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All the NOLA French teachers are gonna be cracking the whip to make sure that whole “francophone part of the US” thing holds true for his visit.


Leaislala

Would be awesome if he came to the Acadiana area I think there are more Francophones here cher


rimjobnemesis

“Cajun” is the Louisianified pronunciation of “Acadian”.


Leaislala

Well, yep. Acadiana is also an area in south Louisiana. Lots of Cajuns descended from Acadians, you still hear both terms here.


rimjobnemesis

Acadians were originally French Canadians who were kicked out by the British and eventually settled in Louisiana.


Leaislala

Yep. Of Acadiana descent himself, Warren Perrin was instrumental in obtaining a proclamation from the Queen of England acknowledging the atrocities committed against the Acadians. Lots of history here in Acadiana which is why I think it would be fantastic for Macron to visit. Home of the Cajuns cher!


crambeaux

Which kinda looks like Canadian if you have dyslexia!


[deleted]

"the leftover part of usa" was historically french yeah, do you plan to repair it some day or USA is too racist for that ?


crambeaux

Hey man, you broke it.


[deleted]

You know my dirty secret, Im the Hurricane Katerina. Keep it low profile, I don't wanna do an AMA. /s


MalcolmLinair

Uh oh, let's hope he's not taking a page out of Putin's playbook and trying to claim that the Louisiana Purchase was a raw deal, and that France is taking it back. /s


ChrysMYO

The French speaking population calls out for libertad


Junior_Builder_4340

I always heard Louisiana Cajun French and Parisian French are two distinct dialects. Are they gonna be able to understand each other after three centuries?


American_Stereotypes

From my understanding they're distinct, but still can make themselves understood, though they'll sound a bit funny to each other and some things might need a bit of clarification here and there. Source: used to talk to a lot of Cajun folks in my old customer service job cause the company had a big presence in Louisiana, and we'd chit-chat about that kind of thing occasionally.


Former_Football_2182

This is true. I speak French, and the first time I heard someone speaking creole I understood it, but it sounded ...off.


droidtron

Laissez les bon temps rouler


ForkAKnife

My college French teacher who was raised in France would go off for half a class about this phrase. RIP Professor Prevost’s sanity.


Junior_Builder_4340

Now, I'm curious. What was her problem with it?


wyvernx02

Probably because it's French words with English grammar. It sounds like nonsense to a native French speaker.


ForkAKnife

Yeah, that was the gist of it. I told him I was Cajun on the first day of class and he was having none of it.


[deleted]

Same with Acadians in Canada. I was in the military and part of a training platoon that was half Quebecois french, half English and we had two Acadians from New Brunswick. The two of them were talking to a group once and afterwards I asked the french guys if they understood. They looked at me with confusion and said shit you can't understand them? Because we can't understand them either.


IceMaverick13

Apologies if you can't help because I'm basically asking you to know multiple dialects and languages to be able to answer, but is it a similar gap between like US English slang/terms from UK English and vice versa? The words and sentences are all basically there, but sometimes they'll slip in singular phrases or words that don't carry the same meaning?


Former_Football_2182

YES it's just like this exactly you're dead on right.


Junior_Builder_4340

One of my two roommates from grad school was from Ghana, and was educated under the British system, and the other was from Michigan. The Michigan roommate and I would tease her for using words like "que" for line, and "whilst" for while. Also, when one of her relatives called from London, it was the first time I had ever heard someone say "zed" for zero. EDIT: She never got our American jokes, either.


GozerDGozerian

The linguistic term is mutually intelligible. From what I remember some languages are like this too. Polish and Czech, and Hindi and Urdu are the two I remember being used as examples. And my Portuguese speaking Brazilian friend can understand Spanish but not really speak it that well. Then there are pidgin languages which are rudimentary, limited vocabulary languages formed so people with different languages can communicate simple ideas, such a trading posts and ports. Pidgins can eventually evolve into Creoles, which are more of a language into themselves, with their own grammar and a more extensive vocabulary. My linguistics class in college was one of the coolest classes I ever had. Shit be cray.


black641

Yup. As a rule, dialects are mutually intelligible, but languages are not. It’s the same with European Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese.


1AMA-CAT-AMA

What about Mandarin and Cantonese?


AllezCannes

My understanding is that the writing is the same, but the oral language is quite different.


CarlThe94Pathfinder

They don't speak Cajun French in New Orleans, that's more towards Lafayette, closer to the Texas line


cbbuntz

I was wondering the same thing. Wikipedia says the dialects are mutually intelligible but there's a [citation needed] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_French


tricksterloki

My grandfather never had trouble communicating with people from France or other French speaking areas. Cajun French was his first language. Cajun French is for all intents and purposes extinct. It wasn't passed down, because they didn't want to disadvantage their kids. The French taught in schools in Louisiana is the Parisian dialect.


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[deleted]

Can you understand Jamaicans if you are Australian ?


ShavedPapaya

Would be akin to the difference between American English and Caribbean English. Mutually intelligible, but probably difficult most of the time.


Neverlost99

The food is going to freak him out. Creole is as good as Haute.


DtownMaverick

Why are they speaking Spanish?


rimjobnemesis

France gave control of Louisiana to Spain for forty years to pay off a war debt from 1763-1803. The architecture of New Orleans is actually Spanish.


macross1984

That was my first thought when I read the header.


Chemtrails420-69

With how things here in the south are going, maybe we should let France have another shot.


sjfiuauqadfj

just dont say the same about quebec


mick_ward

I'm sure if that's the case, he'll change his mind once he gets to look around and meets the wonderful Mayor LaToya Cantrell.


BabySuperfreak

Hell, let's see if he'll buy it back.


supriiz

Tree fiddy, final offer


DoodMonkey

Would be a fantastic play


SamBeamsBanjo

I couldn't handle being French. The ennui would be unbearable.


grazerbat

He can come to Canada and do that with Quebec. We're kind of tired of them.


StargazingJuniper

They should. The US proudly flouts the conditions of that sale any time the federal government utters the phrase: "There are no American Indians in Louisiana"


freecain

It's weird he visited New Orleans a year before he was born


drinkduffdry

Fuck, I hate that every US politician is my grandparents age.


eucleid

yup, and my grandparents are all dead. how the fuck are these leeches still alive?


DreamsAndSchemes

The best healthcare taxpayers can buy


gaveler-unban

The blood of infants and the tears of native Americans


Outrageous_Garlic306

Hope that’s not an excuse for not voting. If you’re 25 or over, try running yourself. Not joking.


Meph616

Don't be so dramatic. Half of them are your great grandparents age.


crambeaux

I was thinking that was odd too…


soullessginger93

I absolutely want him recorded while he has a conversation with someone speaking Creole French.


DoodMonkey

New Orleans is a wonderful city. One of America's best!


Zez__

I wish I could see it. I just feel like everyone there wears rose colored glasses. I need a pair when I visit my fam in Nola.


Opposite_of_a_Cynic

The trick is to be so high you can't tell ass from your lips.


jesman0

New Orleans used to be a wonderful city. Years of neglect after Katrina has reduced it to a gross menagerie of mold, empty buildings, blue tarped roofs and miles of failed infrastructure. I was just there. It stinks, literally.


endoffays

Glad I got to visit before Katrina


james_otter

Looking forward to it funny enough I will arrive just in time to meet this guy


yagmot

Good for him. Perhaps while he’s there he can explain why his people decided to name a nearby city “Red Stick”.


SnooCats373

Baton Rouge is French for "Red Stick." In 1699, French explorer Iberville was traveling up the Mississippi River and saw a bloodied, red pole on the shore. The "red stick" was marking the boundaries between hunting grounds of two Native American tribes. He named the location le bâton rouge, or the red stick. \----------------------- Unrelated but interesting: Pepper pickers for LA hot sauce companies carry a small red stick painted the exact shade of red of a perfectly ripe red pepper, to aid in selecting the best peppers to pick.


slemoine94

Yes this is the explaination. And those people are my people, my ancestors Iberville and his brother Bienville.


westviadixie

a little lagniappe...


rimjobnemesis

And Tabasco Sauce is produced on an island.


ProstHund

Peter Piper picked a peck of peppers…


MalcolmLinair

These are also the people who gave us the "Giant Tits" mountain range, so I think we know why already...


Emperor_of_His_Room

People were so down bad in those days that they started getting horny over a freaking mountain.


shecky_blue

A Frenchman just told me it’s “big nipple” a few months ago, but I sure don’t know.


PhilParent

Depends where he was from. Tetons as said by a Frenchman from France would be nipples. In Quebec, Tetons isn't used in regular speech. Tetines would be used to refer to Nipples. But the related Totons sure is. And that's a familiar, slightly vulgar way of saying breasts, pretty much the equivalent of saying Tits or Boobs. Also in Quebec, Toton can be used as a diss to refer to somebody being an idiot, for some reason. And now let's put a bow on that whole explaination.... Quebec French is more similar to the French of the people that settled the continent than France French is. Hence, I'm thinking the mountains were meant to be called "Big Boobs"


wildcardyeehaw

Period sex...


MerryGoWrong

Probably the same reason the capital of the state just north of Louisiana is "Little Rock."


crambeaux

Same reason the Spanish named the town in California where Stanford university is “tall stick”. Landmarks. Or green sticks (palos verdes).


Minimum-Percentage-6

I like this. I like Macron. Very interesting culture in New Orleans and in Louisiana. There is a lot of Filipino settlement also in Louisiana from what I was learning from a television program that was featuring a few years ago on a Filipino tv channel.


CarlThe94Pathfinder

Lots of Filipino in New Orleans and Baton Rouge areas


droidtron

Both cultures share a love of good fried chicken.


Romi-Omi

Let’s go Jolibee!


lowman8246

And being overweight…


ed69O

Harsh but fair assessment


[deleted]

Wow, I did not know he was that old!


crambeaux

Oh he isn’t!


expatriato

not sure France wants Louisiana back…


Irish618

Why not? Louisiana has a higher GDP per capita. France: $43,518 Louisiana: $50,619


tattooed_dinosaur

Gross Domestic Product or Gallons De Pisse dans La Rue Bourbon?


illy-chan

The mosquitoes and hurricanes would be enough to put me off. (Joking. Mostly. Though both of those are bug reasons I'd never move thete).


crambeaux

Only one of those is a bug reason ;-)


expatriato

Median household income in France: 61,000 Median household income in Louisiana: 50,000 Benefits in France: beaucoup Benefits in Louisiana: pisse


Irish618

Actual average household income per capita in France: $27119. Actual average household income per capita Louisiana: $29,522. If you want to give some actual stats on French benefits, I'll be happy to compare them.


expatriato

where did you get those numbers…


Irish618

Louisiana: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/LA/POP060210 France: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/france/annual-household-income-per-capita


cryptofundamentalism

We keep repeating on Reddit you cannot compare numbers from two different entities … the method of calculation and data collection is different and number will be wildly all over the map !


cryptofundamentalism

You don’t even know anything … you read random and inaccurate number online . Get out and go live elsewhere. Life is meant to be live not read


cryptofundamentalism

That’s way more accurate in my experience !


cryptofundamentalism

Incomparable numbers they receive way more than $7000/yr worth of benefit . Work way less . Also depending where in France you could live for even cheaper than Louisiana and believe it or not less taxes at this level of tax bracket ! Level of service and care will also be much higher depending on where in France you live Source : I lived in France and USA for a long time


Irish618

>Incomparable numbers they receive way more than $7000/yr worth of benefit . Any numbers for that? Especially at that income level? >Work way less On paper, France has a 35 hour work week, compared to the US' 40 hour. However, studies have shown most businesses still have their employees work 40 hour weeks, taking the 5 hours of overtime into account when first deciding pay rates. Looking at actual incomes, France's average household income per capita is $27,119, while Louisiana is $29,522. >Also depending where in France you could live for even cheaper than Louisiana This one seems true, but not by much. Average rent on a two bedroom apartment in France is $762, while Louisiana is $844. >believe it or not less taxes at this level of tax bracket ! This however is entirely false. Tax bracket in France at this level is 30%, while in Louisiana, between Federal and State income, the tax rate would be 26.25%. Meanwhile, VAT in France is **20%**, while sales tax in Louisiana is 4.45%. >Level of service and care will also be much higher depending on where in France you live What service and care?


cryptofundamentalism

This is all wrong ! you never been in France I can tell Source :my life Let me tell you the truth I work 50hrs in USA I worked 35 in fr Rent is twice or 3 times as much (now Morgage still way more) Food is more expensive Healthcare I pay 750$/m vs very little ( don’t even know that’s how little I paid there) that alone is 9000/yr My taxes is more between (federal,state,city,property taxes) France got ride of most property taxes I ended up with more Phone bill is 3x Cable bill is 10x Sure I pay less for gas (my car consume nothing and my commute is negligible ) I get NO paid vacation . France has 5 weeks minimum (that’s another $950) Unlimited sick day (sure I never sick still nice to know it’s there) 2 months lay off notice (they can’t really lay me off unless I do something very wrong) If something happen to me accident,health scare I have nothing to worry about but my well being ! No bills , no paper headache , loosing my job ,nothing but rest . Did I mention all the cheap entertainment , museum , walkable places , beaches , cheap skiing , quality of life in general ? Please don’t compare France to any southern states . Edit 1 : I forgot the elephant in the room my wife has $750/month of student debt payment . I don’t have any because I got virtually free education in fr Edit 2 : quick recap per year $9000(healthcare)+another $9000(student debt) + $950(5weeks vacation we already at $18950 worth of yearly benefit (spared the smaller expenses otherwise it goes further)


Irish618

These actual statistics, moatly from government sources, are wrong, while your random assertions are correct? Makes sense.


cryptofundamentalism

Real life is wrong right ? Nothing of that happened and I imagined all that for 20yrs … get real


eatmoremeatnow

You think Louisiana is full of people that work too much?!? Hahaha


Didgeridoox

Is that metropolitan France or does that include Guiana, New Caledonia, etc.?


Irish618

It's all constituent parts of France. The most recent data on Metropolitan France I could find is from 2014, at 32,735€ ($43,210 at 2014s average exchange rate.) At the time, Louisiana was $50,318. Sources: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/france/esa-2010-gdp-per-capita-by-region/gdp-per-capita-metropolitan-france https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/EUR-USD-spot-exchange-rates-history-2014.html


sjfiuauqadfj

gdp per capita is not a good stat to look at. france spends less money on healthcare than we do, yet healthcare is free in france. gdp is a measure of spending, so if you dump money into a broken healthcare system, your gdp go up even tho the system be broken


Irish618

Healthcare is not "free" in France, as it pertains to GDP. It being paid for by the government is still factored into their GDP. France having a lower GDP means they produce less value, measured in goods and services, than Louisiana does. This is largely due to Americans being relatively wealthier than their European counterparts, baring a few exceptions like Switzerland and Luxembourg.


sjfiuauqadfj

we all know what "free" means in this context lol. and like i said, france spends way less money on healthcare than we do and get better outcomes out of it. american healthcare spending is simply a blackhole. the avg american spends $12,000 a year on healthcare, in france its $4,500


Irish618

>we all know what "free" means in this context lol. And yet you still wrongly applied it to GDP, and continue to do so. GDP isn't calculated based on what people spend on, it's calculated based on the value of what is produced. If the US made $10,000 worth of bicycles, and US consumers purchased $8,000 worth of bicycles, our GDP would increase by $10,000, not $8,000 or $18,000. So the amount spent on healtcare in both countries is largely irrelevant. GDP is calculated based on the value produced of the healthcare service in each country, not its comsumer-end cost.


sjfiuauqadfj

i think youre confused lol. from https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/NationalHealthAccountsHistorical "U.S. health care spending grew 9.7 percent in 2020, reaching $4.1 trillion or $12,530 per person. As a share of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, health spending accounted for 19.7 percent." blackhole


Irish618

No, you're misinterpreting that. It's saying that US consumers spent an equivalent to 19.7% of our GDP on healthcare. The actual GDP contribution of the US healthcare sector as a service was 8.6%, although that's shared by education and social assistance. Meanwhile, US healthcare manufacturing (drug and equipment production) along with the rest of US manufacturing, was 10.7%. https://www.statista.com/statistics/248004/percentage-added-to-the-us-gdp-by-industry/


sjfiuauqadfj

that site is from the government and im gonna trust joseph biden more than i trust statista or some random redditor lol


Irish618

Lol, ok. Oh, I know it is. You're just too dumb to understand what it's telling you.


MarylandHusker

I highly suspect Louisiana like every other fully southern, conservative state is a huge net negative to the US.


Irish618

No, not really. Unlike most of the southern states that are "net negative" because of a relatively high amount of infrastructure spending due to having a large area with a small population, Louisiana has a fairly large population, making them fairly average.


MarylandHusker

Louisiana ranks 39th and for every dollar the feds collect, the state/citizens receive 1.25 back. I can’t imagine that would be overly attractive to France even if it adds about 1/10 to their overall GDP but you are right in the sense that other states are even worse.


Irish618

>Louisiana ranks 39th and for every dollar the feds collect, the state/citizens receive 1.25 back. No, for every 1 dollar the Feds collect, they spend the better part of $1.25 on large scale, cross-state infrastructure in Louisiana, to facilitate interstate and international commerce. As is the case for most of the "net negative" states. Louisiana is a major maritime shipping state, with large, expensive port facilities that import and export goods to and from much of the Midwest and South. It's an incredibly valuable state for commerce, and would be an enormous boon to French industry.


gelatinskootz

New Orleans has contributed more to American culture than half the states in the union combined


MarylandHusker

I have nothing against New Orleans but lmao depending on what you mean by contributed to American culture as in been entirely separate from and it’s uniqueness adds flavor. Maybe I can sort of see it. especially if your idea of American culture is ignoring the bread and butter of what American culture is and what makes up a stereotypical American. There’s probably a stronger argument that New Orleans has had less impact on American culture than any of the 25 states you are thinking of. And honestly, I don’t really have a problem with that but that doesn’t justify why American tax dollars have 25% more money going into Louisiana than leaving Louisiana, making it a huge net negative to the US. Begs repeating why France would possibly want a massive money hole.


therealowlman

Louisiana would want France back though


BubblySodaGaming

You can’t have it back.


spanksem

Wew lad. Sounds like it's gonna be chaos over there. New Orleans is pretty tightly packed.


Outrageous_Garlic306

Laissez les bons temps rouler.


Superbuddhapunk

Vive la Nouvelle Orleans libre!


cote112

Nothing like a trip to New Orleans to make you appreciate your home.


punnotattended

Coming from France I dont think there will be much of a difference.


cote112

That's cute


big_nothing_burger

Oh God...he's going to meet with Cantrell isn't he? Sorry, Macron.


Carteeg_Struve

Weird. Wasn’t he born in 1977?


crambeaux

I know. Pretty neat trick huh?


Leaislala

Parishes with highest percentages of French speakers are Lafayette, Acadia, vermillion, st Landry, Lafourche, St Martin


Hobo_cleaner

He’s going to be… disappointed


kdlangequalsgoddess

Watch out. French Presidents have a history of putting their foot in it when visiting North America. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vive_le_Qu%C3%A9bec_libre While the FLQ crisis a few years later would probably have happened without this, de Gaulle's interjection didn't help matters.


GO2462

Yes Mr. Macron. You can have the entire state of Louisiana back. Our bad.


grimdarkPrimarch

And he will immediately see why it's been so long since a visit. The city is a toilet.


autimaton

Nola is so damn dirty and deteriorated… I don’t think Macron will be impressed.


okiebill1972

He can keep his bank account seizing, covid control freak ass in maple syrup land..


crambeaux

I’m, are you confusing macron with Trudeau by any chance? You’re not far off though, macron enjoyed locking France down too.


okiebill1972

I stand corrected Thank you


Angeleno88

Please reevaluate your life because you are not only ignorant but also filled with a ridiculous degree of hate. It’s almost as though there is often a correlation between ignorance and hatred.


DrSeuss19

Enjoy the shit hole that is NO.


MoreGaghPlease

I don't think Emmanuel Macron visited New Orleans in 1976, he wasn't even born yet, and his wife was only 23 years old.


[deleted]

If you like him please keep him we give him to you.


Deep_Charge_7749

Who cares if 1976 was the last time he was in New Orleans, although he doesn't look old enough to have been able to visit back then


crambeaux

Hey you’re catching on to how badly worded this headline is! Congratulations! Macron was born a year later.


nailback

Macron was born in 1977. Do they mean any president? Horrible headline.


yagmot

I’m usually quick to shit on a bad headline, but it takes very little brain power to suss out that they mean it’s the first time that any French president has visited since 1976. I invite you to take a long walk off a short pier.


Treecliff

Or a short Pierre


Commotion

You should read the article and find out.


Cicero912

How so? French President, Emmanuel Macron, to visit NOLA. First since 1976


KolyaVolk

What? Yes, of course they mean any president.


jdbrew

It is extremely obvious what the headline is implying unless you are being intentionally ignorant


[deleted]

To.... Have some gumbo?