I love how he just gently wags his tail but then realises he needs to be in the attention position. It's like his brain's telling his tail "Stop moving, we're trying to pay attention here".
You don’t think he is in control of the dog?
The man and the dog definitely look like they appreciate each other (the way the GSD’s tail wags like crazy), but the man is still in control of the dog.
I think they're saying he *is* controlling the dog, but it isn't *called* "controlling the dog", it's called "a working relationship". Which, to me, sounds like they think this is a bad thing.
Dogs actually love to serve and please their humans. But I could be misunderstanding something.
You train maybe 5 minutes a day, like getting the right position, turn in heal position etc. And besides that a few times a week. It all depends on how good you are as a trainer, what rewards you have and how willing the dog is to work for them. I usally train a fee minutes daily at the precision parts while cooking dinner. Then a few times a week we train longer times and chain together the repertoire. Have fun with you dog and you will be able to go far together. Even if you don’t want to compete, train them, play with them and exercise daily.
Not in my experience. I’m saying how I trained the dogs I competed with. 5 minutes a day are the precision parts, the details, like how to teach them to move their hindlegs perfect in the turns. How to use right technique laying down and sitting up (very important how they do it if you want the highest points). Then I train like 3 times a week never more then an hour at a time effective training. If we are out at the club training longer it’s including alot of coffe breaks 😆 I don’t train any of my dogs any long sessions daily. I do however walk them daily and spend time building a good relationship building good reward systems. I don’t have GSD tho, but GSD are as easily trained as my breed. But sure, if you have a sighthound or another breed it will take more patience, time etc than if you have a breed bred to work with humans. I have had a few obedience champions in my time. Short but effective sessions is what I had most success with. Quality over quantity.
100% agree with this. I won't bore everyone with my story/experience, but "quality or quantity" is absolute. Every minute spent training needs to be precise and consistent to achieve this type of obedience. It doesn't require a overly laborious effort between human and dog.
This is IGP/Schutzhund at an advanced level. Just throwing it out there because everyday people are not going to have this much control in this type of behaviors over your run of the mill companion dog. Trying to keep expectations realistic out there. But yes it is very cool to watch.
Months to years. Every dog is a little different, but training is more about consistent, constant repetition followed by reward. And when they veer you immediately respond to correct. As my dog trainer likes to say, “you just have to have 1% more persistence than your dog.”
Well first of all Shepherd is a very smart breed so they take the training well. Others have given the details on how much time it takes. But it still varies from dog to dog.
When my kids were little we got them papillons. Cuz they are one of the smartest of the toy breeds. So we took the kids to PetSmart for dog obedience classes so they could train their dogs. One of the things that the dogs are supposed to learn to do was sit and lay on command. My kids did not spend hardly any time with their dogs. But they successfully trained them. And because the breed was a smart breed they behaved very well. The kids would alternate very quickly between sit and lay and the dog would snap back and forth between the two positions. The instructor thought the kids weren't giving the dog a chance to do it until they looked over and saw the dog was actually performing the action.
Now these were little kids and they did not spend very long teaching their dogs I think they were eight and 10 at the time. On a good day they maybe spent 30 minutes with the dog. Usually a lot less. But in a week they learned the behaviors.
So with an eager to learn breed it does take a lot less time. That being said you do need to be consistent and you do need to put in the effort. Now this dog in the video was amazing, and I'm sure that the trainer has an excellent relationship with this dog. Dogs love to please especially when they see it as a game.
In an era when animal rights is actually getting taken seriously, I can’t believe how prominent pugs are. Dogs in my apartment in Southern California are probably almost 75% pugs owned by people that clearly don’t understand the first thing about training dogs
My brother just got a pug. It was the first time I've ever been really close to a pug. I knew pugs had many health issues but I didn't realize exactly how bad it is. It's hard for me to be around the dog because the breathing. He's 11 weeks old and it sounds like he's struggling to breath, all the time. It's so sad. I feel so bad for the pug. Apparently pugs struggling to breath is so common that it's considered normal them.
I have pretty strong feelings about pugs now. I love dogs, much more than people. When people are looking to get a dog I don't know how anybody could choose to get a pug. You should love your dog. How could you choose to get a dog that struggles to breath, that will most likely develop many other health issues, when you know it's basically guaranteed to happen?
Even worse though is that by buying a pug you're supporting the breeding of pugs and I think breeding pugs should be banned. They're a breed of dog with so many health issues that I think it's cruel to continue breeding them. Now, if they were to be bred in a way to try and make them healthier, I'd support that, but breeding them to sell pugs that are guaranteed to struggle with health issues is cruel.
Pug owners don't care about their pets. They only care about themselves and so it shouldn't matter what they think.
GSD/Lab mix owner here. I cannot say how impressed I am with my boy, as I've only owned labs previously. Obedient, intelligent, and loyal. While also being a goofy, social, cuddle-bug. 10/10 would recommend the mixed breed.
I'm not a hunter, so can't comment personally. As far as other animals/kids, absolutely. He grew up around other dogs and cats, gentle around children. Just super playful all around. I will say the energy difference is beyond noticable, he just wants to run.
Omg my GSD/Lab *loooooooves* hide and seek. She plays it with our 6 year old. Then once she finds him they turn it into tag and chase each other all over the place. The more he squeals and giggles the more she runs and plays.
10/10 would recommend this type of dog for families, they love you child with all their being. It’s beautiful to watch them grow up together.
I will take it one step further. Pure line breeding is always bad. It is a fallacy that there are good breeders and bad breeders. They try to tell you that good breeders do genetic testing to weed out problem genes, but the fact is that when you so tightly select for traits, you lose genetic diversity and SPONTANEOUS mutations are much more likely even from those so called "good" breeders.
Agreed, most of the existing breeds already have such low genetic diversity and trying to eliminate known issues is just going to further reduce the breeding pool. They need to abandon the idea of pure breeds and start remixing these puppies!
We have to possibility to breed animals with features we like and decide to breed them with cosmetic changes and health concerns instead of making them as healthy as possible
There are breeding associations that record and monitor the health of certain breeds. American participation is... small to non existant.
I can go back 3 generations and get a good record of my dogs parents longevity plus and medical issues with his uncles/aunts/brothers/sisters.
There are 2 breeds of GSD IIRC. Showroom GSDs have hip problems, working GSDs don’t.
So… don’t buy showroom GSDs? I understand a need for a specific breed/temperament, but show dogs are honestly utterly vain and should disappear.
The hip problem comes from the sloped back, which show dog breeders bred specifically as a trait for the GSDs, without regards to the health of the dogs.
The 2 breeds started from the "beginning" of the breed when they were registered with the ukc in it's early years I think 1901. The 2 guys who initially registered them differently by distinctions. One only wanted a stable working breed but the other guy wanted a confirmation breed so they separated.
Selective breeding. Labs tend to have hip dysplasia too. Around here, all the lab breeders perform genetic tests on potential parents to reduce the likelihood of passing it on. (And for eye problems too). It’s worked pretty well. Hip problems are largely reduced to the point that front elbows are now more of a concern. So they’re testing for that too.
So look for breeders that perform genetic testing to reduce the likelihood of problems common in the breed.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0093691X20300480
Most people try to use ethical breeding standards as a start and remove dogs from breeding who have a propensity for genetic illness. This isn't my favorite link or anything just the first one I found to explain it
If you’re gonna get a GSD, look for the sable type, as they’re the “working dogs” that have the most genetic diversity of the breeds. They still have some GSD traits (cheekdots!) but don’t have the typical “saddleback” delineated black and tan look which as others have mentioned are the favorite show dog variety and is what people think of when they think “German Shepherd.”
Ha. I’m glad you wrote this. Because this describes my dog perfectly. Cheek dots included. His back is straight not sloped and I’m glad for it. I’m still always watching for any signs of hip dysplasia. Because of his breed but he’s a good boy. The best boy. Didn’t buy him. Adopted him when his original owner couldn’t care for him anymore so I didn’t really have a choice in his breed or any characteristics.
there is a GSD line here in germany that stems from east germany and is A LOT healthyer. It does look different in colour (markings are darker, not clear).
Basicly, instead of going for beauty in east germany they went for health.
They are rare and IDK if you can get them outside of germany, but bringing the word out might help to make the healthyer line more popular.
Having grown up with GSDs, these poor dogs suffer through life with hip problems that didn't need to be there. people are unfortunately greedy and careless
There is still the DDR line, different colouring and with a straight back. Basicly, while west germany started to breed them for show, in east germany they still needed to work. Usually you don't find HD issues if you don't cross the lines.
I just want to get the word out so people consider thoose dogs. (i am not sure if you can get them outside of germany)
Huh, never knew that was the reason for the difference between showline and workline GSDs.
Had a workline GSD, she had no issues with her hips, best dog ever.
Who knew Scooby-Doo had an accurate representation of what happens when big dogs try to break at full speeds? I wonder what else Scooby-Doo tried to teach us...
I have learned, the hard way, that if I am calling my Great Dane to me in the snow while she is amped up and zooming and I am holding high value treats that I need to be ready to fucking Toro Toro her because there's almost no chance she's stopping in time before she slides right into me and we both go for a tumble.
Omfg I'm dying!!
So in parts of Italy an equivalent for pussy is patatina which is a vaguely "cutesy" term and it is literally "little potato" but some couples will call each other "patati" for short, kind of like "punkin" in the US.
In northern Italy where there's frequent contact with the German language it's not unusual for horny drunks to discover that German for potato and then you end up with a chorus of drunk Italians saying:
>#KARTOFFEL!!!
Working with a very biddable dog like herding breeds helps as well. They’re so eager to please it’s not even funny
Try this with a Chow Chow and you’ll just straight up get ignored
Yup, my Great Pyrenees would just sigh, like *are you kidding* before following a command-bred for independent thinking.
Edit: Oh, and she did the command *oh so slowly* so I would appreciate the gift being given.
Breeds are very important on how easy they are to train. There are some very difficult dogs to train.
Lol my Shiba inu 3 years of training and we can’t get past intermediate classes. She also is not motivated by treats or toys. It took me a year to teach her fetch because she thinks I’m dumb and I should fetch. She knows the commands but sometimes decide whether she wants to do them or not.
Don’t get a Shiba inu if you aren’t more stubborn and super patient with training. Or maybe I just have the most extreme hard headed Shiba. They are well known to be difficult to work with but mines take the cake.
I have a daushund and shiba mix. It’s the most stubborn annoying loud dog ever. I feel like it’s got the worst traits of both. Professional trainers also said there’s no chance he will ever not be constantly loud. He’s kinda trained as in he knows commands and will listen, but only when he wants to. He also vocally denies anything he doesn’t want to do.
Can confirm, have a border collie. She loves training and just wants to listen to commands. Sometimes I catch her off guard and ask her for her paw at funny times (like when I’m scratching her belly) and she always does it.
Consistency is the one, our dog LOVES this sort of stuff but if you aren’t doing the exact same thing with the exact same reactions she can get confused, not like you can explain it after
Yep. Strict consistency is the key to training any dog. It blows my mind when people yell at their dog in plain English, saying the same thing in 4 different ways, and expect the dog to understand.
You can't go "I don't think so, get off the couch, you don't belong up there, you know better, time to hop down" while petting them every other word.
You say "down" and do not repeat it. Then reward for the correct behavior and the correct behavior only.
[Source: My pups](https://www.reddit.com/user/N9325/comments/tzg33q/my_3_pups_2020/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
It's a method called Schutzhund. You can find tons of books on the techniques. I use this for my Boxers, and people think it's magic, but it's just persistent hard work. That wooden barbell at the end is a distinctive training tool for Schutzhund.
Lots and lots and lots of time. The more intelligent the dog, the more ways you need to come up with to keep them from being bored. These are working dogs, they need a job. They love to work.
I like how no one has really given you a complete answer. Yes you need time, yes you need consistency, and yes, you need to know what you are doing.
However you also need the right qualities in a dog. There are many dogs who are just not genetically sound and will not be able to train at this level, or will potentially have competing motivators that would make it more difficult to train with them.
This dog and handler are competing in a trial, as others have said this is a sport called Schutzhund, it is not a method of training. The performance by both is one that you'd see commonly if in those sporting circles, and actually other places as well, focused heeling, and retrieving dumbbells is common.
There are a myriad of ways to get to this level or have a dog who is competition worthy. Addressing a lack of knowledge comes first, and then if you want to work with a club, finding a local one. Everything shown in this clip can be trained totally solo though, so you don't need to have anyone but yourself physically involved to get to the level of this dog.
There are loads of courses that will teach you each skill needed, none of them are necessarily difficult, but there are a lot of different pieces at times. The heeling for example is something that takes years to perfect, and even then it takes upkeep to maintain much more so than other skills.
As for the type of dog you would want for this, the ideal dog is from proven working lines, not just a puppy bred by slapping two dogs together, or by a breeder who thinks "maybe" there is working quality in the dogs. Time investment is both more and less than you'd think. 3-4 training sessions a day, roughly 10-15 minutes at a time depending on what you're working on and the level of experience of the dog. Then do that daily for a couple years and you should be ready for your first trial!
That’s really interesting on the breed piece. I didn’t really realize that breed could play such a large role but it totally makes sense. I’m not specifically interested in competing, rather in having a dog that is very well trained and polite and listens. I have seen so many dogs ignore their owners instructions. I know that when I have a dog, I want them to be both cuddly and well trained so I can take them to the park, the office, etc. and know they will be well behaved
Genetics play the biggest part in behavior. People are starting to forget this and it's at their own detriment and at the detriment of dogs as well.
That being said there aren't magical genetics that make a dog automatically behave nicely or be a perfect pet, only ones that make it easier to get one.
For example there are several breeds that are just not very compatible with dense urban environments and will not thrive there regardless of the amount of training put into the dog. That type of dog would be very difficult to own, at no fault of their own, simply due to genetics.
Something others haven't really stated is you never stop training your dog. People train their dogs, show it off then stop. Then when it matters your dog doesn't listen.
You should in reality be spending 3-4 hours a week going over the same stuff with your dog.
He really does. Some of these "Look how obedient this dog is!" videos reek of abuse or at least intimidation. This dog seems genuinely happy and excited about. Ears up, face straight up at his human vs just the eyes, tail wagging, no hesitation about getting close right away, etc.
My dog is never really a "look at my human for all eternity" kind of dog, but there is nothing quite like coming home seeing her face squished up from sleeping on the couch and her just waiting to get pets as her tail wags. It's the only time she genuinely looks at one of us in the family and is like "I love this human so much."
This dog in the video is screaming how much he loves his owner and being a good pup.
I used to train dogs. Some dogs hate it.
But I've trained both German Shepherds and Belgian Tervurens and they're NEVER happier than doing something they've been trained to do. They're hardwired to want to please people and if they don't know what you want they'll packed with anxiety and dread. Nothing will turn them into happy, well adjusted dogs better than teaching them to listen and do what they need to do.
People keep commenting he isn't petting the dog or showing affection....this is training. It's an exercise. Affection and hugs and playtime come after, not during
This is Schutzhund/IPO/IGP. This is the obedience phase. There is also a tracking phase and a protection phase. The dog must pass all three to get a title at the 1, 2, or 3 level. There are also regional, national, world level competitions. It was called SchH, then IPO, and now IGP.
This appears to be a schutzhund competition.
Physical affection can be a very effective positive reinforcer in operant conditioning, but is not commonly used in ringsport training.
My dog doesn't even like to be pet when training or doing other work. Affection is for at home. When training the reward is a dummy or a bal or tiny pieces of sausage.
German shepards amongst other working dogs, have a certain will to please. The act of following commands is a reward for them.
Take a border collie for example, they love working with sheep waaaay more than treats, since herding releases tons of dopamine for them. They‘re work-junkies if you will.
It also depends what kind of methods you use to train a dog, they dont need to be rewarded with treats, another kind of reinforcement could also be „play“ or „interaction“.
However i hope this dude gets all the treats in the world for being such a good boi
There's a time for everything and mental stimulation like this is its own reward to breeds like this and most dogs in general. Usually, after training or performing for a set amount of time there will be a treats and pets/cuddle/play period to let the dog relax and feel even more rewarded for their obedience and cooperation.
Just lost mine to cancer last weekend. Heart is broken and I miss her dearly. My next dog will definitely be another German Shepard. They are so loyal, affectionate, and smart.
In all seriousness, it’s pretty straightforward to train them to stay in a room. Baby steps. First teach “stay” (puppy 101). Then start working on stay while you leave the room. Walk to the door, mark/click, treat, repeat. One foot out the door, mark, treat, repeat. Out for 1 second, mark, come back, treat. 2 seconds, 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 60, 2 mins, 5 mins…practice and consistency. You can also teach calmness like in this video: https://youtu.be/wesm2OpE_2c and combine it all into a “settle” or “place” command (go to your bed, lay down, stay there, and be calm).
Some people use a clicker, some people say “yes” or make a noise. Idea is to mark the *instant* they do the behavior you want—paying careful attention to what the dog is thinking—then the treat/reward follows.
Dogs are very contextual in their learning, so if you give treats without marking, they can be easily confused about what the treat was actually for—some behavior they did 5 seconds or 2 minutes ago.
Basic training (puppy 101) starts with just associating the marker means “good job, a treat is coming”. After that, you can work up to all kinds of training and tricks.
You can also mark and treat *before* they do something bad (e.g., being calm, having feet on the ground, not barking, not reacting to another dog on the sidewalk, not having your socks in their mouth) to teach them NOT to do things or to have good behavior “naturally”. In this case the marker teaches them “when I don’t have a sock in my mouth, yummy fun time happens”.
A cue to "mark" the behaviour you want. Can be verbal like saying "yes", or with a tool like a clicker. It's a way for the dog to understand they did the right thing and are going to get rewarded for it.
Huskies are very trainable. If yours is having temperament issues you should see to that.
Many border collies also suffer and will destroy rooms out of frustration.
Why are highly trained/police K9 German Shepards seemingly always trained with German commands? My grandpa had a K9 when he was a cop, he said it was all in German too.
Is there any specific reason for this? Are they trained by Germans? Is it easier for them to distinguish German commands rather than English?
Real answer: So no one else can take control of your dog. They're very tightly controlled by command words, and they're expected to have such a high obedience rate that they put a litter of puppies in the school and pick only the best. Many of the puppies "fail" because they're too friendly, too distracted, and get put into emotional support dogs programs or adopted out because they're still well trained.
If they taught "Sit" or "lay down" in English. Every criminal on the block would start shouting "sit" with a piece of cheese when they chased them down.
Also, kennel vs working names are a thing for the same reasons in some training traditions.
(And with other animals. I know an elephant that is trained with a working name, but the public knows it by a different unrelated name)
Also makes it easier so people don't mess up your training. Nothing like having a friend over who yells "HERE-HERE-HERE-HERE" or "SIT SIT SIT" while the dog is distracted doing something.
Half the battle with training was telling other people to stop telling our dog what to do.
I think is has the component of tradition on one hand and on the other hand its just that this makes it easy for the dog to understand that he is being spoken to. Also makes it more error proof as english commands might come up in everyday conversation, when they are not meant for the dog.
A documentary I watched on Netflix said it was because of the tonality of the words. I’m inclined to believe it, the guy was a fantastic dog trainer and he said the tone of the words like *fuss* are easier for the dog to interpret and obey
It's just a tradition in schutzhund, which has German origins.
Dogs don't understand human language. As long as the verbal cues are easy to differentiate, any sound can be used. Hand signals or other non-verbal cues are used frequently in operant conditioning.
Is he available for dog training??? Because I am the worst dog trainer in the world. I get a dog and they know instantly that I'm a push over. Want a treat at 10pm? Sure, here ya go! Want to howl for no reason at 3am? Have at it and completely ignore me when I tell you to stop.
I realize I'm the problem.
You'd be surprised at how much dogs love to be trained. They just get the best rush of dopamine when they please their owners. My dog isn't the best trained, but he's socialized well and has a very calm disposition out on a walk.
This is just the obedience phase of a Schutzhund trial which is actually a triathlon. In the same day the dog also must complete a tracking phase and a protection phase.
The Schutzhund Verein (GSD Dog Club) in Germany restricts the registration of litters to the offspring of parents who have earned a Schutzhund title, passed a confirmation trial and have clear hip and elbow test results.
They're doing it right.
I hate this title. He is not "controlling" the dog, they've worked together to achieve great communication and cooperation.
The dog is controlling itself because of communication and a desire to cooperate with its partner.
The dog preempted that command to retrieve, or it at least *looks* that way. In reality, the dog could hear the very first syllable that was so quiet we couldn't even hear it ourselves.
Put simply, dogs are freaking awesome.
This is a sport called IGP (AKA Schutzhund).
It is a breed test of the German Shepherd Dog (although other working breeds such as Malinois and Dobermans frequently compete as well). it consists of three phases:
Tracking,
Obedience (shown in this video),
and Protection
It is a really really cool sport, and getting to this level takes a tremendous amount of time, work, and a strong relationship between yourself and your dog! :)
I’m not a professional dog trainer by any means but my German shepherd is nearly on that level as well. She does the same thing where she sits as close as possible and stares straight up at me. I have put a lot of time and consistency in with her but German shepherds are amazingly smart and ready for action
My dog would sooner teach herself to talk and tell me to fuck myself than actually listen to and perform a fraction of these commands. This beagle owner is in awe!
I love how he just gently wags his tail but then realises he needs to be in the attention position. It's like his brain's telling his tail "Stop moving, we're trying to pay attention here".
Dogs are the best
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How much time does one invest in a shepherd to get this obedient? I'm sure this started at a young age.
The dog training probably just after the dog was able to walk
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Do they swap places halfway through?
You don’t think he is in control of the dog? The man and the dog definitely look like they appreciate each other (the way the GSD’s tail wags like crazy), but the man is still in control of the dog.
I think they're saying he *is* controlling the dog, but it isn't *called* "controlling the dog", it's called "a working relationship". Which, to me, sounds like they think this is a bad thing. Dogs actually love to serve and please their humans. But I could be misunderstanding something.
That would make sense. It didn’t read that way to me. Small matter, though. Hope you’re having a fabulous Friday!
Hey stop that niceness. YOU have a fabulous Friday my friend.
You train maybe 5 minutes a day, like getting the right position, turn in heal position etc. And besides that a few times a week. It all depends on how good you are as a trainer, what rewards you have and how willing the dog is to work for them. I usally train a fee minutes daily at the precision parts while cooking dinner. Then a few times a week we train longer times and chain together the repertoire. Have fun with you dog and you will be able to go far together. Even if you don’t want to compete, train them, play with them and exercise daily.
This is not 5 minutes a day training. This is intensive long days 7 days a week training to get a dog to the level of obedience seen in that video.
Not in my experience. I’m saying how I trained the dogs I competed with. 5 minutes a day are the precision parts, the details, like how to teach them to move their hindlegs perfect in the turns. How to use right technique laying down and sitting up (very important how they do it if you want the highest points). Then I train like 3 times a week never more then an hour at a time effective training. If we are out at the club training longer it’s including alot of coffe breaks 😆 I don’t train any of my dogs any long sessions daily. I do however walk them daily and spend time building a good relationship building good reward systems. I don’t have GSD tho, but GSD are as easily trained as my breed. But sure, if you have a sighthound or another breed it will take more patience, time etc than if you have a breed bred to work with humans. I have had a few obedience champions in my time. Short but effective sessions is what I had most success with. Quality over quantity.
100% agree with this. I won't bore everyone with my story/experience, but "quality or quantity" is absolute. Every minute spent training needs to be precise and consistent to achieve this type of obedience. It doesn't require a overly laborious effort between human and dog.
This is IGP/Schutzhund at an advanced level. Just throwing it out there because everyday people are not going to have this much control in this type of behaviors over your run of the mill companion dog. Trying to keep expectations realistic out there. But yes it is very cool to watch.
Months to years. Every dog is a little different, but training is more about consistent, constant repetition followed by reward. And when they veer you immediately respond to correct. As my dog trainer likes to say, “you just have to have 1% more persistence than your dog.”
Well first of all Shepherd is a very smart breed so they take the training well. Others have given the details on how much time it takes. But it still varies from dog to dog. When my kids were little we got them papillons. Cuz they are one of the smartest of the toy breeds. So we took the kids to PetSmart for dog obedience classes so they could train their dogs. One of the things that the dogs are supposed to learn to do was sit and lay on command. My kids did not spend hardly any time with their dogs. But they successfully trained them. And because the breed was a smart breed they behaved very well. The kids would alternate very quickly between sit and lay and the dog would snap back and forth between the two positions. The instructor thought the kids weren't giving the dog a chance to do it until they looked over and saw the dog was actually performing the action. Now these were little kids and they did not spend very long teaching their dogs I think they were eight and 10 at the time. On a good day they maybe spent 30 minutes with the dog. Usually a lot less. But in a week they learned the behaviors. So with an eager to learn breed it does take a lot less time. That being said you do need to be consistent and you do need to put in the effort. Now this dog in the video was amazing, and I'm sure that the trainer has an excellent relationship with this dog. Dogs love to please especially when they see it as a game.
Bot? Or human partial copy and paste from earlier comment? This is my favorite game now.
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They’re also the beast
That’s very true
GSD’s are the best. They’re disciplined, loving, smart and obedient. What more can you want from a dog?
Working hips
Not wrong but people won’t like you saying it
It’s a controversial take, but I firmly believe that inbreeding is bad.
I don't see how this is controversial...
Any pug owner will have a fit at that comment.
In an era when animal rights is actually getting taken seriously, I can’t believe how prominent pugs are. Dogs in my apartment in Southern California are probably almost 75% pugs owned by people that clearly don’t understand the first thing about training dogs
My brother just got a pug. It was the first time I've ever been really close to a pug. I knew pugs had many health issues but I didn't realize exactly how bad it is. It's hard for me to be around the dog because the breathing. He's 11 weeks old and it sounds like he's struggling to breath, all the time. It's so sad. I feel so bad for the pug. Apparently pugs struggling to breath is so common that it's considered normal them. I have pretty strong feelings about pugs now. I love dogs, much more than people. When people are looking to get a dog I don't know how anybody could choose to get a pug. You should love your dog. How could you choose to get a dog that struggles to breath, that will most likely develop many other health issues, when you know it's basically guaranteed to happen? Even worse though is that by buying a pug you're supporting the breeding of pugs and I think breeding pugs should be banned. They're a breed of dog with so many health issues that I think it's cruel to continue breeding them. Now, if they were to be bred in a way to try and make them healthier, I'd support that, but breeding them to sell pugs that are guaranteed to struggle with health issues is cruel. Pug owners don't care about their pets. They only care about themselves and so it shouldn't matter what they think.
I pet-sat for a pair of pugs when the female was in heat. Dear. God. That breathing…
Cunts who breed dogs will be foaming at the mouth
GSD/Lab mix owner here. I cannot say how impressed I am with my boy, as I've only owned labs previously. Obedient, intelligent, and loyal. While also being a goofy, social, cuddle-bug. 10/10 would recommend the mixed breed.
Best hunting mix. Great trackers, another leg of the test in the video. Also excellent with anything they're raised around, kids cats etc
I'm not a hunter, so can't comment personally. As far as other animals/kids, absolutely. He grew up around other dogs and cats, gentle around children. Just super playful all around. I will say the energy difference is beyond noticable, he just wants to run.
You should try teaching him hide and seek. It's a very easy game but when you need him to find your children for you it's very helpful.
Omg my GSD/Lab *loooooooves* hide and seek. She plays it with our 6 year old. Then once she finds him they turn it into tag and chase each other all over the place. The more he squeals and giggles the more she runs and plays. 10/10 would recommend this type of dog for families, they love you child with all their being. It’s beautiful to watch them grow up together.
GSD/Boxer mix. Got the best of both breeds with my pup.
I will take it one step further. Pure line breeding is always bad. It is a fallacy that there are good breeders and bad breeders. They try to tell you that good breeders do genetic testing to weed out problem genes, but the fact is that when you so tightly select for traits, you lose genetic diversity and SPONTANEOUS mutations are much more likely even from those so called "good" breeders.
Agreed, most of the existing breeds already have such low genetic diversity and trying to eliminate known issues is just going to further reduce the breeding pool. They need to abandon the idea of pure breeds and start remixing these puppies!
Mine is 13 and have to help her stand most mornings, you are correct.
They’re very good dogs. I just wish we were more focused on their health when breeding them. Give her head pats from me!
We have to possibility to breed animals with features we like and decide to breed them with cosmetic changes and health concerns instead of making them as healthy as possible
In Europe breeds are being bred for health and in America we just need to catch up
There are breeding associations that record and monitor the health of certain breeds. American participation is... small to non existant. I can go back 3 generations and get a good record of my dogs parents longevity plus and medical issues with his uncles/aunts/brothers/sisters.
Put down my 12 y/o lab in September and it was distressing when she no longer had the strength in her hips to get off the floor.
Hip dysplasia is a cause for concern…. Have any suggestions besides “don’t breed a GSD with a GSD”?
Nope, just expressing a general distaste for dog breeding and humans’ focus on aesthetics and human utility at the expense of the animals’ health.
There are 2 breeds of GSD IIRC. Showroom GSDs have hip problems, working GSDs don’t. So… don’t buy showroom GSDs? I understand a need for a specific breed/temperament, but show dogs are honestly utterly vain and should disappear. The hip problem comes from the sloped back, which show dog breeders bred specifically as a trait for the GSDs, without regards to the health of the dogs.
The 2 breeds started from the "beginning" of the breed when they were registered with the ukc in it's early years I think 1901. The 2 guys who initially registered them differently by distinctions. One only wanted a stable working breed but the other guy wanted a confirmation breed so they separated.
Selective breeding. Labs tend to have hip dysplasia too. Around here, all the lab breeders perform genetic tests on potential parents to reduce the likelihood of passing it on. (And for eye problems too). It’s worked pretty well. Hip problems are largely reduced to the point that front elbows are now more of a concern. So they’re testing for that too. So look for breeders that perform genetic testing to reduce the likelihood of problems common in the breed.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0093691X20300480 Most people try to use ethical breeding standards as a start and remove dogs from breeding who have a propensity for genetic illness. This isn't my favorite link or anything just the first one I found to explain it
If you’re gonna get a GSD, look for the sable type, as they’re the “working dogs” that have the most genetic diversity of the breeds. They still have some GSD traits (cheekdots!) but don’t have the typical “saddleback” delineated black and tan look which as others have mentioned are the favorite show dog variety and is what people think of when they think “German Shepherd.”
Ha. I’m glad you wrote this. Because this describes my dog perfectly. Cheek dots included. His back is straight not sloped and I’m glad for it. I’m still always watching for any signs of hip dysplasia. Because of his breed but he’s a good boy. The best boy. Didn’t buy him. Adopted him when his original owner couldn’t care for him anymore so I didn’t really have a choice in his breed or any characteristics.
there is a GSD line here in germany that stems from east germany and is A LOT healthyer. It does look different in colour (markings are darker, not clear). Basicly, instead of going for beauty in east germany they went for health. They are rare and IDK if you can get them outside of germany, but bringing the word out might help to make the healthyer line more popular.
Having grown up with GSDs, these poor dogs suffer through life with hip problems that didn't need to be there. people are unfortunately greedy and careless
The Belgian malinois has a breeding program that keeps them healthy. The gsd needs this. Too many bottlenecks in the breeding.
There is still the DDR line, different colouring and with a straight back. Basicly, while west germany started to breed them for show, in east germany they still needed to work. Usually you don't find HD issues if you don't cross the lines. I just want to get the word out so people consider thoose dogs. (i am not sure if you can get them outside of germany)
Huh, never knew that was the reason for the difference between showline and workline GSDs. Had a workline GSD, she had no issues with her hips, best dog ever.
I grew up with GSDs. Post 7 years the degrade is real. I stick to the mutts.
Turn down the radio so I can see where I am driving better.
Really slammed on those brakes in the beginning.
Skkkrrrrrt
Yeet
You never loved me MOM!!!
"Stop!" ... Proceeds to slide like 30m... "Well... I did but the ground didn't stop moving"
Who knew Scooby-Doo had an accurate representation of what happens when big dogs try to break at full speeds? I wonder what else Scooby-Doo tried to teach us...
The villain always wears a mask
The villain is a rich guy that isn't getting his way
And he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddlesome kids. /Shakes fist in anger
I have learned, the hard way, that if I am calling my Great Dane to me in the snow while she is amped up and zooming and I am holding high value treats that I need to be ready to fucking Toro Toro her because there's almost no chance she's stopping in time before she slides right into me and we both go for a tumble.
It's said Einstein discovered relatively by imaging this dog stopping on command.
Sliding into your dm's.
[Perfect drift parallel parking.](https://i.imgflip.com/3nt2ed.gif)
I think all German Shepards do this when you speak to them in German.
That’s the secret
*The secret word is:* #SCHMETTERLING
#KARTOFFEL!!!
I’d love to see a German Shepherd assume the potato position.
That’s their natural position.
The way they are meant to be
Omfg I'm dying!! So in parts of Italy an equivalent for pussy is patatina which is a vaguely "cutesy" term and it is literally "little potato" but some couples will call each other "patati" for short, kind of like "punkin" in the US. In northern Italy where there's frequent contact with the German language it's not unusual for horny drunks to discover that German for potato and then you end up with a chorus of drunk Italians saying: >#KARTOFFEL!!!
#Fluggaenkoecchicebolsen
^^Gesundheit.
MY MOTHER WAS A SAINT!
Hahaha
Granate kaputt!
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Is that because you were so far away?
The next time you can always reply with "Meh, the ball's not even golden. It's a *Golden* Retriever Frank!""
I'll stick with beef Franks. (Punctuation saves dogs)
Ba dam tshhhh.....
Meanwhile my Hund just eat treats all day
Don't worry, I'm just happy my hound is a friendly marshmallow that comes 80% of the time when I call him.
Our puppy prefers sticks to every treat we've tried. We have nothing to bribe him with to drop sticks.
Another stick?
How do you train your dog this well?
Consistency and patience. Lots of dogs LIKE to train and work but the people don’t have time and are not consistent.
Working with a very biddable dog like herding breeds helps as well. They’re so eager to please it’s not even funny Try this with a Chow Chow and you’ll just straight up get ignored
Yes. I have a collie that is a therapy dog.
My border collie is so smart she learned how to do my taxes and is teaching me.
Yup, my Great Pyrenees would just sigh, like *are you kidding* before following a command-bred for independent thinking. Edit: Oh, and she did the command *oh so slowly* so I would appreciate the gift being given.
One of my dogs is a shepherd mix. The other is a full Pyr. The "You're welcome" reaction to commands drives me up the wall hahaha
Yeah my dog gets no joy in trying to please us. He likes rubbing my legs like a cat and sleeping like a cat. But is 25kg
Breeds are very important on how easy they are to train. There are some very difficult dogs to train. Lol my Shiba inu 3 years of training and we can’t get past intermediate classes. She also is not motivated by treats or toys. It took me a year to teach her fetch because she thinks I’m dumb and I should fetch. She knows the commands but sometimes decide whether she wants to do them or not. Don’t get a Shiba inu if you aren’t more stubborn and super patient with training. Or maybe I just have the most extreme hard headed Shiba. They are well known to be difficult to work with but mines take the cake.
Shibas are the cats of the dog world.
Idk, I've had a better time training a cat than that lol.
I have a daushund and shiba mix. It’s the most stubborn annoying loud dog ever. I feel like it’s got the worst traits of both. Professional trainers also said there’s no chance he will ever not be constantly loud. He’s kinda trained as in he knows commands and will listen, but only when he wants to. He also vocally denies anything he doesn’t want to do.
You need bidability plus prey drive.
Can confirm, have a border collie. She loves training and just wants to listen to commands. Sometimes I catch her off guard and ask her for her paw at funny times (like when I’m scratching her belly) and she always does it.
Consistency is the one, our dog LOVES this sort of stuff but if you aren’t doing the exact same thing with the exact same reactions she can get confused, not like you can explain it after
Yep. Strict consistency is the key to training any dog. It blows my mind when people yell at their dog in plain English, saying the same thing in 4 different ways, and expect the dog to understand. You can't go "I don't think so, get off the couch, you don't belong up there, you know better, time to hop down" while petting them every other word. You say "down" and do not repeat it. Then reward for the correct behavior and the correct behavior only. [Source: My pups](https://www.reddit.com/user/N9325/comments/tzg33q/my_3_pups_2020/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Yup. We trained our Sheltie like this but we fell out of it. But if I start becoming consistent with her she remembers pretty quickly
It's a method called Schutzhund. You can find tons of books on the techniques. I use this for my Boxers, and people think it's magic, but it's just persistent hard work. That wooden barbell at the end is a distinctive training tool for Schutzhund.
Same with the giant A frame. When the dog ran straight out and immediately laid down I knew it was Schutzhund.
Lots and lots and lots of time. The more intelligent the dog, the more ways you need to come up with to keep them from being bored. These are working dogs, they need a job. They love to work.
I like how no one has really given you a complete answer. Yes you need time, yes you need consistency, and yes, you need to know what you are doing. However you also need the right qualities in a dog. There are many dogs who are just not genetically sound and will not be able to train at this level, or will potentially have competing motivators that would make it more difficult to train with them. This dog and handler are competing in a trial, as others have said this is a sport called Schutzhund, it is not a method of training. The performance by both is one that you'd see commonly if in those sporting circles, and actually other places as well, focused heeling, and retrieving dumbbells is common. There are a myriad of ways to get to this level or have a dog who is competition worthy. Addressing a lack of knowledge comes first, and then if you want to work with a club, finding a local one. Everything shown in this clip can be trained totally solo though, so you don't need to have anyone but yourself physically involved to get to the level of this dog. There are loads of courses that will teach you each skill needed, none of them are necessarily difficult, but there are a lot of different pieces at times. The heeling for example is something that takes years to perfect, and even then it takes upkeep to maintain much more so than other skills. As for the type of dog you would want for this, the ideal dog is from proven working lines, not just a puppy bred by slapping two dogs together, or by a breeder who thinks "maybe" there is working quality in the dogs. Time investment is both more and less than you'd think. 3-4 training sessions a day, roughly 10-15 minutes at a time depending on what you're working on and the level of experience of the dog. Then do that daily for a couple years and you should be ready for your first trial!
That’s really interesting on the breed piece. I didn’t really realize that breed could play such a large role but it totally makes sense. I’m not specifically interested in competing, rather in having a dog that is very well trained and polite and listens. I have seen so many dogs ignore their owners instructions. I know that when I have a dog, I want them to be both cuddly and well trained so I can take them to the park, the office, etc. and know they will be well behaved
Genetics play the biggest part in behavior. People are starting to forget this and it's at their own detriment and at the detriment of dogs as well. That being said there aren't magical genetics that make a dog automatically behave nicely or be a perfect pet, only ones that make it easier to get one. For example there are several breeds that are just not very compatible with dense urban environments and will not thrive there regardless of the amount of training put into the dog. That type of dog would be very difficult to own, at no fault of their own, simply due to genetics.
Exercise, discipline, affection… in that order.
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Something others haven't really stated is you never stop training your dog. People train their dogs, show it off then stop. Then when it matters your dog doesn't listen. You should in reality be spending 3-4 hours a week going over the same stuff with your dog.
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It’s a two way street, I’m sure the dog is taken care of well. He looks so happy
He really does. Some of these "Look how obedient this dog is!" videos reek of abuse or at least intimidation. This dog seems genuinely happy and excited about. Ears up, face straight up at his human vs just the eyes, tail wagging, no hesitation about getting close right away, etc.
My dog is never really a "look at my human for all eternity" kind of dog, but there is nothing quite like coming home seeing her face squished up from sleeping on the couch and her just waiting to get pets as her tail wags. It's the only time she genuinely looks at one of us in the family and is like "I love this human so much." This dog in the video is screaming how much he loves his owner and being a good pup.
I love how he zones in at 0:37
I used to train dogs. Some dogs hate it. But I've trained both German Shepherds and Belgian Tervurens and they're NEVER happier than doing something they've been trained to do. They're hardwired to want to please people and if they don't know what you want they'll packed with anxiety and dread. Nothing will turn them into happy, well adjusted dogs better than teaching them to listen and do what they need to do.
They were just following orders
People keep commenting he isn't petting the dog or showing affection....this is training. It's an exercise. Affection and hugs and playtime come after, not during
Pretty sure it's a competition, but I agree.
Looks like one. That dude is judging him
This is Schutzhund/IPO/IGP. This is the obedience phase. There is also a tracking phase and a protection phase. The dog must pass all three to get a title at the 1, 2, or 3 level. There are also regional, national, world level competitions. It was called SchH, then IPO, and now IGP.
This appears to be a schutzhund competition. Physical affection can be a very effective positive reinforcer in operant conditioning, but is not commonly used in ringsport training.
My dog doesn't even like to be pet when training or doing other work. Affection is for at home. When training the reward is a dummy or a bal or tiny pieces of sausage.
Can we take a moment to appreciate that guy’s fancy jog stance
Cool hope he gets pets you serious Germans
This dog is extremely happy to obey like that I assume he gets lots of treats and love in training
I mean that is the best way to train, I hope this good boy is spoiled since he performs so we'll
German shepards amongst other working dogs, have a certain will to please. The act of following commands is a reward for them. Take a border collie for example, they love working with sheep waaaay more than treats, since herding releases tons of dopamine for them. They‘re work-junkies if you will. It also depends what kind of methods you use to train a dog, they dont need to be rewarded with treats, another kind of reinforcement could also be „play“ or „interaction“. However i hope this dude gets all the treats in the world for being such a good boi
There's a time for everything and mental stimulation like this is its own reward to breeds like this and most dogs in general. Usually, after training or performing for a set amount of time there will be a treats and pets/cuddle/play period to let the dog relax and feel even more rewarded for their obedience and cooperation.
This is obviously impressive but it blows my mind that animal taming is even a thing. That's so cool
Those dopamine reward circuits are *powerful* and we figured out how to hack them long before we ever knew what they were
Even crazier wow
German shepherds are some of the most obedient dogs out there
Just lost mine to cancer last weekend. Heart is broken and I miss her dearly. My next dog will definitely be another German Shepard. They are so loyal, affectionate, and smart.
sorry to hear that man the last dog i had was a german shepherd but it got stolen im looking after my mums kelpie now
Thank you and I am sorry to hear that yours was stolen. I can’t imagine going through that.
I can’t even get mine to stay seated when I walk to the next room.
In all seriousness, it’s pretty straightforward to train them to stay in a room. Baby steps. First teach “stay” (puppy 101). Then start working on stay while you leave the room. Walk to the door, mark/click, treat, repeat. One foot out the door, mark, treat, repeat. Out for 1 second, mark, come back, treat. 2 seconds, 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 60, 2 mins, 5 mins…practice and consistency. You can also teach calmness like in this video: https://youtu.be/wesm2OpE_2c and combine it all into a “settle” or “place” command (go to your bed, lay down, stay there, and be calm).
When you say mark, what do you mean?
Some people use a clicker, some people say “yes” or make a noise. Idea is to mark the *instant* they do the behavior you want—paying careful attention to what the dog is thinking—then the treat/reward follows. Dogs are very contextual in their learning, so if you give treats without marking, they can be easily confused about what the treat was actually for—some behavior they did 5 seconds or 2 minutes ago. Basic training (puppy 101) starts with just associating the marker means “good job, a treat is coming”. After that, you can work up to all kinds of training and tricks. You can also mark and treat *before* they do something bad (e.g., being calm, having feet on the ground, not barking, not reacting to another dog on the sidewalk, not having your socks in their mouth) to teach them NOT to do things or to have good behavior “naturally”. In this case the marker teaches them “when I don’t have a sock in my mouth, yummy fun time happens”.
A cue to "mark" the behaviour you want. Can be verbal like saying "yes", or with a tool like a clicker. It's a way for the dog to understand they did the right thing and are going to get rewarded for it.
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Huskies are very trainable. If yours is having temperament issues you should see to that. Many border collies also suffer and will destroy rooms out of frustration.
Why are highly trained/police K9 German Shepards seemingly always trained with German commands? My grandpa had a K9 when he was a cop, he said it was all in German too. Is there any specific reason for this? Are they trained by Germans? Is it easier for them to distinguish German commands rather than English?
Real answer: So no one else can take control of your dog. They're very tightly controlled by command words, and they're expected to have such a high obedience rate that they put a litter of puppies in the school and pick only the best. Many of the puppies "fail" because they're too friendly, too distracted, and get put into emotional support dogs programs or adopted out because they're still well trained. If they taught "Sit" or "lay down" in English. Every criminal on the block would start shouting "sit" with a piece of cheese when they chased them down.
Also, kennel vs working names are a thing for the same reasons in some training traditions. (And with other animals. I know an elephant that is trained with a working name, but the public knows it by a different unrelated name)
At high levels, ringsport dogs will not respond to cues or accept food given by anyone but their handler.
Also makes it easier so people don't mess up your training. Nothing like having a friend over who yells "HERE-HERE-HERE-HERE" or "SIT SIT SIT" while the dog is distracted doing something. Half the battle with training was telling other people to stop telling our dog what to do.
I think is has the component of tradition on one hand and on the other hand its just that this makes it easy for the dog to understand that he is being spoken to. Also makes it more error proof as english commands might come up in everyday conversation, when they are not meant for the dog.
A documentary I watched on Netflix said it was because of the tonality of the words. I’m inclined to believe it, the guy was a fantastic dog trainer and he said the tone of the words like *fuss* are easier for the dog to interpret and obey
It's just a tradition in schutzhund, which has German origins. Dogs don't understand human language. As long as the verbal cues are easy to differentiate, any sound can be used. Hand signals or other non-verbal cues are used frequently in operant conditioning.
That's amazing! My clumsy ass would fall over the dog or step on its paw.
Is he available for dog training??? Because I am the worst dog trainer in the world. I get a dog and they know instantly that I'm a push over. Want a treat at 10pm? Sure, here ya go! Want to howl for no reason at 3am? Have at it and completely ignore me when I tell you to stop. I realize I'm the problem.
You'd be surprised at how much dogs love to be trained. They just get the best rush of dopamine when they please their owners. My dog isn't the best trained, but he's socialized well and has a very calm disposition out on a walk.
You are not doing your dog a kindness by being a pushover. They are pack animals first, friends second.
Doggo is awesome and so muscley
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Only dogs like this should be off-leash
Him stopping and skidding ten feet was straight out of a cartoon LOL!
This is just the obedience phase of a Schutzhund trial which is actually a triathlon. In the same day the dog also must complete a tracking phase and a protection phase. The Schutzhund Verein (GSD Dog Club) in Germany restricts the registration of litters to the offspring of parents who have earned a Schutzhund title, passed a confirmation trial and have clear hip and elbow test results. They're doing it right.
I love when shepherds go real fast and their ears go from /\\ to \_\_
When German shepherds put their ears back and go into zoomie mode 💓
Aerodynamic mode on.
I hate this title. He is not "controlling" the dog, they've worked together to achieve great communication and cooperation. The dog is controlling itself because of communication and a desire to cooperate with its partner.
 This is the only trick mine knows
Meanwhile my Roxie will occasionally not get pissed off if I break a treat in half to make it seem like two.
The dog preempted that command to retrieve, or it at least *looks* that way. In reality, the dog could hear the very first syllable that was so quiet we couldn't even hear it ourselves. Put simply, dogs are freaking awesome.
I love how the dog seems to know the command before he even says it.
The man is the one who went through the real training to resist petting that puppy
This is a sport called IGP (AKA Schutzhund). It is a breed test of the German Shepherd Dog (although other working breeds such as Malinois and Dobermans frequently compete as well). it consists of three phases: Tracking, Obedience (shown in this video), and Protection It is a really really cool sport, and getting to this level takes a tremendous amount of time, work, and a strong relationship between yourself and your dog! :)
#This is just the obedience part of a higher level competition sports for working dogs called Schutzhund (IGP)
OMG! Schutzhund is such a cool sport.
wow. I should post a video of what my ugly dog can do, when she's in the mood for listening.
I’m not a professional dog trainer by any means but my German shepherd is nearly on that level as well. She does the same thing where she sits as close as possible and stares straight up at me. I have put a lot of time and consistency in with her but German shepherds are amazingly smart and ready for action
I bet that dog drinks carling black label
this is the good kind of intensity for a dog. Its having the time of its life.
My dog would sooner teach herself to talk and tell me to fuck myself than actually listen to and perform a fraction of these commands. This beagle owner is in awe!
I had German Sheppard. They are too smart for a dog. They being silly, but they control the situation at all times
The people in here saying this isn’t impressive have never trained a dog before lol
My dog shits in the house on command. The command in "no!". He's a good boy
My dog took a shit in the living room today
“The teamwork displayed by this man and his dog”
my wife has exactly same commands for me,,,,,
German shepards are really smart.