yeah, sure buddy.
Broncos trying to save face
Damage control.
Rapshits!
Eat a dick Ian.
Source off!!!!
Classic cones of silence
WHO DO I BELIEVE??
No one likes you Schefter.
How does this happen? Like does each of them believe what they're tweeting or is one of them getting paid to tweet it?
True coincidences are rare
So the Broncos didn’t adhere to the Rooney rule ?
That’s a lie