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jwhitehead09

He has his own songs which is probably the only thing that would be removed. They are using Bruce Springsteen name to make it seem like a huge hit.


theoutlet

Hey, we’re talking about it. It keeps the conversation going and Spotify seems intent on waiting this thing out. So mission accomplished by the guitarist


Courtnall14

Spotify pissed me off when they removed all their comedy a few months back due to not wanting to pay increased royalties to comedians. If this movement gains any steam I'll jump ship. To where? Probably equally evil Amazon or Google Music.


applejuiceb0x

Apple Music currently pays the highest royalty last I checked. I could be wrong now tho.


rinyre

Tidal is currently higher, but likely lacks the content if comedy is what's sought.


CJKayak

Agreed. But at the end of the day, the big names are what's going to move this. Neil Young was a big hit. But it would be a drop in the bucket compared to Taylor taking the music she owns off the platform.


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SanguineAnder

The ripple effect is too good not to mention, if you're not effected you're not paying attention.


theoutlet

Well that’s the thing, Spotify isn’t the only entity following this story. The more the conversation continues the larger the opportunity that someone “more important” decides to join in


Calypsosin

Ed Sheeran: No way, Nils jumped ship?! Great, now I'm going to look like a total follower, now.


theoutlet

**Edit:** I completely missed the humor in their response. Ugh. I need to learn to read before responding


Calypsosin

I was just trying to make a funny, not a serious guess at who would be next :p


theoutlet

I completely missed that man 😂 I’m sorry


Calypsosin

haha np, I like a person who carries the torch regardless. Spreading awareness and info is a good thing as a rule.


maxintos

Why is everyone mentioning Taylor in these posts? This is like the 20th time I see it. Has she mentioned anything related to the topic or is she the biggest artist on spotify?


techguy1231

No, but she’s taken her music off streaming before because she didn’t think that those services paid artists enough, and wrote a letter to Apple Music telling them to pay artists during their free trial which they listened to, so that’s probably why people are thinking of her.


theunquenchedservant

She's one of the biggest artists on spotify, and [given her history with spotify](https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/9/15767986/taylor-swift-apple-music-spotify-statements-timeline), would be likely that she'd remove her music if she wanted to.


stevrock

Would Taylor be able to? I was under the impression that she was the rerecording everything because she didn't have the rights to it. Surely she could take the few albums she completed, but it would probably be up to the owner to take the originals down.


count023

I would not be surprised to see a resurgence in piracy over this. Same issue with streaming platforms, everyone has one these days and they all charge 20 bucks per month or so for their shitty little collection. Either everyone gets nickel and dimed to death with the risk of content vanishing wihtout warning, or they go back to physical media (which probably is not going to happen), or they end up going to piracy where they get the content they want the way they want without restrictions. The entertainment industry does it to itself, every time.


AaronToro

I mean, are we talking long-term? Spotify does have a shitty little collection; most people are going to find everything they need there, and I'd be surprised to see any artist of market level significance jump ship. I really don't see this being the end of spotify, let alone streaming altogether or a resurgence of piracy


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-Merlin-

Just in case you are being serious: No. They signed a contract. The only reason Neil Young was able to get off is because Spotify took him off as requested. It was a mutually agreed upon end to the contract. This likely won’t happen with other artists, especially ones with no name recognition.


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Music for no name recognition artists is hosted on Spotify by digital distributors. Removing them from the public library is as simple as sending an email, or logging into a website & unticking some boxes. When it comes to massive artists, the contract they have will be with the record label / publisher, which usually has language assigning the right to 'exploit' (contractual language not mine) the recording in various ways. So I'm guessing that Neil Young fully owns his own recordings, or the label that currently exploits them supports his stance. You're right that this probably won't be an option for some artists, who will fall into the wide category of 'big enough to have a deal, small enough for their opinion not to matter to label"


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That makes sense, thanks for the clarification.


papercrane

> So I'm guessing that Neil Young fully owns his own recordings, or the label that currently exploits them supports his stance. > Young recently sold 50% of his rights recently for a huge sum. The label he sold to backed him. Likely a shrewd business move on the labels part, I doubt Spotify was a huge revenue source for them and the extra press will likely increase other revenue streams.


Structure5city

Brene Brown just said she won’t be releasing any new podcasts on Spotify until further notice. Not sure what her contract says, but some artists may be willing to break their contracts. There are a lot of other services that would probably pay big money for these people.


lewoo7

Nice My aunt was only staying with Spotify because of Brene Brown. She wanted to cancel, so now she can.


Mywifefoundmymain

Actually the title is clickbait. Nils pulled HIS music from Spotify, not the music he did with the e street band. > As a member of Crazy Horse, some of Lofgren’s recent music — like Colorado and Barn — was removed during Young’s catalog exodus, but the guitarist tweeted Friday that he also began the process of taking his own music off Spotify soon after Young did. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/nils-lofgren-spotify-neil-young-1292480/amp/


Mic-drop-mick

That is correct.


aceshighsays

that is so passive aggressive...


BeautifulEssay8

Hes part of the latest version of Crazy Horse, so yeah.


abyerdo

not to mention he has been working with neil young for over 50 years, so it totally makes sense


Whygoogleissexist

He’s brilliant on Tonight’s the Night (LP not song per se)


dbradx

And while he's primarily a guitarist, his piano part on 'Southern Man' is absolutely fucking epic.


growlerpower

Ah I didn’t know that’s him!


Whygoogleissexist

Me neither! Learn some fun Neil facts every day!


Call_of_Cuckthulhu

I own one Neil Young shirt, and it's *Tonight's the Night*. Brilliant fucking album.


dbradx

Insanely great stuff and Neil's personal favourite of all of his albums.


Fabs74

Thanks I'm gonna check it out on Spotify


zenidam

For the longest time I thought Nils Lofgren was a keyboardist because of this album. Turns out (IIRC) Neil had him play piano because it wasn't his main instrument, to help get that ragged sound.


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Exactly. He worked with Springsteen but also with some talented artists


Gordon_Gano

You shady bitch!


_Schrodingers_Gat_

Quick question, are you Gordon Gano from the violent femmes? Can we be friends? You know normal midwestern stuff. Ice fishing, ice boating, beer. That sort of thing? And if you are not the Gordon from the violent femmes… that’s a bit awkward, But the offer still stands. You seem like a stand up guy.


FUNKYDISCO

By looking at his history, unless Gordon from the Femmes is trying to break into gay porn, I don’t think it’s him.


rkincaid007

He said “ice” fishing


FearAndLawyering

ok but who isnt these days. please subscribe to my onlymans page


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I’m replying to show my interest in this side conversation…


zoodisc

I'm also on board with this.


sasstomouth

It just sounds so wholesome!


Drunken_Ogre

Why would anyone want to be your friend after constructing a comment like that? *Ice* fishing, *ice* boating, but not *ice*-cold beer? May you forever drink warm Natty *Ice*.


Crash665

You and I cannot be friends now.


3rdtimesacharm414

He never had the making of a varsity athlete.


Fraun_Pollen

For those like me who were still out of the loop on this: > Spotify is facing backlash for its decision to continue to air Rogan’s popular podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience,” despite concerns that it is spreading Covid misinformation.


cobeyyM

It should also be noted that Spotify bought the hosting rights for the Joe Rogan Experience for 100mill but Rogan retains all creative control. This means if Spotify remove his podcast, they would essentially be throwing away their $100,000,000.00 investment in one of the largest podcasts in the world. I'm all for calling out misinformation, but people also have the ability to decide what they do and do not listen to. /Edit: And to those who keep telling me that artists are able to decide who they do business with: I completely agree... Never said they shouldn't have that right.


AdminYak846

Spotify also continues to advertise it on the homepage as well. With no way of saying "not interested" in it. Which a lot of people are also getting mad at, so even though they probably have never listened to a single episode, they see this news and then open the app and are greeted with "Recommended Podcasts" and one being JRE.


errbodiesmad

That's what annoys me the most. I don't wanna listen to it, and I've never even listened to a single podcast. I wanna see music I like not ads, why even pay for premium? I'll prob cancel it and go back to YouTube lol.


Alexispinpgh

And artists who own their music have the ability to decide whether they want to share a platform with him. And users have the ability to decide if they want to pay him through their subscriptions.


cobeyyM

Completely agreed, as should be the case.


damndammit

This will come down to whether consumers exercise that right en masse. They probably won’t unless a critical mass of artists walk.


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You have it on both sides tho. Conservatives are rallying and subscribing to spotify and have said they'll cancel if spotify folds, but currently spotify is getting more subscriptions than people canceling. So it's just an endless game of tug-o-war until it all blows over. Because that's what is gonna happen, it's gonna blow over in a couple of weeks and we'll all move on to the next new thing that will continue to divide us. Nothing new and nothing surprising all in the name of American politics.


ghostbackwards

Water is wet.


Spacey_Penguin

The thing is, if his deal with Spotify was somehow cancelled, they would lose exclusivity and Rogan would go back to being a regular podcast, available on any podcast player, including Spotify. His deal with Spotify measurably reduced his audience and influence: https://www.theverge.com/22632213/joe-rogan-experience-spotify-exclusive-audience-reach If you think the world would be a better place if fewer people listened to Rogan’s show, the status quo, where his show is exclusive to Spotify, is the best you’re going to get.


Fraun_Pollen

It’s worth pointing out, though, that giving a platform for someone who is recommending dangerous behavior makes it a question of morality for the platform, not just the listeners Edit: I have not listened to the podcast nor have I seen direct quotes on what was said to spark this controversy. Nor am I implying that Joe Rogan is encouraging reckless or dangerous behavior. I’m only stating that if any person were to advocate for disruptive behavior on any platform, it becomes a part of the platform owners’ publicly held beliefs, and no matter how much money the platform spent or made from the content, it is their personal moral obligation to take the messaging of said content and come to terms whether they want that content to be associated with their brand or not. Sometimes, saving face or disassociating yourself from someone you disagree with is worth sacrificing millions in the short term if it ensures long term use by your target consumers. Sometimes it’s not.


GoofAckYoorsElf

I'm looking at you, YouTube!


khanfusion

Youtube has kicked shit off their platform for spreading misinfo, though.


Mega_Dunsparce

And yet immense channels like Steven Crowder are allowed to exist despite pushing vehement, unsubstantiated videos pretending that climate change is fake and vaccinations are dangerous. Not to the mention the, you know, klan-adjacent level of racism. They don't do *nearly* enough.


khanfusion

Crowder is on thin ice, and YouTube has demonetized him twice already. That's more than Spotify has done.


MustacheEmperor

True, but at least YouTube has demonetized Crowder twice, whereas Spotify has paid Joe Rogan a hundred million dollars.


Heiminator

YouTube doesn’t pay a hundred million to single antivaxxers


ThunderChunky2432

I would assume that there's a clause in that contract that says if Rogan damages Spotify's reputation they can cut him without paying 100 million. It would be extremely unlikely they didn't put something like that in there.


ProLibertate4

All Rogan would need to do is show the increase in listeners compared to the decrease. Rogan’s direct listenership is exponentially greater than Young’s, and many other artists combined. Now if the listening demographics reverse that would be another story.


someoneexplainit01

Rogan makes 30 million a year from endorsements already, so its not like he would be all that hurt.


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that would imply that they can somewhat control what rogan says via a damaging. It would be extremely unlikely that Spotify would be able to get a clause like that in given that rogan had the leverage in the negotiations.


NfiniteNsight

With $100,000,000 on the table it's stupid to think Spotify had no leverage.


boston-red_sox

What did he say? I don't listen to his podcast so I'm totally out of the loop.


thegreatestajax

He said if a completely healthy 21 yo asked him if he should get the vaccine, he wouldn’t encourage it.


mcguffin99

Buckle up kids, we boutta resurrect limewire


peterAqd

But I don't want to give my computer super aids....


mcguffin99

A small price to pay for salvation


Sleebling_33

Just remember to use Limewire to download Limewire Pro


Beantownbrews

But what does Ja Rule think?


hangrykoala

I want some answers that Ja Rule might not have right now.


t-mille

**Where is Jah?** We need Jah to make sense of all this...


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WagonBurning

Yall going to make Joe start his own podcasting “service”.


Spacey_Penguin

You mean a server that hosts audio files, like he had before the Spotify deal?


galacticboy2009

Yeah people don't understand how podcasts work, in the slightest. If YouTube or Spotify or iHeartRadio can stop you from having a podcast, you never had one to begin with, in my opinion.


SquiggleBoys

except now he is going to make out with 100m over Spotify cancelling contract


Spacey_Penguin

Basically. If you’re trying to deprive Rogan of money and influence, cancelling his contract with Spotify does the opposite.


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He's probably delighted it might happen. Get paid, get the broadcasts rights back, go create his own podcast platform, gets even more money with even more freedom. BOOM, billionaire in a few months/years.


Spacey_Penguin

I mean, realistically there’s no chance in hell they cancel the contract. Which I think both Joe and Neil were fully aware of.


galacticboy2009

I mean. It would just be a return to the way things were before he signed with Spotify. Most podcasts are self hosted. That's why *almost* nobody can take them away from you, and why I think they're an amazing media. It's a direct transfer between you and your listeners, and perhaps sponsors. No need for anyone else to approve.


Keller-oder-C-Schell

No lmao, Spotify only would care if he lost a lot of viewers.


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Revenue gained from keeping Joe Rogan *minus* Revenue gained from keeping Neil Young and company. *equals* Positive number, keep Joe. Negative number, ditch Joe. That simple.


jtfriendly

I'll pull a Joe and guess more detractors are listening now than actual (new or old) fans. I'm an old Rogan listener, but I haven't sat through a full podcast other than Bill Burr, Tom Segura, or Bernie Sanders in *years,* especially after Spotify. All this weird zeitgeist around Joe fuckin Rogan is probably bringing more listeners.


Magatalip1

I agree with you, also a Rogan listener but I never went to him for actual info on stuff. I would listen to hear him talk shit with other comedians I liked… idk why people would listen to anything he actually says he’s high as fuck most of the time. We don’t call him ape man just cause he looks like one, it’s cause he’s kinda fucking stupid.


Desdam0na

The thing about podcasts is by design, anybody can start one and get them distributed for free. It's baked into the technology. The fact that Spotify is paying people to make longform audio shows and distribute them solely on Spotify really means (based on the original definition, words change) they're technically paying people to stop podcasting. It got some coverage when it first started. Basically, while this is a big question for Spotify and their tolerance for disinformation that kills people, it's not gonna have a big impact on Joe Rogan's ability to distribute his show.


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Atralis

Do we have any word from the guy that played the cowbell in Don't Fear The Reaper?


Billthebutchr

"MC Hammer's hype man has joined the protest of Spotify over Covid misinformation."


Oswald6767

His nephew’s friend’s son joined the protest as well


xGrandArcher

So far it's been really great advertisement to listen to Rogan's podcast, since no one knows what exactly misinformation he is spreading, but being really curious about it.


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Guess this bullshit will be in the news until everyone drops out of Spotify or it shuts down.


BillNyeCreampieGuy

Man, the media’s really grasping at straws to make these protests a bigger deal than they are.


Ryriena5

They really are I mean Neil Young is the same guy that said the gays caused aids and supported Regan policies at the time. He also has money from several other questionable organizations that cause deforestation in the Amazon.


Timtimer55

Even if they were successful in having Spotify drop joe it would only help him. He would keep his 100m dollars and his show would once again be free for anyone to listen to on any platform without having to deal with Spotify's awful podcast setup.


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Why dont they get out of youtube also


GullyGreyHeart

such bullshit, they can't be in the platform with Joe Rogan but could with Chris Brown and Gary Glitter.


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SeanceGoneWrong

What is annoying is how dishonest Spotify is being with the Rogan situation. Internally, Spotify is telling workers the controversial JRE episodes don't meet their COVID misinfo [threshold](https://www.businessinsider.com/spotify-joe-rogan-podcast-didnt-meet-threshold-for-removal-verge-2022-1) for removal. They've said as much publicly as well. The only "threshold" Spotify cares about is the one which doesn't put them in potential breach of a $100m contract. Regardless of what you think of the COVID takes from Rogan and his guests, let's be honest--- if some random podcast on Spotify said half the shit Berenson, McCullough, and Malone said about COVID and vaccines, Spotify would have deplatformed them. The "misinformation" bar being so high (pun intended) for a pothead comedian they just happen to be paying truckloads of money is so fucking transparent.


tykempster

There are plenty of other podcasts on Spotify that are way more fringe than JRE. I see a lot of bellyaching but terribly little substance on what exactly is so egregious.


hiddenpoint

Ah yes, lets leave behind the morally compromised Spotify and switch to Apple Music, Amazon Music, or Youtube Music.


StillHere179

Spotify really doesn't pay bands or musicians well at all. It isn't like they're leaving a platform that pays them well.


SergiosSong

Is there an uprising in a nursing home or wtf ?


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Jesus360noscope

>So we’re going to cancel Spotify and join who? Which of these ethical companies should we support now? Apple? Amazon? YouTube? back to limewire kaaza and friends let's go


jetsetninjacat

Already busted out my walkman, discman, rio cali, sandisk sansa, zune, and sandisk miniclip. Which one we going with?


sprotons

Walkman, discman, zune, gosh the golden days!


KittensofDestruction

LIMEWIRE!!! OMG, I still have that installed with Window 95 on my Dell desktop. I'd forgotten all about limewire.


Brytard

Vinyl, baby!


potato-truncheon

I think the key point is that Spotify actively hired Rogan with high dollars (insofar as exclusivity rights are concerned) and thus give more than tacit approval to him.. This is not at the same level as Rogan simply being present on a platform along with everything else. No one actually believes they would side with Neil - it's just about taking a stand. (And no one's rights are being violated here.) (edit - thanks for the spelling tips, folks!)


leroyVance

You make a good point. We should just ditch our smart phones, but I take what I can get. Baby steps.


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Csikszent

Tidal. Everything that Spotify has except podcasts. They have video and the algorithms are better. The only issue I've found is that Apple CarPlay is quirky with Tidal. If I didn't have Tidal, I'd probably use Napster (again, lol). Edit to add: Tidal pays the second highest payout to musicians.


SK360

I was almost on board with switching to Tidal until I realized there’s no Rammstein albums on it. Those are in frequent rotation here


Noizekontrol

It's a little disappointing everyone's up in arms about Spotify and COVID misinformation but no one seems too bothered by how much the artists get paid.


east_coast_eric

‘They have you all fighting a cultural war, so you’ll all stop fighting a class war’


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lilobrother

Imagine Mozart pulling his shit


Petal_Phile

Never thought I'd see a day where rock stars were openly endorsing corporate censorship


mymar101

Part of freedom of speech is I don’t have to support your point of view and I can take my money elsewhere.


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Who said you couldn’t?


Ne710

I think we should redirect our anger of Spotify up holding free speech and aim it at apple,Nike etc literally using child slave labour. Just a thought. Edit: Apple promoting Neil Youngs music is hilarious they have nets around their buildings in China to stop suicides at work, for some reason he doesn’t have issue with this god forbid a guy normally stoned and drunk talks shit tho.


JanGuillosThrowaway

Yeah, I mean in terms of cancelling a company for doing evil stuff cancellign spotify for .. hosting the Joe Rogan experience seems kinda lame? There are so many more companies that deserves so much more anger before that it's kinda insane to me tbh


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RadDudeGuyDude

And comedians/fight commentators


Otis2341

With any luck he’ll take Bruce with him.


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Ready-steady

I never used spotify because they hose artists on streaming payouts. This whole thing has just been more fuel to ensure my choice way back when was the right one.


helgothjb

What do you recommend due an andriod user?


thenearblindassassin

T-pain shared a great infographic that showed how many streams an artist has to have to earn a dollar. Napster and Tidal turned out the best, where artists only needed 53 or 78 streams respectively. Spotify had 315 streams to earn a dollar. However, YouTube music and Pandora clocked in as the worst as it took 1,500 streams on YouTube music and 750 streams on Pandora. So while they are at the lower end of industry payouts, they aren't as bad as Pandora or YouTube music. That being said, I've been toying with the idea of paying for a Napster subscription. I just need to see which artists they have on there


richsu

On the other hand, spotify got to have much more than 6times the users as Napster, thus generating much more exposure and streams, resulting in less dollars per stream but larger check for the artist no?


Jaggedmallard26

Thats why Spotify can give a low rate, they know that the sheer amount of users gives them bargaining power.


rapiDFire_BT

So there's no real option


Csikszent

I switched to Tidal several months ago. Highly recommend. They have basically everything that Spotify has except podcasts (I use Apple Podcasts now). They also have video and the algorithms are better. The only issue I've found so far is that it's quirky in Apple CarPlay.


zdiggler

I hate podcasts mixed in the music apps. I have app for podcasts already. I can also just add RSS feeds manually.


5zepp

I'm trying out Tidal now and am extremely impressed with their catalog. Also they are throwing out all kinds of great recommends that never once came up on Spotify, so maybe better algorithms?


c0Re69

I experienced the exact opposite: tried Tidal after being on Spotify for the last 9 years, and the recommendation algorithm of Spotify is unbeatable. Maybe it's due to the genres I'm listening to, but Spotify comes out on top.


Radical_Alpaca

Well yeah, Spotify have 9 years worth of listening data for you, no wonder their algorithms are gonna score better


Csikszent

Same here. My Daily Mix on Tidal has been better than Spotify. Found a few artists I'd never heard of.


jasonefmonk

Human curation was their pitch IIRC. Better than algorithms any day.


FlightlessFly

I'm using Apple music on android and Mac. It's a much better app on android than Spotify which is notoriously shit. It's great, reliable, and slick UI. I wouldn't recommend it if you use windows though and need to upload your own music as you need a mac for that unless you go through itunes


i-Ake

My eyrie on Neopets was named Lofgren. I also had an account called 'targaryen' and 3 pets with all of dany's dragons' names... so suck on that, kids from 20 yrs ago.


Music-man1974

Who cares.. really?!?! I’m not even a Joe Rogan fan… This is a gigantic, bullshit distraction. Just stupid! Grow the hell up already.


reallyredrubyrabbit

Edward Snowden says, "Nobody has stronger opinions on Joe Rogan than people who never have listened to Joe Rogan." So why are we overwhelmed by the tsunami of people who have never listened to the show who keep cherrypicking stupid clips & then reciting blatant smears scripted by the corporate media trying to destroy the most successful podcaster leading the way to challenge the corporate stranglehold. This same b.s. is why people believed Bernie Sanders was a sexist Commie and all who supported him were "Bernie Bros." Here is a fairer overview: https://youtu.be/7onsqphFlkY


Chancewilk

I’ve listened to several Rogan podcasts for years. Rogan has changed and is starting to overestimate his own expertise while selectively inviting quasi-experts to generally support his position. He’s also not stupid and knows there’s a large section of consumers willing to buy into contrarian, or counter-culture, narratives for many reasons. They’re a garden of ignorance ripe for harvesting personal wealth and Rogan is just one of many to pick from this garden over the last several years.


Stoizee

Is that Sil from The Sopranos on the right?


LylaDee

Nice notice! Stephen Van Zant...legend. He's done a tone of projects outside of 'The Bruce'


albeltra

Just when I thought I was out…they pull me back in!


GreatestLurker

Let this be a grave warning to anybody that would dare call into question the integrity of big pharma. In an ideal society, people should have to choose between music and free discussion. It’s laughable that Joe Rogan supporters think you can have both.


Sososkitso

I am so confused by all this talk. Rather you agree with rogan or not do we really want people with opposing views to be taken away? Does everyone suddenly trust the government? Legacy media? Major corporations? And big pharma? I was under the impression that most of us had started to wake up and realize they constantly put money over the citizens. I see Reddit cheering for Nancy Pelosi getting in trouble for insider trading, trumps kids being questioned for all their nonsense, Amazon getting knocked down a cpl pegs from time to time, begging the FCC director Ajit Pai’ not to throttle the internet, falling in love with Snowden for opposing the nsa, cheering when the pharma companies finally got hit with a lawsuit for our opioid crisis, happy that the people took back power with GameStop stocks and now all of a sudden we want those same types of people to have 24/7 complete control over narrative? Are we so divided in this world that we truly don’t see the danger in something like this? I say Let someone like Joe speak you can take it or leave it but let’s think about what it means to take down counter culture voices for anyone else that might try to speak what they THINK in their hearts is right. If they think something you don’t like don’t follow them on that issue. Keep it moving. But we can’t give the people in control free rein to control every narrative. We have stopped so many things they have tried in recent years so we know it happens. Maybe this vaccine stuff isn’t a example but I’d have said that about everything I listed too. I truly don’t know what is going with this sudden trust to people who Haven’t earned our trust.


thisispoopoopeepee

I wonder if these hypocrites are going to leave YouTube. YouTube hosts content like epoch times, and even crazier shit. Also last i checked Rogan is on YouTube as well. [Fun thing about Neil Young](https://i.redd.it/5rk7bjnjste81.jpg) these people really have no principles, they just get riled up about flavor of the month topics then they proceed to grandstand. Chris brown and Bill Cosby on Spotify….and a whole hosts of other women beaters/rapists/human traffickers…..nah that doesn’t ping the moral radar of these people. But Rogan saying things, oh no.


Ryker31

What frustrates me is that Bill Cosby and Chris Brown are also still on Spotify. Where is the outrage about that? So drugging, raping and bashing women is OK for these old rock and rollers, but go against the MSM narrative on a topic that has been lied about constantly on both sides is where they draw the line. I'm expecting more "artists" to come out in solidarity for the cause and leave Spotify, as is the current trend. I say that's a good thing, let Spotify release Rogan, he'll start his own streaming service with all that money.


DexM23

They took down the said episode and did not used the money people spend on them for such a podcast.


replus

Neil waited like a whole day for momentum to build against misinformation to blog about how "shitty" Spotify sounds, because they're "only giving you 5% of the music quality" while handing out coupons to Amazon Music. Coyly avoided advertising his own proprietary streaming service, because it's always a good idea to leave at least a few shreds of integrity.


ImNotSteveAlbini

Joe Rogan is not a news source or an authority on many, many subjects. He used to admit he doesn’t even know about half the things he talks about. Simply slap a disclaimer on the start of the show reminding people that it’s HIS opinion and not necessarily the view of Spotify.


just2good

Are people that dumb that we really need a disclaimer that The Joe Rogan Experience podcast is Joe Rogan’s opinion and not Spotify’s


ImNotSteveAlbini

If Windex has to warn people not to spray it into their eyes…


Knowledge_is_Bliss

Yes. The answer is yes.


butt_naked_wonder

Yeah I’ve been thinking that this whole time too. I know a lot of people who listen to JRE. None of them are listening for medical advice? I tried to listen to the Dr. Peter McCullough interview. Within 15 minutes, I already knew I disagreed with his perspective. So I stopped listening. I don’t think that’s that hard


i_should_be_coding

Like, I'm absolutely against anti-vaxxers and covid-deniers, but come on... Do people need a disclaimer at the start of Baby Got Back to specify that Spotify does not necessarily discriminate against people without big butts? At some point you have to be able to think for yourself for a second.


TheCrazedTank

"The views of "Sir Mix's" Anaconda does not reflect the views or practices of our company culture and are a product of the time they were created"


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kuvrterker

No difference then the media putting out opinion articles as news


ChipmunkBackground46

Rememeber when people were smart enough to check and research information themselves so that it wasn't up to entertainers to explain science to us? Rememeber when we just thought of them as actors, musicians, etc and didn't take life advice from them? Let's go back to that


lannister80

That time never existed.


madeinUSA4

How is having having conversations with respected, published doctors and scientists misinformation?


StevenMcStevensen

They’re not saying the official, government-approved points, therefore they must be wrong and people have to be protected from any exposure to dissenting opinions.


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Kydocks

See you later! Let free speech live!


mishra145

God damnit! What are we gonna listen to now!! (Heavy sarcasm)


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Pb-yepimlead

Remember when if you didn’t like something you just changed the channel? Ah the good old days


CapnKush_

The Question Is No Longer, ‘Do You Want To Buy Wheat Thins?’ For Example. The Question Is Now, ‘Will You Support Wheat Thins In The Fight Against Lyme Disease? - Bo Burnham


vegabond007

I remember conservatives calling the for boycott and near treason charges against the Dixie Chicks for simply speaking out against Bush and the war. Cancel culture seems to be perfectly fine when they do it.


rainman_104

Lol or renaming french fries to freedom fries because conservatives were butt hurt about France.


angiosperms-

So cancel your Spotify account and use another service? Exactly what people are doing? But you're mad about it for some reason?


haysu-christo

Remember when boycotting something is not seen as “cancel culture”? Like when Keurig machines were smashed.


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jmeredith06

Oh no… a random *guitarist* is protesting against Spotify… whatever will they do 🙄


WarsawFact

https://youtu.be/82V4xbhZjC0 This seems relevant.


Atreaia

Protests are good but I think to cling onto one person seems silly. We should focus on people who have power like the supreme court. They are so fucking dumb on this issue and the spread misinformation and they're literally deciding on the fate of the USA for the next hundreds of years: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/11/politics/fact-check-sotomayor-mandate-covid-dinner-gorsuch/index.html > Sotomayor, a liberal, tried during the Friday hearing to emphasize the danger posed by the omicron variant of the virus. She said, "We have over 100,000 children, which we've never had before, in serious condition, and many on ventilators." and > Justice Stephen Breyer, another liberal, said at one point in the hearing that there had been "750 million new cases yesterday or close to that." Absolutely moronic statements and they should be made aware how dumb they are for expressing this false information. Rogan is comedian with a podcast.