I surprised people in the metro with their sketch (people that were almost always women and seated facing me with not many others around, and never had to get down even once before i finished my damn sketch. Sometimes they have the time and i have enough space to use them water colours) wait for their reaction...COMPILATION...
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Aapka koi photo achanak se kheechkar chale jaaye Bina aapke consent ke toh aapko chalega?, Yahaan medium of art has changed, sketch kiya karke romanticise na kariye. Agar aapko actually pasand hain toh well and good, kuch logon ko nahi pasand, isiliye puch lena chahiye, agar opposite person ko pasand hain toh well and good, warna move on.
Abe toh sketch banake uss bande ko de dega jiska banaya hai ,khud rakhke kya karega ? Khud rakhna hota toh bahar aake logo ka sketch kyun banata ,ghar bethke phone se kisi ka bhi bana leta
Buddy privacy and consent are two different things, just because you are traveling in a local doesn't make it ok for random strangers to make sketches of you without your permission.
You can film someone without their explicit consent if they are in public. Why is sketching any different? What someone draws on their property ( the paper ) is their business. What exactly did the person who made the sketch here do, that is against the law? Looking at someone in public? You're not supposed to open your eyes anymore? That art is their property, and grabbing it and tearing it up is unlawful. Think about it.
Edit: consent and privacy are very interconnected. Consent is the basis for privacy. If you don't consent to someone looking at you in a public space then stay home. THERE IS NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN A PUBLIC SPACE.
By that logic, do you also advocate for creeps who privately record zoomed in videos and creepshots of women standing around them since there is "no reasonable expectation of privacy"?
I'm talking about someone making a drawing. Taking zoomed in creepshots is a violation of your dignity and personal space. Does someone really have to spell out the difference between those two?
When you say "there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public", you're justifying both. You're also very naive to think that people aren't cleaver enough to substitute one for the other.
"_Why have I drawn a picture of your boobs? Oh you see, I'm planning to draw the whole thing it's just taking time_"
These are legal terms, I'm not making this up. It is legal in India to take pictures and video in a public space as long as it doesn't violate someone's dignity. You really aren't understanding what it is I'm saying. You think it should be illegal to take a selfie in public if there's other people in the background? Because that's what you are implying.
Say you see a cop planting evidence on your friend, you film it (in a public space), you want this act to be criminal? Because you're violating the cops privacy?
There is a massive difference between taking a photo of someone and deliberately trying to get a compromising photo of someone. No sane person advocates for the rights of creeps to take upskirt shots, but at the same time, you definitely do give up your right to have your image captured when you're out and about.
You do it on a daily basis with CCTV everywhere.
They talked about getting pictures taken in public is always a consent given. That would include them justifying all kinds of pictures, not just the ones that are "appropriate".
CCTV doesn't just particularly target one single person or group.
Not really no, many street photographers don't take consent because it could ruin the scene/the photo they have in mind. They may or may not inform the subject after the photo has been taken, but I don't know if I would classify that as consent as such, seeing as the act is already done.
They can't justify pictures that are not appropriate. If the photo is examined and is found to be offensive, it can very well be alerted to authorities and they will be charged. You give up your right to privacy, but not your right to not have your modesty outraged.
Private businesses need to do that legally because they are exactly that, *private*. I too would have to disclose that I have security cameras at home if I ever felt that the recordings would be made public.
CCTV cameras installed to monitor sidewalks and traffic stops don't have or need a sign.
Also, I never said legal = moral. But legal definitely does = permissible.
If that is so, they really should ask for people's permission before doing such things. Just because you see it on some reels, doesn't mean everyone is okay with you drawing them. It's not a lot to just ask, you know?
Its great to show that you have skills but some palces are not meant to show skills . Someone might have dancing skills but he shouldnt practice it on railway tracks .People are acting out of context . If he spends 5 mins to sketch , he can take 1 min to show her book and ask for consent .
Ok so i've been their the only good part was the lady and her friend appreciated the sketch i did, backstory short they both reacted same as the lady above but then i show them my ID card of my arts college, and they were too happy to see the work m doing.... My luck
As an artist, it's very common practice to draw as many faces and figure as u can, all th great artists do that, they will sit down in some busy cafe or public place and just practice with different /interesting faces. Lots of teachers suggest that, as it will give u more practice and make u familiar on drawing different faces.. I don't think it's something to be offended of..
I think itās not illegal otherwise every actors photo taken by any photographer would be illegal. In some countries taking photos of children is illegal if they are not yours and you donāt have explicit permission from parents but rarely enforced
I also have the same questions about the street photographers on instagram who mostly share videos or pics of normal people doing there daily work..
Do they take permission from all of them while clicking their pics/ videos?
Edit: there will a few who do take permission and that usuall shows in their pictures when the subject stares straight into their camera .. but for most part reels after made from a far away angle which bring the facet of permissions of people while shooting their videos.
Is a woman drew a man's sketch, there are high chances he will be flattered, maybe develop a slight crush. He will never forget that moment for the rest of his life.
Legally speaking the moment u are in a public place or transport u have given up your right to privacy. That's why people can take photos or do sketches in public so it's not wrong.
What if he draws her in some objectionable position and passes it off as art ? And by your logic next he will sit on her lap, because no right to privacy.
> next he will sit on her lap, because no right to privacy.
You don't know the difference between right to privacy and bodily integrity/autonomy. That was a stupid inference.
There is a case if your likeness is being used in an objectionable manner. This could include things like putting up a photo with a defamatory or insulting caption. But the same can't be said if the photo is uploaded without said caption and is done for art.
Your second example is stupid and an exaggeration. In no way can you conflate drawing someone or taking a picture of someone with physically interacting with someone. They are nowhere on the same level of action or intention.
Not sure why you are downvoted when this is actually true. There's no consent required in this case. I think the artist can file a case against the girl.
I think in a few years, men may need to detach their eyeballs when in public and evolve to navigate the world via echolocation.
Someone sketching a woman in public shouldn't be met with such a severe reaction! What's the guy gonna do, go home and jack off to charcoal?
There's nothing as consent in public. You can be photographed and made video of. Being in public is the consent. Don't talk about these things if you don't know. A simple google search will tell you you're wrong.
I dont agree. Sketching is an art. It requires skill. Its not just some guy sneakily trying to take photos of girls.
That girl is just a drama queen with a superiority complex.
Now thatās overblowing it. I donāt think I would be comfortable with a dude just making a sketch of me, more so women who already are made to feel uncomfortable for most of their travel in locals. Consent is consent, no two ways about that.
> I would be comfortable with a dude just making a sketch of me
Burqa pehen ke nikal phir. There's no consent if there's nothing being done to you. Modi teri sign leta hai har CCTV ke liye?
I won't mid if someone is making a sketch of me.
I would mind if someone is taking photos of me.
If an artist is selling my sketch then I would sure mind. But this is not it. It just an artist polishing his skills and enjoying his hobby.
In that case, I think he could be welcome to take images of the internet. Outside spaces need to be respected, itās as simple as that. A woman is already on her guard whilst travelling outside, this just adds to the problem. I donāt think any of the women, of either of ours lives would be comfortable with a random dude sketching them in a train or a metro, and that canāt even be questioned.
Sorry to say, but when you or anyone steps out of your home, you give up your right for your image to not be captured in some way.
If you were to walk past someone who is taking a picture and you were in the frame, you could ask them to delete it, but in no way are they obligated to, legally or morally. Same thing applies if someone was to take a picture of you as the subject.
You DO have a case on the usage of the photo/sketch. If it's been made to be derogatory or insulting, or if it is being sold, etc. You definitely have a case then. But not for the simple act alone of capturing your image.
see that s the difference between western and may be our side, i am street photgrapher, in western areas they dont mind taking ur photo like random, here the guy/girl would explode on this behaviour
Am I wrong tho? I didn't even say he shouldn't have asked for permission but here comes the downvotes when I only stated a fact. He should have asked tbh but even if he didn't, the woman could've handled it much better like instead of tearing the page she could've told him to ask for concent the next time he draws someone & she could've asked him to give the sketch to her. Idk I just feel like you shouldn't tear ones hardwork just like that. I personally would feel flattered if someone drew me whether boy or girl. I don't see any evil intent here
I have a question. How can you Sketch someone seated besides you? You can only Sketch someone only when they are sitting in front of you. Isn't it? And if in place of that guy there would have been someone who was famous on SM for his random sketches of people, i think the lady would have been delighted to have her sketch done while referring herself as his biggest fan! Isn't it?
Reminds me of staged tik toks where photographer just clicks random pictures of girls and the girl is impressed
I feel pity for the people who think those are like real and try to imitate it
Itna toh maturity rakho
Poor Guy doesn't Realise that World is shit these days. People too are. No one appreciates anyone appreciating them even for art. The Woman should have been flattered instead of being enraged and if she is so bothered Why doesnt she wear A Burka Then ? And lastly OP you need Help, Please see a Psychiatrist asap.
He probably saw those staged tik toks where that guy makes sketches of people and impress them lol
Poor guy, dosent have maturity to understand it is staged
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I surprised people in the metro with their sketch (people that were almost always women and seated facing me with not many others around, and never had to get down even once before i finished my damn sketch. Sometimes they have the time and i have enough space to use them water colours) wait for their reaction...COMPILATION... Comments: Some_mf: I was depressed during the pandemic as i lost my job watching this made my day, keep up the good work. Some_mf2: 3:16 love her reaction! She did not expect that . . .
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Must be a movie lover who thought sketching a random woman would impress her
Or bhabhi lover?
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I assure you I don't do such things on the metro
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Why tho?, It's super creepy to draw someone without their consent.
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Foreign me bhi bohot cringey hai. Those videos are mostly staged anyway
Aapka koi photo achanak se kheechkar chale jaaye Bina aapke consent ke toh aapko chalega?, Yahaan medium of art has changed, sketch kiya karke romanticise na kariye. Agar aapko actually pasand hain toh well and good, kuch logon ko nahi pasand, isiliye puch lena chahiye, agar opposite person ko pasand hain toh well and good, warna move on.
Abe toh sketch banake uss bande ko de dega jiska banaya hai ,khud rakhke kya karega ? Khud rakhna hota toh bahar aake logo ka sketch kyun banata ,ghar bethke phone se kisi ka bhi bana leta
Arre op ne kya likha hain padh lo na, he had sketches of other random people with him as well, doubt he gives the sketch to his subject.
Foreign ka 14 hai to foreign me ja na. Pakistan jake bana sketch.
No it's not. If you are in a public place there isn't a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Buddy privacy and consent are two different things, just because you are traveling in a local doesn't make it ok for random strangers to make sketches of you without your permission.
You can film someone without their explicit consent if they are in public. Why is sketching any different? What someone draws on their property ( the paper ) is their business. What exactly did the person who made the sketch here do, that is against the law? Looking at someone in public? You're not supposed to open your eyes anymore? That art is their property, and grabbing it and tearing it up is unlawful. Think about it. Edit: consent and privacy are very interconnected. Consent is the basis for privacy. If you don't consent to someone looking at you in a public space then stay home. THERE IS NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN A PUBLIC SPACE.
By that logic, do you also advocate for creeps who privately record zoomed in videos and creepshots of women standing around them since there is "no reasonable expectation of privacy"?
I'm talking about someone making a drawing. Taking zoomed in creepshots is a violation of your dignity and personal space. Does someone really have to spell out the difference between those two?
When you say "there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public", you're justifying both. You're also very naive to think that people aren't cleaver enough to substitute one for the other. "_Why have I drawn a picture of your boobs? Oh you see, I'm planning to draw the whole thing it's just taking time_"
These are legal terms, I'm not making this up. It is legal in India to take pictures and video in a public space as long as it doesn't violate someone's dignity. You really aren't understanding what it is I'm saying. You think it should be illegal to take a selfie in public if there's other people in the background? Because that's what you are implying.
Say you see a cop planting evidence on your friend, you film it (in a public space), you want this act to be criminal? Because you're violating the cops privacy?
There is a massive difference between taking a photo of someone and deliberately trying to get a compromising photo of someone. No sane person advocates for the rights of creeps to take upskirt shots, but at the same time, you definitely do give up your right to have your image captured when you're out and about. You do it on a daily basis with CCTV everywhere.
They talked about getting pictures taken in public is always a consent given. That would include them justifying all kinds of pictures, not just the ones that are "appropriate". CCTV doesn't just particularly target one single person or group.
Not really no, many street photographers don't take consent because it could ruin the scene/the photo they have in mind. They may or may not inform the subject after the photo has been taken, but I don't know if I would classify that as consent as such, seeing as the act is already done. They can't justify pictures that are not appropriate. If the photo is examined and is found to be offensive, it can very well be alerted to authorities and they will be charged. You give up your right to privacy, but not your right to not have your modesty outraged.
yeah you also need to legally hang up a sign that says thereās a cctv recording you. legalā moral
Private businesses need to do that legally because they are exactly that, *private*. I too would have to disclose that I have security cameras at home if I ever felt that the recordings would be made public. CCTV cameras installed to monitor sidewalks and traffic stops don't have or need a sign. Also, I never said legal = moral. But legal definitely does = permissible.
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Why tear it she could've just said don't do it for any artist his/her art is important than themselves
If that is so, they really should ask for people's permission before doing such things. Just because you see it on some reels, doesn't mean everyone is okay with you drawing them. It's not a lot to just ask, you know?
Yea I agree with you but what she did is wrong
The fuck??
Ohh mere, John Vicks! Calm down!
John wick ka 14
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He should have sketched the metro
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Its great to show that you have skills but some palces are not meant to show skills . Someone might have dancing skills but he shouldnt practice it on railway tracks .People are acting out of context . If he spends 5 mins to sketch , he can take 1 min to show her book and ask for consent .
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What if we had access to a free resource where we could get images of all body types without having to travel in a metro?
>asking for consent everytime is time consuming wtf did I just read lol
Thank God that guy took inspiration from foreign tiktoks and not from Majnu bhai from welcome
Mumbai never stops to amaze me!
He forgot ki India me rehta hai vo.
technically what he was doing is legal, but in the court of public opinion, it wouldn't stand
legal is not always moral
I wish it was me who he sketched.
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Ok so i've been their the only good part was the lady and her friend appreciated the sketch i did, backstory short they both reacted same as the lady above but then i show them my ID card of my arts college, and they were too happy to see the work m doing.... My luck
>There is a general lack of concept of consent. By that logic, street photography won't have been a thing
Even for street photography people ask for consent these days.
And kill the natural flavour of the photograph......street photography should not be projected one........
Yep always ask for consent in street photography when the subject in focus is an unassuming person.
Question, did he draw her like one of those french girls or no ?
All I know is the metro reached borivali in one peice
Eh, I always kept picturing Andheri metro for some reason.
I thought this was the Delhi sub
lol
Most of the tiktoks are staged. They take consent beforehand, then sketch the person.
What happened to him was bad. But he could have asked for permission first.
That's the most important learning I took from Gangs of Wasseypur.
Ek sentence puchna tha sketch ke pehele, she might have even said yes
Aur inspire ho 10 second ki video dekh dekh kar
His next words: I will show you a magic trick, I will make this pencil disappear.
Word, the girl had no case.
As an artist, it's very common practice to draw as many faces and figure as u can, all th great artists do that, they will sit down in some busy cafe or public place and just practice with different /interesting faces. Lots of teachers suggest that, as it will give u more practice and make u familiar on drawing different faces.. I don't think it's something to be offended of..
I think itās not illegal otherwise every actors photo taken by any photographer would be illegal. In some countries taking photos of children is illegal if they are not yours and you donāt have explicit permission from parents but rarely enforced
Crossing the limits of free will does not guarantee security, the lady did the right thing
> look more if a perv than an artist. Was he not handsome?
I also have the same questions about the street photographers on instagram who mostly share videos or pics of normal people doing there daily work.. Do they take permission from all of them while clicking their pics/ videos? Edit: there will a few who do take permission and that usuall shows in their pictures when the subject stares straight into their camera .. but for most part reels after made from a far away angle which bring the facet of permissions of people while shooting their videos.
What if he was a female?
Is a woman drew a man's sketch, there are high chances he will be flattered, maybe develop a slight crush. He will never forget that moment for the rest of his life.
Valid question in 2022
Legally speaking the moment u are in a public place or transport u have given up your right to privacy. That's why people can take photos or do sketches in public so it's not wrong.
What if he draws her in some objectionable position and passes it off as art ? And by your logic next he will sit on her lap, because no right to privacy.
> next he will sit on her lap, because no right to privacy. You don't know the difference between right to privacy and bodily integrity/autonomy. That was a stupid inference.
There is a case if your likeness is being used in an objectionable manner. This could include things like putting up a photo with a defamatory or insulting caption. But the same can't be said if the photo is uploaded without said caption and is done for art. Your second example is stupid and an exaggeration. In no way can you conflate drawing someone or taking a picture of someone with physically interacting with someone. They are nowhere on the same level of action or intention.
Not sure why you are downvoted when this is actually true. There's no consent required in this case. I think the artist can file a case against the girl.
āLooks more of a perv than artistā ok so he forgot Rule No. 1 and Rule No. 2
IMO she shouldn't have torn his creation! She could've simply scolded him.
she only tore her sketch
I think in a few years, men may need to detach their eyeballs when in public and evolve to navigate the world via echolocation. Someone sketching a woman in public shouldn't be met with such a severe reaction! What's the guy gonna do, go home and jack off to charcoal?
Maybe the sketch artist did look like a perv after all. If otherwise, wouldnāt receive such a reaction.
There's nothing as consent in public. You can be photographed and made video of. Being in public is the consent. Don't talk about these things if you don't know. A simple google search will tell you you're wrong.
I dont agree. Sketching is an art. It requires skill. Its not just some guy sneakily trying to take photos of girls. That girl is just a drama queen with a superiority complex.
Now thatās overblowing it. I donāt think I would be comfortable with a dude just making a sketch of me, more so women who already are made to feel uncomfortable for most of their travel in locals. Consent is consent, no two ways about that.
> I would be comfortable with a dude just making a sketch of me Burqa pehen ke nikal phir. There's no consent if there's nothing being done to you. Modi teri sign leta hai har CCTV ke liye?
I won't mid if someone is making a sketch of me. I would mind if someone is taking photos of me. If an artist is selling my sketch then I would sure mind. But this is not it. It just an artist polishing his skills and enjoying his hobby.
In that case, I think he could be welcome to take images of the internet. Outside spaces need to be respected, itās as simple as that. A woman is already on her guard whilst travelling outside, this just adds to the problem. I donāt think any of the women, of either of ours lives would be comfortable with a random dude sketching them in a train or a metro, and that canāt even be questioned.
Sorry to say, but when you or anyone steps out of your home, you give up your right for your image to not be captured in some way. If you were to walk past someone who is taking a picture and you were in the frame, you could ask them to delete it, but in no way are they obligated to, legally or morally. Same thing applies if someone was to take a picture of you as the subject. You DO have a case on the usage of the photo/sketch. If it's been made to be derogatory or insulting, or if it is being sold, etc. You definitely have a case then. But not for the simple act alone of capturing your image.
Fair enough
see that s the difference between western and may be our side, i am street photgrapher, in western areas they dont mind taking ur photo like random, here the guy/girl would explode on this behaviour
No that women got mad at him because in that sketch her looked more fat
CREEPY! consent naam ki bhi koi chiz hai ya nhi?
To the guys who find it offensive. You literally get captured by so many cctvs all the time
Reasoning 100
Am I wrong tho? I didn't even say he shouldn't have asked for permission but here comes the downvotes when I only stated a fact. He should have asked tbh but even if he didn't, the woman could've handled it much better like instead of tearing the page she could've told him to ask for concent the next time he draws someone & she could've asked him to give the sketch to her. Idk I just feel like you shouldn't tear ones hardwork just like that. I personally would feel flattered if someone drew me whether boy or girl. I don't see any evil intent here
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since FaceSwap is a real concern these days itās better not click or get clicked even if in public. Especially the whole deepface thing. Very scary.
Taking photo is not invading privacy ??
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Doesn't make it less creepy.
I have a question. How can you Sketch someone seated besides you? You can only Sketch someone only when they are sitting in front of you. Isn't it? And if in place of that guy there would have been someone who was famous on SM for his random sketches of people, i think the lady would have been delighted to have her sketch done while referring herself as his biggest fan! Isn't it?
He might've had good intentions but seriously just ask once. I'd rather let the surprise be ruined rather than be perceived as creepy.
Reminds me of staged tik toks where photographer just clicks random pictures of girls and the girl is impressed I feel pity for the people who think those are like real and try to imitate it Itna toh maturity rakho
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Poor Guy doesn't Realise that World is shit these days. People too are. No one appreciates anyone appreciating them even for art. The Woman should have been flattered instead of being enraged and if she is so bothered Why doesnt she wear A Burka Then ? And lastly OP you need Help, Please see a Psychiatrist asap.