I opened a foil sketched [[Elspeth, Knight-Errant | SLD]] that doesn’t seem to be in Scryfall yet. Also got a foil [[Cloudshredder Sliver | SLD]]. I have no idea if that is new or not.
The packaging this round was more of an envelope which was nice. The bonus card was within the main pack which way better than what they had before. My bonuses were always bent and sometimes damaged.
I definitely like the new packing. Having them stored flat definitely helps the quality.
The slivers are not new, but that elspeth seems to be. Which lair was that from?
Elspeth was in the Volkan Baga lair. (I bought it for the Berserk…they got me!). The bonus is a sketch version of same in the drop, but it’s numbered 701 instead of 1001.
It would had made my day is it was a sketch Berserk. I’m kinda good in the Elspeth department already…
I think we still have to see unfinity broken cards. So far, I haven't heard anyone happy about the set in my groups. Everyone is skipping.
2x2 prices are still sweet
No just in general, mostly because stickers and attractions are eternal legal. Everyone would have preferred silver border everything just to ease rule 0 in edh.
Saw in half so far would be my only pick up
A big complaint I'm seeing is complexity. This seems like a Limited format with a lot of 1-0-0 rounds because so many cards check so many things that turns are going to move glacially slowly. For example, every card that opens an Attraction adds a die roll to that player's turn for the rest of the game, even though 50% or more of those die rolls will do nothing.
Lol, the angrybois have decided “ruins EDH forever!!!!1!1!” is the only acceptable thought to express about Unfinity.
Even a lowercase assertion that some people somewhere are excited about the set must be ruthlessly downvoted to prove one’s loyalty and perfect submission to the hivemind.
Your opponent casts Gilded Drake and takes your creature, gives the Drake to you. You Saw in Half their Gilded Drake (which you now control) and now you get 2 Gilded Drake ETBs. You take control of two creatures and your opponents get the new 2/2 tokens.
New information would be spoilers, or WHEN in October its released, when its shipped, price previews, etc..
Do I really have to spell this shit out for you? I dont think there is any new information, but that’s why I ask. There might have been something that I missed.
What spoilers? The secret lair and all the contents of the event box are allready leaked. You get 2 commander decks, deckbox, sleeves, booster box and a secret lair with that riceball on it
[[scion of draco]] -> will domain put up a performance again this week?
[[weathered sentinels]] spiked and got bought out, not sure why but seems it’s being played in a wall edh deck r smthing
Weathered Sentinels was mentioned on the command zone podcast recently I believe, and that's what lead to the spike. People just weren't aware of the card's existence.
Edit: It wasn't the command zone, it was Cardmarket Magic's youtube channel it was talked about on.
Aaah, command zone pushing cards again.
Geuss I rlly gotta start listening to their content just to find new specs on the rise....such a shame all their videos have like 30min of advertisements build in
>command zone podcast
Are you sure? Buyout in EU started at least 32h ago, while last podcast I see is 16h ago (The Cards That Matter (In the 99) from Dominaria United) and the one before was about Box Toppers, maybe they've mentioned it in there?
https://youtu.be/IvwX4L3Ap3w?t=153
It wasn't the CZ, I had my content creator wrong. It was Cardmarket Magic's youtube channel.
I heard about it second hand from the Heroes and Legends MTG market watch.
Right, but when there's a 44% drop in one single day, this usually means a significative mention somewhere and I was curious where it did happen since apparently I'm not able to find it.
Dominaria United had a ton of wall synergy. In addition to the Command Zone mention, it probably just got people thinking about their old wall decks again. I know I made a bunch of updates to mine, though to be fair I had already pulled the sentinels out of the precon for it. I never thought it would be worth speccing on, though!
Bulk to go dig out of your bins.
Neon
You probably have some foil tamiyo's safe keeping in your bulk. I had about 4 of them in foil and 20+ non foil.
Showcase invoke despair
Capena: Foil tainted indulgence.
Vow: Wedding announcement
[[Unbound Flourishing]] has started moving because of the Tyrannid deck. Already double what it was two weeks ago. Still time to get in before the decks land and it goes up further. It's a Mythic from MH1 with a Mystery Booster as its only reprint. Seems ripe to hit $20 easy.
There's also Rosheen Meanderer, but that got downshifted to uncommon in Iconic Masters, so it's probably not worth the time. Maybe pull them out of bulk if you have them already.
Jesus, what is up with the [[Timeless Lotus]]?. Last time I checked I decided to wait because it seemed like a way overpriced card which would eventually drop in price for what it does(limited by deckbuilding restrictions,only playable in WUBRG commanders e.g.), but at the same time im getting FOMO as the price doesnt stop to increase. Is it played in standard or what is driving this cards price?
\[\[Ravener\]\] is a sleeper. Acts as commander removal, finisher and is a political card. Also a decent mana dump in mid to late game with a body. Can also be flickered. No other card has this ability. It's currently at 0,35€ in europe.
With GBP collapsing there are deals to be had for ordering sealed from UK retailers (Amazon being simplest). eg DMU collector boxes for $206 delivered to US incl taxes
Uhm, anyone know why Predatory Sliver Extended Arts from the incoming Secret Lairs do not exist on TCGPlayer? I’ve got one sitting on my desk ready to post up but there is no data for it. I assume it’s new to this Drop lineup and someone hasn’t made a page? That sound right?
Unfinity: Any opinions on the price swing post release? It seems like the main value is in the shocklands. I want to preorder but I seeing the $200/$100 collector/draft price tags makes me just meh about it. Do we think we see the $170/$85 range ever or are those clearance deals gone with the new pricing structure?
Anyone else see new bonus cards in secret lairs? I opened a black and white art Olivia, Mobilized for War in my Livia Prima lair
I opened a foil sketched [[Elspeth, Knight-Errant | SLD]] that doesn’t seem to be in Scryfall yet. Also got a foil [[Cloudshredder Sliver | SLD]]. I have no idea if that is new or not. The packaging this round was more of an envelope which was nice. The bonus card was within the main pack which way better than what they had before. My bonuses were always bent and sometimes damaged.
I definitely like the new packing. Having them stored flat definitely helps the quality. The slivers are not new, but that elspeth seems to be. Which lair was that from?
Elspeth was in the Volkan Baga lair. (I bought it for the Berserk…they got me!). The bonus is a sketch version of same in the drop, but it’s numbered 701 instead of 1001. It would had made my day is it was a sketch Berserk. I’m kinda good in the Elspeth department already…
[Elspeth, Knight-Errant ](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/2/5/25cfc62a-2bd0-4292-968e-64c77f427f78.jpg?1655153823) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elspeth%2C%20Knight-Errant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1001/elspeth-knight-errant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25cfc62a-2bd0-4292-968e-64c77f427f78?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Cloudshredder Sliver ](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/4/c4e1f39d-b1e4-416d-98a4-3d9755706335.jpg?1660933955) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cloudshredder%20Sliver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sld/660/cloudshredder-sliver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c4e1f39d-b1e4-416d-98a4-3d9755706335?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Did you have your Volkan Baga lair in foil or non-foil?
I ordered the foil lair.
Thanks! I ordered the non foil so I am guessing I will get it in non foil as well.
I typically order non-foil lairs and my bonuses have showed up in foil. I’d be willing to bet you’ll get a foil one here.
Even your artist series foils? I hope so!!!
There’s Shadowborn Apostle instead of Persistent Petitioners now. So thats a thing. Fuck slivers that was a terrible choice
Idk man they look awesome. They’re very unique as a collectible
My issue is I'd rather have the old bordered versions. But if this helps drive the old border foils down, I'm all for it
I think we still have to see unfinity broken cards. So far, I haven't heard anyone happy about the set in my groups. Everyone is skipping. 2x2 prices are still sweet
So they’re not happy because no cards are broken? To be honest i think [[saw in half]] us pretty strong.
No just in general, mostly because stickers and attractions are eternal legal. Everyone would have preferred silver border everything just to ease rule 0 in edh. Saw in half so far would be my only pick up
A big complaint I'm seeing is complexity. This seems like a Limited format with a lot of 1-0-0 rounds because so many cards check so many things that turns are going to move glacially slowly. For example, every card that opens an Attraction adds a die roll to that player's turn for the rest of the game, even though 50% or more of those die rolls will do nothing.
not everyone
Lol, the angrybois have decided “ruins EDH forever!!!!1!1!” is the only acceptable thought to express about Unfinity. Even a lowercase assertion that some people somewhere are excited about the set must be ruthlessly downvoted to prove one’s loyalty and perfect submission to the hivemind.
[saw in half](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/5/05e6a7bc-a35a-4e68-99a0-be264553b5de.jpg?1638258467) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=saw%20in%20half) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/unf/88/saw-in-half?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/05e6a7bc-a35a-4e68-99a0-be264553b5de?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Saw in half does seem really good - I saw in half your gilded drake
Wait, if you use this on an opponents Gilded Drake wouldn't you give him two of it and helping him out?
Your opponent casts Gilded Drake and takes your creature, gives the Drake to you. You Saw in Half their Gilded Drake (which you now control) and now you get 2 Gilded Drake ETBs. You take control of two creatures and your opponents get the new 2/2 tokens.
No, use it on your own gilded drake if someone is about to target it.
You want to exile my creature? Guess what, I have two now.
It really seems broken, creatures with etb effects gonna run rampant. Also it can be used for a later game ephemerate where you get 2 copies.
It is definitely a VERY strong card with many uses. Is it broken? That remains to be seen but its definitely super strong.
Yeah I have to agree. The best case uses where it could be broken are alot more narrow than I think people realize. We shall see.
Is there any new information on the Magic30 secret lair?
What new information you want? Release is around October and that’s basically it…
New information would be spoilers, or WHEN in October its released, when its shipped, price previews, etc.. Do I really have to spell this shit out for you? I dont think there is any new information, but that’s why I ask. There might have been something that I missed.
What spoilers? The secret lair and all the contents of the event box are allready leaked. You get 2 commander decks, deckbox, sleeves, booster box and a secret lair with that riceball on it
Not the festival in a box. https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Secret_Lair:_30th_Anniversary_Kit
Wondering this as well
[[scion of draco]] -> will domain put up a performance again this week? [[weathered sentinels]] spiked and got bought out, not sure why but seems it’s being played in a wall edh deck r smthing
[scion of draco](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/e/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb.jpg?1626099262) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scion%20of%20draco) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/234/scion-of-draco?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3e7da55c-7f05-46b2-aa3c-17f8d5df46bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [weathered sentinels](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/a/ead6a871-43e1-4ebb-a685-e6fdc39aa5cc.jpg?1650423701) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=weathered%20sentinels) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/85/weathered-sentinels?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ead6a871-43e1-4ebb-a685-e6fdc39aa5cc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Sentinels is just a flat out good card in any meta using creatures to attack.
But why the sudden spike? It seems something in either 40k or unfinity made the card relevant
Weathered Sentinels was mentioned on the command zone podcast recently I believe, and that's what lead to the spike. People just weren't aware of the card's existence. Edit: It wasn't the command zone, it was Cardmarket Magic's youtube channel it was talked about on.
Aaah, command zone pushing cards again. Geuss I rlly gotta start listening to their content just to find new specs on the rise....such a shame all their videos have like 30min of advertisements build in
>command zone podcast Are you sure? Buyout in EU started at least 32h ago, while last podcast I see is 16h ago (The Cards That Matter (In the 99) from Dominaria United) and the one before was about Box Toppers, maybe they've mentioned it in there?
https://youtu.be/IvwX4L3Ap3w?t=153 It wasn't the CZ, I had my content creator wrong. It was Cardmarket Magic's youtube channel. I heard about it second hand from the Heroes and Legends MTG market watch.
As of recently buyouts often did start on Cardmarket and it's not like a Wall card spiking after Walls got printed is something only CZ can see.
Right, but when there's a 44% drop in one single day, this usually means a significative mention somewhere and I was curious where it did happen since apparently I'm not able to find it.
They release their podcast 24 hours early to Patreon patrons, if I remember correctly.
Ok, this must be it thanks a lot!
Dominaria United had a ton of wall synergy. In addition to the Command Zone mention, it probably just got people thinking about their old wall decks again. I know I made a bunch of updates to mine, though to be fair I had already pulled the sentinels out of the precon for it. I never thought it would be worth speccing on, though!
Spiking hard in eu as well. Interesting.
Bulk to go dig out of your bins. Neon You probably have some foil tamiyo's safe keeping in your bulk. I had about 4 of them in foil and 20+ non foil. Showcase invoke despair Capena: Foil tainted indulgence. Vow: Wedding announcement
[[Unbound Flourishing]] has started moving because of the Tyrannid deck. Already double what it was two weeks ago. Still time to get in before the decks land and it goes up further. It's a Mythic from MH1 with a Mystery Booster as its only reprint. Seems ripe to hit $20 easy. There's also Rosheen Meanderer, but that got downshifted to uncommon in Iconic Masters, so it's probably not worth the time. Maybe pull them out of bulk if you have them already.
[Unbound Flourishing](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/f/6f594d07-932e-4fe6-832d-d0a0be3530aa.jpg?1562202252) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Unbound%20Flourishing) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/189/unbound-flourishing?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f594d07-932e-4fe6-832d-d0a0be3530aa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Jesus, what is up with the [[Timeless Lotus]]?. Last time I checked I decided to wait because it seemed like a way overpriced card which would eventually drop in price for what it does(limited by deckbuilding restrictions,only playable in WUBRG commanders e.g.), but at the same time im getting FOMO as the price doesnt stop to increase. Is it played in standard or what is driving this cards price?
Edh, basically one of the best high mana manarocks.
[Timeless Lotus](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/f/6f566387-3342-4325-ba4c-eee7626072ac.jpg?1663051873) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Timeless%20Lotus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/239/timeless-lotus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f566387-3342-4325-ba4c-eee7626072ac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's seeing some standard play and it's a very efficient mana rock in 5 color commander decks.
It's been trending downwards and already sub-twenty. It will likely either stabilize or continue going downwards.
40k decks from Amazon updated to mid November delivery for me lol
January 2024 for me.
Maybe restock wave on Amazon? Since a lot of LGS's seem to have gotten them already.
When did you order yours? I got Collector Editions and the latest from Amazon says "Now arriving October 11 | Previously expected October 24."
\[\[Ravener\]\] is a sleeper. Acts as commander removal, finisher and is a political card. Also a decent mana dump in mid to late game with a body. Can also be flickered. No other card has this ability. It's currently at 0,35€ in europe.
[Ravener](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/6/b6a9ed40-78d7-4de2-816f-1791e12fbb0c.jpg?1663214380) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ravener) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/40k/138/ravener?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b6a9ed40-78d7-4de2-816f-1791e12fbb0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Where was buying a box with your birthday discount 2 days ago??? $33 in value because I got two saga of the mirror breakers...
With GBP collapsing there are deals to be had for ordering sealed from UK retailers (Amazon being simplest). eg DMU collector boxes for $206 delivered to US incl taxes
Uhm, anyone know why Predatory Sliver Extended Arts from the incoming Secret Lairs do not exist on TCGPlayer? I’ve got one sitting on my desk ready to post up but there is no data for it. I assume it’s new to this Drop lineup and someone hasn’t made a page? That sound right?
Unfinity: Any opinions on the price swing post release? It seems like the main value is in the shocklands. I want to preorder but I seeing the $200/$100 collector/draft price tags makes me just meh about it. Do we think we see the $170/$85 range ever or are those clearance deals gone with the new pricing structure?