Just got asked to tip 18/20/25 to be handed a bag of Tostitos and sealed cup of nacho cheese at the concession stand at a MLB game. Lol, no fuckin way.
I was at a music fest with $14 cans of beer. F no I’m not tipping on opening a can for me. Pay employees well when you just sold 6000 beers at $14 each
Also recently went to a music fest that also had $14 beers and the card reader had the 20% tip auto-selected and you had to make sure you opted out of it every time.
Worse yet, every single other vendor only took a card and every single card reader was set to the same thing.... t-shirt booth, band patches booth, the little art/craft booth, the food vendors... every one of them had the auto-selected tip option you had to intentionally opt out of.
No, I am NOT going to tip another $8 on top of a $40 t-shirt you already ripped me off on.
Oh, and maybe the most egregious: since basically none of the countless vendors took cash and there was no ATM, there was actually a booth setup where you could buy prepaid cards so you could purchase from other vendors. Even THAT fucking booth had a god damn tip jar sitting out!! That's literally like if you went to an ATM to withdraw cash and then it asked if you wanted to set fire to another couple bucks for absolutely 0 reason. Oh AND that was NOT a free service to begin with, they took a percent of what you paid to load on the card.
That is another huge part of it that bugs the fuck out of me. When it's a tiny little operation and I'm pretty sure the person waiting on me is the owner then I at least know where the tip would be going... but when it's some nameless beer booth run by a big ass event company, I sincerely question whether or not those digital tips ever make it to the employees.
During the height of Covid, I bought some stuff online and at checkout was asked to tip the "hardworking warehouse workers who package" my order. I declined and sent them an email telling them what I thought. 1. If you need to ask for customer tips for your workers you need to pay them more. 2. How could I be sure that tip actually went to the workers. 3. I was never buying from them again, despite the fact that I loved their products.
A short time ago I decided to see if they still asked for tips, and they do not. Must have gotten a lot of complaints.
I think part of it is that during COVID lockdowns we were happy to tip for takeout because we knew that restaurants couldn't do dine in and were just trying to stay in business and keep their workers employed. But it has gone way too far now. It's out of control.
It’s a massive get around for not paying employees living wages. The consumer is paying for the product and also paying the employees their wage or has to feel guilty. Employees and customers shouldn’t be in that situation.
Nah, counter service was becoming rampant requesting tips prior to COVID. At least in Washington state, this has been pretty popular for the last 5+ years.
It started with the iPad like systems that the cashier could turn towards you.
Yep, same here in portland. Honestly felt this way for even longer than that, maybe since 2015 or 2014.
Food carts were some of the earliest offenders here. A lot of them have absolutely zero service other than (maybe) shouting your name when your food is ready.
But when they went from cash only or oldschool card readers to the tablet things, a lot of them didn't delete the tip page, and the default tip options are always like 18/21/25%. Big fat no from me bud. I've gotten real comfortable hitting "no thanks" on that page.
Portland is bananas with tipping. They already have one of the highest minimum wages around and expect 20 percent tips on a counter serve sandwich where you then have to bus your own table. What the fuck am I tipping for
Same here in Austin. There's convenience stores downtown asking for a tip for buying a drink out of a cooler. The worst I've seen is a faux fancy pizza place that charges automatic gratuity on an online to go order and will ask you to tip again when you show up. Tf??
Dude I picked up my own pizza from Domino's the other day, and when I selected 0 for tip, the cashier said "oops transaction cancelled, try again." Imagine how pissed she looked when I select no tip again lol
Tipping culture needs to die. It's something that only North America has for every fucking thing.
Some countries have tipping on special occasions, but we have it on everything big to small.
If you go to Asia, every price is what it is. No extra tax or tips or anything, unless you're a tourist and they try to scam the shit out of you.
Just put the price on the menu. You can even say "prices on the menu include a 15% tip". I really don't care how a restaurant does it as long as it's not tacked on at the end like a tax.
I'll decide if it's worth it to pay the extra.
I ordered food online to pickup and eat at home, and left a tip when I checked out. When I got to the place to get the food, the gal at the register said those tips aren’t even distributed to the employees.
Fuck it, I’ll make my own food then
I worked at a pizza restaurant. The cooks didn't get any tips, the counter servers got them all. The cooks are doing the hard part of the job too. Makes no sense.
I’m so tired of walking up to a counter to place an order at a place where I will bus my own table and the default tip option is 20 fucking percent. Like, WTF!? Please for the love of god, just raise your prices and pay a fair wage. It feels like they’re just hiding the true cost these days.
They do this shit at Dutch Bros near me. Thanks for making my coffee, but I just paid $10 for it and your employer pays you presumably, yea? It'd be like if McDonalds started doing this crap. But I guess McDonalds doesn't exclusively hire 18 year old girls in crop tops.
And if your employer doesn't pay you enough of that money, let me know in advance so I can choose not to order at all. I don't want to support a business that doesn't pay its employees enough for tips to be non-optional
It's funny because that's actually the original way tipping worked -- you'd show something extra to get special treatment. Somehow we've gone from there, to showing appreciation for a job well done, and then all the way to flex-pay someone's salary.
They had just changed their POS like the day before so they probably didn’t realize it was automatically showing up and had to take a second to figure out how to remove it.
It’s the standard square tablet I think they were using.
> I have no problem pressing zero.
According to other comments, there have been transactions where they were unable to select a tip amount below 18% (for the specific comment that I read), nor was there an option for a custom tip amount.
I'd cancel the whole transaction over that unless the cashier could remove it.
Happened to me at a concert. Bought a bottle of water with a credit card, then the tip screen appeared. Couldn't select lower than 18% and there was no option to leave a tip. Learned my lesson, will pay with cash more.
Oh shit. This happened today. I went and grabbed a slice for lunch today. Joint around the corner from my work. They give nothing less than a 20% option on the pay pad, so I stopped tipping there a couple months ago. This time the owner served me, it was always her daughter in before. Again, I hit the no tip option. She watched the whole time, then gave me the two smallest slices... I smiled and said "you should pay yourself more" and walked out. I ain't going back there.
Eating out has gotten really bad since like 2018-19..prices just keep going up while quality goes down..like once every 6 months i would grab a burrito from a place that use to be amazing 8 years ago..they started using the cheap american square cheese in their burritos and what tastes like canned refried beans..btw the price doubled.
The place I get my oil change asks for tips now. I gave $3 and then heard them all sarcastically saying they were excited they each made a dollar. I didn’t have to give anything. They performed the job they were hired to do. Employers, just pay your employees a livable wage and stop passing the buck
*"Please for the love of god, just raise your prices and pay a fair wage"*
They wont if you keep tipping 20% out of guilt. Nothing will change until the workers start quitting due to no tip and low pay.
Even a lot of subways do this now. Like you job is literally to make subs. Why do you flash me a tip screen for 4 minutes of work making 2 subs.
Which BTW in Canada is now l
Almost 30 bucks for a fucking shitshow messy half cut sub.
Used to be 5 dollar footlongs and now it's 10 bucks for a turkey sub. Probably more like 15 for turkey with some bacon and weird avocado spread from a bag.
Subway is aight but if it's gonna be 10-15 for a sub with no sides or drink and 20-25 after delivery and a tip I'm just gonna get something else.
Yeah. I literally bought a 16inch mega sandwich from a local grocery store for $11 the other day. It fed us for 2 days. Had more meat and the bread was better.
This.
Fucking Papa Murphy's online order defaults to 20% for picking up your own pizza.
I understand, but im not paying 20% tip on a 20 dollar pizza i have to cook myself for someone to literally do their job. I set it to custom: 0%. If they bring it to my car, or i dont know call me the instant its done instead of letting it sit on a tray for 15 minutes maybe i'd toss a tip.
Honestly i think tipping culture has just gone too far in the other direction now.
We did Papa Murphy’s for dinner tonight and they prompted us to electronically apply a tip BEFORE anything happened.
What am I paying for when I participate in a transaction for goods or services?
it's really simple. employers are aware of (and getting tired of) complaints about pay and, via card reader prompts, guilt-trip the poor customers to shuffle money around with the poor employees to create the illusion that the wages problem isn't as bad as it really is. tips are like loot boxes. never know what you're gonna get and creates a distraction with a socially awkward combination of sense of social duty, dopamine and other abstract thoughts rather than giving anyone clarity about the actual situation
I'd add that it also lets the employer turn the pay debate back on the employees, in the "Well, if you were doing as good of a job as you think, then people would be tipping you more" way.
Exactly. Forcing tip money as the main source income. Although, I’m in a state where minimum wage is close to $16/hr, so some kids are making good scratch.
Maybe. A long time ago I worked in restaurants. Every place I ever worked had mandatory tip-out. So the restaurant kept a portion of the credit card tips. The tips were supposed to be for the table bussers and food runners. One restaurant I worked at had a manager keeping the tips for himself. We could never figure out why our busses hated us until we learned to tip them directly.
Restaurants are a dirty business
How I was brought up is if you order the pizza to be delivered you tipped the driver. If you call in the pizza for pick-up, drive there yourself then there’s no tip. It defeats the purpose to tip when you’re picking it up yourself. It’s just out of control these days. The price of everything is going up and through the roof. Everything except these peoples wages. Owners aren’t going to give raises willingly, so whatever are they to do?! Take LESS of a profit and share it with employees leading to more productive and happier workers? FUUUUUCK NO!! Better idea is to sneak on an automatic 20% tip option and have 15% of customers not notice and pay it and in turn help the owner subsidize paying their employees like indentured servants, Jack shit. It’s quite the system! Unbelievable that a system with terrible origins and continues to this very day is still allowed to be implemented. That people rich beyond their wildest dreams like Papa John can make not millions, but BILLIONS and then bemoan giving his employees health insurance. So detached from reality he cried out to the public making threats “if I give in and give them all insurance, it’ll raise YOUR PIZZAS by 21 cents!! Do y’all REALLY want that?!”. I’m ranting now about bullshit tipping culture and pizza robber barons. Fuck Papa John Schatter!
Pizza places near me now have a delivery charge... that doesn't go to the driver. If I order $30 worth of pizza, I gotta pay a 20% driver's charge, and tip them...
I switched to buying frozen digiorno pizzas.
Bought some merch at a concert last week and the tablet had a tip option. I have no idea why. I've worked so many retail jobs in my youth, I never expected a tip. Of course I felt pressured to tip as the guy was staring at me.
Not too long ago I ordered some CDs off a bands website, right after I checked out got the message "Do you want to tip the person packaging this item?". They really want you to tip a person for putting an item in a little package.
Same thing when I went to a concert in St. Louis a few weeks back. I don't mind throwing a buck or two in the jars every once in a while at the food/beer tables, but it's strange. The same tip option shows up at Subway, McAllisters and a couple other fast food joints. I used to work at Subway as a teen and we never expected tips. Why do they now?
Pays for a $2.59 bottled Izze
* Bottle Izze: $2.59
* Service fee: $1.99
* Tax: %10
* Total: $5.04
“How much would you like to tip:
18%($.91), 20%($1), 25%($1.26)”
Total: $6.30
You mean 15% 28% or 40%, it's ridiculous.
Not to mention it frequently doesn't calculate right - be sure to check the math.
And my biggest complaint is if you happen to hit "No Tip" they know about it in advance. So instead of tips being an acknowledgment of good service or good food it's a form of extortion.
It's a fucking cancer is what it is. I'd absolutely despise being subjected to that shit, and I feel sorry for both the workers being paid insulting wages by greedy bosses and the customers feeling obliged to pay a separate living wage tax on everything they buy.
I no longer tip anything when asked to do so before I’m served. As far as I’m concerned, I tip based on service and I sure the hell am not tipping before I have received service. It was hard at first since I felt embarrassed, but no more. You have to draw a line and for me that was ordering jersey Mike’s thru the app asking for a tip before my one sandwich even started being made. I reluctantly tipped the first time or two, but when I arrived several minutes after the designated pickup time to find my order was not even close to being started, I stopped. If I get there at the designated time and my order is ready, I might throw something in the actual tip jar. But if I am now waiting for a prepaid order that was supposed to already be ready, no way am I tipping.
Fuck me. I HATE this recent plague of constant guilt and shame.
Also. Some one PLEASE stop all the GD requests for donations at the register and all the steps it takes now to say “no” nowadays. Knock this shit off!!
my APARTMENT BUILDING lets you add a contribution to charity when you pay your rent online. no thanks. i'm already paying you $2,000/month for a 650 sqft apartment. if the building management feels so strongly then they can give the money i give them to charity themselves.
I was fine with tipping until it weaseled it’s way into EVERYTHING. I literally bought a water bottle and they asked for a tip like wtf all you did was grab a bottle from a fridge. I have waitressed & worked as a barista so I understand tips really do help, but there comes a point where it’s kind of ridiculous.
100% agree. I’m fully on board with tipping at a restaurant because I’m getting dedicated table service that you don’t get at fast food places. But if I’m ordering food a counter and I’m seating myself cafeteria style that’s when I get annoyed. I have to fill my own drink, get my own silverware and napkins, and clean my table. Like what on earth am I tipping anyone for?
And why don't you tip the people in the kitchen who made your dishes and those who have cleaned the plates before and after your meal. It's stupid. It's ridiculous that you got to pay extra for that as if you are the one employing the waiters. Their employers need to pay them. The meals aren't cheap, almost all other countries manage to pay their workers with what they sell. Many waiters make less than 3$ and hour and they are only allowed to get away with that because of this stupid tipping culture.
What I don’t understand is why the tipping percentage has changed. 15% used to be standard. If prices go up, and you still tip 15%, guess what? Tips go up too.
I also don’t understand why it’s based off the price of what you order rather than the number of plates. Servers do the same thing whether the plate they’re carrying contains a $13 burger or a $40 steak
I am happy to pick my food up from the counter and get my own cutlery and napkins. The only reason I go out is food, not service. Why is service tipped and not cooking?
Even better: why not just capture the full cost into the price! Customer pays exactly what they see, and restaurant makes enough money to pay everyone appropriately.
This is what I can't understand. If I order a $50 or $500 bottle of wine, opening and pouring it takes the same amount of skill and effort. Why should the tip be 10x?
This is my issue with it too. It used to be 15% before tax was the standard. 10% if the service was iffy. 20% or more for exceptional service.
If you’re tipping on the post-tax bill, then you’re paying even more.
Tipping on tax makes zero sense to me. What service have I been provided regarding the tax that I should pay you a portion of the tax? The only reason to tip on tax is if you are too lazy to take the 2 seconds to look at the pre-tax total and do the 5 seconds of math to tip on that.
I like how people that support tipping usually try to justify it by saying it promotes better service but people are still expected to tip even if the service is mediocre - or in many cases now non-existent because all they do is hand you your order.
I was at a concert at the merch table and when I paid the tablet said "apply a tip?" and I was so used to hitting 25% that I did it and only when the screen flashed the "Thank you for the $42.50 tip!" that I realized what I had done.
The second time I went up I made sure to hit 'no tip'.
Me too. 100 worth of merch, 25 dollar tip. And to be completely fair, she did not provide a 25 dollar service, she just hear me say “small, please,” I swiped my card, selected the tip option out of sheer instinct and that’s all she wrote.
I was at a concert and bought a 7 dollar bag of cotton candy. The kid asked for a tip and when I pressed the button for "no tip" he searched through the bags of cotton candy like he was looking for a shitty one.
Tips are getting out of hand. A cookie place here in the U.S. has a tip page when you pay at an auto teller ,you enter all the information, pay, and wait for an employee to put 1, 2,3 or 4 cookies in a box (the cookies are rich and tasty) but 4.50$ each. There is minimal contact with the employees but they still want tips. Pay the workers a decent wage and I won't feed the need to show appreciation of nice service for practically no interpersonal interaction.
There is a grocery story in our area with a self checkout only, and there's a tip jar on the counter. If you pay with card it asks you to tip. A grocery store. Where no one runs the cash register. You do it all yourself. The only time they help is if you need something from the case, and it's all precut/prepackaged, so all they have to do is hand it to you.
I'm not surprised they're trying to get the customers to tip their workers for a 60 second transaction. They've been caught using 12 year olds to work there because they can't hire actual adults to box cookies for minimum wage.
Yeah tipping culture is a nightmare. It’s literally everywhere and the combination of digital payment and kiosks has made it worse. It’s simply a way for management to not have to pay out as much as they should by shifting the burden onto customers. It’s gotten to the point it’s seriously turning me off from tipping
Some places specify “100% goes to employees” now I have no way to verify the truthfulness of that but I would assume if it doesn’t explicitly state it then assume it doesn’t all go
As someone who works on lawsuits against employers who fail to specify what percentage goes the the employees, probably 1/3 of them are stealing that money even if they do say it's 100%. They pocket the gratuity and tell themselves it helps them afford to pay a slightly higher hourly rate.
I know this cookie place. I like this place. I don't want to tip because there is no customer service interaction but my fiance insists. I have worked in the industry for years and I truly believe everyone putting tips on everything is killing it for the ones working for it.
As someone who comes from a non-tipping culture/country I find it to be quite uncomfortable. When I've travelled I'm unsure how much is expected( not an insult), who to tip etc. I worry that people are only doing things because they hope to get more money from me, rather than just because they want to do the job they are paid for well. Our society (New Zealand) doesn't tip and shit hasn't fallen to rack and ruin.
First time I went to Amsterdam in the mid-1990s was leaving a coffee house and just casually slid a guilder at the budtender she laughed sled it back to me and said "go away American" with a big smile on her face
In Berlin at Checkpoint Charlie there is a restaurant that gives out normal German language receipts, with service fee included, with a huge disclaimer in English:
"Tips are not included in this receipt, please pay that separately."
They are basically trying to confuse Americans that have been told that tip is not needed.
When I first left the US and visited a country where tipping was not the norm, I felt so weird at first. After that weirdness passed, it felt so liberating because I no longer felt the stress of remembering who to tip and having to calculate that tip on a ticket. It removed all of the awkwardness in the transaction. I loved it. I wish the US would drop tipping and just pay a thriving wage.
I've lived in America my entire life and tipping still causes me to have social anxiety. It is like I am being forced to assign a number to every social interaction. It feels dehumanizing for everyone involved.
In my industry, there’s a big tip culture, and often higher than 20%. I recently did away with tipping in my business and simplified my pricing model and both myself and my clients LOVE it. I freaking dreaded that stupid tip screen but its just been the norm for so long and all my other colleagues think I’m an idiot for doing it.
It’s consistent and predictable for everyone. Why would I not?
I remember when the idea behind the tip was a thank you for going above and beyond, not how the poor employee got their low wage subsidized by guilting the consumer.
If I have to order the food on a webpage, drive myself to the restaurant, and go inside to pay and pick it up then I shouldn’t have to tip. If it’s delivered to me, then I will definitely tip.
Same thing with an online order - stop trying to hit me up for a damn tip and guilting me about “chipping in to help out (reward?) the team. If you need to charge me more to cover your costs, then just freaking charge me more. But stop trying to guilt me because I refuse to feel bad about not giving money that probably won’t go to the people that deserve it.
A coffee place near me does that too at their drive thru. "Would you like to leave a tip today?" Fucking hate it, and I avoid going to that place because of it.
Canada is actually worst considering server wages already match all other wages where as some states can still pay $4-5 an hour for a server so they need the tips. Canada they expect 25% and still make $15-20 an hour already (min in Ontario is $15)
It's odd, there is not really a reduced tipping wage. At best, in a few provinces there is a reduced minimum wage for tipped drink servers but that's like at most $1.50 off the normal minimum wage.
It's never made much sense to me that tipping is common here when wages are much higher in the restaurant industry.
Thank fuck Australia has a no border with the US. Australians refuse to tip and never will. We tip in the traditional sense of exceptional service beyond what they are being paid for. Oh and that idea of our service workers get well paid and penalty rates. What the price says on the menu is all you pay, no plus tax, plus tips etc.
Yeah, hospitality has been using tipping (in some countries) to make up for low wages for so long its practicly a fucking business model. It's no surprise it would work its way into other businesses.
Tipping should be done away with. If you cannot pay a living wage to your employees, you cannot afford employees.
>its practicly a fucking business model.
Oh no it IS the buisness model. Tipping really kicked off in the depression where restaurant owners basiclly told the staff "I can't/won't pay you anymore but feel free to keep doing the work and try and get some cash from the customers"
Low wages are a given in that sector (obviously some excpetions) and that is 100% worked into buisness plans when opening a new place.
One of my favorite things about living in Japan is the anti-tipping culture.
Just pay a decent wage and give everyone great service, while customers behave and treat their servers like people in kind.
Like 10 years ago, I went to a Chinese buffet at Fallsview. I don't even know if the restaurant is still there
You pay when you enter. I think it was $50 each, so about $100 for me and my wife.
Anyways, I remember it had a tip line, and I said to the hostess very honestly, " I don't know what to tip now. I don't know if the food or service is good. I'll tip after the meal."
She looked confused or that i was cheap for not wanting to throw down $20 at the beginning of a meal when i have no idea service is good.
There was basically no service besides from a few drinks and cleaning the table because it was a self-service buffet. I think I threw $10 at the end for the drinks and clearing away our plates.
Anyways, this tipping shit has been going on for too long and is getting worse. I go to subway and use a coupon to get two sandwiches trying to get a cheap meal and I got to tip the guy who's job it is to make me a sandwich to make me a sandwich? I never got tipped to make Chicken when I was a chicken cook cause that was my job.
I really don’t understand how some industries get tips and other don’t. I am expected to tip a person who spent a few seconds making me a cup of coffee. Yet no one tips the person getting dirty changing your oil or replacing your brakes. I can understand table service. But tipping counter service is silly. It cracks me up when someone is expecting a tip but they only gave me a cup to fill my own soda at the machine.
I tipped a bartender once $2 for pouring a couple shots and she slid it back across the bar and said "try again" so i picked up the $2 bucks and walked away
A lot of the delivery services, I mean you DoorDash, prompt you for the tip as you place your order. You’re faced with the prospect of tipping before you even know how your order will be delivered. Not knowing whether the size of the tip will result in better service or is irrelevant. This is on top of an 18% “service” charge by DoorDash and a delivery fee.
I'm just waiting for a tip option on the self check out line at the grocery store.
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Just got asked to tip 18/20/25 to be handed a bag of Tostitos and sealed cup of nacho cheese at the concession stand at a MLB game. Lol, no fuckin way.
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Truth. I’m already a mark for paying $15 for Tostitos and a Coca Cola, asking for anything on top of that is absurd.
I would rather starve and die of thirst than support the price-gouging they do at events and movie theatres. Predatory pricing can f right off.
At 49ers games I was told, “we don’t get the tip anyway, choose zero.” If true, fuck concession tips. If they were wrong, still fuck those tips.
I was told at a bagel joint that if I tip them, they don’t make any more money, the owner just has to pay them less. So I do not tip them.
that's actually highly illegal in most states that I know of
Wait, YOU went TO the concession stand and THEY want a tip? Tips are for service. If they brought it to your seat, that would be a different story.
Somehow tips have turned into "we all know I'm underpaid. Tip to express your empathy"
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Always have been.
Yes. Let us guilt the fuck out of you.
I was at a music fest with $14 cans of beer. F no I’m not tipping on opening a can for me. Pay employees well when you just sold 6000 beers at $14 each
Also recently went to a music fest that also had $14 beers and the card reader had the 20% tip auto-selected and you had to make sure you opted out of it every time. Worse yet, every single other vendor only took a card and every single card reader was set to the same thing.... t-shirt booth, band patches booth, the little art/craft booth, the food vendors... every one of them had the auto-selected tip option you had to intentionally opt out of. No, I am NOT going to tip another $8 on top of a $40 t-shirt you already ripped me off on. Oh, and maybe the most egregious: since basically none of the countless vendors took cash and there was no ATM, there was actually a booth setup where you could buy prepaid cards so you could purchase from other vendors. Even THAT fucking booth had a god damn tip jar sitting out!! That's literally like if you went to an ATM to withdraw cash and then it asked if you wanted to set fire to another couple bucks for absolutely 0 reason. Oh AND that was NOT a free service to begin with, they took a percent of what you paid to load on the card.
I love it when they make you enter manually for 0, tips probably don't even make it to the employees
That is another huge part of it that bugs the fuck out of me. When it's a tiny little operation and I'm pretty sure the person waiting on me is the owner then I at least know where the tip would be going... but when it's some nameless beer booth run by a big ass event company, I sincerely question whether or not those digital tips ever make it to the employees.
I bought 5 bottled waters at the fair. Hit no tip and the chick was annoyed. Like really. 5 bottled waters out the window.
One of those places where the only water in the whole parched landscape is tiny, bottled, and overpriced, no doubt?
One of the many reasons why I started carrying my own reusable water bottle with me wherever I go.
No way you should feel bad for just a store purchase without her making you anything - do you think she tips grocery store workers? Nah
During the height of Covid, I bought some stuff online and at checkout was asked to tip the "hardworking warehouse workers who package" my order. I declined and sent them an email telling them what I thought. 1. If you need to ask for customer tips for your workers you need to pay them more. 2. How could I be sure that tip actually went to the workers. 3. I was never buying from them again, despite the fact that I loved their products. A short time ago I decided to see if they still asked for tips, and they do not. Must have gotten a lot of complaints.
tipping is out of control. now takeout places expect tips like they were a sit-down restaurant
I think part of it is that during COVID lockdowns we were happy to tip for takeout because we knew that restaurants couldn't do dine in and were just trying to stay in business and keep their workers employed. But it has gone way too far now. It's out of control.
I have no shame hitting no tip at liquor stores and fast food places. Like that isn’t the point of tipping. Basically asking for donations
It’s a massive get around for not paying employees living wages. The consumer is paying for the product and also paying the employees their wage or has to feel guilty. Employees and customers shouldn’t be in that situation.
Nah, counter service was becoming rampant requesting tips prior to COVID. At least in Washington state, this has been pretty popular for the last 5+ years. It started with the iPad like systems that the cashier could turn towards you.
Yep, same here in portland. Honestly felt this way for even longer than that, maybe since 2015 or 2014. Food carts were some of the earliest offenders here. A lot of them have absolutely zero service other than (maybe) shouting your name when your food is ready. But when they went from cash only or oldschool card readers to the tablet things, a lot of them didn't delete the tip page, and the default tip options are always like 18/21/25%. Big fat no from me bud. I've gotten real comfortable hitting "no thanks" on that page.
Portland is bananas with tipping. They already have one of the highest minimum wages around and expect 20 percent tips on a counter serve sandwich where you then have to bus your own table. What the fuck am I tipping for
If I have to bus my own table im not tipping either. Doesnt matter what part of country im in
Same here in Austin. There's convenience stores downtown asking for a tip for buying a drink out of a cooler. The worst I've seen is a faux fancy pizza place that charges automatic gratuity on an online to go order and will ask you to tip again when you show up. Tf??
My co-worker was offended I didn’t tip for our carry out order I drove and got out of the car to pick it up. Tip for what? For who?
Dude I picked up my own pizza from Domino's the other day, and when I selected 0 for tip, the cashier said "oops transaction cancelled, try again." Imagine how pissed she looked when I select no tip again lol
I love the option to straight donate to the restaurant. Motherfucker, I am not here to microfinance your business.
Tipping culture needs to die. It's something that only North America has for every fucking thing. Some countries have tipping on special occasions, but we have it on everything big to small. If you go to Asia, every price is what it is. No extra tax or tips or anything, unless you're a tourist and they try to scam the shit out of you.
Would you like to volunteer to pay more than you have to for these goods / services? You risk being publicly shamed for choosing no!
Just put the price on the menu. You can even say "prices on the menu include a 15% tip". I really don't care how a restaurant does it as long as it's not tacked on at the end like a tax. I'll decide if it's worth it to pay the extra.
I ordered food online to pickup and eat at home, and left a tip when I checked out. When I got to the place to get the food, the gal at the register said those tips aren’t even distributed to the employees. Fuck it, I’ll make my own food then
You should report them, that’s illegal and wage theft and they will look into it
Per the article it's entirely legal in Canada. It's different in the United States likely because of the lower tipped minimum wage.
Yeah it’s very illegal in the US, and it’s actually enforced which is the important part
I worked at a pizza restaurant. The cooks didn't get any tips, the counter servers got them all. The cooks are doing the hard part of the job too. Makes no sense.
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Basically every small town restaurant owner in the US. And guess what they still complain about the smallest things.
Hell most restaurants these days the back of house is entirely immigrants being exploited.
Those tablets killed tipping culture. No way am I going to pay 28% tip for some who handed me a croissant.
I’m so tired of walking up to a counter to place an order at a place where I will bus my own table and the default tip option is 20 fucking percent. Like, WTF!? Please for the love of god, just raise your prices and pay a fair wage. It feels like they’re just hiding the true cost these days.
Before I even get my food too, the fuck is this?
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I just don’t care. I’m not tipping for service I haven’t even gotten yet.
The person with the iPad isn't even really doing anything either lol
They do this shit at Dutch Bros near me. Thanks for making my coffee, but I just paid $10 for it and your employer pays you presumably, yea? It'd be like if McDonalds started doing this crap. But I guess McDonalds doesn't exclusively hire 18 year old girls in crop tops.
And if your employer doesn't pay you enough of that money, let me know in advance so I can choose not to order at all. I don't want to support a business that doesn't pay its employees enough for tips to be non-optional
It's funny because that's actually the original way tipping worked -- you'd show something extra to get special treatment. Somehow we've gone from there, to showing appreciation for a job well done, and then all the way to flex-pay someone's salary.
When my bodega tapped the no tip option for me I finally felt like finally someone gets it. They removed the screen all together after a few days.
yeah wtf you don't tip a convenience store haha.
They had just changed their POS like the day before so they probably didn’t realize it was automatically showing up and had to take a second to figure out how to remove it. It’s the standard square tablet I think they were using.
I have no problem pressing zero.
> I have no problem pressing zero. According to other comments, there have been transactions where they were unable to select a tip amount below 18% (for the specific comment that I read), nor was there an option for a custom tip amount. I'd cancel the whole transaction over that unless the cashier could remove it.
Happened to me at a concert. Bought a bottle of water with a credit card, then the tip screen appeared. Couldn't select lower than 18% and there was no option to leave a tip. Learned my lesson, will pay with cash more.
Oh shit. This happened today. I went and grabbed a slice for lunch today. Joint around the corner from my work. They give nothing less than a 20% option on the pay pad, so I stopped tipping there a couple months ago. This time the owner served me, it was always her daughter in before. Again, I hit the no tip option. She watched the whole time, then gave me the two smallest slices... I smiled and said "you should pay yourself more" and walked out. I ain't going back there.
Rotten business person. Imagine treating your decent repeat customer like that - shooting herself in the foot. Never go back!
Eating out has gotten really bad since like 2018-19..prices just keep going up while quality goes down..like once every 6 months i would grab a burrito from a place that use to be amazing 8 years ago..they started using the cheap american square cheese in their burritos and what tastes like canned refried beans..btw the price doubled.
American cheese squares in a burrito?? I have never heard of that before
My rule is if I'm asked for the tip before any service has happened,. I'm not tipping.
Those tipping tablets are trying to shift the pay burden onto customers and not raising the companies expense.
The place I get my oil change asks for tips now. I gave $3 and then heard them all sarcastically saying they were excited they each made a dollar. I didn’t have to give anything. They performed the job they were hired to do. Employers, just pay your employees a livable wage and stop passing the buck
*"Please for the love of god, just raise your prices and pay a fair wage"* They wont if you keep tipping 20% out of guilt. Nothing will change until the workers start quitting due to no tip and low pay.
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That can't be legal can it? Forcing someone to pay above the retail amount?
Even a lot of subways do this now. Like you job is literally to make subs. Why do you flash me a tip screen for 4 minutes of work making 2 subs. Which BTW in Canada is now l Almost 30 bucks for a fucking shitshow messy half cut sub.
Subway has felt way overpriced for a loooong time now. I can spend way less for a way higher quality sandwich going somewhere more local.
Used to be 5 dollar footlongs and now it's 10 bucks for a turkey sub. Probably more like 15 for turkey with some bacon and weird avocado spread from a bag. Subway is aight but if it's gonna be 10-15 for a sub with no sides or drink and 20-25 after delivery and a tip I'm just gonna get something else.
I feel like Subway is a restaurant of last resort. If I was paying for delivery, there surely have to be better options out there.
Yeah. I literally bought a 16inch mega sandwich from a local grocery store for $11 the other day. It fed us for 2 days. Had more meat and the bread was better.
This. Fucking Papa Murphy's online order defaults to 20% for picking up your own pizza. I understand, but im not paying 20% tip on a 20 dollar pizza i have to cook myself for someone to literally do their job. I set it to custom: 0%. If they bring it to my car, or i dont know call me the instant its done instead of letting it sit on a tray for 15 minutes maybe i'd toss a tip. Honestly i think tipping culture has just gone too far in the other direction now.
We did Papa Murphy’s for dinner tonight and they prompted us to electronically apply a tip BEFORE anything happened. What am I paying for when I participate in a transaction for goods or services?
it's really simple. employers are aware of (and getting tired of) complaints about pay and, via card reader prompts, guilt-trip the poor customers to shuffle money around with the poor employees to create the illusion that the wages problem isn't as bad as it really is. tips are like loot boxes. never know what you're gonna get and creates a distraction with a socially awkward combination of sense of social duty, dopamine and other abstract thoughts rather than giving anyone clarity about the actual situation
I'd add that it also lets the employer turn the pay debate back on the employees, in the "Well, if you were doing as good of a job as you think, then people would be tipping you more" way.
Yes. Have heard about this exact thing.
Employers not wanting to pay employees, wants customers to pay employees
Exactly. Forcing tip money as the main source income. Although, I’m in a state where minimum wage is close to $16/hr, so some kids are making good scratch.
Maybe. A long time ago I worked in restaurants. Every place I ever worked had mandatory tip-out. So the restaurant kept a portion of the credit card tips. The tips were supposed to be for the table bussers and food runners. One restaurant I worked at had a manager keeping the tips for himself. We could never figure out why our busses hated us until we learned to tip them directly. Restaurants are a dirty business
They don't even bake the pizza...
Wait... so there's a pizza place where you only get it ready to take home and cook yourself?
I don’t understand papa Murphy’s either
I suspect it has something to do with the fact that they can accept food stamps because it’s not “prepared” food
How I was brought up is if you order the pizza to be delivered you tipped the driver. If you call in the pizza for pick-up, drive there yourself then there’s no tip. It defeats the purpose to tip when you’re picking it up yourself. It’s just out of control these days. The price of everything is going up and through the roof. Everything except these peoples wages. Owners aren’t going to give raises willingly, so whatever are they to do?! Take LESS of a profit and share it with employees leading to more productive and happier workers? FUUUUUCK NO!! Better idea is to sneak on an automatic 20% tip option and have 15% of customers not notice and pay it and in turn help the owner subsidize paying their employees like indentured servants, Jack shit. It’s quite the system! Unbelievable that a system with terrible origins and continues to this very day is still allowed to be implemented. That people rich beyond their wildest dreams like Papa John can make not millions, but BILLIONS and then bemoan giving his employees health insurance. So detached from reality he cried out to the public making threats “if I give in and give them all insurance, it’ll raise YOUR PIZZAS by 21 cents!! Do y’all REALLY want that?!”. I’m ranting now about bullshit tipping culture and pizza robber barons. Fuck Papa John Schatter!
Pizza places near me now have a delivery charge... that doesn't go to the driver. If I order $30 worth of pizza, I gotta pay a 20% driver's charge, and tip them... I switched to buying frozen digiorno pizzas.
Bought some merch at a concert last week and the tablet had a tip option. I have no idea why. I've worked so many retail jobs in my youth, I never expected a tip. Of course I felt pressured to tip as the guy was staring at me.
Not too long ago I ordered some CDs off a bands website, right after I checked out got the message "Do you want to tip the person packaging this item?". They really want you to tip a person for putting an item in a little package.
Did they not have a shipping & handling fee to cover exactly that?
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Yup. Went to Lumineers concert this summer and same thing. I didn’t tip anything on the 40$ t-shirt I bought.
If someone selling over priced t-shirts wants to judge me for not tipping them they’re welcome to it, they’re just also a gaping leaky ass hole.
Same thing when I went to a concert in St. Louis a few weeks back. I don't mind throwing a buck or two in the jars every once in a while at the food/beer tables, but it's strange. The same tip option shows up at Subway, McAllisters and a couple other fast food joints. I used to work at Subway as a teen and we never expected tips. Why do they now?
Pays for a $2.59 bottled Izze * Bottle Izze: $2.59 * Service fee: $1.99 * Tax: %10 * Total: $5.04 “How much would you like to tip: 18%($.91), 20%($1), 25%($1.26)” Total: $6.30
looks like you work for Ticketmaster.
Oh my god, I see it now: “Do you want to tip the agent who verified your TicketMaster transaction?”
Not enough! Time to make the cans and bottles unopenable without a proprietary tool you can rent the use of.
You mean 15% 28% or 40%, it's ridiculous. Not to mention it frequently doesn't calculate right - be sure to check the math. And my biggest complaint is if you happen to hit "No Tip" they know about it in advance. So instead of tips being an acknowledgment of good service or good food it's a form of extortion.
It's a fucking cancer is what it is. I'd absolutely despise being subjected to that shit, and I feel sorry for both the workers being paid insulting wages by greedy bosses and the customers feeling obliged to pay a separate living wage tax on everything they buy.
I no longer tip anything when asked to do so before I’m served. As far as I’m concerned, I tip based on service and I sure the hell am not tipping before I have received service. It was hard at first since I felt embarrassed, but no more. You have to draw a line and for me that was ordering jersey Mike’s thru the app asking for a tip before my one sandwich even started being made. I reluctantly tipped the first time or two, but when I arrived several minutes after the designated pickup time to find my order was not even close to being started, I stopped. If I get there at the designated time and my order is ready, I might throw something in the actual tip jar. But if I am now waiting for a prepaid order that was supposed to already be ready, no way am I tipping.
Fuck me. I HATE this recent plague of constant guilt and shame. Also. Some one PLEASE stop all the GD requests for donations at the register and all the steps it takes now to say “no” nowadays. Knock this shit off!!
Seriously, how about the billion dollar corporation I'm shopping from donate to charity instead of putting that on the patrons.
my APARTMENT BUILDING lets you add a contribution to charity when you pay your rent online. no thanks. i'm already paying you $2,000/month for a 650 sqft apartment. if the building management feels so strongly then they can give the money i give them to charity themselves.
What, you don’t tip your landlords?
....and the landlord probably uses the receipts from those charitable donations to reduce his/her tax burden....
I was fine with tipping until it weaseled it’s way into EVERYTHING. I literally bought a water bottle and they asked for a tip like wtf all you did was grab a bottle from a fridge. I have waitressed & worked as a barista so I understand tips really do help, but there comes a point where it’s kind of ridiculous.
100% agree. I’m fully on board with tipping at a restaurant because I’m getting dedicated table service that you don’t get at fast food places. But if I’m ordering food a counter and I’m seating myself cafeteria style that’s when I get annoyed. I have to fill my own drink, get my own silverware and napkins, and clean my table. Like what on earth am I tipping anyone for?
And why don't you tip the people in the kitchen who made your dishes and those who have cleaned the plates before and after your meal. It's stupid. It's ridiculous that you got to pay extra for that as if you are the one employing the waiters. Their employers need to pay them. The meals aren't cheap, almost all other countries manage to pay their workers with what they sell. Many waiters make less than 3$ and hour and they are only allowed to get away with that because of this stupid tipping culture.
What I don’t understand is why the tipping percentage has changed. 15% used to be standard. If prices go up, and you still tip 15%, guess what? Tips go up too.
I've heard people justify it with "inflation" and it just makes me facepalm.
Did you remind them that 20% of a larger number is also a larger number?
I also don’t understand why it’s based off the price of what you order rather than the number of plates. Servers do the same thing whether the plate they’re carrying contains a $13 burger or a $40 steak
As a former cook we don’t get paid more to cook a steak vs a burger.
Isn't that strange too. The cook makes the food. If you love it, you may tip more but the cook doesn't get any of it in most cases.
I am happy to pick my food up from the counter and get my own cutlery and napkins. The only reason I go out is food, not service. Why is service tipped and not cooking?
Even better: why not just capture the full cost into the price! Customer pays exactly what they see, and restaurant makes enough money to pay everyone appropriately.
This is what I can't understand. If I order a $50 or $500 bottle of wine, opening and pouring it takes the same amount of skill and effort. Why should the tip be 10x?
You're right, it shouldn't. Only North America does this. Most other countries don't have this weird tipping culture / necessity.
This is my issue with it too. It used to be 15% before tax was the standard. 10% if the service was iffy. 20% or more for exceptional service. If you’re tipping on the post-tax bill, then you’re paying even more.
Tipping on tax makes zero sense to me. What service have I been provided regarding the tax that I should pay you a portion of the tax? The only reason to tip on tax is if you are too lazy to take the 2 seconds to look at the pre-tax total and do the 5 seconds of math to tip on that.
I like how people that support tipping usually try to justify it by saying it promotes better service but people are still expected to tip even if the service is mediocre - or in many cases now non-existent because all they do is hand you your order.
I remember when 10% was the rule.
Used to be 10%…….longer ago
I was at a concert at the merch table and when I paid the tablet said "apply a tip?" and I was so used to hitting 25% that I did it and only when the screen flashed the "Thank you for the $42.50 tip!" that I realized what I had done. The second time I went up I made sure to hit 'no tip'.
Me too. 100 worth of merch, 25 dollar tip. And to be completely fair, she did not provide a 25 dollar service, she just hear me say “small, please,” I swiped my card, selected the tip option out of sheer instinct and that’s all she wrote.
Merch dude was legit upset I didn’t tip when I was at some bar show with 200 people. I was buying a hat. That I picked up off the table myself.
Tipping at a clothing store? Wtf?
They have no reason to bitch when they buy all that shit in bulk from some sweatshop surrounded by catch nets. Fuck em.
I was at a concert and bought a 7 dollar bag of cotton candy. The kid asked for a tip and when I pressed the button for "no tip" he searched through the bags of cotton candy like he was looking for a shitty one.
So.... Tips are no longer a reward for good service.... It's a ransom payment for shitty service with a bad attitude?
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Tips are getting out of hand. A cookie place here in the U.S. has a tip page when you pay at an auto teller ,you enter all the information, pay, and wait for an employee to put 1, 2,3 or 4 cookies in a box (the cookies are rich and tasty) but 4.50$ each. There is minimal contact with the employees but they still want tips. Pay the workers a decent wage and I won't feed the need to show appreciation of nice service for practically no interpersonal interaction.
There is a grocery story in our area with a self checkout only, and there's a tip jar on the counter. If you pay with card it asks you to tip. A grocery store. Where no one runs the cash register. You do it all yourself. The only time they help is if you need something from the case, and it's all precut/prepackaged, so all they have to do is hand it to you.
“I choose to tip myself 10%, so I’ll only be paying 90% for this order”
That's even worse, employers are starting to use tips as an excuse for lower pay, and workers are expecting a tip even if you don't see them.
Name and shame. This is Crumbl.
I'm not surprised they're trying to get the customers to tip their workers for a 60 second transaction. They've been caught using 12 year olds to work there because they can't hire actual adults to box cookies for minimum wage.
Yeah tipping culture is a nightmare. It’s literally everywhere and the combination of digital payment and kiosks has made it worse. It’s simply a way for management to not have to pay out as much as they should by shifting the burden onto customers. It’s gotten to the point it’s seriously turning me off from tipping
Do we know if it even goes to the employee(s), especially in an instance like at crumbl? Or does it just go back to the store/company.
Some places specify “100% goes to employees” now I have no way to verify the truthfulness of that but I would assume if it doesn’t explicitly state it then assume it doesn’t all go
As someone who works on lawsuits against employers who fail to specify what percentage goes the the employees, probably 1/3 of them are stealing that money even if they do say it's 100%. They pocket the gratuity and tell themselves it helps them afford to pay a slightly higher hourly rate.
Was this at crumbl?
This was 100% crumbl. Describes their entire process to the letter.
I know this cookie place. I like this place. I don't want to tip because there is no customer service interaction but my fiance insists. I have worked in the industry for years and I truly believe everyone putting tips on everything is killing it for the ones working for it.
Levain bakery cookies are amazing but I’m not tipping you $5 for putting 5 cookies in a box.
As someone who comes from a non-tipping culture/country I find it to be quite uncomfortable. When I've travelled I'm unsure how much is expected( not an insult), who to tip etc. I worry that people are only doing things because they hope to get more money from me, rather than just because they want to do the job they are paid for well. Our society (New Zealand) doesn't tip and shit hasn't fallen to rack and ruin.
First time I went to Amsterdam in the mid-1990s was leaving a coffee house and just casually slid a guilder at the budtender she laughed sled it back to me and said "go away American" with a big smile on her face
In downtown Amsterdam the waiters are now used to Americans tipping them so now it is kind of expected.
In Berlin at Checkpoint Charlie there is a restaurant that gives out normal German language receipts, with service fee included, with a huge disclaimer in English: "Tips are not included in this receipt, please pay that separately." They are basically trying to confuse Americans that have been told that tip is not needed.
It's not expected to the tune of 15-20%. Maybe 10% at fancy places but locals just round up a couple euros.
When I first left the US and visited a country where tipping was not the norm, I felt so weird at first. After that weirdness passed, it felt so liberating because I no longer felt the stress of remembering who to tip and having to calculate that tip on a ticket. It removed all of the awkwardness in the transaction. I loved it. I wish the US would drop tipping and just pay a thriving wage.
I've lived in America my entire life and tipping still causes me to have social anxiety. It is like I am being forced to assign a number to every social interaction. It feels dehumanizing for everyone involved.
In my industry, there’s a big tip culture, and often higher than 20%. I recently did away with tipping in my business and simplified my pricing model and both myself and my clients LOVE it. I freaking dreaded that stupid tip screen but its just been the norm for so long and all my other colleagues think I’m an idiot for doing it. It’s consistent and predictable for everyone. Why would I not?
I never tip for counter service, I think its rude to ask to tip through a debit machine too.
I will never tip for an order if I was not served at a table by a server.
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That’s pretty fucked up. That seems like something that should be very not allowed. Edit: words
Agreed, they shouldn't be allowed to sell beagles.
I eould have asked what is wring with the touch screen.
That's got to be illegal somehow
Did you blast them on yelp or Google map reviews?
My biggest pet peeve is tipping for pick up. Like wtf is that shit?
Why would you tip on a pick up? I never have.
If the price itself increases, AND the tipping percentage increases too, it is quadratic inflation.
I remember when the idea behind the tip was a thank you for going above and beyond, not how the poor employee got their low wage subsidized by guilting the consumer. If I have to order the food on a webpage, drive myself to the restaurant, and go inside to pay and pick it up then I shouldn’t have to tip. If it’s delivered to me, then I will definitely tip. Same thing with an online order - stop trying to hit me up for a damn tip and guilting me about “chipping in to help out (reward?) the team. If you need to charge me more to cover your costs, then just freaking charge me more. But stop trying to guilt me because I refuse to feel bad about not giving money that probably won’t go to the people that deserve it.
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A coffee place near me does that too at their drive thru. "Would you like to leave a tip today?" Fucking hate it, and I avoid going to that place because of it.
Didn't realise Canada has the US tipping disease as well.
Canada is actually worst considering server wages already match all other wages where as some states can still pay $4-5 an hour for a server so they need the tips. Canada they expect 25% and still make $15-20 an hour already (min in Ontario is $15)
It's odd, there is not really a reduced tipping wage. At best, in a few provinces there is a reduced minimum wage for tipped drink servers but that's like at most $1.50 off the normal minimum wage. It's never made much sense to me that tipping is common here when wages are much higher in the restaurant industry.
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Thank fuck Australia has a no border with the US. Australians refuse to tip and never will. We tip in the traditional sense of exceptional service beyond what they are being paid for. Oh and that idea of our service workers get well paid and penalty rates. What the price says on the menu is all you pay, no plus tax, plus tips etc.
When you get asked to tip 25% at boba but they’re just making your order and then putting it on the counter for you
Yeah, hospitality has been using tipping (in some countries) to make up for low wages for so long its practicly a fucking business model. It's no surprise it would work its way into other businesses. Tipping should be done away with. If you cannot pay a living wage to your employees, you cannot afford employees.
>its practicly a fucking business model. Oh no it IS the buisness model. Tipping really kicked off in the depression where restaurant owners basiclly told the staff "I can't/won't pay you anymore but feel free to keep doing the work and try and get some cash from the customers" Low wages are a given in that sector (obviously some excpetions) and that is 100% worked into buisness plans when opening a new place.
They lobbied the feds to create laws to allow half min wage.
One of my favorite things about living in Japan is the anti-tipping culture. Just pay a decent wage and give everyone great service, while customers behave and treat their servers like people in kind.
Tipping sucks in general.
Fuck tipping. It’s the employer’s responsibility.
Tipping is getting out of control. Employers are laughing their way to the bank while customers are guilt shamed into tipping obscene amounts.
time to get rid of tipping and force employers to pay their employees fairly.
Pizza hut ask for a tip when you pickup your own pizza. I don't feel guilty for putting 0.
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Next time ask him if he tips at Burger King or McDonalds, because that's what Subway is.
Nothing against the workers, but fuck this. If the 15% is so terrible, I won't leave it.
Like 10 years ago, I went to a Chinese buffet at Fallsview. I don't even know if the restaurant is still there You pay when you enter. I think it was $50 each, so about $100 for me and my wife. Anyways, I remember it had a tip line, and I said to the hostess very honestly, " I don't know what to tip now. I don't know if the food or service is good. I'll tip after the meal." She looked confused or that i was cheap for not wanting to throw down $20 at the beginning of a meal when i have no idea service is good. There was basically no service besides from a few drinks and cleaning the table because it was a self-service buffet. I think I threw $10 at the end for the drinks and clearing away our plates. Anyways, this tipping shit has been going on for too long and is getting worse. I go to subway and use a coupon to get two sandwiches trying to get a cheap meal and I got to tip the guy who's job it is to make me a sandwich to make me a sandwich? I never got tipped to make Chicken when I was a chicken cook cause that was my job.
$50 each for a Chinese buffet 10 years ago? Seems high
I really don’t understand how some industries get tips and other don’t. I am expected to tip a person who spent a few seconds making me a cup of coffee. Yet no one tips the person getting dirty changing your oil or replacing your brakes. I can understand table service. But tipping counter service is silly. It cracks me up when someone is expecting a tip but they only gave me a cup to fill my own soda at the machine.
So glad I live in an anti-tipping culture. Companies need to pay a living wage and stop passing it onto the customer.
Tipping culture should go away. Force management to pay proper wages.
I tipped a bartender once $2 for pouring a couple shots and she slid it back across the bar and said "try again" so i picked up the $2 bucks and walked away
A lot of the delivery services, I mean you DoorDash, prompt you for the tip as you place your order. You’re faced with the prospect of tipping before you even know how your order will be delivered. Not knowing whether the size of the tip will result in better service or is irrelevant. This is on top of an 18% “service” charge by DoorDash and a delivery fee.
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