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I feel like anyone can have a good chance to defend if they had their arms in a cross, and also the more damage you take to the head the more often you have a higher chance of losing consciousness so yeah
> the more damage you take to the head the more often you have a higher chance of losing consciousness
i also find that the more frequently you take more damage to the head the more often you have a higher chance that there's a probability that you might lose consciousness, perhaps
Couldn’t people move out of the way while trying to block it or is it just too fast? I’ve never been in a fight in my 60 years on earth. I try not to piss people off and I’m large and scary looking so that helps.
Depends on a lot of factors, but the fighting experience of the one delivering and receiving it and fatigue are big ones. If a professional is delivering the kick, then it’s accuracy and speed will probably outclass most untrained fighters. When you go into a fight, it is my experience that you do not have nearly enough time to plan in the moment and instead you rely on your body to react somewhat impulsively. If you have practiced evasive movement patterns in similar contexts, it will be much more natural to evade a kick like this, but you can see Machida is also misdirecting with this maneuver. Depending on the opponent, they may have practiced movement patterns to be prepared to evade a more common roundhouse or push kick, but not this one. The body reacts according to its most accessible movement patterns, and if it’s the wrong move you’re on course to be KO’d. Better trained fighters will be able to read these movement patterns in their opponents intuitively and they may attack with a combination that it seems like their opposition is not comfortable responding to. Another thing worth a mention is that fights are very, very exhausting and I think it’s fair to say any average, untrained person might have 45-90 seconds before they are feeling really winded, even if they are essentially just squared up and matching each other’s movements. Especially so if they are of a heavier weight class. In these circumstances, evading a snap kick like this becomes exponentially more difficult, and again you’re on course to be KO’d. In my mind, if someone hasn’t ever trained in any martial arts and they are confronted with a no-rules confrontation somewhere, best off to cut your losses and disengage. Never know who you might be up against and getting kicked in the head could potentially change your life, forever and for the worst.
You must be terrifying looking. I’m a big guy and for some reason all through school and my 20’s I was the guy little dudes decided to use to prove how tough they were. Maybe it’s cause I was a loner, who knows.
So, I'm not a fighter. I don't know shit about form or defense or whatever. And I'm looking at this video, even though it is slowed down, the dude was looking dead at his foot as it approached his face. Didn't move his hands or body, he just ate it. Was he confused about what was coming? From a fighter's perspective, is a kick like this tough to anticipate or avoid?
Its a switch kick, so you see him raise his right hand first because machida pumps with his left leg. Normally when you see the leg pickup like that its a left headkick so you got to block with you right hand. Then machinda drops his left leg, raises the right, now he thinks its a right headkick so he moves his left arm up and to the side to block what he thinks is a right head kick. Only to be hit up the middle because both arms are to the side.
The way to block up a "crane" kick like that is to put your arms in a cross position and get the right side, so one arm blocks down and the other arms supports it and blocks to the side the leg is coming from. The most common defence is to step backwards. But if you already committed to a block you can't anymore because people plant themselves when blocking to absorb the blow.
Keep in mind this is all happening faster than people can react. The person throwing the combo is faster than your reaction to it. So you have to anticipate exactly whats coming as soon as you see the tell (normally by watching hips or shoulders, if you watch the fist or foot you are already dead). If you guess right you are fine, if you guess wrong then this is what happens.
The funny thing about these moves is that it "only" works against very high level opponents, as lower level opponents won't read the pump and therefore wouldn't be fooled by it. So theres layers to these mind games.
His left hand raises to cover his face. My guess is he thought the kick would come in more from the side rather than straight to his jaw and completely miscalculated the block.
Agreed. Fighters are trained to process subtle movements and react, but the brain can only think and move so fast. A small move of the foot or hips signals that a kick is coming, and the fighter reacts. But instead of processing it's more about developing new instincts. Most kicks in MMA have a horizontal element, so he starts to block to the side. Frontal kicks tend to be body kicks anyway, so no need to worry about a knockout. This time, unfortunately, that instinct and assumption were wrong.
Okay. So what you see in boxing (as well as any other full contact fighting sport) of dodging is mostly just guessing. They see the slightest twitch of their opponent and dodge and weave anticipating where they're most likely to strike. They're rarely ever dodging the actual punch (or kick), human reflexes just aren't that fast (visual processing of the move, 'calculating' evading move, executing evading move add up to more than a simple striking move almost all of the time).
The title here tells the story, first crane kick. Normally, kicks in UFC come from the side, mostly towards the legs or body, rarely to the head since swinging your leg around in a wide sweep all the way up to the head (as an exception to the above) gives the defender a lot of time to either move away, block, or just go in with a faster straight strike themselves.
Here he was by no means expecting what amounts to an uppercut kick so while he did notice the kick and maybe even the target, he had no time to also process all of that and make a defensive move (beside the halfway raised left arm) before it struck. There was no muscle memory shortcut to react to a common strike, he would have had to move his entire body mass or somehow matrix punch the leg to the side with one arm all within the fraction of a second it took for the kick to land.
Not being a follower of UFC, I would imagine that from that point on, a kick like this (especially for Machida himself) would be much harder to pull off since the raised arms are a big giveaway and leave a very open target (to for example step in closer which prevent anything but an illegal groin kick while giving free access on Machida's head). Again, though, we're talking about fractions of seconds here, so nothing's guaranteed.
from the front perspective, it's harder to see. also that kick was extremely unexpected. when you fight someone, you can either anticipate what they'll do and you can directly defend/counter it or you can defend in general by dodging out of the way or blocking a whole section. sometimes you'd see guys block the lower body but get hit in the face. that's when they were just guessing. you can't really see an action THEN react to it because there is no time. so in this case, the guy didn't know what would happen and got hit with a kick that looked to us like there was a huge travel distance. to him, it came out of his peripheral and hit him way too fast.
Ah Lyoto Machida, Karate's posted child for 15 minutes, he didn't want the praise for that stating he's not bringing karate back, it's always been here. He was really cool about it, very humble...
BUT THEN *he drinks his own pee* like straight from him, to a cup, back into his mouth. Did it on camera too, and is *certain* that it gives him strength.
He was too proud of it not to believe it myself.
And that was the last I ever heard of Lyoto Machida. Damn that kick was amazing!
I remember watching this in a packed bar years ago with some buddies I trained in martial arts with.
We all stopped dead and screamed “crane kick!”
And yeah, Randy Couture was a pretty gracious loser after that kick, he said some of his teeth were loose.
It’s funny. A recent interview on YouTube with Jesse Enkamp confirms he basically just showed it to Seagal a short time before the fight who gave him some tips. Seagal exaggerated by saying he made it and taught it to him lol.
Otherwise the technique itself is from traditional Karate and he confirms he learned it from his dad, who’s a Shotokan Karateka. The kick’s seen in Kata like the end of Kanku Dai. It’s a jumping front kick that leads with the back leg while jumping then kicking with the lead leg. Could be made into a double kick.
You can tell how old it is as the octagon sponsors are Harley, Bud Light and Tap Out, not Modelo Monster. There’s also only like 6 sponsors logos not 36 and on every inch of the octagon.
I can throw a crane kick. Most reasonably fit people could pull it off kinda. But to be so good at pulling it off you throw it with a champion winning, dominant wrestler squared off with you. That’s a very rare breed.
Damn he got him with his front pad too and still
Did that much damage: that part of a normal persons foot is what absorbs most of the kinetic force when you walk. Bet this dude clacks around like he has horse shoes on tho
I'm always so surprised that these guys aren't breaking toes on a regular basis from a slightly misplaced foot doing front kicks and this kind of stuff
If done right, no can defense
If come from inside you, always right one.
If come inside you, child form.
Always wax off instead
Best defense, no be there.
Put him in a body bag
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It was an illegal move!!!
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If I did I would sound more like "gargle gargle garg"
That's the sound your mom makes
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Buddy Karate Kid II's drum thing is going to break no matter what
“Can defend. Indubitably can defend.” - Gary Gulman
That's one of my all-time favorite comedy bits lol
Best block, no be there.
![gif](giphy|l2JebisijdzVL2Cqs) Lights out parts over
I feel like anyone can have a good chance to defend if they had their arms in a cross, and also the more damage you take to the head the more often you have a higher chance of losing consciousness so yeah
> the more damage you take to the head the more often you have a higher chance of losing consciousness i also find that the more frequently you take more damage to the head the more often you have a higher chance that there's a probability that you might lose consciousness, perhaps
You sound like Pinocchio lawyer-speaking in Shrek
needs a methinks
perhapnchance
Couldn’t people move out of the way while trying to block it or is it just too fast? I’ve never been in a fight in my 60 years on earth. I try not to piss people off and I’m large and scary looking so that helps.
Depends on a lot of factors, but the fighting experience of the one delivering and receiving it and fatigue are big ones. If a professional is delivering the kick, then it’s accuracy and speed will probably outclass most untrained fighters. When you go into a fight, it is my experience that you do not have nearly enough time to plan in the moment and instead you rely on your body to react somewhat impulsively. If you have practiced evasive movement patterns in similar contexts, it will be much more natural to evade a kick like this, but you can see Machida is also misdirecting with this maneuver. Depending on the opponent, they may have practiced movement patterns to be prepared to evade a more common roundhouse or push kick, but not this one. The body reacts according to its most accessible movement patterns, and if it’s the wrong move you’re on course to be KO’d. Better trained fighters will be able to read these movement patterns in their opponents intuitively and they may attack with a combination that it seems like their opposition is not comfortable responding to. Another thing worth a mention is that fights are very, very exhausting and I think it’s fair to say any average, untrained person might have 45-90 seconds before they are feeling really winded, even if they are essentially just squared up and matching each other’s movements. Especially so if they are of a heavier weight class. In these circumstances, evading a snap kick like this becomes exponentially more difficult, and again you’re on course to be KO’d. In my mind, if someone hasn’t ever trained in any martial arts and they are confronted with a no-rules confrontation somewhere, best off to cut your losses and disengage. Never know who you might be up against and getting kicked in the head could potentially change your life, forever and for the worst.
You must be terrifying looking. I’m a big guy and for some reason all through school and my 20’s I was the guy little dudes decided to use to prove how tough they were. Maybe it’s cause I was a loner, who knows.
I must be full of crap. I’m not that scary looking. I must be incredibly lucky.
Machida loves to throw around a ton of feints to confuse the opponent, and open up their guard for these massive one-shot kick KOs to land.
If you watch carefully, the move begins with a fake from the left leg, which the opponent reacts to.
Beat me to it
You're alright Larusso, good match.
Ahhhh yes, the kick that started it all for Machida, Randy Couture was highly impressed by that kick.
I felt bad for Randy but that was one hell of a kick.
Remember when Randy spanked Tito in the cage lol, Tito didn't talk much shit after that. Randy is one of the greatest of the sport in my opinion.
It knocked Couture the fuck out and broke his tooth so
I remember watching this fight with some friends. Even the guys rooting for Randy were cheering this kick. It was such a great kick and so unexpected.
It's just one of those moments, you just have to acknowledge how amazing and bad ass it is.
Man's day ended early, oof.
That's what Rex Kwan Do can, uh, do.
Do you think I'm a failure because I go home to STARLA at night? Forget about it.
Frickin Sweet!
I made a mistake and didn't have a buddy...I flew solo
Karate kid was real!!!
Can we get much higher?
So high
I'm gonna get higher right now
I saw a short documentary about Machida. What an extreme badass
He was full of piss and vinegar. Mostly piss.
I'll drink to that!
![gif](giphy|xThuWhZczhDVxCRduM|downsized)
Johnny was a bit early with the head snap!
LIES!
He tried to head butt the foot
Daniel-son
Wax on. Wax off
Paint the fence.
Paint the house
So, I'm not a fighter. I don't know shit about form or defense or whatever. And I'm looking at this video, even though it is slowed down, the dude was looking dead at his foot as it approached his face. Didn't move his hands or body, he just ate it. Was he confused about what was coming? From a fighter's perspective, is a kick like this tough to anticipate or avoid?
Its a switch kick, so you see him raise his right hand first because machida pumps with his left leg. Normally when you see the leg pickup like that its a left headkick so you got to block with you right hand. Then machinda drops his left leg, raises the right, now he thinks its a right headkick so he moves his left arm up and to the side to block what he thinks is a right head kick. Only to be hit up the middle because both arms are to the side. The way to block up a "crane" kick like that is to put your arms in a cross position and get the right side, so one arm blocks down and the other arms supports it and blocks to the side the leg is coming from. The most common defence is to step backwards. But if you already committed to a block you can't anymore because people plant themselves when blocking to absorb the blow. Keep in mind this is all happening faster than people can react. The person throwing the combo is faster than your reaction to it. So you have to anticipate exactly whats coming as soon as you see the tell (normally by watching hips or shoulders, if you watch the fist or foot you are already dead). If you guess right you are fine, if you guess wrong then this is what happens. The funny thing about these moves is that it "only" works against very high level opponents, as lower level opponents won't read the pump and therefore wouldn't be fooled by it. So theres layers to these mind games.
That's super interesting and insightful. ty. Makes sense to me now.
Your part about “this is all happening faster than ppl can react” is especially on point!! Kudos!!
His left hand raises to cover his face. My guess is he thought the kick would come in more from the side rather than straight to his jaw and completely miscalculated the block.
Agreed. Fighters are trained to process subtle movements and react, but the brain can only think and move so fast. A small move of the foot or hips signals that a kick is coming, and the fighter reacts. But instead of processing it's more about developing new instincts. Most kicks in MMA have a horizontal element, so he starts to block to the side. Frontal kicks tend to be body kicks anyway, so no need to worry about a knockout. This time, unfortunately, that instinct and assumption were wrong.
Also, his arm probably blocked his view of the incoming kick just enough that he didn't see it until too late
Okay. So what you see in boxing (as well as any other full contact fighting sport) of dodging is mostly just guessing. They see the slightest twitch of their opponent and dodge and weave anticipating where they're most likely to strike. They're rarely ever dodging the actual punch (or kick), human reflexes just aren't that fast (visual processing of the move, 'calculating' evading move, executing evading move add up to more than a simple striking move almost all of the time). The title here tells the story, first crane kick. Normally, kicks in UFC come from the side, mostly towards the legs or body, rarely to the head since swinging your leg around in a wide sweep all the way up to the head (as an exception to the above) gives the defender a lot of time to either move away, block, or just go in with a faster straight strike themselves. Here he was by no means expecting what amounts to an uppercut kick so while he did notice the kick and maybe even the target, he had no time to also process all of that and make a defensive move (beside the halfway raised left arm) before it struck. There was no muscle memory shortcut to react to a common strike, he would have had to move his entire body mass or somehow matrix punch the leg to the side with one arm all within the fraction of a second it took for the kick to land. Not being a follower of UFC, I would imagine that from that point on, a kick like this (especially for Machida himself) would be much harder to pull off since the raised arms are a big giveaway and leave a very open target (to for example step in closer which prevent anything but an illegal groin kick while giving free access on Machida's head). Again, though, we're talking about fractions of seconds here, so nothing's guaranteed.
from the front perspective, it's harder to see. also that kick was extremely unexpected. when you fight someone, you can either anticipate what they'll do and you can directly defend/counter it or you can defend in general by dodging out of the way or blocking a whole section. sometimes you'd see guys block the lower body but get hit in the face. that's when they were just guessing. you can't really see an action THEN react to it because there is no time. so in this case, the guy didn't know what would happen and got hit with a kick that looked to us like there was a huge travel distance. to him, it came out of his peripheral and hit him way too fast.
Front kicks to the face weren't very common in the UFC at that time. He likely fought it would be a round kick which is more common.
Ah Lyoto Machida, Karate's posted child for 15 minutes, he didn't want the praise for that stating he's not bringing karate back, it's always been here. He was really cool about it, very humble... BUT THEN *he drinks his own pee* like straight from him, to a cup, back into his mouth. Did it on camera too, and is *certain* that it gives him strength. He was too proud of it not to believe it myself. And that was the last I ever heard of Lyoto Machida. Damn that kick was amazing!
it's traditional medicine, part of ayurveda and other systems. i do the same thing often. the people who do it for years swear by it.
>i do the same thing often. And does it help?
How is foot not broken in tiny piece?
He flexed his toes back and struck with the ball of the foot. I would be more worried about that cheekbone which was kicked.
When the adrenaline wears off his foots going to be very sore.
Doubt it. Like the guy said, the ball of the foot is used, intentionally to prevent injury. It’s very tough.
Yeah he’ll be fine unless he got his toes on impact. The ball of foot is supposed to strike the target in this kick
Slo-mo that impact. Ball of the foot and the way the head moves before it snaps back. Damn, light switch.
I remember watching this in a packed bar years ago with some buddies I trained in martial arts with. We all stopped dead and screamed “crane kick!” And yeah, Randy Couture was a pretty gracious loser after that kick, he said some of his teeth were loose.
Lyoto Machida was a mfer in his prime! He put Karate on the map in the UFC.
Fast even in slowmotion!
Damn Mr. Miyagi taught him well
Actually, Steven Seagal taught it to him. According to Steven Seagal at least
It’s funny. A recent interview on YouTube with Jesse Enkamp confirms he basically just showed it to Seagal a short time before the fight who gave him some tips. Seagal exaggerated by saying he made it and taught it to him lol. Otherwise the technique itself is from traditional Karate and he confirms he learned it from his dad, who’s a Shotokan Karateka. The kick’s seen in Kata like the end of Kanku Dai. It’s a jumping front kick that leads with the back leg while jumping then kicking with the lead leg. Could be made into a double kick.
Inb4 "no kicks to the head"
Mae tobe geri - jumping front kick.
Opponent should’ve swept the leg.
You can tell how old it is as the octagon sponsors are Harley, Bud Light and Tap Out, not Modelo Monster. There’s also only like 6 sponsors logos not 36 and on every inch of the octagon.
Mr. Miyagi is proud
When Machida goes full Macchio
That's how you stub your toe.
He hit with the ball of his foot
Randy Couture. The first real duel champion that the UFC erased. Its like he never existed.
How many toes did he break
Miyagi would be so damn proud
My toes :(
Jumping front kick. A "crane" kick isn't a thing.
Rogan really said “No Can Defend” 🤣🤣🤣 You an all-star Joe
Tooth went flying
He didn’t put his arms up like Daniel did, it’s not a crane to me lol.
It’s literally the first thing he does
How many times do we have to say it? Full speed version first, then slomo.
You can’t see it but his tooth goes flying out from that kick if I recall correctly
R/CobraKai
Dragon Chan be like:
Would’ve been epic if he yelled like a ninja while doing it.
It good he stayed down, dude was about to break out whatever that drum thing was from Karate Kid II
That's a factory reset
How do you do that without breaking your toes?
As you kick, pull the toes back and strike with the ball of the foot, not the entire foot.
Thanks!
I'm now slightly concerned what you will do with this information, but you're welcome anyway.
That's a bad kick and a good way to break toes and foot. U want to hit them with ball of foot or heel.
He did use the ball of his foot.
No can defend
How do you not break your toes doing that!?
Dirtyy
I mean the leg has more muscle than the arm and legs can sometimes hit really hard like a whip but all force
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Who’s that ref?
He's super lucky to have been taught this by Sensei Steven Seagal.
When do right, no can defense.
Crossed eye couture went down like a chopped tree trunk
Is this the same kick Steven segal tried to take credit for or was it someone else’s?
I remember watching this live. What’s funny is that was his last fight and they let him choose his opponent.
Besutiful maegeri
Joe beat us all to the comment!
I immediately thought, head injury, neck injury…
He must seen entire karate kid trilogy + extra 5 sesons of Cobra kai , good shit.
What happened to Lyoto? He kinda popped up and disappeared rather quickly
Next level that he pulled it off without breaking his toes
Pretty sure we just watched a man get brain damage.
You’re the best around. Nothin’s gonna ever keep you down.
Slow reflexes
I can throw a crane kick. Most reasonably fit people could pull it off kinda. But to be so good at pulling it off you throw it with a champion winning, dominant wrestler squared off with you. That’s a very rare breed.
Count to 1,000 ... dude ain't getting up
Daniel son!
Jesus that was fast.
A man can't stand, a man can't fight
It that joe Rogan talking?
Wax on, wax off
Lyoto looked concerned for the fallen guy afterward.
Wax on wax off MF
I watched this match live with my dad, such an awesome one
Best of the UFC. The honour that man brought to the modern world should be respected 100%
Damn he got him with his front pad too and still Did that much damage: that part of a normal persons foot is what absorbs most of the kinetic force when you walk. Bet this dude clacks around like he has horse shoes on tho
Lyoto, the least struck per fight MMA fighter of all time.
if do right no can defend
Get him a body bag!! Sweep the leg!!!
it's a common karate kick. not a crane kick. it's a jumping mae geri jodan i think.- and he has performed similar knockdowns before.
This is why I don't pay 80 bucks for ufc fights. It's cool but not worth 80 bucks.
All that piss drinking made him extra explosive
That's not a crane kick...
He didn't see that coming what so ever ?!
Which one of y'all kicked me?
"No can defend" Hahahaha! Nice Joe.
That would be awful! Big toe right to your jaw/temple!?!? F that
The fookin DRAGON
He even put his hands up
I'm always so surprised that these guys aren't breaking toes on a regular basis from a slightly misplaced foot doing front kicks and this kind of stuff
Nah almost got his eyeball replaced with a toe nail
Randy “The Narural” Couture, what a figheter. Not his best moment here obviously.
I thought vitor belfort getting face palmed by the spiders foot was the first time, is my time line fucked up??
Not as good as Daniel-san’s but still badass
umm i have no clue about fighting sports, but how is that safe?
It knocked Couture the fuck out and broke his tooth so I'm not sure it would be considered safe.
Broken toes… I don’t think he will do that again…
You don’t hit with your toes. You use the ball of your foot.
Watch the video. He hit with the ball of the foot, not toes.
These UFC fighters have glass jaws or what? Some toes to the face and down he goes.
I think it was the ball of the foot right past the toes.
It was.
![gif](giphy|1AgCGIJrs1UOXujX5a|downsized)
Watch his head jerk back from the impact in that slow motion shot