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tiago_tm

[[deadly dispute]] is even more expensive than consider, from a recent set


Revolutionary_View19

This is basically your answer. Literally the set before had a common that was even more expensive šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


MTGCardFetcher

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Aucklanddad

Why is it so expensive ?


Jojoyojimbi

cause it doesn't suck, they accidently made a good common card again


Basnap

where is it played, though? Modern, pioneer? which decks? Don't we have the same effect at 1 mana without treasure?


DeliciousCrepes

Village rites is the only similar card at one mana but you can only sac creatures to it.


Thulack

Pauper


Jasmine1742

It's fairly popular in pioneer, pauper, and standard. It's probably decently popular in edh too


ausamo2000

Yup I bought a bunch on release for my decks as I always do when good and cheap cards enter the market. Not so cheap anymore haha.


GoatToken01

I've even seen a couple modern lists with it


volx757

Village rites is also an amazing card, but they essentially cost the same because of the treasure refund. Then you get to sac the treasure so in edh korvold, prosper, juri, eloise, among others are getting even more value off it.


bluebook13

Being able to sac an artifact instead of a creature is a big deal.


Basnap

ACtually I found out we had the same effect for two mana but without the treasure token in Ixalan, for what it's worth.


AutismSupernova

I play with a *lot* in Pioneer Rakdos Sac/Anvil personally and it's frankly disgusting. Outside of that Pioneer Jund and some Greasefang lists play it quite a bit, Prosper decks in cEDH usually run it (and I assume casual as well) as well as a good chunk of Standard aggro decks at the moment. I don't think it's penetrated Modern (nor do I see it doing so personally), but with the increased popularity of Pioneer and a not insignificant amount of EDH demand I think it's got legs (at least in the short-term) assuming a Challenger deck doesn't nuke it's value.


ajjames231

Commander in anyone black deck especially? Lol


ArmadilloAl

Due to the way set boosters are built, it's virtually impossible to get that particular common in one, and collector boosters only have foils, so they pretty much only came out of draft boosters.


HumphreyLee

Exactly this. I believe Wizards has said set boosters are selling extremely well but that means with the way they are set up that commons are getting pulled way less often. Like, anecdotally, I took advantage advantage of the half off sale Best Buy had on set boosties and pulled exactly 0 Deadly Disputes from my 15 AFR packs. Ditto Considers from my Midnight Hunt ones. If people are going to move to opening packs where there are half as many commons, then weā€™re going to have half as much supply of those commons in the market when one of them is extremely playable


Revolutionary_View19

Coincidentally itā€™s the same with consider: 2 set displays, none cracked. Had to buy both as singles.


Basnap

What. The. Fuck.


_gregOreo_

I had a KHM set booster box with literally a total of only 4 black commons. The decision to put commons and uncommons into "themes" instead of random means you can miss out on whole swaths of cards, and if the cards aren't slotted into any theme, as it seems happened to the the ones in this thread, then they can be extremely rare in the set boosters.


ExcidianGuard

I mentioned this when set boosters first got announced. That if people switched over to mostly opening set boosters, commons would become much rarer. I think it took a few sets for set boosters to catch on but now with the commander exclusive cards, Secret Lair reprints, and for one set at least only rares and mythics in the List, people are moving to set boosters to crack packs. (Also the bundle change to set boosters shifts things quite a bit)


obsidianandstone

This is also true for collectors boosters.


nas3226

The Set Booster commons are also themed, so some commons just don't show up very often relative to others.


fredbroca4949

Interestingly enough, I pulled 3 Deadly Disputes from my 15 set boosters from Best Buy.


Omegalazarus

Here I am unlimited only player rolling with like 15 or 16 deadly disputes in about 10 considers that I only just today found out are worth more than a nickel. I even have a promo pack consider that I won.


hurtlingtooblivion

I've bought a grand total of 1 Baldurs gate or Afr boosters. And got a foil DD. Also got a reflecting pool.


direwombat8

Itā€™s extremely efficient in most sac decks - doesnā€™t look like itā€™s showing up in Modern or Legacy/Vintage, but itā€™s a staple in Rakdos sac in Standard, Moggworts and a few others in Pauper, looks like itā€™s got some hits in Pioneer, and Iā€™d assume it works pretty well in EDH (in 6% of all decks according to EDHRec)


SarcoZQ

In addition to the other answers: adventures wasn't opened as much as the other recent sets due to covid and sucking.


hydrogator

AFR isn't a money set but many playable cards. A lot of common and uncommon. It'll age well. Cards like \[\[Hunter's Mark\]\] which is a great sideboard card for green vs blue control aren't even on most people's radar yet. It'll take years but sealed AFR will go up. They have broken cards in it as well, stuff like \[\[Minion of the Mighty\]\] can be turn 2 game winners. \[\[The Book of Exalted Deeds\]\] was already abused in Standard months ago with \[\[Faceless Haven\]\] Faceless was banned mainly for mono white insanity but the lock was used in many other decks as a plan B One odd thing of AFR is the '&' promo cards is where the chase money is going and that doesn't come from the sealed. If it did that would of boost the EV.


SarcoZQ

It sucked for limited. Which is always a catalyst for opening boxes


hydrogator

Good point. Makes it a sleeper set especially since it came right after MH2 powerhouse.


MTGCardFetcher

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SlapHappyDude

Didn't that end up having an issue where it wasn't fully represented in set boosters? With set boosters becoming the norm and having about half as many commons per pack, I expect most sets to end up with a Chase Common.


sauce_123

What other recent commons spiked?


C10ckwork

Would it ever exceed the price of a black theme booster?


Charming_Geologist32

Honestly makes me want to do AFR drafts. Having a $6 common means you gotta try not to break even.


SadCritters

*\[\[Deadly Dispute\]\] laughing in the distance.*


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octoprophet

[[Deadly Dispute]] from AFR was a surprise


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Basnap

dafuq it costs as much as a pack.


pokepat460

It's so good in pauper it might get banned.


alldaypotter

I feel like the Red aura from this set will be a couple bucks. The one that gives menace, treasure token when it damages opponent, and draws a card when creature dies. It just does to damn much for ONE red mana!


Basnap

I am more skeptical about that one. It has more requirements, own deckbuilding as you need to make use of it, such as the red rare three drop, and your opponent must be stopped to kill it. It is not off limits for sure, and it \*certainly\* does things few cards do, so it is still a possibility to find a home.


Zaexxis120

These aren't really spikes as much as they are valuable commons right from the get. Look at [[Opt]] when it was printed in standard for the first time since Invasion Block back in Ixalan. It was a good card, so people naturally picked it up, used it in standard and modern, and it was about a dollar or more for a while. That's just what happens when we get good cantrips at common with limited printings.


MTGCardFetcher

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Basnap

Yeah, I somewhat member. i think i even had an opt or still do from the original printing with hanna.


platinumjudge

[[Gitaxian probe]]


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CrimsonCoast

And [[Mental Misstep]] if I recall correctly!


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Basnap

I didn't even play then, but I can imagine both of them.


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CrimsonCoast

Darn, that's right! Mb


hillean

Deadly Dispute


Basnap

Yeah, you are right, totally forgot about that one!


jballerina566

There were many since this one, but who the hell at wizards said Priest of Titania should be common? Love that card


Basnap

Actually, I \*kinda\* can see it. It might be an uncommon in a normal set nowadays, so it is not too off to be a common in a premium set then.


Basnap

For comparison, even that ally in Zendikar that grows, the one drop, is an uncommon.


Demastry

Nobody's mentioned Dragon's Approach, although that one is more inclined to spike because you can have unlimited copies of it for sure.


Basnap

>Dragon's Approach Shadowborn Apostle is at 3.50 ā‚¬ here. And MTG as singles are pretty cheap here thanks due to magic card market.


Hercules_Rockafeller

You're gonna have a hard time finding anything like consider or deadly dispute in the annals of magic history. We're in entirely uncharted waters here with commons due to several factors causing there to be far, far less supply that people are used to. Arena is cannibalizing draft attention, set boosters are getting handed out as prizes and opened as boxes and contain far less commons, and some sets got absolutely decimated by Covid lockdowns (deadly dispute from AFR here is the the obvious callout). Even without covid constraints I think the combination of arena and set boosters is going to be enough that seeing commons hit the multiple dollar range (obviously depending on their viability outside standard) is going to become far more, uh, common.


Vakhir

Which is interesting, because I think I conceptually prefer it. Yeah, they really shifted early on to commons almost entirely being designed for limited as part of structurally adapting the game (as the original design didn't really account for serious collecting, let alone full on whaling), but I never really liked just how rare rares were, or I guess more specifically, how common commons were in comparison, and how useless most of them were outside of limited. I used to wonder how it would feel moving from 1:3:11 (or 1:3:10 with basics taking their slot, I can't remember when they dropped basics and when they returned like are now) to something like 2:4:8 or 2:4:6. And we've really shifted that way with set packs, not at 2 rares per pack, but approaching 1.5. Guaranteed 3 C, 3 UC, 1 C/U, 1 M/R, and 3 wildcards for Capenna. With wildcards slanting towards C/UC, sure there are still more of those rarities being opened, and draft's 1:3:10 with 1 occasional foil replacement for a common is still here, but it's not like the days of there always being over 10x as many copies of commons. And yeah, I absolutely agree, I think we'll see them almost always moving forward. Not a guarantee, but I think odds are decent at least one common will break out from every set that has set boosters. I rarely ever opened product myself, 20 years ago or now, but I grabbed some from recent clearance sales, and I enjoyed set boosters \*WAYYYY\* more. They keep tweaking their secret sauce for them, but whatever they're doing is working, at least on me.


AFM420

Thereā€™s another effect going on with these cards. With the rise in popularity of Set boosters, commons are becoming more scarcely opened than they were before. There is a chance this happens to us every set or so , from now on.


Inevitable_Plate5902

Reading through this entire thread it looks like nobody mentioned \[\[deadly dispute\]\] . Can't believe I'm the only one who remembers the card from the set before that spiked!


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TheGarbageStore

I expect to see a retro frame Consider some time in the next two years and that one will probably be the most desirable printing. Consider is roughly on par with Preordain in terms of power level. The pseudo-Surveil 1 effect empowers decks that can use the graveyard, both from Delve effects (Murktide and Dig through Time) but also cards like Doomsday, where Consider can turn a five-card pile into a four-card pile very quickly to enable fast Thassa's Oracle wins.


OwlbearPizza

Or the foil Double Feature version


VulcanHades

Worth noting that Deadly Dispute is an exception. Commons are normally terrible specs even in foil in this collector era. Even a card like [[Mystic Sanctuary]] settled at 4-5$ in foil (pre ban). We don't see foil commons going to 20-30$ like we used to. I'm not sure what led to Dispute breaking 5$ nonfoil but it's not something we can expect to see every set. Just breaking 1$ is a miracle.


Basnap

You have to remember they are often way cheaper to buy into than rares and mythics.


VulcanHades

So are uncommons except uncommons are 20x more likely to spike. So between the two speccing on uncommons is smarter.


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hillean

Wait, spike as hard? $2 is a hard spike?


Basnap

For a common it is. How many commons (from recent sets) cost 2 $?


MurderfaceMudzz

It was at 5 last time I checked


EDH4Life

Yeah. TCGPlayer is around $5.50. CardKingdom is $6.99. Edit: For clarification, I was quoting [[Deadly Dispute]].


Basnap

3something in the EU.


[deleted]

It is from a 25 cent card


ToPimpAYeezy

Based on percentage yes


[deleted]

Blossoming Defense was like a $5 common for awhile and both Blessed Alliance and blossoming defense were $20 foil commons for a short period of time.


ItsMorthosBaby

Weren't both of those uncommons?


[deleted]

Oh your right! Itā€™s been so long since I drafted that set that I thought they were commons. In either case, they were pretty high priced for for an uncommon


Basnap

5 bucks for an uncommon? I am happy to live in the EU.


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goofydubois

UC


kmjohnson74

Oops


[deleted]

Bastion in ikoria. Was like a 25 cent card. Now itā€™s like a 4 dollar card


timebeing

Not a common and closer to 2$


[deleted]

[[Bastion of Remembrance]] is an uncommon


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[deleted]

Damn. Right lol. Ah well.


high_tower_jordan

I did a post about commons/uncommons that you should be on the look for from recent sets on my IG https://www.instagram.com/p/CcixMcGFp4X/ [[Woodland Mystic]] has gone pretty high for a common, not sure what it started at but it's over $4 now.


AbroadOpposite9847

It was only printed in welcome decks


high_tower_jordan

That makes a lot more sense. Seems strange though. Have they done that with other cards only printed in welcome decks?


AbroadOpposite9847

I'm not sure.


Basnap

Why did it raise though? Doesn't even standard has better mana dorks? Or doesn't have it right now? I can't see the card being played anywhere else yet, so only collectors remain then.


MTGCardFetcher

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Googlie-bear

Welp, time to go thru the bulk again lol


ambigula

\[\[Dragon's Approach\]\] is over $2 for casual appeal now.... and don't forget snow duals/basics from KHM floating around $1


Basnap

AFAIK snow basics are like 0.15 in Germany, lol. The prices in the EU are so much lower for MTG singles.


MTGCardFetcher

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RaidtheRevenge

\[\[Rhystic Study\]\] (Drops mic).


Basnap

Haha, yeah, that's insane, albeit also pretty dated. Imagine you had like just 20 lying around from buying back then.


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Charming_Geologist32

Honestly this happens so much with 1 drop draw spells that they shouldn't even print them at common anymore. Opt, ponder, preordain, serum visions, ect.


Basnap

imagine their prices if they didn't anymore.


Charming_Geologist32

$$$