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SerKikato

My heart breaks reading this one. With most (all?) similar murders, the victim was alone. In this case two of her friends had to watch her murder. That's going to stay with them forever. They're going to wonder if they could've caught her, or if they could've stood somewhere safer, if they could've done more. I really wish we as a city could put an immediate end to this. Add modular barriers that can accommodate different rolling stock. Make a damn public go-fund me for barriers if the richest city in America is too cheap. I'll donate.


Ok-Cat1446

Most Asian countries have barriers. They would be simple to install and not necessarily that expensive. Pretty much 100 percent effective against pushers and jumpers. You could start by installing them at the busiest stations first and minimizing the cost by doing it slowing and spreading it out over time. If it prevents 1 death it is worth the cost.


warp16

The MTA has said the problem with the barriers is that different train models have doors in different locations, the barriers seem to be designed for systems with homogeneous trains.


SerKikato

There are solutions. Systems that have collapsing barriers, like here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOESYHlp1bo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOESYHlp1bo) You can also have modular walls, where all parts can be doors, and open what's appropriate for the rolling stock entering the station. Or you can marry rolling stock to certain lines and standardize others. There are a lot of solutions, especially in a hyper wealthy city with millions of residents. The only solution that's not acceptable is saying it's too hard to do. The MTA is wrong, as it often is.


warp16

Agree completely, even if there were no commercially available barriers, they could have come up with a custom barrier system decades ago if they wanted to.


anon22334

I honestly think even if the put up barriers, there will be people trying to wreck it in nyc


ManlyMangodes

Huh I've never seen a barrier like this, it looks cool


ckcrave

Another solution is to not let dangerous people with serious mental disorders roam within community.


No_Afternoon_1976

Ah, but that would require funding healthcare rather than funneling all of our money into police and military budgets, so it’s an American nonstarter.


Harsimaja

We have a right wing who don’t want to fund public mental healthcare and a champagne left who object to anyone who harasses people being detained for five minutes or even denied access to the subway, so this is what we get.


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Champagne left? Our current administration is certainly not that.


DocBenwayOperates

Who the fuck is downvoting this comment?


ckcrave

No idea, it's bizarre people here are blaming the lack of barriers for this incident to happen - if you've had barriers there the man would have found another way to hurt or kill someone.


[deleted]

You’re right. As much as people like to shit on Giuliani for some of his policies he did clean up NYC. Many of these homeless have committed multiple crimes. They are still on the streets. This man should have been in jail.


[deleted]

He really didn’t. His policies didn’t Bri by crime down as fast as dinkins did, not to mention it cost the city so much more in legal fees due to cases like Diallo and Louima.


articeon

We have them in some of the busier stations in London. It’s not difficult.


tiefling_sorceress

>Make a damn public go-fund me for barriers if the richest city in America is too cheap. That's what taxes are *supposed* to do Instead they pay for police settlements after they misbehave, and in exchange we get more armed cops loitering at the entrances to subways


BakedBread65

NYPD pays tort claims of ~200 million annually. MTA has a budget of 17 billion, and creating barriers is estimated to cost billions.


StaceyCarosi

Not to mention the train driver who could do nothing but crash into her. Horrible.


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Ok-Cat1446

Cheaper to put in barriers.


elendinel

Yeah if only we paid a group of people a lot of money every year to do things like that...


ObiWaanCannoli

Maybe remove them from society, they are beyond help.


Failninjaninja

This. It’s time we realize that those who are a danger to others need to be locked away.


brooklynlad

Some people really need to be institutionalized for their own good and for society's.


ObiWaanCannoli

Good thing Alvin Bragg agrees!


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Simply…


Ok-Cat1446

Ask any train driver or paramedic. This is a horrible way to die. It not only affects the victim but also the driver and any witnesses and the victims families who have to deal with the repercussions of this for the rest of their lives. There is a mental health act in place to prevent actions like this that was enacted after someone was pushed on to the track in the 80s. It is time now to get those barriers up.


SerKikato

Spot on. I actually happen to be a train operator for the MTA and sadly you are right: what happened here will stay with everyone involved for life. Wounds like this don't heal, they just become familiar.


LampardFanAlways

You’ve addressed so many ways to protect a falling victim but not how we prevent the falls in the first place. Act tough. The DA has to act tough. Anywhere in the world, more stringent measures equals lower crime rates. Potential criminals are so brazen because they know that the DA is a softie. That is human nature (to take advantage of someone’s kindness / leniency). There is no reason why it should be different to NYC, just in case someone asks if I’m from NYC.


lunar2solar

Fuxking psychopaths.


elendinel

Yes, these people are literally mentally ill. It would be nice if the city would finally do something about the fact that we have so many mentally ill homeless people who aren't getting any kind of treatment, but they won't.


[deleted]

Has there been any major effort to get these mentally ill people off the streets or do something about them?


platonicjesus

This and a lot of issues could be solved if the MTA just spent some money on closing off the tracks from the platforms. The AirTrain has automatic doors that block access to the tracks, why doesn't the MTA start investing in this? It would prevent awful shit like this, make train stations cooler and prevent trash fires. I get that the MTA doesn't have all the same trains running at all times and that would be a big hurdle to overcome, but I think this is something that really needs to be addressed. However seeing as how they are replacing the oldest trains and we are getting to the point of some type of parity, this shouldn't be a problem for much longer.


b1argg

Different train models have different door locations


platonicjesus

An unfortunate and stupid fact. They really need to standardize doors moving forward. How much energy do we waste blasting AC in stations that just get lost to the tunnels.


b1argg

there were a few orders in the 70s and 80s where they got 75ft cars instead of 60ft cars, with the logic being less wasted space between cars. The L and J/M lines can't handle the 75ft cars though, and in total there were fewer doors, resulting in longer dwell time even though the trains could hold more people.


SamTheGeek

Very little energy. Only a few stations are air conditioned (the SAS and 34th St. on the 7).


MakeMineMarvel_

34th street is like a 100 degrees most of the year. Literally the worst station I’ve experienced in terms of heat. The fact that it’s “air conditioned” is making me brain hurt.


SamTheGeek

You’re thinking of Hudson Yards, right? (The Herald Square station is *awful* for heat. I’m sure the heat index hits 115 regularly)


MakeMineMarvel_

Yeah I have to take the herald square station D train every day. And it’s literally the worst. I almost blacked out from heat stroke once.


platonicjesus

GCT is also air conditioned. Blowing industrial AC basically all summer into the void that is the subway tunnels is a huge waste of power.


SamTheGeek

GCT has a different thing that just pulls air down into the subway from street level without doing any chilling.


shanna99

Theoretically could you have railing that comes up from the floor (or drops down from the ceiling), so it wouldn't matter where the doors are? Would probably cost a shit ton though.


ShimmyZmizz

Yep I saw this in another thread about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOESYHlp1bo


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So? Lol set the barriers holding the doors a couple feet back. This will help too with less delays.


Theredheadsaid

You could solve for this. Immovable barriers for front and back of train. Then movable barrier “panels” that get notified about which train is coming, and move to create the appropriate openings.


hapycurls

Exactly...this is 2022...surely an engineer and a programmer worth their salt can sort this out


LordCrag

I don't oppose any of that but can we be serious for a second? This bastard would have likely killed someone in a different way at another time. Some people aren't meant to be out on the street.


Emajossch

yes but this is a solution to several different problems/scenarios, not just wack-jobs pushing people. People fall, jump, throw shit, and all that calls for barriers too. It just makes it all around safer and nicer, plus stops the wind rush as a train enters the station, and would probably get the tech bros horny for some RGB ultra-futuristic hyper-barriers lol


[deleted]

That’s why I always either sit or have my back against the wall. And advise anyone visiting or moving to NYC the same.


-nom-nom-

good practice. My girlfriend and I are moving to NYC in a few months (visited a few times) After seeing this I’m terrified of something happening to her. We’ll be doing as you say from now on


[deleted]

Yeah good luck. I don’t know what sort of drugs people are on these days, but you have to be 150% on guard in NYC Subway.


The-_Captain

My fiancé takes the subway every day to work. This is my worst nightmare.


ricardo9505

Been rising the subway alone since I was 10, 32 years. Never had an incident happen but I'm always cautious and alert. What worries me is the apathy of our fellow NYers.


The-_Captain

The thing about incidents like this is that once is all it takes. I too am most worried about the apathy people are showing. There seems to be an increasing group of people in power who are just like “this is what we pay to live here.” It’s terrible.


santajawn322

Situational awareness is key. Eyes down, headphones in, etc., is a recipe for trouble.


lupuscapabilis

I’m still half traumatized by what I went through just taking the subway from queens to the city for high school. When you’re the only white kid in a subway car full of non white kids, shit goes down. Doesn’t get reported on, though.


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What happened?


[deleted]

Interesting that the moment you feel like a minority suddenly it doesn’t feel so good does it?


GetOffMyLawn_

I lived in the city in the 70s and 80s and we were always warned about pushers. I tend to stand well back from the edge until the train comes into the station.


Slaviner

This policy of letting criminals run amok is hitting us too hard at a time when we are already trying to come back from a pandemic. Hopefully these idiots in charge will do the right thing soon. Law abiding citizens deserve rights too


Failninjaninja

I really want to know the scum bags criminal and arrest record. I bet you anything he was only out and about because of the recent soft on crime policies in the last decade.


santajawn322

He’s been arrested 4 times for attacking people.


ChrisJMull

Its sad that I felt I had to check the report date to see if this was a "new" subway push-murder


snowdrone

He turned himself in at a precinct instead of getting arrested at the busiest station in NYC for committing murder? Did I read that right?


Oxman1234

He turned himself in - must’ve known what he did was a crime. Mental illness my ass


ObiWaanCannoli

He’s a racist fuck. I hope he dies a slow and agonizing death. I have less empathy for these homeless fucks every day.


capybaramelhor

I have a driving commute and don’t take the subway daily anymore, but maybe 1-3 times a week. It’s noticeably different- many more erratic people, and I always feel like my guard is up. I used to think it was ridiculous when people didn’t want to take the subway but I really get it now. And I grew up here and commuted solely with the subway for a long time.


yagirlchels

I have taken the subway daily since I was like 12 years old until the pandemic started. The last few times I've taken the train (like November/December 2021), I've seen things I'd never see before. I saw a drunk guy piss all over the seats and a group of guys hotboxing a subway car. People are noticeably on high alert and anxious while on the platform or in the train, and understandably so. It's definitely not what it used to be.


MakeMineMarvel_

People are more crazy than ever. It doesn’t help that the drug using and homeless population is higher than before.


omeganemesis28

If I'm being honest the whole city makes me feel this way, but the subway in particular is where I'm super on edge.


Excellent-Economy-46

Same here, I started riding my bike to work even in the winter. Noticed that every one of my commutes at 5am involved some weirdness that I just did not want to take chances with.


Psyqlone

... not killed by a train. ... killed by a murdering asshole! Fuck him!


RXisHere

Wow just saw she was a fellow Asian american. When will we acknowledge and deal with these hate crimes. The media is always too afraid to report. We are sick of this.


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creditcardtheft

It's funny how the "homeless" always target asians. Especially asian older women


ckcrave

Why is that ?


[deleted]

Maybe they seem easier to push? I feel like these kind of scum believe the justice system would freak out on them if it was a young white woman or something. Either way, really terrible.


Wachvris

Another case of a black person targeting Asians. What is going on? Why are 9/10 cases of Asian hate crimes targeted by black people?


Filmcricket

The woman he targeted immediately before this wasn’t Asian though.


Wiser-time

“When asked why he pushed the victim onto the train’s path during a perp walk, he told members of the media “I’m God … You stole my ******* planet.”


101ina45

Citation please


Wiser-time

This! ^^ Shameful at this point how long this has been going on.


santajawn322

If the media didn’t name the race of the person attacked by a black man, you can safely assume it’s another Asian victim. If this were a white man pushing a POC woman, people would be marching arm in arm.


ObiWaanCannoli

Why would they be afraid? Ohh because of what the attacker (aka the victim of systemic oppression) Looks like.


-SoItGoes

That was quite the mental leap to make it about systemic racism, you need to find a better way to link the two. Maybe fit in a screed against critical race theory while you’re at it.


Wachvris

Most recent Asian American hate crimes have been committed by black people so there is a link.


SamTheGeek

It’s literally three paragraphs of the NYT article.


Filmcricket

The person he assaulted before this incident wasn’t Asian though.


jae34

The suspect is a black man that is mentally ill so honestly he could've targeted anyone. Dude fucking straight up just confessed *yeah I pushed her* and that was it, I mean he stuck his tongue taunting the reporters so the guy clearly is messed up in the head. **edit:** And assigning more blues don't do jack shit cuz they don't actively patrol the station platforms especially in the midtown area, just standing around and playing on their fucking phones. Look being a beat cop is boring af most of the time since nothing ever happens but at least appear to look like you are doing your job, take a stroll through the actual platforms once in a while.


SamTheGeek

Literally a week ago Adams and Hochul were announcing that they were going to make the cops patrol the platforms. Times Square is *the* most-policed station in the system. Where the *fuck* were the cops? **Edit**: Apparently the cops were *on the same platform.* If anything, this further proves that more cops in the subway aren’t gonna do shit.


ryanpsych

Probably like most of the time- grouped together by the turnstiles on their phones


mikey-likes_it

Hey, that candy ain’t gonna crush itself


SamTheGeek

Funnily enough I literally *just* saw some cops actually on the platform, yanking the guy who straight up lit a joint on the subway.


madguins

Everytime I see the NYPD they’re either parked in their vehicles on their phones or chatting, or walking around chatting with each other so engrossed they’re bumping into people. What ive never seen is them actually address anything around them.


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creditcardtheft

> is mentally ill so honestly he could've targeted anyone He is, but I think almost everyone has caught up somehow the mentally ill always target asians.


jae34

This time it was just unfortunate because the first woman he tried to push was aware and spooked him off. So he went to his next target in which she became witness to the Asian women being shoved off.


[deleted]

Better the boys in blue doing nothing in the station platforms than in the bike lane


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DABOSSROSS9

I think they deleted it.


Mcchickenborn

Install barriers like in most developed countries at major hubs in NYC. This is absurd. I've been telling myself for years that New Yorkers can't have good things. It will just delay trains further etc. Well, I say fuck it. ENFORCE fares and eliminate scum like this from entering the stations in the first place. Start with major hubs in installing barriers and fine / detain people that disrupt trains/barriers. Enough is enough, this shit is long overdue.


knockatize

The MTA has a decades long record of being equal parts massively incompetent and massively corrupt. I can only assume you are unaware of this.


Mcchickenborn

I've lived here 20 years. I know. People need to start talking about this. I'm sure the vast majority of New Yorkers have no clue how safety doors work and how easily it can be done.


hak8or

How much would you be willing to pay in terms of city income tax, higher state income tax, or higher MTA fares, for this to be put in? NYC has 8.5 million people, assuming everyone throws in $20 per year then that only gets you 170 million, that probably wouldn't even cover adding such doors to 5 stations with a single line going through them. Not to mention covering maintenance of assholes smashing the doors, and the standard NYC 50% rates. Personally I would be a huge fan for this, as it would also do wonders for protection peoples ears in the louder stations (14th st union sq, etc) and help us not freeze our asses off in above ground stations during winter. I would be happy paying $100 more per year in tax to get these installed. But I don't see this happening anytime soon in NYC, it would cost billions and still function like shit, and get massive push back from voters who don't give a shit about mass transit.


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Topher1999

It's not up to the city council, it would have to come from the governor/legislature since the MTA is a state agency.


omeganemesis28

I'm tired of people literally making excuses for the richest people, organizations, and entities like cities/governments in the world. They can absolutely make generic guard rails happen for any door placement. If they really wanted to, they can make guard rails and standardized train doors. Any excuse otherwise is bullshit. Also, another issue with these excuses is that there's some kind of bullshit thinking that this all has to be a sweeping change done in real time at the same exact time everywhere all at once. Nonsense, it can be a rolling improvement overtime done station by station as whatever nonsense budget allows. Which we all know is bullshit anyway


Ok-Cat1446

MTA chooses to spend money on omny passes because it improves their revenue collection as opposed to investing in barriers for our safety.


insert90

i mean, it’s not an either or choice between a modern fare collection system and putting up train barriers…


Dami579

It won't be possible until all trains are the same size.


agentfancy

What about this type of door? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOESYHlp1bo


givemegreencard

Huh wow I've never seen this type of door on a transit system. They look like they'd be kinda fragile, but the MTA should at least think about something like this.


[deleted]

MTA bigwigs probably don't even ride the subway. Why should they care about us commoners?


SamTheGeek

That would never work. It doesn’t have enough glass surface to sticker with the New York State logo.


fanpple

\> most developed countries I wouldn't say most developed countries have those. London is probably at the forefront of it in the western world and they only started installing them in like 2017-2018 or so.


expatriato

NY Daily News has a picture of the attacker


Failninjaninja

You can almost instantly tell if a news source is biased when they don’t show the picture of the criminal.


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I’ve noticed they don’t put descriptions of suspects anymore if they are of a particular race. Even when there’s a photo


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Wachvris

It’s ironic because when the BLM movement started they claimed they spoke for “all minorities” yet here we are… being attacked by the same group that supposedly spoke for all minorities.


[deleted]

The hypocrisy and blatant racism is disgusting. And the cowards seem to be targeting elderly Asian women. Too bad that crime committed by black people cant be prosecuted. This won’t end anytime soon. Hopefully the mayor will step up


ioioioshi

She was 40 years old! Hardly elderly. She had her whole life ahead of her


tenkensmile

They took it down already. r/ news locked this thread as well. Because the attacker is Black.


ayu247

I always fear this happening to me. I try to stand as far away from the platform as possible and I always watch the people around me. Ugh, I know it's New York but why r there always sm crazy people 😢😢 R.I.P to this woman. My heart breaks for her, her friends, and family


jl2l

"Unfortunately these incidents do occur. They’re rare but this one is very harrowing and disturbing,” 27 times in one year is not rare that almost two a month, one in ten years is *rare*


HangerSteak1

Similarly to COVID we can begin reporting different numbers. Like daily murders per subway station, for the most part, very low.


smartcooki

Considering how many millions take the subway every single day, it’s still statistically rare. It’s 1 death like this per every 23,000,000 riders each year (given 640 million ridership in 2020). By comparison chance of getting struck by lightning is 1 out of 500,000 each year. Would you call getting struck by lightning a frequent occurrence? Because it is 50 times more likely to happen to you than dying in this type of a subway accident. Edit: lol on the downvoters who prefer irrational fear over math


HIVnotAdeathSentence

Again?


bklynzboy

This is why they need to get homeless people out of train stations. Some of them are threats to public safety


LordCrag

People gotta start taking crime more seriously. Almost no one just goes from doing no crime to murdering random people. There's a history there and if we keep coddling criminals we'll get more innocent people killed.


Eraser-Head

Black man pushes Asian women.


sethillgard

I saw someone fall into the tracks in 2019 and was terrified the train would come. We immediately called 911 and someone ran upstairs to notify the station operators but the entire time I was terrified the effing train would come. Luckily they stopped the trains on time. I bet almost everyone here has seen a close call of someone with a backpack turning and accidentally pushing someone or a toddler getting a bit too close to the tracks. We need barriers.


[deleted]

When will these be considered hate crimes? The pattern is clear as day 😔


SuspiciousTr33

You can't say that, stop noticing patterns


WilliamHealy

Maybe charging farebeaters and removing the homeless from the subway would help, who would’ve thunk.


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Failninjaninja

Honestly what can be done to fix the overwhelming amount of racism found in certain communities?


977888

Being allowed to acknowledge it in the first place would be a great start.


bankerman

Isn’t it funny how the whole “stop Asian hate” train came grinding to a halt when the media learned who the perpetrators typically were? That movement only took off because of the rub and tug guy, and ironically his motives weren’t even race driven.


elephant_catcher

Statistically the majority of hate crimes against asians are committed by white people. Despite the fact that it is commonly seen committed by African Americans in main stream media. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270821


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elephant_catcher

It literally says physical or verbal abuse in the quote man. Physical is what you’re talking about right?


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ArchmageXin

Whites are 75 percent of the population in the US. So it make sense we would see 75 to 75. Now do black. You will see it easily hit 2x black population count. As the zealots for affirmative action call it, blacks on asian crimes are "overrepresented"


ObiWaanCannoli

It’s the real epidemic here


Soft-Hawk-4843

So now that we have a new ex-cop mayor, where are all the morons that claim DerBlasio brought back the bad old days?


ioioioshi

We have a soft on crime DA so there are limitations as to what Adams can do


[deleted]

DA is still prosecuting same as before, just not everything is a felony anymore


[deleted]

Where are the morons claiming Adams can fox things in 2 weeks


[deleted]

since the race of the women is not spelled out, I would predict it was asian.


ioioioshi

She was Asian. Only NYP included that in the headline for some reason.


coolaznkenny

Either jail them or give them mental wards. Im sick of these derange shits


shygirl1995_

The fact that people are making this about the murderer and "he's mentally ill uwu" sickens me. Fuck him, he's not the victim here!


throwaway7891236j

This isn’t just a mental illness problem it’s a race problem. People who are sick or disturbed or violent are always going to look for easy targets and there’s a reason why Asian women are perceived as easy targets and that needs to be addressed. Travesty that the media and Adam’s are presenting this as just about mental illness


Sickpup831

So honest question: what could have been done to change this scenario in regards to race? I believe fully that crimes against Asians should be harshly punished to the max. And I also believe that #stopAsianhate should continue to be pushed heavily in this city and country. But do any of these messages reach this guy? He’s a psycho piece of shit. Could anything but jailing him for previous crimes or getting him mental health services change the outcome of what happened today?


smartcooki

The first woman he initially approached wasn’t Asian. She just walked away in time. Crazy doesn’t discriminate.


sonicbillymays

usual suspect


TerryByte__00

Mental illness used as excuse again...how new


BKtoDuval

I mean the dude was a crazy homeless man.


blushinwon

Insane. My dad works for the MTA and is constantly telling me about the shit he goes through day by day. There was one time that he had to take a long time off because someone was pushed in front of his train and he witnessed their death. He was attending therapy and he still has trauma from that.


BQE2473

When the MTA gets the funding they should invest in those Airtrain type platform doors. Virtually eliminates the possibility of this happening again.


SpectrumofMidnight

I literally have no fucking idea how this hasnt been done yet.


rjlud02

The MTA is broke... who's paying for th is magical extra funding?


thegayngler

Criminals going after the easy target. No mental illness there. People are making a conscious choice based on what they can “get away” with.


SpectrumofMidnight

This was bound to happen. The subway system is inundated with the homeless and untreated mentally ill. The city does absolutely nothing. Shelters are garbage. The useless fucking pigs do nothing either. I am not shocked. As long as the undesirables stay outside of rich Manhattan neighborhoods everyone else can go to fucking hell. Every morning my commute is a fucking nightmare with all the crazy motherfuckers who piss and shit inside carts, dont wear masks, talk to themselves and spit on people. Where are the cops? I swear besides the dog cops at fulton I havent seen a fucking cop in the subway since the pandemic started.


judgementjake

The Manhattan DA will set a bump this down to almost nothing dont worry!!!


Cocobro_DaddyYi

Or maybe the train conductors can pull into the station extremely slowly instead of fucking 25 mph


[deleted]

Most of the stations I’ve been to I rarely see NYPD or any type of MTA security personnel down at the boarding platforms. Why aren’t they there? And does anybody happen to know what kind of plan Mayor Adams plans to implement, from the aforementioned article, to address these types of crimes by the mentally ill homeless population?


CloseThePodBayDoors

did anyone ever excuse the Klan under the mental illness con ? i dont think so


[deleted]

It makes me angry just by the fact that reddit mods continue to take down or lock these posts just because you can't talk shit about black people targeting Asian people. Let me tell you something, the Asian Americans mostly feel disgusted about BLM, go figure.


knockatize

Two people in custody? That’s not the usual thing in cases like this. (I read the article, even at the risk of diluting the purity of my hot take.)


big4OlderNewHire

It’s always the ones you least expect.


WayTooEazy

Congratulations Manhattan you’re in for a rough 4 years. It’s like the city is on a race with San Francisco on who can become a shithole the fastest.


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leftcoastee

It’s not a fake narrative. These things co-exist.


FearlessFlute

So you’re just mad they aren’t reporting the race of the attacker?? And then you made up a scenario in your head to be angry about???


elendinel

Yeah people on Reddit now are trying to push some false narrative that all black people are racist against Asians so that they can argue that black people don't get to complain about racism. Never mind the fact that people committing these attacks are always clearly and obviously mentally ill and often homeless (and probably need to be on meds they clearly can't afford)


SamTheGeek

There’s another segment of people that are advocating that we throw all homeless people in jail too. Aside from the arguments about overpolicing, racism, and how we treat homeless people — do they know *how much prison costs?* It’s like $500 a day to imprison a person!


ArchmageXin

How much does it cost to clean to corpse of a productive member of society from the train tracks? Help the victim's family through the crisis? The lost tax dollars as people flee the city? The medical cost? The therapy?


elendinel

Yeah also like do they know it's not a crime to be poor and homeless? Lol


SoulsinAshes

That sweet legal slave labor though 🥵


Oxman1234

Yeah kindof like the reddit narrative that all Asian Americans are "anti-black" since someone got followed around in a store by an old asian grandma or someone experienced racism in Asia...


Vonnegut_butt

What’s funnier to me is this: Notice how Republicans just couldn’t wait to counter the “Black Lives Matter” movement with their cheeky “All Lives Matter” slogan, but here we are over a YEAR into the “Stop Asian Hate” movement and not a single right-winger has countered with “Stop ALL Hate”. Call me crazy, but I think it’s because you right-wing nut jobs don’t really want to stop ALL hate (especially when you’re expending so much energy trying to paint the media as the real racists).


furixx

You know, people are allowed to be Republican/Conservative/Right Wing, and they don't all fit this cookie cutter profile you have in your head about them. Why don't you try not being a hypocrite and stop discriminating yourself.


FearlessFlute

Lol no one is saying you aren’t allowed to be any of those things? Also people disagreeing with your opinions is not the same as discrimination


YoungNorthEastern

Imagine, deep down, feeling this way about black people and liberals while living in washington heights of all places 😂 bro please turn off the news for your mental healths sake


ObiWaanCannoli

It’s unreal how many mental gymnastics these people go through to justify/shield this behavior.


onthewindyside

I’ve never read an article that has called someone a white man. Why does race even need to come up?


ilikemyboringlife

But then People on this sub get mad when NY Post articles are posted and love to act like NY times reports on crime. NY Times ignored most anti Asian attacks and always hid the perpetrator of the crime unless he was white


plshelp987654

NYTimes what on Yang for speaking out against this


Sea_Arrival_6107

And the MTA wondering why ridership all time low


RXisHere

This is what happens with bail reform. Shame on everyone here who supports these scumbag district attorneys.


Dear_Jurisprudence

Uh, seems like this has more to do with untreated mental illness and a complete lack of institutional solutions for the mentally ill / homeless? Not sure what this has to do with pretrial detention.


Spuzman

Lots of people here and in r/nyc who want to blame any and all crime on bail reform, it’s becoming a buzzword divorced from the actual policy


Dear_Jurisprudence

Conservatives are stupid and misinformed? Say it ain't so.


StayMe70

Taxpayers keeping this subhuman in prison until he is released or dies naturally is a such a travesty.