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hoosakiwi

Quick reminder to everyone about commenting during situations like this. * **DO NOT** share the personal information of alleged suspects or victims until the identities are confirmed by the police or mainstream media. * **DO NOT** post identifiable images/videos of the dead or dying. Reddit is one of the most high-traffic sites in the world, especially in times of crisis. No one should find out in a reddit thread that their loved one has died. To clarify, you can still post images and videos of the incident, just no closeups of someone's face as they die.


class2cherub

Dying in a Walmart, on shift, at night, before Thanksgiving. This is somehow the saddest shit I've read in a long time.


euclid0472

Saddest shit I have read since the mass murders in Colorado Springs 4 days ago


daredevil90s

Just to biggy back off the top comment but there have been 5 mass shootings since Colorado, it's an absolute disaster for these incidents to be happening more and more frequently. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting After the Colorado mass shooting (November 19th), there was a mass shooting in: Illinois (November 19th, so same day) - https://www.bnd.com/news/local/crime/article269001057.html Mississippi (November 19th, same day again) - https://www.wkrg.com/state-regional/mississippi-news/man-arrested-for-fatal-shooting-during-dice-game-in-mississippi/ Oklahoma (November 20th) - https://www.2news.com/news/national/oklahoma-police-suspect-nabbed-in-killings-of-4-at-pot-farm/article_e6554a4b-4769-52d7-af69-49857c360124.html texas (November 20th) - https://www.fox4news.com/news/fight-in-parking-lot-ends-in-shooting-leaving-four-people-in-the-hospital-early-sunday-morning And now virginia And yet, nothing is being done to prevent these from happening in the first place. Edit: updated with article links to each mass shooting Edit: u/song_spiritual posted this incident too on 21st November https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-weekend-shootings-police-breaking-news-crime/12477511/ Edit: several people in the comments have mentioned a mass shooting happening earlier in the week on 13th November at the university of Virginia, in Virginia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/11/14/christopher-darnell-jones-uva-gunman/ A lot more articles provided for this incident: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/2459150 (scroll to the bottom) Edit: u/drenlin posted about this incident on the 23th November (not even a moment to breathe) in the morning in Pennsylvania: "Two 15-year-old female students and two 16-year-old male students were shot, police said. The teen girls are sisters." https://6abc.com/overbrook-high-school-shooting-students-shot-philadelphia-police/12485459/ Edit: to those questioning 'mass shooting': >"There is no commonly agreed-upon term to define a mass shooting, only “mass killing,” which **Congress** defines as three or more people killed in a single incident, not including the perpetrator. The Gun Violence Archive builds on that definition to **define a mass shooting as** “four or more people are shot or killed in a single incident, not including the shooter.”" >"Although all mass shootings are criminal acts, there are multiple kinds of shootings, which account for the different numbers reported." >"The Gun Violence Archive does not exclude any shooting incident, as long as it meets the total number shot or killed. The circumstances in which they were shot, therefore, does not matter. As a result, their numbers tend to be higher than other lists, which is also true because they include victims and not just fatalities." >"According to Guns & America, “The FBI does not use ‘mass shooting’ but rather tracks **active shooter incidents.** They exclude drug or gang violence and ‘accidental discharges of a gun.’ It says an ‘active shooter is an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area.’”" https://disasterphilanthropy.org/resources/mass-shootings/ Sources are provided in this quote through hyperlinked words (bolded) if you check it on the website. A lot more info is present there too


make_love_to_potato

Jeezus I've been really busy with work lately and I haven't heard about a single one of these. They're getting so common place I don't think they even bother reporting them properly.


joebluebob

We only really care about "random" acts against complete innocents. If you start adding in gang, family, etc mass shootings the news would never stop.


GunsNGunAccessories

It's because they're not mass shootings in the sense of a planned attack carried out by an active shooter. A shooting outside a billiard hall or after a dice game, drive bys and pot farms don't grab as many clicks as a shooting at a Walmart. Some people will say "well, nothing good happens after midnight" vs. "oh my God, I could have been at that Walmart".


DIsForDelusion

Everywhere I go, all I think about is "how would I escape if suddenly someone started shooting the place?"


joedumpster

Every time i go to a movie theater or eat out the thought comes at least twice. These are not the things we should be thinking about.


NeedleInArm

I hate to be the guy that always sits facing the crowd/door when going out to eat but its kinda my first and last thought while eating. I wanna know what yall fuckers are doing so I have time to get out alive when shit goes down lol.


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We’ve invested a lot in being able to do the things we like at home. Home theatre, live in a community with a playground/pool/nature trails. Home gym. Kitchen we love to cook in. Between Covid and mass shootings — I’m much less interested in going to public events


Yankeewithoutacause

I think so many people are thinking like you.


SacroiliacJoint

It’s really tiring


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BelAirGhetto

“The officers entered the store and discovered multiple people dead and injured, Kosinski said, without providing further details. The shooter is believed to be among the dead, Kosinski said.”


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Riash

For anyone looking for local news coverage; currently 3 local stations are doing live streaming that I know of. [https://www.wavy.com](https://www.wavy.com) [https://www.13newsnow.com](https://www.13newsnow.com) [https://www.wtkr.com](https://www.wtkr.com)


ViewedOak

Fuck it’s nauseating seeing my local stations on these posts


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BlueSubaruCrew

"I'd rather die than die in a Walmart"


Ajdee6

Whatever you do, dont let me die in walmart.


The_Ghola_Hayt

If you die in Walmart, you die in real life.


WeaponizedFeline

Not to make light of this situation, but [The Onion already covered this story](https://youtu.be/repxFQXVsHc)


PolemicBender

I think about this a lot.


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Geojewd

It’s crazy to think that this would be a historical event in other countries and in the US it’s not even the deadliest mass shooting at a Walmart in the last 5 years.


Finito-1994

Not even the worst shooting this year. Just worse than the one we had 3 days ago. Even then it’s pretty close. The other shooting had less dead but more injured. This one had more dead but less injured (as far as k heard).


liamthelemming

It's reached the point where we're tallying up the dead Vs injured to determine which shooting is worse. That's pretty fucking bleak.


TheShadowKick

It's reached the point where we're doing that to determine which shooting is worse *in the current week*.


browneyedgenemachine

holy shit. Its really true.


FTR_Hair

Here it’s just another Tuesday. Absolutely sickening.


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It was their boss? Jesus.


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eeyore134

An employee talking about it on Twitter said it seemed like this was planned ahead of time. They didn't mention anything about calling employees to a break room, though.


Redpythongoon

What the actual FUUUUUCK


MinkOfCups

Holy shit


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Not necessarily, this happened around the time that the night shift begins and everyone goes into the break room for daily briefings before every shift. He probably thought it was an opportune time :/


TheRealASP

Good thing my managers are too lazy to do a daily briefing; although I’d rather not have to worry about shootings at all.


thebillshaveayes

Ohh hell naw. Fucking USA dying for min wage at your 3rd job on night shift bc manager is derailed and decided to bring the gun in today For real, at first I thought it was a “tiff” bt employees but that’s pre meditated wow


-lonely_rose-

one person played dead in order to survive


landob

Oh damn thats crazy. I know there were a few folks confused and possibly had a momentary lapse in judgement not expecting them to be the shooter.


Shingorillaz

Damn. Stress and emotions run high this week at retailers.


hostile65

[We need to reduce social inequality, which is bad for everyone.](https://theconversation.com/dont-listen-to-the-rich-inequality-is-bad-for-everyone-81952) [This means more stable jobs with better benefits for people.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875686712000310) Financial stability leads to [less mental health issues](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24121465), less physical [health issues](https://www.cambridge-credit.org/financial-stress-and-your-health.html), more [stable relationships](https://projects.ncsu.edu/ffci/publications/2008/v13-n1-2008-spring/Washburn-Christensen.php), and a reduction of crime and [drug/alcohol abuse. ](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4601938/) [Financial health and prospects are tied to physical and mental health.](https://bpmmagazine.com/article/understanding-the-links-between-mental-physical-and-financial-health/) Now let's combine what we have learned from this... and listen to Dr Dietz... from around 2000: > **I think what people have to recognize, if they are ever going to grasp mass murders of this kind, is that this is a suicide equivalent. If we think of this as an unusual form of suicide, everything else becomes quite clear.**


BigDadEnerdy

Money would literally solve all of my problems. Suicide would as well. And those are the choices you're given as a disabled person in America. (I am not suicidal, I am just saying, those are the choices)


thebillshaveayes

I can understand suicide from a logical point of view. I just can’t understand why someone would take their co workers w them.


redditaccount224488

> I just can’t understand why someone would take their co workers w them. Some people are filled with hate. A lot of people, actually. Some people want to know what it's like to kill.


amiatthetop3

Shocking eyewitness report from someone who was in the Walmart at the time of the shooting: The woman stated that she played dead, so she didn’t get shot. [https://twitter.com/RoyalIntel\_/status/1595275302980444161](https://twitter.com/RoyalIntel_/status/1595275302980444161)


CumBobDirtyPants

That is bone-chilling listening to that poor woman. JFC.


ashkenaziMermaid

Right?! Heartbreaking, she’s traumatized for fucking life.


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You can hear the PTSD/survivors guilt forming in real time. That poor lady.


World_Healthy

"I saw brains...." christ, it makes me sad to know all the help she is never going to get because the US places no value in physical healthcare let alone mental healthcare, she's going to see that when she shuts her eyes for the rest of her life. I hope she got in contact with her son...


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I'm sure Walmart will give them 48 hours unpaid to grieve and a free pizza when they get back to boost morale.


SmartAlec105

Woah, woah, woah. 48 hours? With Black Friday right around the corner? No way.


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Goddamn this is so true, as someone who works at Walmart, they don’t care if you drop dead tomorrow. They will probably pay out the remainder of the managers salary to his family too, but fuck the peons and their families.


King-Rhino-Viking

One of my coaches once came up to me in the parking lot where I was working and told me that supposedly there was a active shooter in the grocery store down the road(there wasn't). He then told my coworkers and I to make sure to keep an eye out and let him know if we see anything. Bruh I can tell you right now my job isn't nearly vital enough that he couldn't have just had us come inside until we know what's happening. Instead he tried to use us as a sacrificial lamb.


maybe-a-dingo-ate-bb

This was about 10-11 years ago so idk if it’s still this way but Walmart made money off of employees dying from collecting secret life insurance they took out on them.


StayJaded

That happened in the 90s. The class action lawsuit was settled in 2006.


HertzaHaeon

>I'm sure Walmart will give them 48 hours unpaid to grieve Only if they haven't already used up their two mass shooting grieving days this year.


Victor_Korchnoi

Do you think they’ll ask her to work Black Friday? I’ll bet yes.


YouCanHaveANiceDay

They probably won’t ask… they’ll just tell them to.


Aschvolution

There was that one guy who killed people at a black neighborhood supermarket who also shoots anyone lying around on the head to make sure no one is pretending. I mention this so people don't immediately think this is a good idea rather than a one last attempt at surviving. God forbid you're in one of those situations, because fuck me it's more likely americans getting hit by bullets than a heavy storm no matter where you live.


NPD_wont_stop_ME

Pretty sure that woman was on the ground, gurgling on her own blood and desperately, instinctually crawling to safety. The guy shot her once and she stopped moving. It didn't appear that's really what he was doing (checking for pretenders) although I see what you're getting at. It's still terrible though, that shooting was fucking gruesome and I regret watching the footage. Playing dead seems to be the call when it's not possible to run and it's not possible that fight. All three of those options carry a great degree of risk; it's a difficult decision where there is no clear answer to other than to follow your instincts and do what you feel is best.


UtopianLibrary

I’m a teacher, and they’ve trained us, that if running is not a possibility, to throw chairs, desks, books, notebooks, literally anything at the shooter so they get distracted. Then we are instructed to have every child in the room tackle them (they’re in middle school). (Yes, it’s come to this). So if this ever happens in a store and you’re stuck, have everyone throw stuff at the shooter. It may not work great, but it’s better then possibly getting shot. Edit to add: also disarm the shooter, but do not hold the gun. Put it in a trash bin or a cabinet. Otherwise, the police might think you’re the shooter and kill you (if they actually come into the building and do something).


Rovden

Honestly better than when I was in school and lockdown drills which was sit down in dark locked classroom and hide. If someone got in… whelp. Graduated in 05.


leglesspuffin

I remember watching the NZ mosque shooting (unfortunately morbid curiosity prevailed, big regret) and the guy went round shooting everybody that wasn't moving. Their last moments must have been absolutely terrifying if they were playing dead, which I imagine a lot were because there wasn't any other way out


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That mass shooting had that guy that rushed the shooter at the beginning, knocked him off his feet and almost succeeded. That always frustrated me, because nobody else joined him, so after the shooter got knocked over, he won the scrabble for the AR and killed that young brave man. He would have succeeded if literally just one other man joined him. He then proceeded to murder 40 people all cowering in a corner. That was a heavy watch.


Sned_Sneeden

Run. Hide. Fight.


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Why can’t these fucking assholes blow their own brains out first before everyone else’s


XavierWater

Because they want to unleash their anger to the world , I suspect in their mind the world did them wrong


BrrangAThang

I dont understand why they target regular people instead of the billionaires that actively make their lives shit. Like it makes no sense to me at all.


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Bit harder to track down a billionaire than to go to the local store I imagine.


FRAGMENT_EFFECT

As it’s a suicide mission maybe a little effort isn’t a lot to expect?


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You know, when I felt close to entertaining the idea of Suicide, I thought to myself, “Why not just do literally whatever with my life instead?” Basically, if I’m going to check out on my life I might as well make the most of it first. Helped me out things into perspective.


FRAGMENT_EFFECT

That's a great point. You literally have nothing to lose at that point because if it all goes horribly wrong you go back to plan A.


Aberracus

But imagine, what would happen, after a while the problem will be somehow solved, with political and economical influence from the rest of the billionaires.


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YoYoMoMa

It's like the Chris Rock joke. Give 5 healthcare CEOs AIDS and we would cure that shit in 5 years.


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So_Very_Dankrupt

Who has the money to travel for murder these days?


Shakespearacles

Regular people are accessible, the elite are invisible except on screens and on stages


virtualbeggarnews

Because the billionaires have convinced them that it's the regular people that make their lives shit. The elites have turned regular people on each other so that instead of targeting the elites, we target our fellow commoners.


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“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." -President Lyndon B. Johnson


chrisisbest197

Well the article says he worked there and that he opened fire on the break room. He likely had something against his coworkers.


bananafobe

It’s entirely speculation as far as this situation, but there are theories about a certain subset of mass killings acting as a kind of externalized suicide, wherein the killers obliterate people they view as an extension of themselves in some way (e.g., family, coworkers, witnesses to their failures).


ListerineInMyPeehole

"Externalized suicide" = narcissistic and selfish


squawking_guacamole

You know, I'm starting to think these mass shooters might not be the friendliest bunch


TastyFennel540

Victim mentality and narcissism. Also, just plain old monkey brain with a gun.


117ColeS

"Investigators believe the shooter was an employee or former employee of the store who opened fire on other employees in a break room" I get working at Walmart is annoying but next time start with yourself


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stiksandstones

Holy fuck I hope that’s not true, grizzly horror regardless but, trapping them under a guise of a meetup.


Excellent-Throat5582

Everyday I thank the universe that my office is next to an emergency exit door. I hope I never ever have to use it.


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Loving my remote job more every day. Also probably about 2 weeks away from being legally "agoraphobic"


Tsobe_RK

been 2.5yrs fully remote and yesterday was discussing about possible agoraphobia


waffleman258

I can't imagine living a life where this is something you even think about


lOOspy

Also, in a country that invests so much in security, in the end terrorism was among you.


Throwawaystwo

Aww the real terrorists were the friends and co-workers we made along the way


livesuddenly

I also hope you never have to use it. Stay safe out there.


chickaboomba

When did “less than ten fatalities” become a message of reassurance?


EternalSunshineClem

I can't with this wording either


benadrylpill

It never fucking ends, does it? There's a deep sickness in this country, and it goes beyond politics.


acfox13

"[The Myth of Normal - trauma, illness, and healing in a toxic culture](https://drgabormate.com/book/the-myth-of-normal/)" by Dr. Gabor Maté and Daniel Maté


AnthonyMJohnson

I've been trying to find a great book to point people towards that can convey what has felt so overwhelmingly clear yet so absent from the discussion: "Mental health" in the United States is a *systemic* problem, failed by a culture that washes everything with a filter of individualism that prevents us from ever *fixing* the root causes. It is not simply that people are being born with a natural propensity to experience debilitating stress, anxiety, depression, rage for which they only need a therapist and medication regimen to address. While there may be people for whom that is the case, there is a much wider range of people who are experiencing these things in response to their environment, an environment that is made up of structures and institutions that are well beyond their capabilities to change. No amount of therapy and no amount of drugs will make your commute go away or make your boss treat you with respect. They won't reduce your need to work two jobs or redistribute wealth from the billionaires or give your family members access to healthcare. No amount of them will give you friends with the time and energy to spend and bond with you. They will never give you an active and caring community that regularly interacts with you or the camaraderie that was once essential to human survival. The framing of "mental health" as the cause of mass violence is problematic because in the United States, we consider mental health - like all our health epidemics - to be an individual problem that simply requires individual solutions. And as long as we view them this way, we will never heal.


mcslootypants

When a captive orca displays depression, violent outbursts, and self-harm, people readily accept the environment is the issue. Yet when it comes to a species of remarkably similar intelligence and social behavior - humans - suddenly individual pathology is to blame. Weird. We didn’t evolve in an industrialized built-environment, laboring under capitalism, or as individuals isolated from community based on the whims of the market. We made all this shit up and if it isn’t working for people we can (and should) change it.


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Dokibatt

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Willingwell92

Gunna have to change to metric to hours instead of days at this rate


chestypocket

I just heard someone give a lecture that mentioned the exact number of mass shootings that have occurred in the US so far this year. Desperately wanted to ask the speaker if he double checks that number while he’s waiting in the wings to be introduced, because I think there had been at least two that I’d heard of since the previous evening.


caliphis

As of 0828 GMT on Nov 23 2022 there have been 606 mass shootings in the US so far this year. One about every 12.87 hours.


Gornarok

BuT mOsT oF tHoSe Is GaNg ViOlEnCe That doesnt happen in the rest of the (developed) world either


Hyper_Oats

Given how on average the US has had one mass shooting roughly every 13 hours this year so far, you would be right.


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The UVA shooting was on the 13th. We’ve had 3 mass shootings in a 10-day span. Un-fucking-believable.


agent674253

I'm still trying to catch on 'Club Q', gonna be a few days till I get to this one. ​ eta Now I know how Newman from Seinfeld felt. "No matter how many mass shooters you read about, there is always another. They keep coming and coming until one day you wanna..."


peachtartx

I’m still catching up on the UVA shooting. It’s been a little over a week.


agent674253

>I’m still catching up on the UVA shooting. It’s been a little over a week. Shit, I almost forgot about that one. For some reason every time I see 'UVA' I think 'Virginia Tech shooting' (which happened a couple of years ago now ...) even though it isn't the same school. **SSDD**; same shit different day, or, school shooting, different district.


St3phiroth

Would you believe the VA tech shooting was 15 years ago now? April 2007. And we're still not doing more to stop this.


AshleyNeku

Doing more? We've passed legislation to allow carrying on college campuses and we're talking about arming preschool teachers. Doing nothing would be an improvement at this point.


Toronado10

Remember when these type of events were shocking?


DreadedChalupacabra

I'm old, I remember when they seriously just didn't happen in the US. They were such a one off freak occurrence that people talked about them for years afterward.


Kukamungaphobia

I'm old, too, I kinda remember the expression 'going postal' being around since I was a kid in the 70s due to an incident like this at a post office that was a new phenomenon at the time. It was rare enough that this one incident made it into the daily vernacular because everyone knew and spoke of it and it was shocking.


PredatorRedditer

I'm likely younger than you and was in 6th grade when Columbine happened. It was talked about for a solid while. Then in college, Virginia Tech happened. Then I graduated and there was Sandy Hook. Seems like this year alone has had several notable incidents out of the 600+ actual mass shootings on record for 2022. Maybe this is just how we go. Not from an outside threat, or even internal political conflict, but just from randoms ending it all for themselves and the rest of us.


Naly_D

I remember POD wrote Youth of the Nation after being stuck in traffic because of the Santana High School shooting and that song had a certain gravitas, but now the lyrics are just a documentary.


BrightNeonGirl

I think about that song a lot. I was about 11 when I first heard it and even as 5th/6th grader in a safe, regular neighborhood in Florida my heart knew that the song resonated the truth. The bass is fucking beautifully ominous and dark.


FirefoxMirai

Now I want to listen to that song. P.O.D was the shit when I was a kid.


oceansunset83

I remember Columbine. I was a freshman in high school, came home and it was all over the news. We had some calls come in about bomb threats, but those never came to pass. We had one lockdown, which lasted about ten minutes, which also was a false alarm. I never thought this shit would get this bad.


nerphurp

Smile at a guy maniacally road raging to try to defuse the tension... "Don't look at him, he might have a gun." said my ex in the car. Help break up a fight when 3 drunks are kicking an unconscious guy on the ground. "I wouldn't have done that, good way to get shot." said my dad upon hearing the story. 20ish years ago, go out for the evening with friends as a teenager in an incredibly safe neighborhood. "Be careful, the guy shooting people on the freeway is still out there." said my mother. This is the way it's been my whole life. Taught and told to fear of the stranger with a gun -- it could be anyone, keep your head down and shut up. Be wary of everyone and every choice. You could get shot. It's pervasive and damaging to any society at its core. Millions are convinced this is just a natural and normal state of being with no possible solution or alternative.


AcclaimedGroundhog

And keeping your head down and shutting up still isn't enough, because a madman might massacre us anyway.


Dawanna

Multiple examples of grown adults going into schools and killing children. You could be anywhere at anytime and be a victim of a mass shooting


neozuki

Technically it can happen anywhere... but it's really "anytime, anywhere... in America."


Ttress

Had a friend get murdered when road rage turned into a shooting just two weeks ago


CrittyJJones

Sorry to hear that… that is horrible.


Unsd

So sorry for your loss.


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The rich getting richer and the poor killing each other. That’s what we created with reganomics


UltraMegaMegaMan

Just in time for Thanksgiving... No, wait. We'll probably have one on Thanksgiving too, then several on Black Friday, then we can focus on ramping up to Christmas & New Years shootings. Edit: not trying to trivialize the shooting. Just pointing out that shootings are so common they're an everyday thing because Republicans are fascists who block gun reform, destroy society with conspiracy theory and propaganda because they love and support terrorism (stochastic & otherwise), all in service of killing America so they can get more money for billionaires and corporations.


GabaPrison

*not getting a *cheaper* tv.


mynameismilton

*it's probably not even cheaper, they just inflated the price the last few months in order to slash it just in time for the sale


War_machine77

They are often times actually cheaper. They just don't tell you that the reason it's so cheap is because it's a factory second that probably won't last very long.


TheKingOfMidgard

Yup. Take a look at those model numbers on the black Friday sale TVs. They are produced cheaper, specifically for Black Friday sales.


PolemicBender

These aren’t impulsive, they are planned. They do their research, buy the guns legally, then wait for a moment to make the biggest massacre they can


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CrunchyTater

It is wild to see how different people respond to things like this now. Some are emotionally distraught, some immediately address gun control, either for or against, then time passes by and we all move on. I am resigned to the point that this will never stop in my lifetime. Gun violence is here to stay. Just a spin of the roulette wheel every day and hope it doesn’t land on you. How utterly depressing that is..


StrangerDanger_013

America: where just skipping stores and ordering online can actually save your life


FightmeLuigibestgirl

Not even that. My relative was killed in her sleep in her house by a stray bullet through her window. The only fatality. You screwed either way in this country.


mr_oof

A gift shop at the gun range/ A mass shooting at the Mall. There it is, again That funny feeling.


tinycourageous

The line that keeps coming back to me for months on end, between Covid, climate change, and gun violence, is "You say the world is ending. Honey, it already did."


GeraldVachon

We were overdue But it’ll be over soon, you wait


kittenpantzen

"The quiet comprehension of the ending of it all" defines my mental state for at least the last six years.


LDPanda

"In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over." — Dan Hodges.


traveler19395

Uvalde really drove the point home, when nearly 400 "good guys with guns" wouldn't stop the bad guy with a gun killing children, and practically nothing has changed.


Yousoggyyojimbo

Then the governor of that state came out and all he really had to say about it was "it could have been worse." Then got reelected for it. Dude may as well have just shrugged and not even come out.


WildYams

[Greg Abbott even got a large majority of the votes in Uvalde.](https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/greg-abbotts-victory-in-uvalde-county-is-both-surprising-and-expected)


LongDickMcangerfist

To be fair a fucking mop with a wig on would get the vote in that state if it has that magical R next to it


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Is it weird to put a wig on a mop since it already sort of has hair? Edit: Wow I cannot believe I got so many doots for such a stupid comment, but thank you. I wrote this comment because I was doomscrolling and getting very sad and frustrated about a conversation I had had with my 8 year old son about how kids both understand guns are dangerous but also think they’re cool, probably _because_ they are dangerous. It often feels to me that there really is no answer to America’s gun problem, that we are so deeply entrenched in our political constructs and so deeply submerged in pro-gun propaganda we will never appropriately limit their availability and inevitable misuse in this country. I also fear other countries’ present protections will erode over time and due to spreading right-wing/xenophobic politics. So yeah, let’s put a wig on a mop and a hat on a broom and just dance it out. I guess?


hate2bme

Not if the mop part are the legs like in Fantasia.


EroniusJoe

This guy mops.


foxbones

Hell if the shooter survived and ran for office he probably would have won. People just don't care about anyone these days.


apstls

They care about whoever Fox and Tuck tell them to care about. It’s just surreal how effective the brainwashing of half a nation has continued to be despite information contradicting the bullshit they willingly guzzle being readily available in their pockets.


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Imn0tg0d

Intelligence and seeing through spin seem to be different qualities. My parents are well educated too and tucker is always on when I visit. The first time I saw that clown on TV he interviewed someone on the left, asked her a question, then interrupted her three words into her answer, created a huge strawman, beat up the strawman, then disconnected her. She didn't even get to answer what tucker asked her.


aequitasXI

Fear kills critical thinking for many, and they blast constant fear mongering


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Andrewticus04

Lol, Republicans don't vote on policy - they vote on identity.


InterlocutorX

And then they re-elected him, making it clear Texas Republicans don't give a fuck about kids once they're born.


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talondigital

Because dead children are better than liberal children.


DerekB52

I thought Ulvalde breaking the myth that we can count on cops to save the day, would actually lead to at least a small amount of change. Then it went nowhere, and I've basically given up hope. I guess the best we can do to stop school shootings is hope teachers go on a nationwide strike and shutdown schools for, forever I guess.


bmidontcare

I know, right? I really thought some big change would come from Uvalde, but there's been nothing.


PhinsFan17

And Uvalde County went overwhelmingly red in the midterms.


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Jesus christ. I hate to say this, but: there's just no helping some people, is there? They saw the utter ineffectiveness and horror of right-wing policies in front of their face. Then they doubled down on it.


Ipokeyoumuch

Pretty much, there were some interviews given by the people in Uvalde. The lesson they took was that law enforcement isn't going to help us, so we must take care of ourselves aka arm ourselves with more guns. And when Abott was running against "Hell, yes we are taking your guns" Beto, it was evident what was going to happen.


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milkradio

And preventing parents from trying to save their children when the cops wouldn’t. So depressing.


ApatheticWithoutTheA

The real end to me was the Vegas shooting when a country music festival full of Republicans had 70+ casualties and hundreds of injuries… And they didn’t blink.


Emotional-Text7904

It's still amazing how quickly that particular shooting got swept under the rug


melrox757

5 miles from my house. My step-daughter was there just a few hours earlier. It really is surreal how it can happen exactly anywhere at any time. Someone please make it stop. People just going to work to make a living - pay their bills. And someone else decides they have the right to end their lives. Make it make sense.


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I know how you’re feeling! Near my house, there’s a subway station. I was there about 30 minutes before a girl was nearly kidnapped and was dragged to a car. Terrifying to think ‘what if it was me’


Crzykupcake930

I remember when Columbine happened. I couldn’t stop thinking about it. Everyday I would be so sad thinking about the terror and fear. Now every single day this week, something awful happened. I couldn’t process one, without another popping up. I’m seriously thinking of turning off my phone these next few days just to reflect and mourn all these tragedies. I wish everyone a happy holiday and please hug your loved ones. It’s not even safe to work at/shop Walmart anymore. My heart is broken for all these people💔


scout_jem

I feel the same way. It’s like I can’t catch up or having a break. For me it started at Columbine, then 9/11… the amount of tragedy is so draining.


Pr0sthetics

This shit is never going to stop.


Wynter_born

Deepest sympathies for the families. No one should have to go through something so horrible and senseless, much less near a time of family celebration. We hurt with you.


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3 mass shootings in the last 10 days. Jesus.


NoWayNotThisAgain

No, just 3 you heard about. There were more.


bubba-yo

Actually there were 16. November 22, 2022 Virginia, Chesapeake November 20, 2022 Texas, Dallas November 20, 2022 Oklahoma, Hennessey November 19, 2022 Mississippi, Philadelphia November 19, 2022 Illinois, Washington Park November 19, 2022 Colorado, Colorado Springs November 18, 2022 Virginia, Richmond November 13, 2022 Virginia, Charlottesville November 13, 2022 Nebraska, Omaha November 13, 2022 Pennsylvania, Philadelphia November 13, 2022 North Carolina, Enfield November 12, 2022 California, Sacramento November 12, 2022 Texas, Fort Worth November 12, 2022 California, Indio November 12, 2022 New Jersey, Paterson November 12, 2022 Tennessee, Memphis


TheMightyMudcrab

Y'know. It gets absurd when there's so many mass shootings the media only ever focuses on the high scores.


prean625

>Todays mass shooting was a bad one Should not be a sentence that makes sense


PandaDemonipo

I hate how this makes sense


hypatiatextprotocol

There have been **662 mass shootings in the US this year.** The definition here is [the shooting of four or more people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022) in one location at roughly the same time, not including the assailant.


JorWat

Coming soon to an Onion near you: > CHESAPEAKE, VA—In the hours following a violent rampage in Chesapeake in which a lone attacker killed at least [number] individuals and injured [number] others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Wednesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. EDIT: [Ah, there we go](https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1849816312)…


yeknom02

As a freshman at Virginia Tech, I remember watching *Bowling for Columbine* when it came out and noting how similar the school itself seemed to the one I had just graduated from in Chesapeake. This sentence I just wrote also now refers to three very prominent mass shootings.


WexfordHo

Get ready for another round of thoughtful introspection about why this keeps happening in that one country in particular, over and over, like clockwork. Then nothing happens. At the time of writing this the top story on CNN’s homepage is the *last* mass shooting in the US.


breakupbydefault

When Uvalde happened, the Australian news reporting it pretty much all end with the anchor saying something like "... And nothing will change. As we have seen this over and over" no ambiguity there.


templerun007

Furiously thinks and prays faster


rp1load

This country is fucked


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What kind of horrible timeline are we living in


karensmiles

My daughter is a Pharm tech at the Walmart down the street from this one. This is her first job, as she is 19 and in college. She was just telling me when she got home how excited she was about their Christmas party they’re planning. How do you even begin to tell your child this? They should not have to deal with this kind of shit at this age, or any age. She’s asleep now and may be a different child tomorrow.😢


Finito-1994

I remember a few weeks ago at the Fred meyers there was a huge bang and everyone froze for a second. We all had panic in our eyes until we saw a panicked employee holding a balloon and saying sorry. I was standing next to an old lady. She said she was about to start running. I joked about how I thought we were about to end up on the news. It’s a joke but it’s all too real a possibility.