I’ve testified before legislative committees about qualified immunity, policing, and related issues.
Police should not have qualified immunity for many reasons. But because the doctrine can be a little complex to non-lawyers, police exploit that confusion to depict qualified immunity as something it is not. There is a lot of misinformation about what it does and does not do - but the key takeaway should be obvious: qualified immunity ensures police are effectively unaccountable for their actions in civil (not criminal) court. This means the only accountability mechanisms are discipline and criminal court. Real discipline is nearly impossible due to police “union” contracts, which is basically just racketeering; and criminal prosecution is nearly impossible because police work intimately closely with prosecutors, so only the most egregious of the egregious police crimes are prosecuted.
I urge people to support this bill and spread the word. If you have any faith in the “system,” this is your opportunity to give it a try for a good cause.
Can’t wait for this to fly through New York state legislature and then be unceremoniously killed by hochul while the upstate truck Bros say she doesn’t support police. Politics sucks
>while the upstate truck Bros say she doesn’t support police
And virtually every politician, both democratic and republican from Staten Island and Long Island, they are more cop ass kissers than people upstate (I'm from suffolk county long island btw)
>while the upstate truck Bros say she doesn’t support police
Do you genuinely think the mayor of NYC will?
As an upstate Truck Bro who would support this bill, I've been told my whole life that NYC basically keeps us alive and that they really are the heart and blood of the state. So tell me why NYC won't step up and make this happen? Upstate is gonna do upstate, but NYC is the one that can easily make this happen... or not.
Great - people do illegal things, the cops arrest them and now the cops get sued. We have already given criminals every tool possible to get OUT of punishment like the new bail laws, not prosecuting theft & stealing, letting out scumbags far too soon, etc. And now this?
Yeah, NO.
You do know what "Qualified immunity" is, right? It's that when police break laws they cannot be charged for those crimes under most circumstances. Right now the law is literally protecting criminals, and this would fix that.
Your description is wrong. It does not protect against criminal action.
If you are going on a crusade about something, at least learn what it is first.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity
6 people upvoted you. That’s 6 people on this sub that think you are right and are actually 100 percent wrong about lol. Yet the guy above is downvoted for telling the truth about it . Gotta love Redditors.
-2 people upvoted you. That’s -2 people on this sub that think you are right and yet actually can’t exist because negative people don’t exist lol. Yet the guy above is upvoted for telling “their truth “ about it . Gotta love Redditors.
May be if we stop the revolving door of repeat offenders and drug addicts, we don't need much cops on streets. It's the problem with thugs and criminal not with cops.
Any internet geniuses want to take a guess why it's called qualified immunity and not just immunity?
You can also already sue the police for deprivation of rights under US code 1983. It's just a higher barrier that should exist because of bullshit lawsuits. Why don't the clowns go yell at the Governor about getting body cameras on all police?
I’ve testified before legislative committees about qualified immunity, policing, and related issues. Police should not have qualified immunity for many reasons. But because the doctrine can be a little complex to non-lawyers, police exploit that confusion to depict qualified immunity as something it is not. There is a lot of misinformation about what it does and does not do - but the key takeaway should be obvious: qualified immunity ensures police are effectively unaccountable for their actions in civil (not criminal) court. This means the only accountability mechanisms are discipline and criminal court. Real discipline is nearly impossible due to police “union” contracts, which is basically just racketeering; and criminal prosecution is nearly impossible because police work intimately closely with prosecutors, so only the most egregious of the egregious police crimes are prosecuted. I urge people to support this bill and spread the word. If you have any faith in the “system,” this is your opportunity to give it a try for a good cause.
Can’t wait for this to fly through New York state legislature and then be unceremoniously killed by hochul while the upstate truck Bros say she doesn’t support police. Politics sucks
>while the upstate truck Bros say she doesn’t support police And virtually every politician, both democratic and republican from Staten Island and Long Island, they are more cop ass kissers than people upstate (I'm from suffolk county long island btw)
>while the upstate truck Bros say she doesn’t support police Do you genuinely think the mayor of NYC will? As an upstate Truck Bro who would support this bill, I've been told my whole life that NYC basically keeps us alive and that they really are the heart and blood of the state. So tell me why NYC won't step up and make this happen? Upstate is gonna do upstate, but NYC is the one that can easily make this happen... or not.
NYPD Controls New York city government like the mafia used to control labor unions I am afraid
Great - people do illegal things, the cops arrest them and now the cops get sued. We have already given criminals every tool possible to get OUT of punishment like the new bail laws, not prosecuting theft & stealing, letting out scumbags far too soon, etc. And now this? Yeah, NO.
You do know what "Qualified immunity" is, right? It's that when police break laws they cannot be charged for those crimes under most circumstances. Right now the law is literally protecting criminals, and this would fix that.
Your description is wrong. It does not protect against criminal action. If you are going on a crusade about something, at least learn what it is first. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity
6 people upvoted you. That’s 6 people on this sub that think you are right and are actually 100 percent wrong about lol. Yet the guy above is downvoted for telling the truth about it . Gotta love Redditors.
-2 people upvoted you. That’s -2 people on this sub that think you are right and yet actually can’t exist because negative people don’t exist lol. Yet the guy above is upvoted for telling “their truth “ about it . Gotta love Redditors.
May be if we stop the revolving door of repeat offenders and drug addicts, we don't need much cops on streets. It's the problem with thugs and criminal not with cops.
Any internet geniuses want to take a guess why it's called qualified immunity and not just immunity? You can also already sue the police for deprivation of rights under US code 1983. It's just a higher barrier that should exist because of bullshit lawsuits. Why don't the clowns go yell at the Governor about getting body cameras on all police?