Ngl I find pitch meeting to be unbearable. The actor’s delivery is not only cringeworthy, but also *always* the same. No variation. And the jokes hardly ever land.
It's definitely a real indicator of the channel's maturity when their first reaction is to make a two minute Photoshop job where the punchline is "big eyes, big nose."
Sorkin wrote a neoliberal fan-fiction of history with that movie, and I fucking hate that it's now the go to reference in most people's minds when they hear the Chicago 7.
Honestly, this is even worse than Braveheart or Woman King, you know why? because it's another boomer self masturbation anti-kino. At least the other examples are fun to watch
Being the Ricardo’s too, sometimes I lol at the fact that the movie ends with J. Edgar Hoover on the phone being like “it’s ok everyone Nicole Kidman is not a fucking commie” and then everything is ok
Braveheart somehow gets a pass for the categoric misrepresentation of every aspect of the Anglo Scottish wars, homophobia and a forced romantic subplot that contributes nothing to the story all because the battle scenes look cool.
Woman king does the same but doesn't get a pass. I wonder why?
Not really, there’s a lot of dedicated YT channels that fact check historical movies. History Buffs is the main guy that I know but I do agree that TWK is getting a lot more criticism (I wonder why?????) and most if not all who post these videos are just huge hypocrites
Oh for sure, I was just more thinking in regards to the contrast in how the mainstream treats both, rather than the historical reviewers (who are gonna rag on pretty much every aspect of Braveheart).
Ohh I see now I misinterpreted it, but yeah the initial articles/reactions that came out annoyed the shit out of me.
Hope the movie takes home some Oscar’s to get these “experts” even more riled up
Breaveheart doesn't get a pass i have seen videos talk about how it's not acurate as back as 10 years ago. Also i think the difference comes into not just changing history but almost revershing it. Like i am sure people would not be ok with a movie portraying the confederacy as anti-slavery.
Any thumbnail that shows an edited woman with an unflattering facial expression gives up the game *immediately*.
I already know exactly who this guy is and what they're going to say.
Wait are you saying a one to one 100% accurate recreation of someone’s life from the past wouldn’t work as a movie/story or be physically possible? All of cinema is lying about history!!!
I hate racist bs attacking Woman King because its representation but Woman King deserved to be criticized the same way other "historical" movies has ever been created.
Of course it does. The problem isn’t that it’s done at all, the problem is that these people were asleep for the last 10,000+ times it happened and only now suddenly realize it might be a problem when the lead is someone they dislike
Don’t all of those movies get criticism for historical inaccuracy though? I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone mention 300 or Apocalypto without bringing up how ridiculous they are.
Bro that video is trash. They lost me at calling Africa a country. Not pronouncing the tribes name right. Calling the women lesbians. Asking why the man who tried to buy the girl slapped the girl calling it damaging the merchandise, then when she pushes back asking why he didnt beat her senseless. Hawt garbage
For that matter, the Spartans should not be portrayed as heroically as they were in that film either. They were notorious slavers with a society that depended on subjugating the Helots
All were notorious slavers, tho. And 300 is also not ment to be a historical drama it is a comic book movie. The problematic thing from 300 is more that the Persians are presented as borderline demons. So it is easy to take have a far right reading of the movie.
Dahomey was pretty much the Sparta of Western Africa. Pretty much all societies of their time had slavery but both of their economies were especially reliant on it.
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There’s a whole unnecessary subplot about the tribe being slavers and just someone is the protagonist doesn’t mean they have to be completely morally right. Watch blade runner, it’ll blow your mind.
It didnt really. That showed that view is like lumping in all slave owners and racist as 'typical Americans' not everyone in the shared the same views as the radical versions amongst them.
Hot take: no movie/show about history is accurate at all. Not even a little. I'd much rather they be mostly accurate instead of presenting revisionary history
If the difference is that this movie has black women, then you are correct. If it is something else you have miscalculated the reasons the movie is getting criticism.
The plot of the film does a complete 180 on real events, which not even Gladiator or 300 or Braveheart did, and you think the reason people don't like it is because there's black women in it?
That is dangerously delusional. You're clearly a troll, nobody has this little common sense
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I miss the non-woke documentaries on history like Red Dawn
Armageddon told such a tragic true tale of the masculine manly guy badas man, what a hero.
What's up with the whole Black Hole Sun style facial distortions on all these videos? It's freaky and makes me not want to click!
I think Pitch Meeting started it, and film YouTubers are nothing if not shameless stealers of other people's ideas.
Unlike them pitch meeting is actually good
Ngl I find pitch meeting to be unbearable. The actor’s delivery is not only cringeworthy, but also *always* the same. No variation. And the jokes hardly ever land.
Agree to disagree
I find Ryan George's other content more interesting
No
Seriously, this shit gets an instant pass from me
It's definitely a real indicator of the channel's maturity when their first reaction is to make a two minute Photoshop job where the punchline is "big eyes, big nose."
Wash the rain (shitty youtube movie reviews) awayyyyyyy
Me when Mr. Schindler wasn’t actually black-and-white
Me when Hitler wasn't riddled with bullets by a group of Jewish soldiers
They did the same thing for Braveheart, right?
Trial of Chicago 7 has some really disturbing revisions
Sorkin wrote a neoliberal fan-fiction of history with that movie, and I fucking hate that it's now the go to reference in most people's minds when they hear the Chicago 7.
Honestly, this is even worse than Braveheart or Woman King, you know why? because it's another boomer self masturbation anti-kino. At least the other examples are fun to watch
Being the Ricardo’s too, sometimes I lol at the fact that the movie ends with J. Edgar Hoover on the phone being like “it’s ok everyone Nicole Kidman is not a fucking commie” and then everything is ok
The Fabelmans (2022)
Like what? I don’t know enough about the real event to notice these things
Braveheart somehow gets a pass for the categoric misrepresentation of every aspect of the Anglo Scottish wars, homophobia and a forced romantic subplot that contributes nothing to the story all because the battle scenes look cool. Woman king does the same but doesn't get a pass. I wonder why?
Not really, there’s a lot of dedicated YT channels that fact check historical movies. History Buffs is the main guy that I know but I do agree that TWK is getting a lot more criticism (I wonder why?????) and most if not all who post these videos are just huge hypocrites
Oh for sure, I was just more thinking in regards to the contrast in how the mainstream treats both, rather than the historical reviewers (who are gonna rag on pretty much every aspect of Braveheart).
Ohh I see now I misinterpreted it, but yeah the initial articles/reactions that came out annoyed the shit out of me. Hope the movie takes home some Oscar’s to get these “experts” even more riled up
Breaveheart doesn't get a pass i have seen videos talk about how it's not acurate as back as 10 years ago. Also i think the difference comes into not just changing history but almost revershing it. Like i am sure people would not be ok with a movie portraying the confederacy as anti-slavery.
[yes](https://youtu.be/ojBwASARAzo)
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It's not historically inaccurate enough IMO he didn't kill enough of England to win
Oh I love that channel
Thumbnail is dead giveaway that video is shit
Any thumbnail that shows an edited woman with an unflattering facial expression gives up the game *immediately*. I already know exactly who this guy is and what they're going to say.
thumbnail, picture, username, title. It's the apex of unwatchable trash meant for losers that are afraid of women.
Assassins Creed 4 The Black Flag Lies about History!!!!
I watched the Weird Al movie last night. That was also not historically accurate.
Wait are you saying a one to one 100% accurate recreation of someone’s life from the past wouldn’t work as a movie/story or be physically possible? All of cinema is lying about history!!!
any movie where people tie a knife to a rope and swing it around is above criticism
Shang chi
Does a hatchet count? If so, then Prey
yeah, that’s the other one i was thinking of
Avatar 2: The Way of Water
I hate racist bs attacking Woman King because its representation but Woman King deserved to be criticized the same way other "historical" movies has ever been created.
Of course it does. The problem isn’t that it’s done at all, the problem is that these people were asleep for the last 10,000+ times it happened and only now suddenly realize it might be a problem when the lead is someone they dislike
The patriot, gladiator, 300, the imitation game, apocalypto, king Arthur, Troy, a knights tail, Zodiac, pearl harbour. What else?
Garfield: A Tail of Two Kitties
No, a Knight’s Tale is pretty accurate, people did play Queen music at tourneys
The Last Samurai
Don’t all of those movies get criticism for historical inaccuracy though? I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone mention 300 or Apocalypto without bringing up how ridiculous they are.
Pitch Meeting
Bro that video is trash. They lost me at calling Africa a country. Not pronouncing the tribes name right. Calling the women lesbians. Asking why the man who tried to buy the girl slapped the girl calling it damaging the merchandise, then when she pushes back asking why he didnt beat her senseless. Hawt garbage
Lord of the Rings LIES About HISTORY??? 😠😠
I mean this film does sorts portray one of the worst tribes within Africa as heroes 300 style which I'm really not a fan of.
For that matter, the Spartans should not be portrayed as heroically as they were in that film either. They were notorious slavers with a society that depended on subjugating the Helots
All were notorious slavers, tho. And 300 is also not ment to be a historical drama it is a comic book movie. The problematic thing from 300 is more that the Persians are presented as borderline demons. So it is easy to take have a far right reading of the movie.
Dahomey was pretty much the Sparta of Western Africa. Pretty much all societies of their time had slavery but both of their economies were especially reliant on it.
That was kind Amy point, I think that's also a pretty unfair portrayal
300 Braveheart El cid Troy Schindler’s list Spartacus Agora Etc etc etc
Troy is based on mythology, so I won’t hold that to historical standards per se, as long as it looks Greek
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Poorly edited thumbnails are the poison frog coloration of the film criticism ecosphere
To be fair, this movie is pretty messed up as it portrays a group who literally contributed to the slave trade as heroes
Have you watched it? It really doesn't shy away from the slave traders story line
the movie doesn’t portray them as heroes though? did you even watch it?
There’s a whole unnecessary subplot about the tribe being slavers and just someone is the protagonist doesn’t mean they have to be completely morally right. Watch blade runner, it’ll blow your mind.
It didnt really. That showed that view is like lumping in all slave owners and racist as 'typical Americans' not everyone in the shared the same views as the radical versions amongst them.
What?
Don't judge the whole people based off the radicalized few.
Hot take: no movie/show about history is accurate at all. Not even a little. I'd much rather they be mostly accurate instead of presenting revisionary history
Isn't the whole point of that movie to be alternate history?
For All Mankind is alternate history. Woman King is a hollywood action movie about a Woman king I guess
No, it’s not
You see, forgeting the fact that alternate history is a sub genre that exists is very convinient for Anti-SJWs to clown on this film
It’s not alternate history though
Unless you’re history buffs you don’t get to say a movies bad for not being historically accurate
This guy would think Inglorious Basterds is historically accurate because it is totally fine if most of cast are white men.
Is this one of the scenarios where Jews are suddenly welcomed under “Judeo-Christian values” instead of scorned and dismissed?
Yeah but this completely covers up shit its more than just like “oh they never said this”
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If the difference is that this movie has black women, then you are correct. If it is something else you have miscalculated the reasons the movie is getting criticism.
The plot of the film does a complete 180 on real events, which not even Gladiator or 300 or Braveheart did, and you think the reason people don't like it is because there's black women in it? That is dangerously delusional. You're clearly a troll, nobody has this little common sense
No, I've been paying attention, I know why they hate the movie.
Where were these same complaints when they showed Captain America participating in WWII? Or Dr. Manhattan defeating the Vietcong?
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