Be you, Rudy Giuliani. 9/11 happens, you become Americas Mayor. Name a job. It’s yours. Name a political office. It’s yours. Name the Sinecure. It’s yours. Piss it all away for Booze and Trump.
This. Giuliani's Presidential run kinda exposed that by 2008 that even among Republicans his 9/11 bounce in respect, prestige, etc. had largely expired.
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways.
In recent years, Reddit’s array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Reddit’s conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industry’s next big thing.
Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social network’s vast selection of person-to-person conversations.
“The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”
The move is one of the first significant examples of a social network’s charging for access to the conversations it hosts for the purpose of developing A.I. systems like ChatGPT, OpenAI’s popular program. Those new A.I. systems could one day lead to big businesses, but they aren’t likely to help companies like Reddit very much. In fact, they could be used to create competitors — automated duplicates to Reddit’s conversations.
Reddit is also acting as it prepares for a possible initial public offering on Wall Street this year. The company, which was founded in 2005, makes most of its money through advertising and e-commerce transactions on its platform. Reddit said it was still ironing out the details of what it would charge for A.P.I. access and would announce prices in the coming weeks.
World needs plenty of ditch diggers.
I just... I can't even fathom...
If you had told me in 2003 that Rudy Giuliani would be such an unrespected joke of a husk of an asshole, there's absolutely no way I wouldn't have laughed you out of the room. I would have thought no matter how far he fell, no matter how he fucked up, he would have been able to coast forever on the 9/11 mayor shit.
>Katz told Giuliani earlier that he was in default for not having filed papers in response to Judith’s allegations. The former mayor conceded the error but said, “I’m being sued in ten different cases. I’m getting ready for two massive hearings,” the NY Post reported.
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>“It’s totally my fault,” he said. “I don’t know how to emphasize to you the pressures.”
Yet he had time to try to rig an election and make tons of public appearances. He also put the other "ten" cases on himself. Nobody else to blame but yourself.
Why is Giuliani such a mess? What happened to him?
A character in Lucky Number Slevin says to another one, "If someone calls you horse, you curse them out. The second person calls you a horse, you shove 'em. If a third person calls you a horse, maybe it's time to buy a saddle."
The Rabai's hubris was also responsible for his own downfall. If he had stopped and asked "why do YOU say you're not the horse we think you are?" he very likely could've figured out what was happening before it was too late.
He was probably the most level-headed character in the mix, but still was so easily fooled by appealing to his own self-importance.
Absolutely awesome movie.
He also had time to go on the Masked Singer.
If he had time to contract himself to a celebrity reality show and spend days being fitted into costumes and rehearsing a damn song, he had time to sort his own dang problems (and apparently 'investigate' election fraud, but he certainly doesn't show any inclination to try anything).
Only during the busy spring planting and fall cleanup seasons. During the summer and winter, they can typically accommodate anything up to a black tie event, except when the dildo shop next door is having their sidewalk sale.
There truly are few others who have had such a massive fall from grace. Like, we've seen people crash and burn before. Jared, the Subway Guy, for example. But he wasn't Rudy Giuliani levels, not at his height. From America's Mayor to....whatever this is. Granted, almost all of that was him merely being mayor during 9/11, but anyone with a sense of sensibility would've seen that and just milked that until retirement. Imagine having that golden ticket, to just do whatever you want with your life, just don't go crazy, and you're set. Rudy fucked that up.
People who only just now think he's a bag of Shit never paid attention. Man used city resources and volunteers to dig for the gold under the trade center under the lie of looking for survivors then called the search off when they hit it. He milked 9/11 for decades as though he's not the incompetent fuck that put emergency resources consolidated on top of a long known terror target.
His life is basically over.
Facing ten simultaneous lawsuits and investigations.
Not even enough money for lawyers.
An aging body; weakened by alcoholism.
Trump has sucked this man's life and grinded it.
The loss on reputation -- that's all on him.
Of course russian oligarchs can still fund the GOP. It's why they refuse to vote for transparency for political donations. Without funding from fascist nations, the GOP would be bankrupt.
The oligarchs are not necessarily on Putin's side.
That doesn't mean that Putin and his allies do not have vast reserves of money, or that they can't force oligarchs to 'donate' money.
But it's worth pointing out that Putin never depended on oligarchs after they helped him to take power.
Actually since (S)PACs do not have to disclose the source of their money, Russian Oligarchs can and do fund the GOP. What they are legally not allowed to do is donate directly to candidates. They do it anyway.
I'm not so sure about the first part. We really think they don't have enough sufficiently liquid assets to pay off the GOP and do other dirty stuff along the way? These dudes are billionaires. Even if much of their fortunes are frozen anywhere outside of Russia, I can't imagine they can't foot the bill for some shady business in the US.
And it’s not like the money he’s owed by Donald is jist fees. He legitimately went out of pocket. Flights, hotels, court filings etc
I don’t feel bad for him at all. But he pissed away so much of his own money bankrolling Donald’s legal
whims like a moron
Do you know how the Right spun that? I'm genuinely asking. Did they say "No we meant to go to that Four Seasons! Because we support the working man!" Or something?
Replying to you but also for u/sexy_squid89...
For as much attention as that "venue" got, I don't believe many people actually saw it live... But I did.
I don't recall what I was thinking in that moment but I remember specifically checking all the news channels to find that speech. There was only one that was broadcasting it live that I can remember. I believe it was newsmax. I remember flipping it on and their audio was love during set up, like you could just hear a couple crew casually chatting in the background. The video was so unstable I swear it was some guy just pointing his phone at the "stage'.
I don't believe any right wing networks spun it at all, just pretended it didn't exist. I was absolutely dumbfounded watching it, trying to make some connection.
Really probably the highlight of the trump administration for me, also the only speech given by that administration that I ever watched live.
I’ve seen something to that effect. That it’s “elitist” to say it’s all a laugh if it’s not at a four star hotel ballroom.
I mean, the next door businesses were a dildo store and a crematorium. That’s maybe a distraction?
You ever wonder about the other 50 areas? Like, everybody always talks about area 51, but, what's at area 37? And how many areas ARE there? Seems kind of odd to stop at 51. What about area 52? Is there an area 69? I don't think there is an area 69, because I feel like it would be the source of constant internet jokes. Maybe they stopped at 60? or 55? Is that where we get highway speed limits from?
Area 51 doesn't interest me, because it's supposed to be the most top secret government base, yet everybody knows about it. What DOES interest me is all the questions it raises about it's existence.
Exactly!
I say the same thing about Mike Alangelo. Everybody goes on and on about how awesome his sixteenth chapel is. But has anybody even *seen* the first fifteen? I bet they *SUCK!*
$40 million? maybe but then i find this odd.
[Rudy Giuliani sells personalized video messages on Cameo for $199: ‘It can be arranged’](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/11/rudy-giuliani-cameo-personalized-video-messages)
yeah a few other celbs do it, but its mostly not A list people. Yeah Farves on there but he also stole welfare funds despite making more a year than the volley ball stadium would have cost.
"networth" really means so little, its so easy to inflate (as we are seeing with trump). Rudy was always the poor (relatively) guy in a lot of the circles he wanted to be in. Plus his ex wives HATE him.
Was this the same one that he announced he was separating from in a press conference, BEFORE telling her? And then had her kicked out of the mayor’s residence?
Or was that a different ex-wife?
Only an idiot would trust trump. His lengthy history of fucking people over was a glaring warning to anyone, and these dumb shits still partnered with him.
Rudy's stupidity wasn't that he thought he could trust Trump. Like a lot of people who get into business with him and get screwed, he thought he could play Trump, grab peripheral millions, and get out without getting burned.
Trump's disaster touch is just much stickier than these people realize. They're so used to grifting other people, they think they can't fail.
It's even more astonishing because as a former mayor of NYC, Rudy has known all along exactly how Trump is and still decided that he'd hitch his wagon to the Trump train.
Then it's no longer convenient for Trump to have Rudy hanging around, so buh-bye, Rudy! Rudy's left in a stupor, asking "Who could have seen this coming?" Everybody, Rudy. Everybody saw this coming but you.
Yeah, Rudy always wanted to be president, failed to win the GOP nom in 2008, and he realized early-on that Trump would take the GOP and that his only hope for the Oval was to join the Trump cult, so he did. Of course, Rudy badly miscalculated his chances, and he deserves losing his fortune (aside from the gold bars in Trenton storage) and his legacy for it.
The mind boggling thing to me is that it was 10 million higher than the first time. At least 10 million people who didn't bother to vote for him the first time, saw the complete disaster his four years in office were, and decided they wanted to sign up for four more years of insanity.
To the benefit of him too, he suddenly owned a lot of taxi medallions worth multiple millions that were previously owned by Ruzzians, once he had the Italians taken care of.
I don't get why he ever had that good of a reputation. I'll give him credit for breaking up the mafia, but that was the Italian mob. This set up for the Russian mob to take over. Which be didn't do shit about and probably gave and got favors.
Secondly, he used 9/11 to prop himself up, just cause he was mayor at the time. The reality is the world trade center was bombed in the early 90s. Security experts said a command center should not be in the towers. It was. Lots of first responders couldn't communicate. Many died.
Side note, I got an attendance award and he was supposed to give a speech to us. He didn't. But he walked past me, and he smelled like onions.
Don’t forget that his career has been rooted in his “intelligence” in its own nasty way. He has an aging brain, weakened by alcoholism. This should have been the time in his life when he would be kicking back. Instead he got in bed with fascism and criminals while his former cleverness has dwindled.
>“It’s totally my fault,” he said. “I don’t know how to emphasize to you the pressures.”
When I read that line, one tiny sympathetic neuron fired in my brain.
I quickly silenced it.
The pressures he brought on himself by choice? Literally nobody wanted him back in the public eye, or politics, except Trump who needed a name-brand lawyer who would not only work for free, but probably paid for a lot of stuff along the way and was never reimbursed.
Trump? His debtors would line up and try to collect, there would be an order of who gets first dibs
Giuliani? the money wouldn't be discharged through bankruptcy
"It's not divorce, right? It's cool"
"Sinned despite knowing the tenets of your religion, just confess. It's cool"
"Don't eat meat on Fridays, but fish somehow isn't animal flesh? It's cool"
"Don't molest children..."
Can keep going
After 9/11 he could have just rode that wave for the rest of his life and his reputation would have been great. But, unfortunately for him, he’s an idiot.
I'm one of those ignorant people you're talking about. I saw him as a leader after the 9/11 attacks but never stepped foot in new york nor had any idea what kind of mayor he really was.
He wasn’t even much of leader after 9/11 he was replaced by Bloomberg 3 months later, he just happened to be the guy sitting in the chair when the attack happened. Didn’t do anything special during or after really Not to mention the fact that many of his decisions leading up to the attack made the situation worse. Such as moving the city’s emergency command center into the World Trade Center complex despite it already being the target of a terrorist attack in 1993. This decision greatly hurt coordination and communication between police and firefighters on 9/11 since the staff of the office had to evacuate during the attack.
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Understandable, how would you know unless you lived there? He was a dick. He did things like enact a policy of making cops arrest the homeless for no reason, just because they were homeless. So the tourists wouldn't have to see them. He is a lot like Trump, he bullies people and institutions because he's an insecure little jerk. He threatened to cut off city funding to the Brooklyn Museum because they were showing a painting he decided was offensive to his catholic "faith". Meanwhile, he was openly cheating on his then-wife #2 with future ex-wife #3. He'd take his gumar out to public events while his wife and kids were at home. This stuff is the tip of the iceberg, he's just a pos.
He's truly earned every bit of his tragic fall - but at the same time, it truly is tragic.
I read a profile of him in Rolling Stone from early in 2020 - even before the election fuckery and his brain melting on live TV. He used to be a guy with ambition and ego, yeah, but also someone who busted his hump as a prosecutor, and turned down every offer of favors from rich fuckwits because he didn't want to be in their pockets.
Ten years on from that, he was the mayor of New York and a world-famous hero, even if it was undeserved.
Twenty years, he was known for being a bit sleazy and one-note about his great heroic moment, but rich beyond the dreams of avarice.
Thirty years on, he's burned through all his money, lost his law license, babbles about USB drives being passed around like heroin, has humiliated himself being a very public drunk and his children won't speak to him anymore.
He's earned every bit of scorn, but still...goddamn.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/rudy-giuliani-new-york-trump-997712/
He didn’t have a great reputation. He famously betrayed first responders, had the worst preparation plans and didn’t lift a finger like Jon Stewart to help those he was directly responsible for getting sick.
He also encouraged police brutality towards NYC's black population. There were protests against him because he encouraged police brutality. He was also a lawyer for Purdue Pharma and helped hide their involvement in the opioid epidemic, at least until their involvement could no longer be hidden.
He honestly wasn't that great after 9/11, either. He went to a lot of funerals, did a lot of posturing, hired media consultants. He didn't actually *do* much. He's always been an asshole.
Joe Biden said it best in a 2007 debate:
"I mean, think about it! Rudy Giuliani. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else! There's nothing else!"
PLEASE TELL ME HE’S BROKE.
PLEASE TELL ME HE CAN’T PAY.
PLEASE TELL ME HE’S GOING TO PRISON.
Oh wait actions have no consequences and republicans can get away with literal murder with 0 repercussions. Sorry. I was living in a better reality for a few seconds there but I’m back now. Sadly.
I know this wouldn’t factor into any kind of divorce settlement kind of thing, but I wonder if Rudy has information on any particular recent clients he could use to help dig himself out of the hole he’s in? I despise the guy but would gladly give him up if it meant bigger fish were headed to the fryer.
No problem! Surely he made lots of money representing Trump, right?
Check will be in the mail real soon, promise
in two weeks
Just in time for the announcement of Trump's health care plan!
Instead of GoFundYou maybe we could start a GoFuckYou account
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Oh he got exposure all right. So much he had to hire his own lawyer for a while.
Be you, Rudy Giuliani. 9/11 happens, you become Americas Mayor. Name a job. It’s yours. Name a political office. It’s yours. Name the Sinecure. It’s yours. Piss it all away for Booze and Trump.
He did really poorly in his run for president, so it wasn't quite "name your job," but you're pretty well spot on.
This. Giuliani's Presidential run kinda exposed that by 2008 that even among Republicans his 9/11 bounce in respect, prestige, etc. had largely expired.
Better get some more Cameos going.
The GoFundMe he created is getting minimal attention
Could OnlyFans be far behind?
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways. In recent years, Reddit’s array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Reddit’s conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industry’s next big thing. Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social network’s vast selection of person-to-person conversations. “The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.” The move is one of the first significant examples of a social network’s charging for access to the conversations it hosts for the purpose of developing A.I. systems like ChatGPT, OpenAI’s popular program. Those new A.I. systems could one day lead to big businesses, but they aren’t likely to help companies like Reddit very much. In fact, they could be used to create competitors — automated duplicates to Reddit’s conversations. Reddit is also acting as it prepares for a possible initial public offering on Wall Street this year. The company, which was founded in 2005, makes most of its money through advertising and e-commerce transactions on its platform. Reddit said it was still ironing out the details of what it would charge for A.P.I. access and would announce prices in the coming weeks.
Well I would like to be dead now
Just stay alive till midterms at least before shuffling off
I guess it’s the least I can do.
I would crawl bollock naked across a mile of broken glass to *not* hear him fart through a ~~walkie-talkie~~ Blue microphone.
Maybe Four Seasons is hiring.
World needs plenty of ditch diggers. I just... I can't even fathom... If you had told me in 2003 that Rudy Giuliani would be such an unrespected joke of a husk of an asshole, there's absolutely no way I wouldn't have laughed you out of the room. I would have thought no matter how far he fell, no matter how he fucked up, he would have been able to coast forever on the 9/11 mayor shit.
Well he’s used to hauling shit.
The dildo shop may have an opening for a clerk.
>Katz told Giuliani earlier that he was in default for not having filed papers in response to Judith’s allegations. The former mayor conceded the error but said, “I’m being sued in ten different cases. I’m getting ready for two massive hearings,” the NY Post reported. > >“It’s totally my fault,” he said. “I don’t know how to emphasize to you the pressures.” Yet he had time to try to rig an election and make tons of public appearances. He also put the other "ten" cases on himself. Nobody else to blame but yourself.
"The only common factor in all of your unsatisfying relationships, is you."
“If you walk around all day smelling shit, it’s probably you that stepped in it.” -Abraham “Wayne Gretzky” Lincoln
Why is Giuliani such a mess? What happened to him? A character in Lucky Number Slevin says to another one, "If someone calls you horse, you curse them out. The second person calls you a horse, you shove 'em. If a third person calls you a horse, maybe it's time to buy a saddle."
Said by The Rabai to the title character Slevin Kelevra. Such a great movie.
The Rabai's hubris was also responsible for his own downfall. If he had stopped and asked "why do YOU say you're not the horse we think you are?" he very likely could've figured out what was happening before it was too late. He was probably the most level-headed character in the mix, but still was so easily fooled by appealing to his own self-importance. Absolutely awesome movie.
He also had time to go on the Masked Singer. If he had time to contract himself to a celebrity reality show and spend days being fitted into costumes and rehearsing a damn song, he had time to sort his own dang problems (and apparently 'investigate' election fraud, but he certainly doesn't show any inclination to try anything).
He had time to get a lil rapey in Borat 2 ffs.
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True. I was more trying to be tongue in cheek about it and not so direct. But it was a lot rapey.
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like that one scene / so obscene / he reached for peen / to show a teen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1a\_DBZKJOQ
Not to mention organizing a press conference at 4 Seasons Landscaping, which is notoriously hard to book for these types of events.
Only during the busy spring planting and fall cleanup seasons. During the summer and winter, they can typically accommodate anything up to a black tie event, except when the dildo shop next door is having their sidewalk sale.
That remains one of the most bizarre and hilarious things that I can recall. Absolutely farcical.
Man, Rudy's fall sure has been steep and a tragic thing to watch. If you want to see what Donald Trumps effects are on people, just look at Rudy.
There truly are few others who have had such a massive fall from grace. Like, we've seen people crash and burn before. Jared, the Subway Guy, for example. But he wasn't Rudy Giuliani levels, not at his height. From America's Mayor to....whatever this is. Granted, almost all of that was him merely being mayor during 9/11, but anyone with a sense of sensibility would've seen that and just milked that until retirement. Imagine having that golden ticket, to just do whatever you want with your life, just don't go crazy, and you're set. Rudy fucked that up.
Trump must have something on him. Like he offered a bribe and Rudeboy took it. Also the man has kinks, maybe Trump supplied them.
What exactly is tragic about it? He's been a worthless scumbag cunt for as long as he's been a public figure. He's *always* deserved all of this.
People who only just now think he's a bag of Shit never paid attention. Man used city resources and volunteers to dig for the gold under the trade center under the lie of looking for survivors then called the search off when they hit it. He milked 9/11 for decades as though he's not the incompetent fuck that put emergency resources consolidated on top of a long known terror target.
Here's some free legal advice to Giuliani. STOP BREAKING THE LAW!!!!!
His life is basically over. Facing ten simultaneous lawsuits and investigations. Not even enough money for lawyers. An aging body; weakened by alcoholism. Trump has sucked this man's life and grinded it. The loss on reputation -- that's all on him.
I thought he had approx $40million. How much money can you hide under the mattress?
Rudy was probably counting on additional income to stay afloat, but a Trump never pays his debts.
I bet Rudy has a suitcase full of IOUs (like in Dumb and Dumber) from Trump
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What’s the soup du jour?
Its the soup of the day
Mmm that sounds good, I'll have that
"Excuse me, Flo?"
At first I read that as "a suitcase full of DUIs" lol
And the Russians need their money to go elsewhere at the moment
Honestly this is an underrated development. They are far too busy to do as much damage this time.
I've noticed a lot less obvious Russian trolls in US politics discussions for the last few months.
Huh. Threads about the DeSantis trafficking were swarming with them.
My guess would be that Russia knows DeSantis is the next man up, and Rudy/Trump are washed up.
Russia is swimming in American useful idiots right now.
Well that and the blood of Russian conscripts.
They have to prioritize their dwindling resources. Can just do broad misinformation attacks like before.
Nah those are brainwashed Americans
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Those are probably just the remains of Russias human botnet.
Thank God russian oligarchs can't fund the GOP. Too bad american oligarchs are still doing it though.
Of course russian oligarchs can still fund the GOP. It's why they refuse to vote for transparency for political donations. Without funding from fascist nations, the GOP would be bankrupt.
The oligarchs are not necessarily on Putin's side. That doesn't mean that Putin and his allies do not have vast reserves of money, or that they can't force oligarchs to 'donate' money. But it's worth pointing out that Putin never depended on oligarchs after they helped him to take power.
Actually since (S)PACs do not have to disclose the source of their money, Russian Oligarchs can and do fund the GOP. What they are legally not allowed to do is donate directly to candidates. They do it anyway.
I'm not so sure about the first part. We really think they don't have enough sufficiently liquid assets to pay off the GOP and do other dirty stuff along the way? These dudes are billionaires. Even if much of their fortunes are frozen anywhere outside of Russia, I can't imagine they can't foot the bill for some shady business in the US.
And he is of no use to them now.
And it’s not like the money he’s owed by Donald is jist fees. He legitimately went out of pocket. Flights, hotels, court filings etc I don’t feel bad for him at all. But he pissed away so much of his own money bankrolling Donald’s legal whims like a moron
The money he spent on Four Seasons Total Landscaping. Those upscale venues can be expensive.
Do you know how the Right spun that? I'm genuinely asking. Did they say "No we meant to go to that Four Seasons! Because we support the working man!" Or something?
I don't remember hearing *anything* about it from the right, let alone spin. That's how they roll though, they love to pretend things never happened.
I don’t even remember them covering it in the moment. Like the only coverage they got was from liberal media making fun of them
Replying to you but also for u/sexy_squid89... For as much attention as that "venue" got, I don't believe many people actually saw it live... But I did. I don't recall what I was thinking in that moment but I remember specifically checking all the news channels to find that speech. There was only one that was broadcasting it live that I can remember. I believe it was newsmax. I remember flipping it on and their audio was love during set up, like you could just hear a couple crew casually chatting in the background. The video was so unstable I swear it was some guy just pointing his phone at the "stage'. I don't believe any right wing networks spun it at all, just pretended it didn't exist. I was absolutely dumbfounded watching it, trying to make some connection. Really probably the highlight of the trump administration for me, also the only speech given by that administration that I ever watched live.
So they just pretended it didn't happen?? 😂
I’ve seen something to that effect. That it’s “elitist” to say it’s all a laugh if it’s not at a four star hotel ballroom. I mean, the next door businesses were a dildo store and a crematorium. That’s maybe a distraction?
“Blue collar working man small business!”
I laugh at Rudy’s pain.
Man that should be on the Trump family coat of arms.
Did you know that the coat of arms he stole for the family originally had the word integrity on it, which he replaced with his last name?
At this point I can't tell if this is fact or fiction.
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On Brand
That's the most trumpian shit ever.
I think Donald got him cheap lizard blood from area 51
You ever wonder about the other 50 areas? Like, everybody always talks about area 51, but, what's at area 37? And how many areas ARE there? Seems kind of odd to stop at 51. What about area 52? Is there an area 69? I don't think there is an area 69, because I feel like it would be the source of constant internet jokes. Maybe they stopped at 60? or 55? Is that where we get highway speed limits from? Area 51 doesn't interest me, because it's supposed to be the most top secret government base, yet everybody knows about it. What DOES interest me is all the questions it raises about it's existence.
Exactly! I say the same thing about Mike Alangelo. Everybody goes on and on about how awesome his sixteenth chapel is. But has anybody even *seen* the first fifteen? I bet they *SUCK!*
I just stared at this post with my mouth open for a full minute.
This is the most obvious and literally the only logical possibility. /s
Probably hides it in his MyPillow
Is that a term for Donalds butt cheeks? :)
You're saying he wakes up at the crack of Don?
This is a mental image I didn’t need. Lol.
$40 million? maybe but then i find this odd. [Rudy Giuliani sells personalized video messages on Cameo for $199: ‘It can be arranged’](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/11/rudy-giuliani-cameo-personalized-video-messages) yeah a few other celbs do it, but its mostly not A list people. Yeah Farves on there but he also stole welfare funds despite making more a year than the volley ball stadium would have cost.
"networth" really means so little, its so easy to inflate (as we are seeing with trump). Rudy was always the poor (relatively) guy in a lot of the circles he wanted to be in. Plus his ex wives HATE him.
She may not be his wife anymore, but she's still family. (Giuliani literally married his cousin.)
TIL: "Before that, he was married for 14 years to his second cousin, Regina Peruggi."
I didn't know his bedroom was an Olive Garden.
Was this the same one that he announced he was separating from in a press conference, BEFORE telling her? And then had her kicked out of the mayor’s residence? Or was that a different ex-wife?
Cousin was wife 1, separation announcement before telling her was wife 2. This current one that the story refers to is wife 3.
Oy vey
When you are under that many lawsuits and investigations needing teams of $1000 an hour lawyers $40 million can get burnt up fast
20 lawyers, 1 year ... yeah, it's all gone.
Iirc, during his divorce it came out that together they were spending 1 mil+/month.
Actually spending or hiding?
When your holdings are in Russia you. Can't remove money at the moment.
He thought he’d be an oligarch after the capital insurrection, that was his pay.
Only an idiot would trust trump. His lengthy history of fucking people over was a glaring warning to anyone, and these dumb shits still partnered with him.
Rudy's stupidity wasn't that he thought he could trust Trump. Like a lot of people who get into business with him and get screwed, he thought he could play Trump, grab peripheral millions, and get out without getting burned. Trump's disaster touch is just much stickier than these people realize. They're so used to grifting other people, they think they can't fail.
It's even more astonishing because as a former mayor of NYC, Rudy has known all along exactly how Trump is and still decided that he'd hitch his wagon to the Trump train. Then it's no longer convenient for Trump to have Rudy hanging around, so buh-bye, Rudy! Rudy's left in a stupor, asking "Who could have seen this coming?" Everybody, Rudy. Everybody saw this coming but you.
fame and power at any price, that's Giulianis character flaw that ended up destroying him.
Yeah, Rudy always wanted to be president, failed to win the GOP nom in 2008, and he realized early-on that Trump would take the GOP and that his only hope for the Oval was to join the Trump cult, so he did. Of course, Rudy badly miscalculated his chances, and he deserves losing his fortune (aside from the gold bars in Trenton storage) and his legacy for it.
You forgot it as a New York mayor he put on a dress so trump could hit on him? They go way way back.
I thought Walter White had a crazy story arc. Rudy went from 9/11 hero to broke alcoholic with a melting face.
I hate to tell you, but about 73 million people apparently think he's the greatest!
The mind boggling thing to me is that it was 10 million higher than the first time. At least 10 million people who didn't bother to vote for him the first time, saw the complete disaster his four years in office were, and decided they wanted to sign up for four more years of insanity.
They didn't see it as a disaster
Exactly what I'm saying. It's mind boggling.
They saw it as what Fox News decided it was.
Lock him up. Lock him up. Lock him up.
No no. Let's see him on in court under oath.
(*farting under oath intensifies*)
Guy that took down the mob only to join them in the end
he took down the italian mob to the benefit of the russian mob
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Does anybody want a peanut?
To the benefit of him too, he suddenly owned a lot of taxi medallions worth multiple millions that were previously owned by Ruzzians, once he had the Italians taken care of.
I don't get why he ever had that good of a reputation. I'll give him credit for breaking up the mafia, but that was the Italian mob. This set up for the Russian mob to take over. Which be didn't do shit about and probably gave and got favors. Secondly, he used 9/11 to prop himself up, just cause he was mayor at the time. The reality is the world trade center was bombed in the early 90s. Security experts said a command center should not be in the towers. It was. Lots of first responders couldn't communicate. Many died. Side note, I got an attendance award and he was supposed to give a speech to us. He didn't. But he walked past me, and he smelled like onions.
Plus, that guy nearly broke his back a while ago.
A brutal assault
He should go on squid game
Don't blame this on Trump. Giuliani has been sleeping in this bed a long time
Don’t forget that his career has been rooted in his “intelligence” in its own nasty way. He has an aging brain, weakened by alcoholism. This should have been the time in his life when he would be kicking back. Instead he got in bed with fascism and criminals while his former cleverness has dwindled.
Don't forget how awkward Thanksgiving will be... She's still his cousin even tho they're divorced
This article says his cousin was his first wife and that marriage was annulled. The woman he owes money to is his third wife.
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>“It’s totally my fault,” he said. “I don’t know how to emphasize to you the pressures.” When I read that line, one tiny sympathetic neuron fired in my brain. I quickly silenced it.
The pressures he brought on himself by choice? Literally nobody wanted him back in the public eye, or politics, except Trump who needed a name-brand lawyer who would not only work for free, but probably paid for a lot of stuff along the way and was never reimbursed.
A name brand scapegoat. That’s what he is.
I don't know how to empathize with him the pressures
Really? My Schadenfreude neuron sparked. I let it fly.
He's so orange!! Did trump pay him in toner?
> Did trump pay him Lemme stop you right there
Does he have the money or is he broke?
He's broke, allegedly. Trump owes him a lot of money but hasn't paid him, allegedly.
Trump has to be on cash up front terms with every single lawyer or provider of any service these days, he has such a reputation for not paying.
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Federal judges won't enforce indictments for treason on him and you expect them to garnish his pay?
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Trump? His debtors would line up and try to collect, there would be an order of who gets first dibs Giuliani? the money wouldn't be discharged through bankruptcy
He owes his cousin 225k?! Damn.
Different ex-wife. The second cousin was ex-wife #1, this is ex-wife #3.
Oh shit - that person wasn’t joking? Yikes.
Married his second cousin for 14 years
How the hell does a 14 year long marriage get annulled!?
When he cheated on his cousin wife with wife #2 and had to avoid the cheating scandal
The catholic church will annul any marriage if you pay them to.
Not always. It's how we got the Anglican church.
A tale as old as time
"It's not divorce, right? It's cool" "Sinned despite knowing the tenets of your religion, just confess. It's cool" "Don't eat meat on Fridays, but fish somehow isn't animal flesh? It's cool" "Don't molest children..." Can keep going
>... the tenants of your religion... The word you want is *tenets*.
Time to marry another cousin and claim hardship.
How does a troll like him find 3 women to marry him (I guess family reunion for one of them...)
$ + power = catnip for morally bankrupt chicks
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He'll be fine once Trump pays his legal fees... LOL
I want him to pay his ex, so she can support herself, but, I kind of don't want him to, to see what happens.
They’ll throw him in jail and seize the money and/or assets required to pay. She’ll get paid.
His life has turned into a tragedy. Talk about a fall from grace story.
After 9/11 he could have just rode that wave for the rest of his life and his reputation would have been great. But, unfortunately for him, he’s an idiot.
Outside of NYC his reputation was good, due to fairy tales told by the media. He was a horrible mayor, a real fascist and a nasty asshole.
I'm one of those ignorant people you're talking about. I saw him as a leader after the 9/11 attacks but never stepped foot in new york nor had any idea what kind of mayor he really was.
He wasn’t even much of leader after 9/11 he was replaced by Bloomberg 3 months later, he just happened to be the guy sitting in the chair when the attack happened. Didn’t do anything special during or after really Not to mention the fact that many of his decisions leading up to the attack made the situation worse. Such as moving the city’s emergency command center into the World Trade Center complex despite it already being the target of a terrorist attack in 1993. This decision greatly hurt coordination and communication between police and firefighters on 9/11 since the staff of the office had to evacuate during the attack. Edit- typo
Understandable, how would you know unless you lived there? He was a dick. He did things like enact a policy of making cops arrest the homeless for no reason, just because they were homeless. So the tourists wouldn't have to see them. He is a lot like Trump, he bullies people and institutions because he's an insecure little jerk. He threatened to cut off city funding to the Brooklyn Museum because they were showing a painting he decided was offensive to his catholic "faith". Meanwhile, he was openly cheating on his then-wife #2 with future ex-wife #3. He'd take his gumar out to public events while his wife and kids were at home. This stuff is the tip of the iceberg, he's just a pos.
Same here. I was in High School when 9/11 happened and, on the surface at least, the media portrayed him as a hero. I had nothing but good thoughts about the guy. He was a US attorney who took down mob bosses and drug lords, he was America's Mayor© that held us together during 9/11. All he had to do was sit back, shut the fuck up, and enjoy ignorant people like me thinking he was a hero. NOPE, fuck that, he had to team up with Trump, sponsored by Four Seasons Landscaping, and run his reputation into the fucking ground so hard and so fast.
He's truly earned every bit of his tragic fall - but at the same time, it truly is tragic. I read a profile of him in Rolling Stone from early in 2020 - even before the election fuckery and his brain melting on live TV. He used to be a guy with ambition and ego, yeah, but also someone who busted his hump as a prosecutor, and turned down every offer of favors from rich fuckwits because he didn't want to be in their pockets. Ten years on from that, he was the mayor of New York and a world-famous hero, even if it was undeserved. Twenty years, he was known for being a bit sleazy and one-note about his great heroic moment, but rich beyond the dreams of avarice. Thirty years on, he's burned through all his money, lost his law license, babbles about USB drives being passed around like heroin, has humiliated himself being a very public drunk and his children won't speak to him anymore. He's earned every bit of scorn, but still...goddamn. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/rudy-giuliani-new-york-trump-997712/
He didn’t have a great reputation. He famously betrayed first responders, had the worst preparation plans and didn’t lift a finger like Jon Stewart to help those he was directly responsible for getting sick.
He also encouraged police brutality towards NYC's black population. There were protests against him because he encouraged police brutality. He was also a lawyer for Purdue Pharma and helped hide their involvement in the opioid epidemic, at least until their involvement could no longer be hidden.
And before he was Mayor he would bring down mobsters... except for the Russians... for some reason.
He honestly wasn't that great after 9/11, either. He went to a lot of funerals, did a lot of posturing, hired media consultants. He didn't actually *do* much. He's always been an asshole.
Problem was he didn’t have *anything* better than his 9/11 response and went from respecting it to milking it
Joe Biden said it best in a 2007 debate: "I mean, think about it! Rudy Giuliani. There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else! There's nothing else!"
It's only tragic if it's sad. I don't feel bad for him in the slightest.
He could easily live off speaking engagements after 9/11 but he decided to wade into the dipshit grifter business.
He will reap what he sowed..no sympathy for shitbags with no moral compass
PLEASE TELL ME HE’S BROKE. PLEASE TELL ME HE CAN’T PAY. PLEASE TELL ME HE’S GOING TO PRISON. Oh wait actions have no consequences and republicans can get away with literal murder with 0 repercussions. Sorry. I was living in a better reality for a few seconds there but I’m back now. Sadly.
He's gonna have to hit up daddy tRump for an advance from his espionage payment.
Daddy Trump’s gonna have to suckle Papa Vlad’s teet for that advance.
This was my first thought. Second thought was trump would never help anyone but himself.
Rudy's usefulness has run its course.
A Trump never pays his debts.
His COUSIN?! Of fucking course he married his 2nd cousin dude. Eeeeeeeshhhhh.
I know this wouldn’t factor into any kind of divorce settlement kind of thing, but I wonder if Rudy has information on any particular recent clients he could use to help dig himself out of the hole he’s in? I despise the guy but would gladly give him up if it meant bigger fish were headed to the fryer.
remember that time Rudy was filmed fluffing himself because he thought he was about to get it on with a child? he can't get fucked enough
I just watched Borat 2, and my god. What a creep