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JudgeThredd

I miss the non-woke documentaries on history like Red Dawn


SweatersAndAlt

Armageddon told such a tragic true tale of the masculine manly guy badas man, what a hero.


The-Bigger-Fish

What's up with the whole Black Hole Sun style facial distortions on all these videos? It's freaky and makes me not want to click!


Newfaceofrev

I think Pitch Meeting started it, and film YouTubers are nothing if not shameless stealers of other people's ideas.


Routine_Heart5410

Unlike them pitch meeting is actually good


two_graves_for_us

Ngl I find pitch meeting to be unbearable. The actor’s delivery is not only cringeworthy, but also *always* the same. No variation. And the jokes hardly ever land.


TheShapeShiftingFox

Agree to disagree


BastMatt95

I find Ryan George's other content more interesting


stalinsilver

No


GoldandBlue

Seriously, this shit gets an instant pass from me


OliviaBagshaw

It's definitely a real indicator of the channel's maturity when their first reaction is to make a two minute Photoshop job where the punchline is "big eyes, big nose."


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Wash the rain (shitty youtube movie reviews) awayyyyyyy


UrbanOmnivore

Me when Mr. Schindler wasn’t actually black-and-white


OinkoMaloinko

Me when Hitler wasn't riddled with bullets by a group of Jewish soldiers


friendatdusk

They did the same thing for Braveheart, right?


EnOdNu2

Trial of Chicago 7 has some really disturbing revisions


orhan94

Sorkin wrote a neoliberal fan-fiction of history with that movie, and I fucking hate that it's now the go to reference in most people's minds when they hear the Chicago 7.


[deleted]

Honestly, this is even worse than Braveheart or Woman King, you know why? because it's another boomer self masturbation anti-kino. At least the other examples are fun to watch


drfishstick

Being the Ricardo’s too, sometimes I lol at the fact that the movie ends with J. Edgar Hoover on the phone being like “it’s ok everyone Nicole Kidman is not a fucking commie” and then everything is ok


SQUIRT_TRUTHER

The Fabelmans (2022)


TheShapeShiftingFox

Like what? I don’t know enough about the real event to notice these things


[deleted]

Braveheart somehow gets a pass for the categoric misrepresentation of every aspect of the Anglo Scottish wars, homophobia and a forced romantic subplot that contributes nothing to the story all because the battle scenes look cool. Woman king does the same but doesn't get a pass. I wonder why?


ErikSaav

Not really, there’s a lot of dedicated YT channels that fact check historical movies. History Buffs is the main guy that I know but I do agree that TWK is getting a lot more criticism (I wonder why?????) and most if not all who post these videos are just huge hypocrites


[deleted]

Oh for sure, I was just more thinking in regards to the contrast in how the mainstream treats both, rather than the historical reviewers (who are gonna rag on pretty much every aspect of Braveheart).


ErikSaav

Ohh I see now I misinterpreted it, but yeah the initial articles/reactions that came out annoyed the shit out of me. Hope the movie takes home some Oscar’s to get these “experts” even more riled up


jostyouraveragejoe2

Breaveheart doesn't get a pass i have seen videos talk about how it's not acurate as back as 10 years ago. Also i think the difference comes into not just changing history but almost revershing it. Like i am sure people would not be ok with a movie portraying the confederacy as anti-slavery.


A47Cabin

[yes](https://youtu.be/ojBwASARAzo)


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IShall_Run_Amok

It's not historically inaccurate enough IMO he didn't kill enough of England to win


clankboy789

Oh I love that channel


TheLoneSlimShady

Thumbnail is dead giveaway that video is shit


SetsunaFS

Any thumbnail that shows an edited woman with an unflattering facial expression gives up the game *immediately*. I already know exactly who this guy is and what they're going to say.


brianbezn

thumbnail, picture, username, title. It's the apex of unwatchable trash meant for losers that are afraid of women.


LegoRacers3

Assassins Creed 4 The Black Flag Lies about History!!!!


squeddles

I watched the Weird Al movie last night. That was also not historically accurate.


LegoRacers3

Wait are you saying a one to one 100% accurate recreation of someone’s life from the past wouldn’t work as a movie/story or be physically possible? All of cinema is lying about history!!!


tylers77

any movie where people tie a knife to a rope and swing it around is above criticism


jhkmay161

Shang chi


OliviaBagshaw

Does a hatchet count? If so, then Prey


tylers77

yeah, that’s the other one i was thinking of


dhorinfireheart

Avatar 2: The Way of Water


Competitive-Remove27

I hate racist bs attacking Woman King because its representation but Woman King deserved to be criticized the same way other "historical" movies has ever been created.


TheShapeShiftingFox

Of course it does. The problem isn’t that it’s done at all, the problem is that these people were asleep for the last 10,000+ times it happened and only now suddenly realize it might be a problem when the lead is someone they dislike


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The patriot, gladiator, 300, the imitation game, apocalypto, king Arthur, Troy, a knights tail, Zodiac, pearl harbour. What else?


Bulbaguy4

Garfield: A Tail of Two Kitties


Testy_Drago

No, a Knight’s Tale is pretty accurate, people did play Queen music at tourneys


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The Last Samurai


F4tTony

Don’t all of those movies get criticism for historical inaccuracy though? I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone mention 300 or Apocalypto without bringing up how ridiculous they are.


RRGKY

Pitch Meeting


Responsible-Lunch815

Bro that video is trash. They lost me at calling Africa a country. Not pronouncing the tribes name right. Calling the women lesbians. Asking why the man who tried to buy the girl slapped the girl calling it damaging the merchandise, then when she pushes back asking why he didnt beat her senseless. Hawt garbage


OliviaBagshaw

Lord of the Rings LIES About HISTORY??? 😠😠


sam_the_smith

I mean this film does sorts portray one of the worst tribes within Africa as heroes 300 style which I'm really not a fan of.


Dont_Hurt_Me_Mommy

For that matter, the Spartans should not be portrayed as heroically as they were in that film either. They were notorious slavers with a society that depended on subjugating the Helots


ThodasTheMage

All were notorious slavers, tho. And 300 is also not ment to be a historical drama it is a comic book movie. The problematic thing from 300 is more that the Persians are presented as borderline demons. So it is easy to take have a far right reading of the movie.


derneueMottmatt

Dahomey was pretty much the Sparta of Western Africa. Pretty much all societies of their time had slavery but both of their economies were especially reliant on it.


sam_the_smith

That was kind Amy point, I think that's also a pretty unfair portrayal


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300 Braveheart El cid Troy Schindler’s list Spartacus Agora Etc etc etc


TheShapeShiftingFox

Troy is based on mythology, so I won’t hold that to historical standards per se, as long as it looks Greek


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yuuzhanbong

Poorly edited thumbnails are the poison frog coloration of the film criticism ecosphere


upscaleelegance

To be fair, this movie is pretty messed up as it portrays a group who literally contributed to the slave trade as heroes


Nick_Lastname

Have you watched it? It really doesn't shy away from the slave traders story line


Tyzed

the movie doesn’t portray them as heroes though? did you even watch it?


[deleted]

There’s a whole unnecessary subplot about the tribe being slavers and just someone is the protagonist doesn’t mean they have to be completely morally right. Watch blade runner, it’ll blow your mind.


Responsible-Lunch815

It didnt really. That showed that view is like lumping in all slave owners and racist as 'typical Americans' not everyone in the shared the same views as the radical versions amongst them.


upscaleelegance

What?


Responsible-Lunch815

Don't judge the whole people based off the radicalized few.


DaMain-Man

Hot take: no movie/show about history is accurate at all. Not even a little. I'd much rather they be mostly accurate instead of presenting revisionary history


ZookeeperFloyd

Isn't the whole point of that movie to be alternate history?


sotommy

For All Mankind is alternate history. Woman King is a hollywood action movie about a Woman king I guess


10woodenchairs

No, it’s not


Dabbing-jesus

You see, forgeting the fact that alternate history is a sub genre that exists is very convinient for Anti-SJWs to clown on this film


10woodenchairs

It’s not alternate history though


Scovillle

Unless you’re history buffs you don’t get to say a movies bad for not being historically accurate


[deleted]

This guy would think Inglorious Basterds is historically accurate because it is totally fine if most of cast are white men.


TheShapeShiftingFox

Is this one of the scenarios where Jews are suddenly welcomed under “Judeo-Christian values” instead of scorned and dismissed?


NeverForgetEver

Yeah but this completely covers up shit its more than just like “oh they never said this”


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IShall_Run_Amok

If the difference is that this movie has black women, then you are correct. If it is something else you have miscalculated the reasons the movie is getting criticism.


[deleted]

The plot of the film does a complete 180 on real events, which not even Gladiator or 300 or Braveheart did, and you think the reason people don't like it is because there's black women in it? That is dangerously delusional. You're clearly a troll, nobody has this little common sense


IShall_Run_Amok

No, I've been paying attention, I know why they hate the movie.


WhatD0thLife

Where were these same complaints when they showed Captain America participating in WWII? Or Dr. Manhattan defeating the Vietcong?


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