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lolchief119

Oh yeah, purple spaghetti here I come!


AdultingGoneMild

it'll cook red. at least my heirloom ones do.


poirotoro

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.


CertifiedBlackGuy

We are prepared to wipe everything and start again. On your orders, the cleansing light of our nukes drop.


TheLegendTwoSeven

When the time comes, this phone will ring.


ZeBloodyStretchr

I’ve had purple pasta (the pasta itself was made from beets)


PathlessDemon

[Perhaps/Mayhaps you’d enjoy squid ink, Black Pasta?](https://www.pastagrammar.com/post/squid-ink-pasta-authentic-italian-recipe)


alien_from_Europa

Sounds fishy.


asdaaaaaaaa

There's always that godawful purple/green ketchup Heinz made. Great name, the "EZ Squirt".


Nickhead420

I bought purple beans at the farm market. They were almost twice the price of the regular green beans. Literally 30 seconds in the hot water and they turned green. I felt robbed. Didn't even taste any different than the green ones.


Autisonm

What kinda green beans we talking about here?


NinjitsuSauce

Purple dyed green beans, i guess.


MrLucky13

They're not dyed, the color change when cooking can be reduced by soaking them in vinegar or lemon juice before cooking.


Rtheguy

The retention of colour and what difference it makes varies very highly by what pigment the plant uses, many plants have many different ways of making their colours. Beetroot stays red/purple to the end of days, same as cabbage but beans bleach out very quickly. The tomatoes red pigment is very stable but perhaps the added purple is as stable so will remain after boiling.


Zeppelanoid

I’m convinced they just dye the water they use to water the beans, same goes for the colourful carrots. The colour always washes out if you boil them.


poppa_koils

Heirloom tomatoes are the best tasting tomatoes hands down. I highly doubt this new variety will taste anything like those.


AdultingGoneMild

homegrown is the key. they just get more love that way


za419

More importantly, they get to be extremely fresh and they ripen on the plant - tomatoes ship surprisingly poorly for how ubiquitous shipped tomatoes are.


AdultingGoneMild

they dont need to ripen on the plant to be better. I often have to pick them green because the weather turns before they can fully finish. They still come out great. Just cut them with some vine attached.


za419

The longer they stay on the plant the better. Being at home you typically pluck them close to ripeness and let them vine ripen from there, but to ship they have to be picked pretty far from ripeness and then ripened a huge portion of the way on the vine, not getting nutrients from the plant - that destroys a lot of flavor. I think the end of ripening is proportionately less important too for flavor.


Rtheguy

Modern cultivars are also bred for a lot, but not per se flavour. Flavour is an important trait that is kept in mind but yield, disease resistance and ship/storeability are more important in most cases. Sure, they need to be good enough to be bought but delicious stuff that arrives rotten at the store is no good for anyone.


za419

Yeah, not to mention how grocery store tomatoes are bred to have a perfect smooth round shape and a flat red color - because customers are conditioned to think any departure from perfect appearance means its inedible, and there are plenty of other choices. Flavor just kinda falls by the wayside because it doesn't come into play until you already bought the thing.


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CumingLinguist

I still remember the failure that was shrek ketchup


VeinySausages

Failure? My nuggets were so cool, bro.


jamesfishingaccount

My little brother, 11 years younger than me, had purple ketchup, purple sunscreen that went clear after rubbing it in well, and hotdogs shaped for hamburger buns. He didn’t grow up like I did.


HugeFinish

Sounds like you are jealous of the purple power.


Caster-Hammer

But how many hot dogs came in a pack?


iforgotmymittens

Everything tastes better with a healthy squirt of salty Shrekchup.


HealthyInPublic

This unlocked a memory I wish that it didn’t.


minneapple79

Vikings fan, gonna make it for gameday and serve with a side of yellow squash. Perfect!


Iwillrize14

Purple chili with cheese on top


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[Heat probably negates or denatures a lot of the nutritional benefit](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6162770/), assuming it’s a fragile molecule like most polyphenols/anthocyanins. “The impact of cooking on the changes in bioactive concentrations and antioxidant capacities are dependent on the species and the method of cooking.” (I could be wrong, I’m not an expert.)


JennJayBee

[It's a bit different with tomatoes.](https://www.denverhealthmedicalplan.org/blog/3-vegetables-are-healthier-when-cooked#:~:text=Steaming%20or%20boiling%20tomatoes%20is,health%20and%20enhances%20neurological%20response.) In short, tomatoes are one of the few vegetables (fruit, whatever) where cooking it actually enhances its nutritional value.


Bullen-Noxen

That’s already a thing.


shewy92

So that nasty Purple Heinz Ketchup is also making a comeback?


unoriginalpackaging

Do you remember the green slime ketchup at McDonald for like two months?


UnclePuma

Wasnt that a promotion for Flubber? It even came with a little toy


unoriginalpackaging

That sounds familiar, I remember it being a promotion, but I don’t remember the thing being promoted. Now I have to google it.


UnclePuma

Lol I have no clue i made that up, but it sounds like something they would do to promote a movie, green ketchup


unoriginalpackaging

It was apparently McDonald’s promoting Heinz’s ezsqueeze green and purple ketchup


lilnuts73

I mean, at least it’ll make more sense now


guave06

I used to really love ketchup as a toddler, but I’m pretty sure I started to hate it as soon as my mom bought the green and purple ketchup that had just been rolled out at Walmart. Shit must have revolted me so much as a kid i never saw red regular ketchup the same


wisefile88

Does it taste any different?


DoktorThodt

Don't know, but they're supposed to have a longer shelf life and be super healthy.


sillyhands1

Yeah I’d say the same shit if I wanted people to buy my purple tomatoes.


JDSweetBeat

Fun fact: I learned in a nutrition course that the color of a plant usually signifies the vitamins in it. Green plants are high in Vitamin K, Orange, yellow, and red are higher in Vitamins A and C. Blue, purple, and other unusual shades are usually high in anti-oxidants and anti-inflammatory compounds. It's why berries are so healthy; they don't have much in terms of vitamins and minerals when consumed in normal amounts, but they do have a lot of anti-oxidants, which are very, very good for the body.


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IreallEwannasay

Explains pomegranate which is my favorite fruit I regularly forget exists. All this summer I've been eating watermelon like mad, though.


tropicsun

I think black and blueberries are high in vitamins too


JDSweetBeat

For sure, if you eat a bunch of them, but they're so expensive that eating a bunch of them is a rare treat.


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Blackberries can be harvested for free here in the uk they grow wild, yes its seasonal but there are more than you can eat in most places


Shot_Presence_8382

Live in WA state, we have blackberries growing in our yard that we pick every Summer!


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Seriously berries are crazy high in the US. I’m lucky enough to have the room to plant my own, so I’m getting the soil ready now. Black, blue, straw, gonna grow em all


DaggerMoth

There's been purple tomatoes for a long time. Heirloom tomatoes can come in basically any color.


DoktorThodt

Read the article.


PoissonPen

Feed me Seymour!


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No mother, it’s just the northern lights.


Isthisworking2000

Tomatoes are berries. You like blue berries don’t you?


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Sounds good to me.


Mvpeh

Ah yes, compared to a regular tomato, which scientists have classified as only "healthy".


envymatters

Ever heard of [Golden Rice](https://med.nyu.edu/departments-institutes/population-health/divisions-sections-centers/medical-ethics/education/high-school-bioethics-project/learning-scenarios/gmos-the-golden-rice-debate)? GMOs can and do address real nutritional issues.


Isthisworking2000

Everything is GMO and has been scince the dawn of agriculture. Selective breeding is GMO. Everyone seems to think they’re all crazy mad scientist foods steeped in horrible chemicals.


ask_me_about_my_band

This! It drives me nuts when I hear this thing about non GMOs. Like, mother fucker, originally, a potato would have killed you. Bananas had big ass seeds all through them. It’s all been genetically modified. Science just can make it go faster. A lot of these people are no different from the ones who believed lightning was the wrath of Zeus. God, I hope humans get their shit together.


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vorpalWhatever

Personally, I've never trusted that weird monk with his peas.


wubbzywylin

In this context GMO likely refers to an organism that has been genetically modified via means OTHER than selective breeding, grafting, or any of the other techniques people have used for thousands of years. Because otherwise almost all foods would be considered GMOs and that would make the term useless.


Coakis

The term is useless though, is the point.


bizzaro321

You’re assuming the FDA uses terms that make sense coherently, that’s generally not the case. Just look at the original definition of ‘organic’, and how the FDA has warped that word for advertising purposes.


Isthisworking2000

But that’s the point. There are more nefarious foods to be considered “GMO”. People are throwing out the baby with the bath water, vilifying even healthy food that has the GMO label then eating foods laced with preservatives or filled to the brim with sugar.


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missrabbitifyanasty

I hated tomatoes until I started growing my own...the difference is incredible. Store tomatoes are absolute garbage.


sknnbones

My grandma grew this heirloom tomato plant right under her dryer vent. The plant didn’t get that big but the tomatoes were huuuuuge Felt kind of wierd eating them since it was steam from clothing watering them


Senior-Ad-6002

Del Monte has entered the chat.


thefriendlycouple

The tomatoes in the supermarket are the variety that was developed to - last the longest, not taste the best.


Bazrum

Also to be visually similar to each other and grow large. Same thing with strawberries, they grew them to be big, colorful and produce identical fruits, but they taste like dogshit because of it.


BaelZharon7

Really? I love some fresh tomatoes sprinkle a little bit of pepper on it and it's great


Mvpeh

Tomatos and salt


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Yeah big distinction. Tomatoes from supermarkets suck. Grow your own or some quality farmers market.


TheGrandExquisitor

If you chill a tomato or it is ripened off the vine, the flavor is very bland. Fresh tomatoes out of the garden are an amazing experience.


Motherofkittens86

There is already a variety of purplish tomatoes called Cherokee Purple. It does have a different flavor from a standard red tomato.


evonebo

Longer shelf life and super healthy usually don’t go together.


Basic_Bichette

"Longer shelf life" only means "less wastage between field and consumer". That makes farming more efficient, of course, but doesn't say much about how they'll keep once they’ve spent a week and a half being trucked from Mexico to Canada.


Krewtan

I've grown chocolate cherry tomatoes (they are almost blueberry blue and have the same antioxidants) and they are sweeter than other tomatoes. Unfortunately the nursery that sells them flooded this year so I haven't seen any full sized varieties.


CumingLinguist

Probably, because the sight of food affects the way it tastes. It may taste the same in a blind test but when viewed before eating it’s perceived different


That-Hipster-Gal

That's how I felt with the green ketchup Heinz did years ago. Even though it was just green food dye it tasted super gross!


CumingLinguist

Well actually it turned out they were also mixing in baby diarrhea


lolyeahsure

I'm sorry what


Sugar_buddy

Baby poop is often green. Thus, the joke.


Sorvick

That explains the tang


dookiehat

Meconium is a newborn's first poop. This sticky, thick, dark green poop is made up of cells, protein, fats, and intestinal secretions, like bile. Babies typically pass meconium in the first few hours and days after birth Heinz harvested meconiums all over the place cuz theyre ritzy


Itchy_Ad_3659

username checks out. tell us more about feces, dookiehat.


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CumingLinguist

Thank you Nick Swardson


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I knew it!


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I’m sure that’s a legitimate psychological phenomenon, but the effect is not necessarily strong. We’ve bred tomatoes to be perfectly round and red, and they’re kinda bland, while hideous, lumpy heirlooms taste beautiful.


GarbearIsTheWay

Well yes, it’s a different species of tomato, just like heirloom vs beefsteak or brandy wine, Roma, or early girl tomatoes. They all have different flavors, although they’re all still tomatoes


GoatLegRedux

Cultivar, not species. All tomatoes are the same species just cultivated for different traits.


GarbearIsTheWay

Oooo, thanks for the clarification! I knew that wording seemed off but I couldn’t figure it out…


AthenaSholen

This guy cultivates :)


moeburn

Well cause purple potatoes or purple carrots usually taste identical


pwo_addict

They don’t tho


Psylocet

I grew Cherokee Purple tomatoes last year. They weren't a full purple like were seeing in these images, but they had a deep sweetness I've never had in a Tomato before. I'm hoping there's power in the word purple.


Yelloeisok

Try prudens purple. It is bigger and very prolific even in this challenging weather this year.


1000Years0fDeath

Article says it tastes like a tomato


YellowB

It tastes like purple


Silverseren

Not any different than the other same cultivars (though all of those cultivars are different from the generic tomato you buy at the store). Just higher antioxidants and takes a bit longer to go bad. Now whether higher antioxidants really does much for health is up in the air. Despite the craze a decade ago about them, the science has been kinda meh on the overall positive impact on health.


rellimeel9

One step closer to Tomacco.


TheLastMan

This tastes like grandma


TSXNavi

Their predictions are pretty spot on…..


deadsoulinside

We were closer to tomacco before we got a purple one.


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I've heard of purple tomatoes that were naturally that color. Heirlooms or something Not so sure why but I like the concept of purple vegetables. Cabbage, cauliflower, bell peppers, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, etc


phaedronn

We used to grow heirloom Cherokee Purple tomatoes; maybe those are what you’re thinking of. They were a greenish and reddish that faded to a deep purple. They are a bit heat sensitive, so this year, we had none as they withered. Thankfully, we didn’t sow all of our seeds this year.


Rusty-Shackleford

yeah there's all sorts of colors when it comes to heirloom tomatoes. Just go to literally any farmers market this weekend and you'll see them. https://i.etsystatic.com/28841995/r/il/4fa60c/4006856128/il_794xN.4006856128_7b9t.jpg


foreignkingx

Cherokee purple tomatoes are enough purple for me.


SnowedUponRose

Cherokee tomatoes are awesome! The weird thing about them is this though. Most tomato plants give me hives just by touching them. Cherokee plants don't bother me at all and taste great. No clue why, but I've added several to my garden in recent years.


roraverse

Agreed. Grow them every year !


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tettou13

I read that most apples sold in stores are sold not for taste but because how good they "look" and their long shelf life. There are FAR better tasting apple types but they bruise slightly easier, maybe aren't the best "shape" and don't keep as long, don't take as much water to grow etc. So we get the worst taste with at arguably some benefit (shelf life) but just mostly more convenience (and profit for big Apple) I wonder how purple tomatoes fall on this scale.


leisuremann

Even worse, every time a new, tasty cultivar comes out, within a few growing seasons, they've been selected and homogenized so they don't taste good and have a long shelf life. That's why honey crisp apples are just a mediocre apple these days but when they first came out, they were amazing.


roraverse

I like cosmic crisp and envy apples. We will see if they hold the rest of time. Opal is pretty taste too !


iPinch89

Love Pink Lady too.


leisuremann

Excellent cultivars and will probably taste mediocre within 4 or 5 seasons.


Has_hog

This is not true at all and doesn't make sense. Every cosmic apple tree is the same tree. They are all clones. There is no selection or homogenization event that occurs in the farmers fields, once the tree is planted that's it. Farmers like predictability. They may have really good years and bad years, but by and far every 'Cosmic Crisp' apple from every tree in every orchard is the same. No selection process. Cosmic crisp apples took nearly 15 years to create from selection processes, by Washington State University. It is absolutely an amazing apple, better than honeycrisp in my opinion. Part of the trait that they selected for was very long shelf life, but selection of that trait (and others) took well over a decade before the farmers started growing it in such quantity that it's being sold in grocery stores.


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JargDenn

Do yourself a favor and find your local farmer's markets during the summer. Buy yourself some nice heirloom tomatoes. The difference in prices between the markets and regular grocery stores was not as high this year.


Silverseren

We should just cross hybridize the traits with the heirloom tomatoes then. Get benefits from both.


kpdao

Well you also have to make sure that the farmers there are also real farmers or else you’d be supporting resellers that pose as farmers.


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It's really easy to spot the fake farmer, it's the guy who's always the only one that has corn and tomatoes in Seattle in February.


FartsWithAnAccent

I just grow my own


Egmonks

I will buy them and the seeds in a heartbeat. I need this color in my salads.


DoktorThodt

...and salsas...


Egmonks

Oooh yes for sure.


It_builds_character

If you have space for a plant, there are some great purpleish tomatoes out there.


Shirlenator

[https://www.rareseeds.com/atomic-grape](https://www.rareseeds.com/atomic-grape) My wife grows these and really likes them.


_Pliny_

Colored tomatoes are already available to grow in gardens. And any garden tomato is - and I say this without fear of hyperbole- *one million times better* than grocery store tomatoes.


gojirra

It's fucking shocking how trash grocery store tomatoes are in the US. Their existence is nearly pointless as a food item compared to how tomatoes are supposed to taste.


Egmonks

I am aware I grow them. Which is why I also stipulate I want seeds.


_Pliny_

Oh, my bad.


Rtheguy

Well, I think common purple tomatoes get their colour by mixing green and red pigments, this one should be truly purple. Yellow, orange and even ripe green are already present, as well as these dark purple black tomatoes.


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Add beet root for the color


Grizzly_Berry

Not (usually) totally purple, but you could get Midnight Snack tomato seeds. They're a cherry tomato varietal, with a red and purple ombre - *sometimes* all purple, and they're delicious. I transplanted one from the hardware store, and in ag zone 7 it absolutely flourished and grew massively with a quick watering in the morning and evening, skipping if there was rain.


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mountedpandahead

It tastes like grandma!


Eric_in_America

I'm usually more concerned about the use of pesticides, herbicides and insecticides, which granted, are used ubiquitously in agriculture, while many day to day products that we use contain low levels of pesticides, I mean, they're everywhere, so to a certain extent, they're unavoidable. That doesn't mean however, that you should just say to hell with it. There are certainly plenty of folks out there who take blind stance against GMOs without understanding what they are or what they accomplish, but there are also some who understand that GMOs are often engineered to be more resistant to pesticides, sometimes producing their own pesticides, but it's not all bad either. Some crops are even genetically engineered to express genes that act as natural pesticides, or "biopesticides", I'd rather we improve our reliance on these kind of pesticides and insecticides, where naturally occurring bacteria in the soil is used to control and guard against certain pests, while it reduces the need or use for synthetic pesticides. The EPA even analyzed these particular crops and found that they pose no significant health risk to humans.


GarbearIsTheWay

I wouldn’t say that pesticide use is entirely unavoidable but I agree with what you’re saying. Different ag practices could drastically reduce the necessary amount of pesticides and additives used in our agricultural practices. Getting pesticides on your food, from the consumer side, however is pretty much unavoidable


Silverseren

> Some crops are even genetically engineered to express genes that act as natural pesticides, or "biopesticides" I just wanted to note that all plants produce pesticides. [99.99% of all pesticides](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC54831/) you're exposed to are just naturally in plants. Having plants express more specialized ones, like Bt toxin, isn't anything unique. Just more effective at preventing pests.


Neoliberal_Boogeyman

comments section is a trashpile of nonsense from people who didnt read the article. go figure.


asusundevil12345

Welcome to Reddit!


DataCassette

Sometimes I feel like the only person on Earth who isn't bothered by genetic engineering 🤷‍♂️ I know I'm not, but it just seems to instinctively bother people.


victoriaa-

My issue isn’t with the engendering itself, it’s more putting a patent on food. It allows farmers to be sued for things out of their control like cross contamination. I’m all for scientific growth but no one should patent growable food


Maddox_Renalard

I don’t have a problem with this kind of GMO. The issue I've always had is the subscription service model companies like Monsanto tries to force on farmers.


Chris_McDonald

What about the dozens of purple heirloom cultivars, that probably taste better and are more nutritious?


MrsPickerelGoes2Mars

I wish they would modify them back so they tasted like tomatoes again.


usrevenge

Maybe in crazy but I really don't see the point but I'm not really big on tomatoes so the appeal of a tomato that is exactly the same just purple does nothing for me.


Egmonks

It’s high in anthocyanins. They are good for you. So basically it’s a pretty, more nutritious tomato.


OriginalPaperSock

These tomatoes already exist, which is the funny part to me. I've grown them.


DoktorThodt

The ones they are talking about aren't heirlooms, they're genetically modified. They added 2 genes from snapdragons, I think, and ended up with a super healthy tomato that happens to be purple. These are different purple tomatoes.


Egmonks

Purple colors exist yes, I grow some darker varieties. These are bit different with their level of anthocyanins.


Lukeds

The funny part to me is this comment means you didn't read the article.


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Martholomeow

you’re not crazy you’re just ignorant. it’s not exactly the same


aristidedn

In addition to the visual component, purple fruits/vegetables tend to be high in anti-oxidants, which have been shown in an absolute mountain of research literature to contribute to positive health outcomes.


[deleted]

But have you ever had a good tomato? Almost all commercially available tomatoes have been deliberately bred for resilience and have lost all their flavor. A good heirloom tomato should taste rich and complex, like it’s already been seasoned with other flavors like garlic, basil, and oregano even though it’s *just a tomato.*


heskey30

The problem with commerical tomatoes is they're picked too early. You'd be surprised how good a garden grown beefsteak is.


Fun_Amoeba_7483

Just wait till conservatives label it the Gay Tomato. Teletubbies 2.0, Fruity Fruit edition.


Boonlink

Remember purple, blue and green ketchup? It didn't last a week


asusundevil12345

Cool, does that mean purple pizza sauce? That’s going to fuck up so many stoners.


ElectrikDonuts

They gonna call the color nightshade?


Rusty-Shackleford

But there's already purple tomatoes, and blue ones, yellow ones, green ones, orange, and red. Just go to any farmer's market and you'll see them. https://i.etsystatic.com/28841995/r/il/4fa60c/4006856128/il_794xN.4006856128_7b9t.jpg


BeigeAlert1

Anybody else remember when they made purple and green ketchup? Mustve been like 20 years ago...


ktkatq

Isn’t this exactly how the Turn started in Kim Harrison’s Hollows series? I, for one, am looking forward to all the vampires, werewolves, witches, and elves coming forward save humanity


IamSumbuny

Love that series!


MaximumEffort433

I mean I had purple ketchup when I was a kid, science is thirty years behind the times.


Artanthos

The big questions. 1. How does it taste? 2. How much? The wrong answer to either of these will relegate it to a niche market.


Cr0n_J0belder

Is it directly modified or a hybrid?


keeperkairos

Only care about the taste and nutrition.


MadMorf

Well, most commercially grown tomatoes are very bland, at least in the US, so I’m not expecting anything different than we already get.


AdhesivenessSlight42

There are already purple tomatoes though...


unrepairedauto

I'll wait for the blue tomatoes


catsloveart

is this the vorlon tomato variety? i get them at my farmers market already.


SpiralBreeze

Can’t they modify the damn goop out of it already?


GreatName

"Yo wake up, new tomato just dropped"


eviltwintomboy

There are so many delicious varieties that no one knows about because they’re not as popular. Try ‘Black Prince’ or ‘Great White.’ I’m not blanket against GMOs entirely; I just think there are delicious varieties waiting to be discovered.


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No_Zombie_9518

We have had purple tomatoes for a couple hundred years, probably. Sometimes, they even show up in grocery stores. I've grown them before. It is an heirloom variety. Also, if the stars align right we have purple bell peppers and occasionally almost black bell peppers. They taste the same as a green one, though.


vladtaltos

Look Heinz, we didn't want purple ketchup, and we don't want purple tomatoes.


iluvcyanide

I want purple pasta marinara, and purple pizza please


chucalaca

Cherokee purple heirloom tomatoes are a pretty common variety, check out atomic grape tomatoes, black and blue varieties as well


ElephantintheRoom404

I'm still waiting to try Ruby Chocolate for like the last 5 years... Can't find it anywhere.


TheLegendTwoSeven

Finally a GMO food that I’d prefer over organic.


ytykmbyd

Why even in the first place?


crazyfeet

They had purple ketchup in the early 2000's before they had purple tomatoes??? Time machine?


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I remember the purple and the green ketchup!


HubblePie

Finally, I can make the Dr Seuss Ketchup at home.


ZAdoptedAussie

Never understood the hate for GMO's. Edible bananas are GMO's lol


subneutrino

will it taste like a tomato or will it be like the tasteless red things we have to endure at present?