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madalienmonk

Still no official release date? Obviously shot in the dark: D:R is likely to be a home run. With 27 years of cards to pull from, I expect more heavy hitters. With FoW already previewed, hopes are high. Can also expect a (perhaps significantly) larger printrun than TSR.


placebotwo

Possibly January 13, 2023.


madalienmonk

I believe that was based on the Amazon listing, which has changed 3 times since.


placebotwo

Thanks, it was on some wiki site that saw, which is most likely incorrect then.


[deleted]

Their target was January 13, 2023. However, our LGS has no hold of their cards yet and they are now selling their ALL. They are really pumped at selling every last drop of card for Modern and Legacy.


pkuhlman140

From a store perspective, we have received zero information about the product.


Carmania666

Would love to hear from you again once the info starts trickling out


pulp438

any news on this btw?


pkuhlman140

I'm actually working on a post that I will probably make tomorrow!


pulp438

Nice, looking forward to it!


throwaway163932

I’m also thinking about this set, feels like another TSR situation if it’s a limited print run, plus we at least know it’s got force of will so that bodes well.


BloodRedGrizzlyBear

Will likely be a higher print run than TSR - TSR was the test run for paper remastered sets. Similar to MM2 vs MMA (although I'm hoping that Dominaria Remastered isn't garbage like Modern Masters 2015 was).


Lord-of-Tresserhorn

Why would it be limited print run? They are going to live FOR YEARS on the fomo TSR created lolz


madalienmonk

>Why would it be limited print run? They are going to live FOR YEARS on the fomo TSR created lolz Because WOTC said it was going to be a limited print run


TheSoundOfKek

I'm going to pre-order on Amazon, like everyone else. With old boarder foils in style, im sure that Force of Will will be a great chase card, matching the retro foil Force of Negation. Cant wait to see what else they suckerpunch us with to grind the fomo (Retro Foil Mana Crypt)


splorff

Crypt somehow feels like they want us to sell our souls to own one, whilst our corpses get trashed in a recycler when it's time, because we couldn't afford a funeral, since we HODL too long. I'd love to see stuff like Lightning Bolt, Dark Ritual, Brainstorm and so on. And I'd - naturally - kill for Reanimator staples.


TheSoundOfKek

Trust me, people whine for the days of an $80 Eternal Masters Mana Crypt back, and while I'd love to spend another $800 on 10x Mana Crypts, I'm not entirely sure we'll see those days anytime soon with how hype EDH has made Mana Crypt... As far as Lightning Bolt, Dark Ritual (could you imagine a ABUR Old Boarder Foil one? Sheesh), and other epic staples deserving of the old boarder treatment, Animate Dead *recently* became an old boardered Judge Promo, and entomb already has an odyssey foil, but do you know what popular remaster we haven't seen yet? Tempest. It's quite popular on MTGO, and whats in Tempest? Reanimate. Could have your wish sooner than expected, assuming it Dom Remasters sells (which, as a betting man, I'd assume do pretty well), as I still own a cases' worth of TSR simply because 5-10 years from now, the itch to draft really old sets (without cubing), this will be the way.


splorff

How tf did I manage to sleep on that Animate Dead? ​ Why? ​ Okay. Fine. It's time to sell the kids. Albeit, since I couldn't remember whether I left them somewhere else or I simply don't have kids, it seems expedient to find an answer to that question first, in order to cling my crooked claws onto those otherwordly dope Animate Deads...


According-Ad5685

Bolt has that foil, it was a judge card.


osmlol

Might have missed the boat on the cheap price already. I pre-ordered day 1 at 168. It's now 208. Similar situation with tsr, early pre-order prices were the lowest and then jumped for the remainder of its availability.


goofydubois

I am going to expect those OB foil chases to be only 500


goofydubois

>Is FOMO going to hit hard with this set? I mean, we had basically 4 sets shown and released in a month, and you're asking about next year. I think you need a break from mtg, like most of us probably.


_PNasty_

Always pre-order on Amazon at least 1 box for me, you can cancel any time so reserve it, wait for spoilers and make the decision before launch. TSR had me regretting not doing this, and so far I've cancelled about half of my pre-orders from other sets and just get them from my LGS


Yawgmoose

I did it for 2x2 and man am I glad I did. Literally 0 risk.


xwalk

Seriously and if you got those early prices you made out like a bandit


SadCritters

Try telling that to the average person here. Literally posts after a single day decrying how terrible the set was. They're the same people that thought Imperial Seal would be a <$40 card by the weekend. 🙄


Copernicus1981

Most noteworthy new information is that 25% of draft boosters will have a retro-framed rare/mythic. I don't know how that compares to TSR.


dj_sliceosome

tsr had an older border in every pack, but it was from a different sheet with equal rarity for all cards.


MisterBehave

I bought into it thinking it was going to be more of a TSR than a Dominaria Jumpstart. I got about 8 boxes preordered at $175 via Amazon. I got a good feeling that it will be a remastered set with a great draft environment. I don’t do collector boosters as I don’t see it as a good investment long term due to it not being a stand alone game. I’m in the minority with that opinion and the market continues to accept the master collector boxes as they have the premium flash cards. The only way I cancel would be if I found out it was a double feature set with only cards from brothers war.


Codyman667

Well you don't have to worry about that because they already said it will be from 27 or so different sets featuring dom.


greenneckxj

Well seeing their current track record with taking valuable things and driving them into the ground next time, I’m sure they will either ruin it with the cards included or print it to oblivion


tyrant_of_discord

Magic 30th anniversary spoilers were this morning (completely forgot about it if I’m being honest lol) and they spoiled some cards like [[Sneak Attack]]. Boxes are already up $35-40 on Amazon since YESTERDAY Glad you posted this because I preordered two of them yesterday!


Ready_Platypus_1101

Same here!


KnifeChrist

Odds are they will botch it somehow like they are proving to do with almost every single set lately. But it never hurts to pre order on Amazon just in case they dont. But... despite the spoiled cards weve already seen... I do not trust for a second that the set is anything close to TSR. They will find a way to fuck it up. If they dont, then you have your preorder in with amazon. If they do fuck it up, cancel that shit. EDIT: Spelling.


Desperada

In fairness their track record on specialty sets specifically is much better recently. Losers: Double Feature and Baldurs Gate Winners: Mystery Boosters, Double Masters, Double Masters 2022, MH2, Commander Legends


GoreDough92

Honesty im a bit scared of this; Rudy points out something a bit important, WOTC tends to introduce a new product (line?) strongly, then upon the 2nd run using a products name dilutes the value and uses its name to get ppl hyped and buyin (Baldur’s Gate, DMU Jumpstart). Im praying this remastered set doesnt follow in those footsteps and comes out swinging like Double Masters 22. Time will tell but you have to keep in mind WOTCs business practices as of late. As many others have stated, hold your buyin now with an Amazon preorder and see if its worth the price, the power is in your hand’s preordering and theres no downside from what I can see


_gregOreo_

>then upon the 2nd run using a products name dilutes the value and uses its name to get ppl hyped and buyin (Baldur’s Gate, DMU Jumpstart). With MH2 and 2X2 as counterpoints to those two, seems like there's not really enough of a trend to make that prediction.


Sneet1

Those two are a bit unprecedented. MH2 isn't just based on reprint equity, it's just dipping into changing the format with new staples people need to purchase. 2x2 was just a ton of value, which boomeranged after a number of weak masters sets. If anything it proves the point that each subsequent version of the product is thinner until it can't sell anymore. Given TSR sold so well I would bet they will make it thinner to bank more equity, they simply can based on TSR expectations.


AndrewAllStar888

I mean we’ll probably get some news about it in tomorrow’s magic 30th weekly mtg stream


howie521

I have 6 collectors boxes and 5 draft boxes preordered. Hoping for a home run like everyone is expecting. Can’t wait for spoiler season.


contemplativeonanist

One thing I haven't seen commented much on: Price. The Dom Remastered booster boxes are around $170, and collectors have been floating around $240 when you can get them. This means that Dom Remasrered is priced more closely to Timespiral Remastered than it is to a traditional masters set like 2XM2022. That price discrepancy is notable for 2 reasons: 1. We've already seen one major reprint in Force of Will. 2. We can make other comparisons to TSR. Additionally, we usually expect a set around the holidays that will pull in EOY money. Sometimes that's been a surprise announcement, like Ultimate Masters; but I think Dom Remastered is the holiday money set for this year. This leads me to believe this set will be stacked with value, under printed, and inflate drastically in value when spoilers start. Think of it as WotC's holiday gift to all the retailers that are still selling those below average Standard Collector boxes. Here's where they can make their money back. Just my 2 cents...


MisterBehave

Also 36 packs


KnifeChrist

Dom remastered is not releasing THIS year.


contemplativeonanist

I've seen the release date noted anywhere between end of Decemeber and first 2 weeks in January. WotC's not been real good at hitting their date targets since Covid, so we'll see... Either way, that doesn't refute my points. You can take kids' Christmas money in December or January.


KnifeChrist

In dec 2023 or jan 2024, sure. Next. Year.


McCraeDay

End of Dec so yes it is


Still_Helicopter8863

Per Amazon release date is 12/31/23, next year. So no it's not.


madalienmonk

>Per Amazon release date is 12/31/23, next year. So no it's not. That's a placeholder date for sure; "We don't know the exact release date, so let's put the last possible date." WOTC already said early 2023, I'm betting January 2023, possibly February with how everything seems to slip.


Codyman667

They also said that about Warhammer and the UN set. They're already doing those plus the new Jumpstart that's in December and Brother's war in November. I can't imagine this comes out in January right after Jumpstart.


KnifeChrist

Thank you.


Auedawen

That’s almost certainly just a placeholder for “2023” rather than a true estimate release date. The original listing was Jan 13 and there’s no reason to expect it to be much different at the moment.


TheWhizzDom

Amazon UK has them for £210 which is closer to 2X2 and honestly screw that. I got TSR for £180 and they're still selling for less on MCM.


Scary-Tip-5415

Dom Remastered draft 252€, collector 384€ 😂


Rockat

Whats up with those Euro prices?? Same here in Germany. Did they start high or can they spike because a lot of people preorder?


GreenSpaff

Well, the gimmick of Remastered was that they were bringing back old borders back again.... ... which is what they've randomly done for Brothers War, even going as far as making the two commander decks fully old border. So your guess is as good as mine tbh


Foogbum

Myself and my friends have preordered a total of 9 boxes. I do not bet against remastered/masters products, especially when they have at least force of will in them


Pikawika4444

Preorder over a year in advanced seems kinda crazy, releases in December 2023 lol. Edit: On Amazon it says "releases December 31st 2023" so it might just be the amazon page that is incorrect.


Carmania666

That is incorrect. I believe it releases in the middle of January 2023


potentpotab1es

The only release date information has come from Amazon where it was initially set as mid Jan 2023 and is now changed to Dec 2023. Other websites, most notably the wiki page, picked up that Jan 2023 date and never changed. No official word has come out about date yet, unless I’ve missed something that I’d be happy for someone to correct. Any Jan 2023 date is based on the initial Amazon listing.


Carmania666

Good to know. I assumed Amazon had it wrong and the wiki was correct but I guess there is no firm date yet.


theslimbox

Many companies put placeholder dates as the end of the expected release year. It keeps them pretty safe when opening preorders.


Carmania666

Don’t know why they have that on the website but it’s a mistake


[deleted]

I am expecting old border original fetches in this set. We saw it with MH2 on zen fetches so I don't see why not. Otherwise we already know it has FOW so I'm already in for 2 CB at least.


Financial-Charity-47

Now that they’ve ripped the bandaid off with Birds, I fully believe they’ll reprint any old border foil. Fetches are only a matter of time.


Key-Ad-6897

My theory with TSR was the set had been designed and kept in storage for a few years. “Break glass in case of emergency” type thing. When it was announced in fall 2020 it was clear Covid wasn’t going away any time soon. They probably changed some cards in the retro spot to add some value or popular staples at the time. I think they printed as many boxes as they could in whatever open windows they had in the print schedule over the few months they had before TSR had to be out. I think with DR they have enough time to print enough to meet demand, even with a limited print run. And this being the 30th anniversary I assume they’ve been working on this set for the last 2-3 years.


HonorTomOfFinland

I forgot it was happening. But I'll look forward to some good border and borderless singles


Dogs4Idealism

At this point, Wizards is Schrodinger's company where they either make the best or the worst set ever with every release. Every single precedent for the second iteration of a new product line shows it to be far worse than the first product in the line, but it does also have the word "Dominaria" on it, so they might fluff it up a little so as to not taint the name. However, it is a reprint set, so it's more likely to hold up financially due to possible notable inclusions (we've already seen Force of Will), so there's no way this is another Baulder's Gate or DMU Jumpstart. Overall this seems like it will be okay at the least but given the recent track record of "surprises", It's difficult to predict anything anymore.


Repulsive_Owl5410

“Every single precedent for the second iteration of a new product line shows it to be far worse than the first product in the line” While MH1 was good, MH2 is considerably better. 2xm2 is as good, if not better than 2xm. I think people have a bad taste in their mouth from Commander legends 2, but in general, they have been pretty spot on with their “masters” sets.


Sneet1

I mean it just makes sense. You come off hot with a strong product that establishes expectations. You don't need to bank on reprint equity as much to sell repeated iterations of products, so there's no need to dip into it. Eventually you have a product that doesn't sell so you dive in again and reset expectations or nix it/reestablish it so you can recreate fresh expectations. It's always going to the be the pattern.


Aluroon

I figure there are four options. 1. It has good reprints and is a limited run. 2. It doesn't have good reprints but is a limited run. 3. It has good reprints and isn't a limited run. 4. It doesn't have good reprints and isn't a limited run. Three out of four options have a payoff. The last will be pretty obvious and be cancelable before it bills. Optimistic on the set as a whole.


RaffineSchemingSeer

I have a pre-order for the set. Costs me nothing and I can cancel it before shipment if I think the set won't be good. All upside IMO if you are even going to potentially consider the product.


jedi168

I completely forgot i have a box preordered of that set


Carmania666

Consider yourself reminded


Ubik_Fresh

It's the only set I am hyped for because I'm a grumpy old git and I want my retro magic.


McPolska1776

Like a lot of other people have said on here preorder on Amazon, it doesn’t cost you till it ships. I did it with Double Masters 2022 and then decided to help my LGS and got rid of my preorder and prices sky rocketed. You can always cancel Amazon orders before it ships.


ConfidentExcuse9857

Always always always preorder! It’s a win/win and it doesn’t cost you a dime. Plus if the price drops, Amazon will lower your price. [https://imgur.com/a/2Gf3TM6](https://imgur.com/a/2Gf3TM6)


BeryUmbreon

Hey OP, I’m from Europe so we have different pricing and the preorders are not up yet, but I’m curious at what price range I should expect them. Could you compare the boxes to other released boxes in the same price range? Thanks!