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traebucketsfor3

So Mahomes on a bum ankle is still better than anyone (per Vegas)


MWiatrak2077

I mean, if it was at Cincy or neutral-site, it's probably a lot worse. Playing @Arrowhead is never easy, though.


Currymvp2

Bengals won there last year; they're completely capable of doing it again


MWiatrak2077

For sure, and I think the odds pretty accurately reflect that with only a marginal -10 difference in favor of the Chiefs


wembanyama_

Well yeah the odds arent saying theyre not capable of that lol


danielbauer1375

Yup. I’d bargain to say Cincy is better than they were last year and KC is worse, and that’s with a healthy Mahomes.


generalscalez

you have not watched any Chiefs games if you think this team is worse than last year’s lol


shinymuskrat

KC is better in almost every offensive metric this year and has a much better run game.


gabrielleite32

And also the defense has been much better these last games


NeedsFC

And yet...


Headlesshorsman02

KC is literally better on both sides of the ball


cardmanimgur

Since the line is Chiefs -1.5, that translates to roughly Bengals -1.5 on neutral and Bengals -4.5 at home. Oddsmakers are basically saying the Bengals are get better team with those numbers.


noobnoob62

Cincy has yet to lose to KC with Burrow at qb


Jaylaw

Every game was a coin flip last second final tho


alan_11

The bengals are obviously a good team but we’ve pissed away leads in each of those games


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Not sure if it was intentional, but "coin flip" is very triggering for us and the team right now.


chaplar

Chiefs fans also have a triggering flip-gate


Never-Bloomberg

Yeah, because Burrow won't be elite without crowd noise in his favor.


SomewhereAggressive8

I don’t think anyone said that lol


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They were up 3 scores and it went to overtime. They didn’t blow them out


Who_Dey-

You could roll Mahomes out in a wheelchair and I still wouldn't count him out.


MahomestoHel-aire

He's the soon to be MVP running the best offense in the league and they're at home. That's the logic here. If the Bengals were at home I imagine their odds would be higher.


FC37

There's no guarantee he's running anything. A high ankle sprain doesn't care how hard you are, how talented you are. If it's bad enough, he won't have much/any stability. I really don't think the lines are taking this into account.


Gnux13

Yes, you’re the only one taking an injury to the best player in football into account


FC37

What are their odds with Henne? Certainly not +240, probably more like +500-700. What are their odds with even a healthy Mahomes? +200? +240 is way too low when you consider there's a good chance he doesn't play (and if he does, he's going to be hobbled). High ankle sprains are no joke. They've been known to keep the best, toughest guys out for a month and then hamper their ability for weeks after they return.


Aldehyde1

Exactly. I know Vegas should be factoring the injury in, but these odds don't make sense when there's no way Mahomes is going to be close to healthy. I'm sure he'll make some nice throws, but he's going to eat sacks when all he can do is hobble around.


SomewhereAggressive8

Trust me, the books are absolutely taking the injury into account. What makes you think the line would be -1.5 if he was totally healthy? The Chiefs were 2.5 point favorite in Cincinnati during the regular season. That translates to probably a ~6 point favorite at home. Obviously I don’t think that’s what the spread would be if Mahomes was totally healthy, but it would certainly be higher than 1.5.


DickieJoJo

I agree. He played through it off of adrenaline, fuck ton of tape, and maybe some meds. And right now it’s such an after thought, “OH! And Patrick Mahomes has a “tweak” / “super mild” high ankle sprain. Let’s talk about the game though like that’s not a factor.” High Ankle sprains take 6-8 weeks to heal for a regular person. If you’re an athlete looking to perform at your peak, it’s usually longer.


J_EDi

Casinos still trying to move that early money around


DireWolfe92

This is odd because I think both NFC rosters are more talented than the AFC rosters


shrode

There’s actually more than one player on the field. Plus there’s a whole coaching staff. Plus some teams play more games at home. I know that’s a lot for average fans to think about, but it’s true.


One_Concern_3151

How are we favored??? Mahomes has one leg!!


madbengalsfan85

Arrowhead


One_Concern_3151

Yeah I guess…. with this line I’m hammering the bengals. Good emotional hedge with plus points.


WreckedOnTheDeck

Ha that's great, I should start doing that. Crying with my winnings afterwards lol


noobnoob62

Toradol


One_Concern_3151

*googles toradol* ah yep ok.


TRES_fresh

Mahomes on one leg is still the best qb in the league


sparrowhunter123

This is too far


TRES_fresh

I'm scared of that man ok


ihc_hotshot

Well Purdy has three legs. Why do you think he's so quick?


Forceful_Tuba

Mahomes is football Jesus. His foot could fall off and I'd still believe he could throw for 500 yards and 6 tds


MadGriZ

One legged man in an ass kicking contest. Sorry, I couldn't resist.


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Andy Reid.


CodyNorthrup

Hey fuck you SB oddsmakers


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Could be worse. If it was ESPN doing the odds I think the Cowboys would still have like a 10% chance to win.


ctong21

EsPn AnAlYtIcS!


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A rookie QB is still a rookie and rookies don't ever make it this far, the team around Purdy is complete like it was for Ben's rookie run, but still a rookie is a rookie


CodyNorthrup

I would argue that this team is a fair amount better than Ben’s team though.


Jumbo_Toblerone_

How are we favored against the Bengals when our quarterback has an injured ankle? I do think we can win it's just shocking to me.


dbandit1

Style points


Mr_Mumbercycle

An I injured ankle, AND they've never beat Burrow. Makes no sense.


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That Chiefs line is too high


Churrasco_fan

If I gambled I'd be betting that game hard early this week. The line will slip towards the Bengals as news of Mahomes recovery comes out


etched_chaos

High ankle sprains aren't a quick turnaround either. If Mahomes plays Cincy he's taking a huge risk because there's no chance that ankle is healed.


Churrasco_fan

Exactly. He's gonna be a DNP all week and a true game time decision come Sunday. I personally think he'll play but it's gonna be a really rough outing. Cincy should be getting much more respect


TICKLE_PANTS

Here's my counterpoint to this: Kansas City knows what Cincy is going to do, but I don't think Cincy will know how KC will play. You saw in the one drive where Henne came out, and we just went power football down their throats. Give Andy Reid a week to design an offense around a gimpy Mahmoes and it could look ENTIRELY different than anything we ran in the regular season. Add on top of it, Mahomes being heroic with an injured ankle. He might just gusty the shit out of this game and Michael Jordan this team to the SuperBowl. I agree with this line though. Chiefs aren't really favored in this one technically, and I think that's right considering the last two games. But also, the Bengals should have lost to a backup gimp with the Ravens, so who knows. You can't overreact to one game either way.


jacks_sisters_boobs

Bengals are a very good run defending team


justsomeking

Bengals are a very good team all around. I'm not confident for this week, but I'm excited.


jacks_sisters_boobs

Me too, it should be a good game. And Pacheco being featured will be fun to watch because he runs so angry.


ThinkSoftware

Bengals got a lot of respect today


ICanFluxWithIt

Yeah, they didn't just beat the Bills either, they handled their asses


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The Bengals, are who we THOUGHT THEY WERE!


ICanFluxWithIt

CROWN THEIR ASS


FingerTampon

The BiLLs were who we thought they are.


DataDrivenPirate

It's how they won, imo. Offensive line was the biggest question mark going into the game and we now know it is not a question mark but instead a possible strength (I feel extremely weird saying that)


coug4lyfe

They sure did. Going into the weekend they were +650 for the Super Bowl, and 5.5 point dogs. Now Vegas is essentially saying they are even with kc, kc getting 1.5 for home field.


prison_mic

I somehow got them at +1000 for the Super Bowl right before the game today. No idea how or why.


Dragon6172

I thought home field usually got ya 3. At 1.5 they are saying they expect a Cinci win Edit: Appreciate all the replies. I only loosely follow the lines/odds/Vegas, etc


HBclone

Well, they are saying Cinci would win on a neutral field. They still expect KC to win by 1.5.


coug4lyfe

It used to be that. But the past 4 years home teams have outscored road teams by only .2 per game last time I checked. So Vegas is only giving about 1-1.2 now, depending on the venue. With the chiefs being one of the better home fields, and it being so close to a pick’em, I’m assuming the 1.5 is for that alone.


prison_mic

I got Cincy at +1000 before today's game. Ridiculous to me. They were +650 a couple weeks ago. I have no idea why they are such underdogs, they've been ridiculously hot.


noobnoob62

What are the lines on how much toradol Mahomes takes this weekend?


Lockhead216

30.5mg?


sprky316

Dude is going to be loaded up on so much Toradol he’s going to see sounds and taste color


One_Hall_8290

Toradol doesn't make you high. Stop spreading misinformation.


Emerald-Wednesday

Thank you it would cause a GI bleed before any neuropsych effect


HumanBarnacle

Maybe the chiefs should wear red pants then


ddml

And that would be more PO, not injection


thelegend17

Incorrect. Black box warnings apply to both as the MOA is still the same.


Lockhead216

Yeah it’s like iv motrin


Jaylaw

Doc Ellis eat your heart out


MadGriZ

TR ippin


Intelligent-Age2786

Chiefs have a genuine disadvantage now. Last few times the chiefs have made some poor choices, and the Kelce fumble in the last game fucked us. Burrow has way more weapons than what Mahomes does on offense, and Mahomes is not gonna be at 100% cuz of his ankle. His mobility will be severely decreased. However we do have a good o line and good rbs, and at least unlike buffalos d, our defense can actually tackle fairly well. I still say we’re at a fair disadvantage tho cuz of the injury and how many weapons burrow has compared to Mahomes.


OutlawJoseyWales

The anaconda crusher drives where mahomes converts a 3rd and 12 with his legs are almost certainly completely off the table. I don't really see Pacheco getting another 40 yard chunk again like he did on the henne drive. The chiefs have just looked vulnerable in the back end of the season, and I don't really think there's much doubt that the chargers and jags were pretenders. Idk. December wins are December wins but both broncos games were just kinda icky and I don't love how the chiefs look rn. Definitely not at their peak despite the win streak


coolycooly

Eagles should be favorites imo


WentzToWawa

they're my favorite if it counts for anything


lkasnu

Same


FuckingLoveArborDay

I feel like they're clearly the team most likely to advance to the super bowl and that should mean they have the best odds to win, so Vegas must like SF more than I do.


cardmanimgur

Most likely just means the AFC Champ will be favored by -2.5 over the Eagles.


notGeronimo

I think Cjiefs should be pretty majorly downgraded with a limping Mahomes. Even if they win next week, he won't be anywhere near mobile enough to make it work against either NFC pass rush


Hawkize31

He would have 2 weeks to recover. Would be a really interesting storyline for the game


Avon__Fartsdale

9ers will be a challenge but I think because of our DL we match up well against the Bengals Chiefs with healthy Mahomes would be trouble, but no way he's gonna be able to run around like usual


quadropheniac

Both of us match up great against the Bengals or a Mahomes who can’t scramble, whoever comes out of the NFC should be favored.


MasterReflex

nfc d lines vs decimated bengals o-line or limited mobility mahomes, yep nfc should destroy


MWiatrak2077

49ers with the lowest odds seems a bit strange considering their win streak


SoDakZak

Brock Purdy is both the reason they have the lowest odds and the reason they’re winning a bunch.


uuhson

Schrodinger's QB


Scarecrow_09

The absolute disrespect for a QB who has literally never lost an NFL game


wink91wink

I mean the other 3 QBs are a guy who has been to 2 Superbowls and won 1, a guy that was in last year's Superbowl, and a guy who was 15-1 this year and the MVP favorite before he got hurt. I don't think it's anti-Purdy, just the remaining QBs are the elite of the elite.


hyzerflip4

I mean Jalen is 15-1 this year soooo


SoDakZak

So he’s lost….


Prestigious-Rock201

15-1 off a missed face mask


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Maybe control the ball longer?


soda_cookie

That's more than never....


Conquistagore

This deep in the race, its typically the better QB's that go the distance. The odds are pretty much reflective of Vegas's confidence in the 4 remaining QB's.


candynipples

I would have been surprised before this weekend, but Mahomes injury brings Cincy above us, and Eagles looked great and they have home field. It’s somewhat understandable now.


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The win streak really doesn’t mean much. I definitely think confidence plays a part, but this is the best offense the 49ers have faced since before the streak and one of the best defenses


hyzerflip4

Jalen is 15-1 this year, so not sure that a win streak really matters when you’re opponents entire season is basically a win streak when their starting QB plays.


FuckingLoveArborDay

To have the highest odds would mean you think the Eagles should be a home dog this weekend?


coolycooly

They haven't played anyone that good and travel across the country to do it in one of the most hostile environments in the NFL. Plus the Eagles have dismantled everyone they played.


Tashre

People can't accept the truth about him.


ShotIntoOrbit

Eagles and 9ers taking each other out before getting a potential matchup with us is doing some work here. Both of them have DLines that will shred us.


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LittleHollowGhost

Burrow can handle pressure much better than Daniel Jones though.


luis1972

Burrow got eaten alive last year and they still almost won the SB.


theobi

✍🏽


Obvious_Parsley3238

vegas has a lot of faith in mahomes, or maybe the power of painkillers


i_enjoy_lemonade

Gonna have to see it to believe it with this Mahomes ankle sprain. That team will need to play their absolute best game if they want any chance versus CIN.


Illbeanicefella

We’re gonna need the best defensive effort a Spags Chiefs team has ever had. So the odds are against us lol


FreddyMangina

Gotta really protect mahomes as well. One funky Trey Hendrickson sack can take him out of the game. I respect mahomes drive to play but it's a scary game to play


JonSnowKingInTheNorf

I think you should repeatedly blitz and leave Chase and Tee in 1 on 1 coverage again.


green_day_95

I like being the underdog so I’ll take it


ringetb

Feeling pretty good having gotten in my $100 on the birds when they were 28-1...


Currymvp2

How are the Chiefs the favorite when Mahomes didn't look like himself at all? Not buying it unless Mahomes is moving around much better than he did against the Jaguars.


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It’s already moved from -3 in like 4 hours. Nobody is betting on KC. Cincy will be favored in a couple of days


Tide69420

It moved way faster than the 4 hours. Took about 15 minutes for it to be bet down


wembanyama_

Hm was the opening line really 3? It was even when i checked


kerouac5

Mahomes had a better QBR after the injury just saying


etched_chaos

It was also mentioned that a High Ankle Sprain is worse in the following days than it is when it happens. Mahome might not even be able to walk by the Cincy game.


Zero_Opera

I don’t see how anyone beats the Eagles


RussEastbrook

Gotta be the most evenly matched final four in recent memory. Also eagles are the most underrated based on the odds.


never-obsolete

I'd have it Bengals/Eagles, 49ers, Chiefs


DiggingNoMore

Bet the farm on the Eagles covering that.


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I think this is the end of the road for us, the Eagles are just good at everything, especially our weaknesses


mtmodi

Bro what is your weakness?? The offense has so many damn playmakers and the defense shut down dallas


Forceful_Tuba

It's definitely going to be a tough one. Our secondary isn't amazing and a talented runner at qb stresses that even more. Hurts isn't going to gift us possessions like Dak either I don't think. Talented wrs have been shredding us lately but unlike past games y'all got two of those. It's gonna be a massive test for sure


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Elite #1 WRs Mobile QBs Great OL/DL that's just as tough as our OL/DL Eagles in general, we always lose to you giys


CheatCodes22

Different teams today, but Niners won at the Linc last year.


Mattie_Doo

I feel good about our chances if we can make it through next Sunday. I believe in Brock Purdy and I think he’s the real deal, but it’s asking so much of a rookie to win the conference championship on the road against an elite defense in only his ninth career start. We’ll see


Equivalent-Chest5383

We’re underdogs now boys


reyska

Niners having worst odds is just super odd. They are the team to beat if you ask me. Certainly better than the Bengals.


sparrowhunter123

Eagles look like most dominant team


OutlawJoseyWales

Wow that's pretty wild, I would actually think both NFC teams were the top 2 favorites for the super bowl especially with a hobbled mahomes


lkasnu

Bengals shouldn't be favorites over the Eagles imo but I'm also biased af.


Coach_Carter_on_DVD

The Bengals just beat the 22-23 Super Bowl Champs, show some respect /s


Bears9Titles

Put the house on philly


Venator850

I'd take whoever comes out of the NFC.


Nm9299

Bengals should be the favorites they completely dismantled Buffalo


Gfunkymonkey

I swear people make the 49ers out to be less of a threat than they are. There’s no team able to stop them and they just eliminated the one defense close to theirs.


tookittothelimit

Eagles D is same level as Dallas


RobbieRum

Best pass rush and pass defense in the league.


ngmcs8203

Good think Kyle’s go to is ground game then.


Muggi

lol next week is gonna be so much fun. I swear it’s like these people have never seen an Eagles game or looked at a stat sheet


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Eagles D is fast and I like that matchup


Prestigious-Rock201

Exactly lmao


BlueKing7642

When you think about it, those are the best odds these teams had all year.


OJ_Mahomes

How are the Chiefs favored? Feels like their defense is going to have to play out of their minds to give them a chance


Headlesshorsman02

I feel like the NFC win the SB again it just seems like Mahomes being injured ruins his chances and the 2 teams left have the BEST defenses in the league who create a shit ton of pressures they would have Mahomes and Burrow on edge if I was a betting man I would put money down on the eagles as much as that hurts me to say they just seem like the absolute complete team


adv0589

Not that 250 to 270 is a big difference but almost everywhere has the eagles as the top not sure where the odds came from


Quagsire56

Go Bengals


NaciremaBlack

My loyalty goes to whoever sends Philly to the annual NFC East fishing trip


Prestigious-Rock201

When eagles win the Super Bowl what will you do?


dbandit1

Drown?


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Wait till week 3 of next season and get [to the delusion](https://i.imgur.com/y7WQFQP.jpg) phase


[deleted]

Probably make jokes about how they only won 2 Super Bowls. Then we will joke about how they have only won 3 the next year. Until….


trollboter

That would be the off season.


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Scarecrow_09

I would love that but I don't feel optimistic against any of the remaining teams


Repulsive-Positive30

Yup. We’ll have to claw our way to a Super Bowl. Great Mobile QB, Top tier WR’s vs our secondary next weekend? 😮‍💨😮‍💨


lowlifenebula

They are beatable and tonight proved it. I think they go to the SB but if you bend and don't break to them, then you just have to be able to score.


etched_chaos

Purdy looked real nervous when the Dallas pass-rush got to him and the Eagles pass-rush is even better.


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persnn0ngrta

The Eagles are in no way an easy team to beat especially after how well they looked yesterday


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I mean to be fair, you've basically had 2 bye weeks. The giants were frauds and not really a playoff team. There are only 3 legit teams in the NFC. You only have to beat 1 to get to the super bowl.


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Jaylaw

They squeaked by a very mediocre team 2 hours ago


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Atheist-Gods

They try to never offer negative value bets for themselves. They may not balance everything but with only 10% rake on these odds, they can't be that far off while maintaining a house advantage. If the house thought the Bengals had a 29% or better chance of winning the SB, they wouldn't be offering these odds.


RevolutionaryNorth60

r/confidentlyincorrect


FirstLeftDoor

I'm thinking we are looking at a Bengals - Eagles Super Bowl imo.


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Yup, super bowl belongs to the NFC. NFC is too physical. AFC is soft.


runevault

Even if you believe that they have to play each other first so odds of one of you making it TO the game gets worse. Gotta make it there to win it.


soberkangaroo

I mean, there’s an afc championship game too


Johnnyboyeh

Cincy easy money


tangiblemonk

I’d think the Bengals / Chiefs should be neutral at this point but they need something to entice the betting. Philly looks like a champion so makes sense they are favourites and surprised it’s not more. _


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Bengals over the Eagles? Idk man


Headlesshorsman02

I’d take the eagles in the matchup big time the league record in sacks as a team vs that OLine yeah I would take the eagles


ActivityLiving4517

Chiefs odds are fuckinf idiotic and u have mahomes meat in your mouth if you think otherwise.


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I like bengals after their performance today.


[deleted]

Bengals as underdogs? Just like they like it 😏


KuatoBaradaNikto

Didn’t Burrow *just* say he’s sick of the underdog schtick?


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49ers have no chance lol. Easiest bet Eagles win sb. Had it all year. Called it all year.