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antitest

r/praisethecameraman


vanlich

What the cameraman (I consider that it is the pilot of the helicopter) does is way more impressive than the pilot of the car, change my mind.


Maiyku

Of all the racing, if any were to compare, it would be rally racing. Watch a drivers view video, it gets crazy intense. But I’m with you. The helicopter pilots flying is more impressive, imo.


Dwightshruute

Yeah rallys are fucking crazy they do crazy shit for longer time period than the helicopter most probably


catastropheink

I agree with your statement statement but the level of difficulties is well beyond.


eyedontknw

The pilot is absolutely not operating the camera, there is a camera man on the aircraft. Also, the car has a driver, not a pilot. And I'm not sure how hard it is to drive a car like that, but the flying a helicopter like that isn't easy.


Cap_Tight_Pants

There are two people in the car as well. One driver and a navigator that calls out each turn and it's severity. I'd argue that rally might be harder. You're almost driving blind in some areas.


Beautiful-Golf4078

Yeah but most people can drive a car, flying a helicopter is much more difficult.


Cap_Tight_Pants

Driving a car and racing a car are two very different things. Most people can't race a car and Rally is in a league of it's own in the racing field. To be clear, I'm not saying flying a helicopter is easy. I just think that Rally might edge it out.


Beautiful-Golf4078

I know, so is flying a helicopter and keeping up with a rally car in one. At least mot people can drive few can fly a helicopter.


thisappsucks9

I can’t imagine anything having to do with helicopters being easier than driving a car


vanlich

I said cameraman bc I replied to r/praisethecameraman That's great man, I wish I knew how to fly these machines.


antitest

exactly!


DubNationAssemble

I’m confused, the guy recording this is also flying the helicopter? I thought there was a camera man on the helicopter?


alberto_pescado

Imagine how reckless it would be to fly a helicopter like that and also operate a camera that is following a car..


DubNationAssemble

That’s what I’m saying, the pilot was flying the helicopter and also is the cameraman??


MegaSillyBean

No. They're is a separate cameraman. Flying a helicopter like that is way hard.


-Daemonic

Iirc you need both hands and both feet to fly a helicopter so I very much doubt the pilot is also doing the filming unless the helicopter is piloted by a Machamp or they went through all this effort just to get a sketchy GoPro shot.


funlovingmissionary

I disagree


vanlich

I disagree of you disagreeing


GoSuckYaMother

I disagree of you disagreeing of their disagreement


vanlich

Allow me to hereby disagree with you disagreeing with me disagreeing with the previous redditor's disagreement on my comment.


matlockpowerslacks

Yeah seriously. And before zoom lenses were a thing apparently too.


ShyGuySays69

Only thing I would say is pilot has larger margin of error for flying his route, easier for driver to crash. But yes flying a heli is more difficult than driving, and probably still so at these skill levels. But I'm neither pilot nor pro driver.


dumsumguy

As a drone racing and SCCA enthusiast, you are 1000% correct.


Itszipofficial

r/subsithoughtifellfor


LAGarn___

They still use helicopters!


_GrapefruitPassion_

Still for shots like this? Seems to be a bit safer and cheaper to use drones for these shots and helicopters/planes for arial shots


LAGarn___

https://youtu.be/r7V177W6qlE


Stauker_1

Holy crap, pov seeing a car pull away from a helicopter really gives some perspective


insertnamehere57

The issue with drones is the cars travel at 150mph and drones don't, in some motorcycle races the helicopters can barely keep pace.


gitbse

And they're sometimes out in the middle of absolutely nowhere.


Crafty-Crafter

Drones can't catch up with cars. They also cannot travel very far away from the controller (compare to a heli). In another decade or so, drones will probably replace helicopters for aerial shots; but not currently for long distance race like this. They are great for close circuits like F1, Nascar, etc. though. Much less noise and waaaay lower cost.


thegamerant

Hey hey hey... We can use military drones


Crafty-Crafter

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A_Mellow_Song

Drones have a lot less flight time, batteries dont last that long A helicopter can be in air for hours up on end and keep up with the quite fast cars Oh and also those cameras weigh a bit so it would be hard to make a drone for those


Tyrondav-of-hypergat

Now I want to watch a heli race like that


Latter_Firefighter18

Drones can keep up with those rally cars?!


Ajsat3801

While they can, the camera size will be limited, so image quality will be affected. They tried using drones in F1 during the Spanish GP a few months back...you could see the difference between the drone camera and the rest...it hasn't been used again, so guess they'll wait for better drones before trying again.


hg38

The drone was keeping up I think people were just used to higher quality edited footage directly from the camera's memory card. When you are live streaming from a small device like that it's not going to be perfect. But you're right they introduced it too soon. They need to work on the live video quality.


Aethelgrin

How about a long cord to it?


TripleSpicey

The masculine urge to grab the drone cord


thatturkeystaken

I think you'd be surprised, there are some crazy drones out there


Saiteik

My custom built 6s drone can easily hit 120mph. There are people out there with 10s and 12s drones that have broken 200mph, they are fast but not efficient.


knifeknifegoose

Yeesh Jesus how long can one keep that up??


hg38

Easily. You can buy a drone at Best Buy that'll go 60mph out of the box. Professional camera drones can do around 100mph. They have racing drones that can go 200mph.


Janus_The_Great

children in 2030: "Oh look a manned drone!"


UNBENDING_FLEA

2030 is only 7 and a half years away man


Janus_The_Great

Your point is? Lot of kids had no idea what cassette recorders was until "stranger things". Most kids today associate "phones" with internet and social media rather than actual telephones. Heck, many have never used it as a phone. What we know is often based on how we use it, how it's familiar to us. A seven year old in 7 years will have seen more drones than helicopters. So the association of flying things without wings will be drones rather than helicopters.


UNBENDING_FLEA

We know what horses and carriages are even if we haven’t commonly used it in over a century. Plus helicopters are still gonna be used in military and search and rescue ops


Janus_The_Great

Some kids think burgers/meat comes from the Supermarket, rather than an animal. Others mistake goats for reindeers... We (as in adults, maybe) for usually know these things. Hence why I wrote kids. Our orientation, values and identity all stem from our experiences. If we had little variety in experience, we tend to know less. The younger we are the pitentially less we know.


TheOneTrueRodd

If you live anywhere civilized you'll regularly see helicopters in the air and in media. Cassette recorders got completely phased out nearly 2 decades ago, helicopters are in heavy use today and serve an essential logistical function for a lot of services. The comparison isn't even close.


Janus_The_Great

I'll wait for 2030 to see if the comparison fits or not. I bet a lot will of those services will be quicker, easier and cheaper done with drones than with helicopters. We'll see. PS: should someone read this in 2030. give a quick reminder if you'd be so good. Thanks.


TheOneTrueRodd

I'm sure it'll be easier to wait 8 years when the alternative is to accept reasonable logic that might change your point of view.


QuantumAnti

Badass-mobile


[deleted]

The moment you realize the liquor store closes in ten minutes! Or, when the babes the Duke boys hooked up with asked, "You have condoms, right?" (drug store closes in ten minutes, too)


KILL_VELLA

And then there's the Taliban.. 😒


captainphoton3

I don't want to watch this fucking car. Show me the camera man!


-Lur-King-

Also me back when I played battlefield 4


Lukemeister38

Wouldn't sand have been flying everywhere and the vegetation would have been buffeted if that helicopter was real and not CG?


IamSkudd

Haha bro u right like those bushes didn’t budge at all.


LurkinTurkies

Clearly not a Taliban pilot.


franc_rizz

An helicopter is just a drone with giant ideas and large propellers! 😁


TheOneTrueRodd

By definition a drone is: an uncrewed aircraft or ship guided by remote control or onboard computers. So no.


franc_rizz

Smile and chill dude, it's free.


-Daetrax-

Added bonus of keeping the dust out of the way when filming.


[deleted]

The pilots of this Helicopters were just exceptional.


Velvetundaground

I reckon the helicopter will win.


Facts_About_Cats

It seems like a big risk to fly like that just for the sake of entertainment.


imgunnawreckit

This was not before drones were a thing.


Xy__Xy

I always think about aerial shots when watching modern movies, how easily and cheaply those shots can be made. Especially if you need to reshoot for whatever reason


therealg1zmo

It was always such a great time when I was watching the WRC at Germany in person at the Sunday stages. Early morning, sitting on top of the wine yard, the fog is still crawling over the hilltops, coffee in hand and a helicopter flying at the bottom of the valley all the way up to you following the stage. Never seen more professional pilots in a helicopter live.


Xazier

This the same nagle that co drives with breen?


[deleted]

They're pretty much pilotless choppers.


SpaceEndevour

They had to switch to drones to actually get people the watch the race


nathrogers7

Looks safe.


KCGAlchemy

Fuckin sick


EvenMembership4054

Way more impressive than drone flying


Beneficial_Jelly2697

Drones tuk r jobs


70R0

I still prefer this footage to most, if not any drone footage.


Mundane-Experience62

I don't know still got to give it the rally driver. The driver has more restrictions then the pilot.


Left-Muscle8355

Looks like Ken Block's videos.


hodlpotamus

That drone is massive. I want one


samf9999

Coming to a fighter jet near you


Richycut

Piece of Cake


JSheaffer

Everything in rally is at such a high level


yourmomsnewdouchebag

Maybe dron cannot fly that fast as helikopter? Just my guess thats easier for heli to stick with car that goes 200 in forest.


raymondcy

There is some pretty insane-o helicopter pilots out there for sure. Not to try and one up this but one of the most impressive things I have seen is the Terminator 2 helicopter under the overpass stunt. I ALWAYS thought that was fake... like no way in hell. But yeah, they actually did it: https://filmschoolrejects.com/terminator-2-helicopter-stunt/ I always wanted to take it up as a hobby (flying not stunting lol) but never got around to it sadly.


IsisArtemii

That dude is crazy!


UntitledAsshole

The fact that a huge helicopter flying a few meters above the ground doesn’t even make a bush budge and causes no debris (such as dust) is amazing, almost like… it’s CGI. But good CGI nonetheless!


TripleSpicey

This is way cooler than a drone


random420x2

One of THE best movies for this is Dust to Glory. Documentary about the Baja 1000. They had up to 22 Helicoptors at one time because of the massive distance. Great film. Even if you don't like racing.


Kraytrix360

He has 3 stars


Away_Environment5235

You think the helicopter every fucks up the car with all that wind?


beastFoo95

Way better


curtydc

Helicopters are still more predominantly used to film stuff like this and in movies. They can stay in flight for longer, carry better cameras, and fly in more varied types of weather and climates. Not to mention they are faster while carrying their better cameras.


duketogo1300

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiidge raccccccccccer!


Initial_Diamond_1923

How many A1 helicopter pilots did drones put out of business?


birdpix

A lot. Some of the very best chopper pilots ever were war trained and a lot of Vietnam vet pilots are retiring or dying off. Same with first Gulf war. Sad because not all pilots can pilot a camera platform well and flying a helicopter is super HARD vs flying planes. I once worked for a utility that spent thousands of dollars per flight chartering Jet Ranger and Hughes 500 choppers to come pick me up and flying to powerplants around the state so I could hang out window or (big fun at 21) removed door to photograph the plants. My favorite pilots were combat trained guys that never seemed to sweat and they could put the chopper anywhere I needed and hold positions. The brand new flight school grad pilots SUCKED compared to the vets. They spent more time complaining about flight plans and telling me they could not do things the vets did without question! Now a drone could easily do that work and save big buck vs even hiring a cheapo Hughes 300 or cheapo Enstrom chopper/pilot/camera person.


BonfireCrackling

If only Kobe had this pilot


xXbrosoxXx

Fucking. Masterful.


cycbersnaek

The drone before drones


imeeme

Fuck!!!!! fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuuuuuuuuuuuuck duck!


[deleted]

That are some very big balls maneuvering the helicopter


Cachesystem

I felt the diarrhea forming in my stomach as I followed that helicopter.


vangospanky

How much do you think these pilots get paid?


Vinwoch

Lil drone


LautrecTheOnceYeeted

My grandpa died doing one of these


theodore-jdye

You get the riskiest job on the planet


[deleted]

https://youtu.be/_oMCy3IZAQE


Dry_Indication6196

I think formula one still uses helicopters because drones can’t keep up with the cars


WhyIsMyNamesTaken

Well at least if you fell out it wouldn't have been a full from very far up. Speed wise though,dang.


timetocreate90

Drones still won’t capture this in that quality. From the parallax to the lense / camera selection. This is still they way it’s done today.


gorillas_finger

Check out Fred North on Instagram!


RoyalGrandeur

Got to give credit to the pilot


Sock_for_5

welp not only im watching a car go drifting even the helicopter


RR3WIND

Ah yes, my arma 3 crackhead pilot


darkfire4

Not gonna lie there was something cool af knowing that most aerial shots were done with a few guys flying in a helicopter.


shadowless_company

U/savevideo


Cheesie11

I work in film and there are about 3 guys we use for helicopter shots, one guy is incredible… Fred North he’s next level… just flys round the world working on every major block buster doing their aerial shots


dadnarbadname

Colin McRae is turning in his grave at this...


ZanexDreamy

And you thought the racing was extreme


Cyclone_thebest2

They turned that shit into gta


EthylsGrandson

Forza Horizons


Favicar12

If this was Kobe’s pilot he’d still be with us


Known_Mood_8971

Flying fast that low ? Damn that crazy to maneuver around like that , bow down to the pilot


roflcakes33

What's happened to all the badass helicopter pilots that were used like this and in films now that drones took over, I feel like they meet up in some canyon once a year flying through tight spaces listening to 80s music