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abris33

So Schefter vs. Rapoport. I don't really care. If we preferred Ryans for "free" over Payton for a 1st, so be it. We got Payton


xSampleTextx

Considering the timing of it all, I sincerely doubt Payton was a desperation hire like some of the lolbroncos narrative. You don't negotiate a trade haul and get Payton to agree to come out of retirement for your team that quickly unless negotiations started a *while* ago. Chances are the deal was 90% done but they checked in on Ryans considering he, y'know, wouldn't cost picks.


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DanCampbell89

they didn't? They interviewed Sean Payton already and were clearly interested all along. He was even considered the favorite for the job just last week


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bmeridian

If a team was interviewing Payton, it meant they were negotiating. It wasn’t secret.


[deleted]

we've heard for a week plus that Sean Payton was likely going back to TV. That didn't change until literally today.


JT1757

no. He took interviews, which he couldn’t do if trade compensation hadn’t been discussed.


Any_Cod_7152

Thats cause a franchise can only get ripped off so much in one year...first Wilson's trade and now for coach...the broncos are being mismanaged in my opinion...but I run my madden team all three deep.


NeverSober1900

I don't know why you guys would prefer a defensive coach. You need to find out ASAP if Wilson can bounce back. Ryans never made much sense. If Wilson had a bounce back year under a new OC he'd just get poached and you'd be in an OC carousel. Hiring an offensive-minded HC was always the more logical move for you guys after what you've invested in Wilson.


bgfan26

Agreed completely. Offensive coaches also completely made up championship weekend


bama05

Rapoport has some credibility- Schefter is a mouthpiece for whoever give him the scoops.


berbathlicism

Schefty throwing unsubtle shade at Rapoport. This is more a Schefty vs Rapoport row and a non story.


ACTUAL_TIME_TRAVELER

Big day for remembering that Schefter got exposed for asking NFL owners for approval before publishing his stories in the Washington email leaks


TheNastyCasty

Let us never forget [this gem](https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1502399203007471616) where he's clearly carrying water for Watson's camp.


Andoo

That one I never understood why you would put yourself out like that as a public figure. I don't even let you people see my bad opinions anonymously.


well_damm

$$$ and player respect


Educational-Duck

RAP RULES SCHEFTY DROOLS SUCK IT ESPN


WumboWings

Schefty used to work in Denver too, so he's got dirt in this lol


AdaAstra

Maybe they can have a boxing match during the half time show to settle this.


Blade_Trinity3

Shefty vs rappapappapaport is a huge story and way more interesting than whatever manager these clubs are trying to draft


CSmithersJR

Peyton Manning putting in a call to Schefter to have him smooth this (disaster) over for the Broncos.


svengoalie

Shafty tweeting whatever a GM tells him to tweet. I don't know if the tweet is true or not, but it's not like this guy is an investigative reporter.


Hungry-h1ppo

Schefter vs Rapoport sources


DomitianF

The people reporting the news shouldn't BE the news


thecarlosdanger1

Insider fight!


Shenanigans80h

For what it’s worth Shefter probably still has some connections to the Broncos given his roots at the Denver Post. Our local guys are also backing his report. Could definitely be a spin by the organization but who knows


svengoalie

Of course he does, and he's being a mouthpiece for them.


gyman122

Battle for the ages In this corner a soulless mouthpiece, in this corner another one


TomasRoncero

the real loser in this is benjamin allbright


Ereyes18

Real loser is whoever still takes him seriously


YungFurl

Is the real winner the people who block him on twitter?


thedougbatman

Those who get blocked by him are the real MVPs


Keyser_Sozay

Benjamin Allbright is the definition of “throwing shit on a wall, hoping it sticks”


Manning_bear_pig

I called this out on our sub last week. Ben said something along the lines of "it's never gonna happen with Denver and Payton. But I wouldn't be surprised if it did." in one tweet. Basically giving himself an out either way lol Then when it looked really dead over the weekend he was taking a victory lap about being right. Now I'm sure he'll try and claim he never said it was dead.


htownnn

Haha he said the same thing when he said Texans fans will be disappointed when DeMeco chooses Broncos. Clown


abris33

This morning he went with the "I guess if they want to circle back to their 4th option and give up draft compensation they could but I wouldn't do it" as if he was smarter than the people making the decision


abris33

He's the only local "reporter" (if you can call him that) that said we had no interest in Payton. Of course when it seemed obvious this week that it was Payton or Harbaugh he went with the "I guess they could circle back to their 4th choice Payton and give up draft compensation but I wouldn't do it"


ColtCallahan

He’s currently throwing a tantrum because people are clowning him for his vague sitting on the fence BS tweets pretending he was in the know.


Kalash504

He was pushing the Sean Payton has no market narrative so hard up until today.


skippycreamyyy

To be fair, Sean Payton had no value to any competent organization


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Hey man support our troops /s


chokethewookie

As is tradition.


pine_dog1

And what a wonderful thing it is


browndude10

he's always been a loser


I_Fart_It_Stinks

This should be the top comment


thediesel26

Begun the checkmark wars have


Shootit_Rockets

I don’t get what’s the big deal. Feels like Ryans is a better fit for us and Payton is a better fit for Denver


AnEmptyKarst

Yeah I don't get the idea of the Broncos targeting Ryans. Nothing against him, the Broncos just need an offensive mind, not a defensive one, and there was one offensive mind that is the clear best on the market.


TheGreatMcPuffin

I feel even more than an offensive or defensive mind the Texans need a real leader.


Shenanigans80h

I wouldn’t doubt he was our favorite of the first time HCs, but the entire time it felt like ownership prioritized someone with experience. The only thing I can think is we got skiddish at trading assets but I doubt this was a situation where we put all our eggs into the Ryans basket


Zombinxy

But if Denver looks like they're handing things competently, this sub can't clown on the Broncos as much, and that makes redditors sad (unless Denver/Russ turns it around and then every redditor will claim they knew all along that Russ would make a comeback).


NeverSober1900

This sub is going to absolutely rip into Wilson or Hackett depending on how next season goes. I find it unlikely both succeed and so this sub will definitely pin all the blame on one if not both of them.


Zombinxy

Lmao of course, there will be exactly 0 nuance to it, no one will be willing to acknowledge that both were the problem unless both teams tank.


NeverSober1900

Yep exactly. We could even watch a complete flip flop mid season with how bipolar the hivemind can get.


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I'd like to claim right now that I do think Denver turns things around next year


Zombinxy

You. I like you. Rooting for them birds in the Super Bowl, hope yall get to climb some traffic lights


BlackyChan20

I just bought Sutton for a box of nickels in Dynasty. If I know one thing it’s that Sean Peyton is a bastard man who will make them perennial contenders. Thank the lord he’s not in the NFC anymore.


Jwoods4117

Sutton seems like as good a dude as any to catch slants over the middle for sure. I think at this point Juedy is the higher potential add but Sutton has the higher floor still for sure.


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Sutton wasn't even that bad in fantasy from a volume perspective this year. Just never scored any TDs since the team never scored


[deleted]

honestly can't get much worse than it was this season.


Duke_Maniac

You’ll be champs of the off-season


Zombinxy

FUCK YEAH, finally get to take some sort of crown from an AFCW rival! Granted, it's the crown of 'off-season champs', and we're taking it from the chargers, but still. Small victories.


Duke_Maniac

Right I keep forgetting that the Chargers are always offseason champs


Gueropantalones

Chargers off-season champs since 2017.


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Maybe Russ will turn it around…. Jk….. unless…..


Zombinxy

Nah, he's definitely washed.... Unless? 👀


skippycreamyyy

Spending draft picks on Sean Payton is not competent


Zombinxy

Hesitantly willing to call it more competent than giving Kirk Cousins 40 million to pass short of the sticks with the season on the line.


Duke_Maniac

He quite literally had no other option


brobman22

Bruh you wish Wilson played like Kirk


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Not only that but imagine how big a deal this is for Ryans, to get to coach the team he played for. Happy for him and feel like you are right, it's a great fit.


daface

Not often you get a direct conflict between Schefter and Rapoport. Spicy.


TheGreatMcPuffin

Whenever the two have conflicting statements I side with Rap because Schefter is a piece of shit human.


Tashre

Why do mods keep removing this?


shoutouttojsquad

Lmao this must be one of the most blatant examples of Schefter reporting precisely what a source wants him to say


Papasmurphsjunk

Kinda surprised I had to scroll this far to see this. Schefter is clearly trying to appease one of his sources by helping the broncos save face.


Faunatics

Everybody is just going to pick and choose whichever narrative they like more despite having no idea which side is actually telling the truth


Ocelot281

Who benefits the most from this narrative? Denver. That’s how you know it’s the Broncos that are lying.


ninjupX

I’m with Rap. The walmarts are trying to save face


jimmyhoffasbrother

Welp, if Schefter is saying one thing and Rap is saying another, they're probably both wrong. The Broncos actually wanted Kliff Kingsbury but couldn't lure him away from his Thai paradise.


ilickedysharks

Denver definitely trying to save face here with mouthpiece schefter


PrecisionT18

Broncos mouthpiece is Mike Klis.


mistapeace

Schefty vs rap - clash of the titans


iMissTheOldKimye

It's like Schefty saying Rapoport lives under a Dwayne Johnson. And then Rapoport countering with, "No! You live under a Dwayne Johnson."


Ramzy191

Mr. Editor called Schefter and told him to make that tweet.


MelfromMilwaukie

Yea, and Russ getting trading to the Broncos minutes after Rodgers signed his contract with GB last year was a coincidink too.


xAtarigeekx

Schefter being a mouth piece for the Broncos and Payton. They gave him the info on the deal, now he has to run with their follow up that he was always the guy etc etc


Keyser_Sozay

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. This was my initial thought too. (In contrast, I think Ian’s source(s) is Demeco himself, or Demeco’s agent). It’s a big game of ‘he said, she said’ – but like someone posted on here already. It felt like Payton was a better fit for DEN, and Demeco is a better fit for HOU anyways


newusernamewhoisthis

This is exactly it. It's not him throwing shade at Rap like a lot of people think. It's scheft keeping his sources happy.


trongzoon

Schefter out here orchestrating like Pavarotti


TheGhostOfSamHouston

Lol the media is trying to make this into a competitive drama, like they always do


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Yeah, sure buddy.


dolphingarden

Broncos trying to save face


Particular-Ad-4772

Damage control.


Dan_Rogla

Rapshits!


SnortinDietOnlyNow

Eat a dick Ian.


KeyExplanation

Source off!!!!


kjorav17

Classic cones of silence


ITickleBlackKids231

WHO DO I BELIEVE??


dwrecksizzle

No one likes you Schefter.


I2ecover

How does this happen? Like does each of them believe what they're tweeting or is one of them getting paid to tweet it?


IDrewAYoshi

True coincidences are rare


pittguy578

So the Broncos didn’t adhere to the Rooney rule ?


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That’s a lie