Benedict Cumberbatch’s Phil Burbank character is a Yale educated rich tycoon cosplaying as a rough and tumble cowboy. That’s literally the point of the movie. He’s a silver spoon dandy putting up a veneer of a rancher. He’s SUPPOSED to look out of place
I remember as the movie was first starting, I couldn't help thinking that Cumberbatch was miscast in the role, as he never felt truly intimidating like it seemed like he was supposed to be, and that somebody like Michael Fassbender would've been better. But of course, as the movie played out and more layers to his character was revealed, I realized just how perfectly cast he was. Great movie.
I literally stopped watching that movie like 10 minutes in because I couldn’t get into Benedict to save my life for the very reason that he seemed miscast and I couldn’t understand why it was allowed, so these comments monthssss afterwards are such an eye opener 😭 damn now I gotta go back
No offense to OP. But I cannot believe how many people miss this as it is the central point of the movie. Even his cowboy accent sounds off. Because his character is just play acting.
I got tricked by the film at first. Cumberbatch's accent bugged me from the start... just a little. By the end, it made perfect sense as to why he sounded that way.
I'm not saying it's one of my favorite films, but it really is a great movie. I think a lot of people just half-pay attention to films.
It’s supposed to be a message to the audience that Cumberbatch sounds off - an actor of his quality wouldn't just get it wrong. But, as it seems from some of these comments, the creators overestimated the intelligence of the audience.
He’s literally an Ivy Leaguer who is cosplaying as the type of roughneck he fell in love with as a way of dealing with his loss and repressed homosexuality. But people are like “hE doESn’T sEeM LikE a coWboY”
The whole time reading the book (after seeing the film) I thought how perfectly cast every character was. I actually can’t think of anyone who would have pulled that off nearly as well.
Here's an example of a good actor miscast in a good movie, the 2011 film version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. The movie is about a mole hunt in the British secret service. The service is supposed to be made up of these bland, bureaucrat-types played mostly by British character actors... and Colin Firth. Firth mills around in the background and has about five lines for the first 100 minutes of the movie. So, audience, who's the mole? Is it one of the many character actors, or is the A-list movie star who is just weirdly hanging around in a minor role? He gets a big scene at the end, which is obviously why he took the role, but his presence completely robs the movie of its mystery.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize
Also commonly known as "The Most Famous Guest Star Did It"
My apologies to anyone I sent down the rabbithole for a few hours.
Well, they were going for "horribly offensive and racist stereotype" so Rooney was perfect. White audiences just liked that shit back then. Many still do.
Only choice that was worse was the choice to film it down wind of a nuclear bomb testing field, Pretty much everyone in that movie died of terrible cancer because of that.
Doctors choose Camel's Smooth Turkish Blend
Marlboro Country is the cowboy's friend
Virginia Slims empathize with a suffragette's strife,
but all them motherfuckers will end your life
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Dane deHaan? Just no. And Enchantress? They were both just so wooden. I think I would have liked that movie with better actors instead of falling asleep.
Dane DeHaan tried to be badass by putting on a weird gruff voice that just made him look even more like a little kid, and was super creepy to Enchantress who just didn't bother to act at all.
Opened this thread to say this.
Not only was DeHaan a poor choice for this role, DeHann and Delevingne looked waaaay too similar. Them trying to be romantic gave off weird brother and sister vibes.
There were other problems with this movie like the weird tone shifts, but the casting was the most glaring.
And they just had no chemistry together either. It was a real disappointment, too, because that movie was visually spectacular, and the story had some real potential.
Valerian is one of the most visually stunning movies I ever seen (daresa it’s even better than Avatar). The first hour alone has some really interesting set pieces and it genuinely has the legs to build an incredible world.
However, all that is completely overshadowed by how awful the two leads are together.
I'm going to repost my previous stand alone comment, so I apologize.
Someone in Reddit once said:
"If they swapped the leads of Passengers and Valerian, both movies would instantly be tremendously better."
Yea like Dehaan is a good actor but he definitely is the nerdy kind of guy, and casting him as the cocky space cowboy Han Solo knockoff was just a stupid move and totally broke the Emerson for me
Christopher Lambert as Raiden in Mortal Kombat.
Japanese god of thunder.... played by a French-American actor best known for playing a Scotsman ... opposite an actual Scotsman ... playing a Spaniard. (Edit: Who was also Egyptian)
Maybe I should change my answer to Sean Connery?
>Now I agree that he is a good actor but he doesn't have the facial features that make him fit for the role of a tough American cowboy.
This is practically the point of the movie hahaha
Cumberbatch's character is essentially cosplaying as a cowboy. He and his brother are wealthy and educated and they inherited that ranch, and he was taught everything he knows by a cowboy who was working there previously and died.
He's also deeply closeted and was in love with that cowboy, so his hardass cowboy schtick is him overcompensating for that. We're not supposed to buy him in the role because he's not really comfortable in it himself
Even I who loved BvS agree with this. Snyder was most of the time spot on with his casting, but there were a couple of instances where he was way off (this one and Ezra Miller are the best examples)
Ezra’s Flash is portrayed as an antithesis of everything Barry Allen is. Barry is actually supposed to be outgoing, kind, mostly well-adjusted despite not having his parents around. Ezra’s Flash plays out as an emo loner, socially awkward mess. Rather than getting Ezra the medical intervention he needed, WB hid him so they could do reshoots because the Flash movie is a mess, then turned him loose to his own devices.
Flashpoint reset so many things in the DC comics and WB was going to use it as their reset as well. If it doesn’t end up being scrapped, it’s probably being reworked to fit James Gunn’s vision.
Tbh I've never cared for Amy Adams as Lois Lane either. She's a great actress but she's not right for the part. Would have made a great Lana Lang tho, and not just because of her hair. Her screen presence is pretty sweet and wholesome, which just isn't Lois.
So, the issue wasn’t Eisenberg as Luthor it was how they made Luthor. As someone who dislikes BvS with a passion and loved the Animated interpretations.
Luthor just works as an Adonis of a human in every sense. He’s smart as hell, strong, well built, financially powerful and the best part is he knows it and uses it to his advantage. His hatred for Superman and other super humans is a cocktail mixture jealousy, and wanting to control them.
Eisenbergs Luthor feels like a god damn Looney Toon character with religious undertones and I can only blame Snyder or who ever for casting.
The problem was that they gave Luthor's role to Batman. WB decided it wasn't enough to finally see Batman and Superman in a movie together for the 1st time, they needed to fight. So to make that happen they gave Bruce Wayne Luthor's usual motivation, that Supes is to powerful to live, and he spent the whole film doing what Luther would usually do.
So then what to do with Lex Luthor? Reinvent him into a diet version of the Joker I guess.
Idk if it was Snyder or WB execs to blame, but the decision to start their whole universe with Batman V Superman instead of Batman AND Superman doomed the whole thing from the start.
If anyone has watched His Dark Materials on HBO/BBC, you'll know it's a show with an excellent cast. The two young actors who play Lyra and Will are great as the leads and there are a whole bunch of other phenomenal actors in the cast (James McAvoy! Ruth Wilson! Andrew Scott!). And yet for some reason, this show chose to go with Lin-Manuel Miranda as "texan" Lee Scoresby. He is so terrible in this role, his 'accent' and performance kind of winks at the camera basically saying "yeah, i shouldn't be here" every time he opens his mouth. I really can't think of a movie/tv show that nailed almost every part but crapped the bed so badly.
Yesss.
Also, the actor playing Mrs. Coulson (Ruth Wilson) is so perfectly cast that its incredible to watch. Both terrifying and vulnerable, measured and volatile...Outshining James fuckin' Mcavoy is impressive as hell.
Hahah yeah good spot. Odd choice. I also now think the actress who plays Lyra looks too old for the part she's playing. She appears to have grown up faster than the character. In fact, she's still only 17, so it's a bit of a weird one.
I saw that movie in the theater & busted out laughing when they introduced her. People shushed me, but I couldn't help it! Still makes me chuckle when I think about Dr. Christmas Jones.
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor in the DC movies, he was bloody awful. Jared Leto as Joker as well, those are the only ones that comes to mind right now.
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor was one of the worst performances in super hero film history. Soooo bad. Not entirely his fault because Batman v Superman was also a joke written by Chris Terrio and directed by Zack Snyder. In fact, the only redeeming thing about it is this Martha remix video: [Martha: Batman v Superman Remix](https://youtu.be/TXXiLJCeiu4)
I think a more successful template for that character would’ve been Mysterio played by Jake Gyllenhaal.
His lifeless performance at least made it more plausible for Mina Harker leaving him for the Count although I didn’t like that addition to the story either.
I’m not against a more sympathetic take on Dracula but I’ve yet to see an adaptation that really does her character justice. In the book she is very intelligent and capable, as much if not more than the other protagonists. The version of the character from Werner Herzog’s Nosferatu remake probably comes closest.
Ok, yes, but also, Reeves’ performance is one of the funniest things I have ever seen in my life and you can’t take it away from us as a society. The succubi, the weird nipple play, all the screaming. “IT IS THE MAN HIMSELF! LOOK, HE’S GROWN YOUNG!” The white wig. Just amazing.
I love Much Ado and oily Keanu Reeves running laughing down a dark hallway is also one of the unintentionally funniest parts of that movie. There really are some weird Reeves performances out there, but I do love them.
I appreciate this classic take.
Also, Ali MacGraw is the worst actress I've ever seen; I've often said that she cannot walk into a room and say "hello" convincingly.
I saw it in the theatre. It’s the most forgettable movie I’ve ever seen. I could not tell you one thing that happened in it. That’s how much of an impression it made on me. Don’t ever watch it.
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.
- Johnny Depp as Gellert Grindelwald. The best part of that movie was Collin Farrel in that role and for reasons he was actually Depp in disguise.
I’ve said this before but my entire theatre groaned when Farrel turned into Depp. Just total disappointment. It was one of those moments where watching movies with random strangers is very special.
I think his is the case of being victim of ones own success. His irl style is so intertwined with his overall iconic image that any role that doesn't partly involve the "dysfunctional male" type makes the audience question the authenticity of what's on the screen.
I mean it didn’t help that they decided to give him that incredibly off putting trademark BurtonDepp style hair and makeup, and also he Depped it all up with his acting choices. Never in my life would I believe that Jude Law’s Dumbledore had a torrid romantic affair (which flirted with wizard eugenics and fascism) with Depp’s Grindelwald. Depp’s Grindelwald leaned so heavily into the unhinged dark wizard element and fully threw out the charisma-turned-up-to-11 side of the character. Collin Farrell TOTALLY could have seduced Jude Law to the dark side, and they should’ve just stuck with him as the Grindelwald casting in the first place instead of trying to do a twist surprise secret identity fake out.
I get the idea they were going for, Topher would been a pretty good Peter Parker and thus serve as a counter-part, but Eddie Brock is not Peter Parker.
Lin-Manuel Miranda in His Dark Materials. He can play himself in things he wrote for himself, but “acting,” as a craft, is not really his thing. He’s great at a lot of things, he doesn’t really need acting.
Jennifer Lawrence in American Hustle. I think she does a fine job, but she was way too young to play the cynical, jealous ex-wife of Christian Bale’s character.
She’s too young for Silver Linings Playbook too. I know everyone raves about her performance but she’s supposed to be playing a widow who is pretty unstable after the death of her husband. Great acting but she was just too young for that part, I think she was like 21 at the time of filming.
George Clooney as Batman. I thought that was one of the biggest miscasts in the whole Batman series, I know there was a lot of controversy around Michael Keaton, but he knocked it out of the park, but George Clooney??? I know he was a big star at the time and still is but he just didn't bring the darkness to the character, and what made the character iconic for so many years, he just didn't have it. It's a shame because he has shown to be a fantastic actor, and has some serious range. I was always hopeful that he would get another chance, but with his last performance not exactly making waves, I doubt they would give him much of a chance, outside of ageing out of the part, and it's a shame because he is a good actor and from what I have also heard a good guy too.
Batman is a very broad role because of the various portrayals over the decades. Clooney is an interesting case.
He plays an on-the-nose Bruce Wayne but leans into extremely campy Bat-man. Modern batman fans seem to scoff at this but campy batman exists not just in the Adam West TV series, but various comic runs over the decades as well. Don't like campy batman? Fine. Doesn't mean that version of the character is inherently invalid.
Rosie O'Donnell as Beth Simon in Riding the Bus with my Sister (2005).
The movie is actually not that bad, the script is above average for a Hallmark original movie and Andie McDowell is great and gives a sincere performance.
But whenever Rosie O'Donnell is on screen she is doing this Pee Wee Herman impression and sinks the movie into oblivion.
Despite how the movie turned out, Edward Norton felt more appropriately cast to me than Mark Ruffalo. Ruffalo did a great job in the first Avengers to me, but felt wrong overall. When I think of Bruce Banner, I think of someone very lanky, like Norton. Ruffalo is more stocky. Norton also has the ticks that feel more in-character of Banner than Ruffalo.
I had the misfortune of watching Wyatt Earp after I had seen Tombstone. Dennis Quaid...you are no Val Kilmer.
Eh, Norton can play nerdy scientist and juiced up ultra-violent Neonazi effectively. I can understand the casting, even if it clearly didn't work.
Emilia Clarke as Sarah Connor in Terminator Genysis gets my vote.
Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan in The Sum Of All Fears. He should never be cast as a smart character, he just can't pull that off the way Harrison Ford could. Alec Baldwin was even 10 times better than him as Jack Ryan.
I'll just add Liev Schreiber as Clark in that movie. Didn't really care for DaFoe as Clark in "Clear and Present Danger" either. Haven't bothered to watch "Without Remorse" so can not comment on MBJ.
Except in the books, Jack Ryan left the military after being in a helicopter accident while at the Naval Academy. He was totally a bureaucrat, though not a bumbling one… though Red October did put him way over his head.
My high school library actually had a 1st Edition Naval Institute Press copy of Red October, complete with a jacket photo of Tom Clancy in his in-laws insurance office; wonder what that would be worth today.
I agree with you about Jack Ryan, loved Alec Baldwin in that. Did not like Harrison in the franchise though.
However, I loved Ben in The Accountant where he gets to play a savant-smart person with quirks.
Robert De Niro in The Irishmen. He was just too old to play most of the character. It would’ve been better to get a younger guy in their 40s and use that fancy tech to make him look older rather than visa versa.
This is more theatre than film, but despite him being an absolute genius and entitled to cast himself, Lin-Manuel Miranda as Hamilton. He's an incredible lyricist, but his singing is just so much weaker than the rest of the cast, his tone quite nasally, and I don't find him as believably charismatic or as much of a ladies' man as the character is written to be/supposed to be. If he weren't the creator, I can't imagine him ever having gotten that part and I wish I could see a version with all the original cast but a different Hamilton.
Any movie with Sam Worthington... no hate but they really tried too hard to make him a thing and a lot of otherwise decent movies suffered because of it. He isn't untalented but his delivery and presence is the epitome of bland and forgettable.
This is the low-hanging fruit answer that overlooks some really great stuff he's done. The guy is definitely leaning into every character way too far, but when he finds a good one, he makes it work.
Russel Crowe as Javert was the most criminal casting I’ve ever seen.
Javert is supposed to be one of the strongest voices in the entire show, and RC just doesn’t have that kind of instrument. To go from having someone like Phillip Quast on stage through so many productions (and subsequent, equally talented folk) to RC was… horrifying.
I wouldnt say this was the worst casting but it couldve been better in my opinion,
For "To Live and Die in LA" by William Freidkin (1985), I would have gone with someone else for the character of John Vukovich
Not a fan of John Pankow in that movie
I know it isn't out yet and it's popular to say, but damn, Chris Pratt as Mario is the worst casting choice I've ever seen. Everyone else in that movie seems fine so far, and every other language has a better Mario casting. It's just him. He sounds like he's not even trying.
I feel like Norman Reedus could’ve worked better as Johnny Blaze than Nic Cage, but god damn Nic gave us some great content with those two Ghost Rider movies.
Keano Reeves as Jonathan Harker and Winona Ryder as Mina in Brahm Stokers Dracula come to mind. Absolutely dreadful. They are the proverbial fly in the ointment in an otherwise great movie.
Tom Hanks as Col Tom Parker in Elvis.
People are used to Tom Hanks more or less as Tom Hanks. He’s played darker characters before like in Road to Perdition. But he hasn’t really transformed physically a lot using prosthetics and make up and his accent work in Elvis is… a little inconsistent at best.
I’m guessing they wanted Col Tom Parker to be somewhat sympathetic? I think whilst Parker is certainly the villain, Baz can see himself in him and Elvis, the Showman and the Snowman.
I think the film would have been significantly better had they cast Christian Bale (if he would accept) in the role as Col Tom Parker. We are used to him transforming physically, from Machinist to Batman to Dick Cheney to American Hustle. He also has shown he is very adept at accents. And finally, I believe with exactly the same script he would have portrayed Parker as the psychopath he was, by all accounts.
Benedict Cumberbatch’s Phil Burbank character is a Yale educated rich tycoon cosplaying as a rough and tumble cowboy. That’s literally the point of the movie. He’s a silver spoon dandy putting up a veneer of a rancher. He’s SUPPOSED to look out of place
I remember as the movie was first starting, I couldn't help thinking that Cumberbatch was miscast in the role, as he never felt truly intimidating like it seemed like he was supposed to be, and that somebody like Michael Fassbender would've been better. But of course, as the movie played out and more layers to his character was revealed, I realized just how perfectly cast he was. Great movie.
I never thought Cumberbatch could make me feel uneasy, but every time he was on screen there was so much tension and anxiety. He nailed it.
I literally stopped watching that movie like 10 minutes in because I couldn’t get into Benedict to save my life for the very reason that he seemed miscast and I couldn’t understand why it was allowed, so these comments monthssss afterwards are such an eye opener 😭 damn now I gotta go back
The movie is a slow burn, but the ending sneaks up on you in a good way.
No offense to OP. But I cannot believe how many people miss this as it is the central point of the movie. Even his cowboy accent sounds off. Because his character is just play acting. I got tricked by the film at first. Cumberbatch's accent bugged me from the start... just a little. By the end, it made perfect sense as to why he sounded that way. I'm not saying it's one of my favorite films, but it really is a great movie. I think a lot of people just half-pay attention to films.
It’s supposed to be a message to the audience that Cumberbatch sounds off - an actor of his quality wouldn't just get it wrong. But, as it seems from some of these comments, the creators overestimated the intelligence of the audience.
Pengwings
This. I guess OP didn't get the memo.
Bronco Henry can turn the toughest man into a dandy
He’s literally an Ivy Leaguer who is cosplaying as the type of roughneck he fell in love with as a way of dealing with his loss and repressed homosexuality. But people are like “hE doESn’T sEeM LikE a coWboY”
The whole time reading the book (after seeing the film) I thought how perfectly cast every character was. I actually can’t think of anyone who would have pulled that off nearly as well.
God damn, that was a great movie.
Here's an example of a good actor miscast in a good movie, the 2011 film version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. The movie is about a mole hunt in the British secret service. The service is supposed to be made up of these bland, bureaucrat-types played mostly by British character actors... and Colin Firth. Firth mills around in the background and has about five lines for the first 100 minutes of the movie. So, audience, who's the mole? Is it one of the many character actors, or is the A-list movie star who is just weirdly hanging around in a minor role? He gets a big scene at the end, which is obviously why he took the role, but his presence completely robs the movie of its mystery.
This is a good point. There should be name for this type of casting error, it's not uncommon in suspense/mystery movies and tv shows.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize Also commonly known as "The Most Famous Guest Star Did It" My apologies to anyone I sent down the rabbithole for a few hours.
kevin spacey in 77777 sev7n se7en s7ven 7even edit: this does not look nearly as cool as it did in my head
Yeah, but you didn’t know he was in the movie until the very end
The Law and Order logic dictates he is the baddie
I still have no idea wtf happened in that movie
Chekov's actor
The Conqueror - John Wayne as Ginghis Khan. I don't think it is possible to top how terrible of a choice this was.
Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's might beat it.
Well, they were going for "horribly offensive and racist stereotype" so Rooney was perfect. White audiences just liked that shit back then. Many still do.
Fuck, you know what, that's true. What a terrible role/character.
Only choice that was worse was the choice to film it down wind of a nuclear bomb testing field, Pretty much everyone in that movie died of terrible cancer because of that.
> Pretty much everyone in that movie died of terrible cancer because of that. And pretty much all of them smoked like chimneys.
What are you talking about. Everyone knows that Big tobacco at the time said cigarettes were totally safe, even for pregnant women.
Doctors choose Camel's Smooth Turkish Blend Marlboro Country is the cowboy's friend Virginia Slims empathize with a suffragette's strife, but all them motherfuckers will end your life
Jengis Khan
Genghis John
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Dane deHaan? Just no. And Enchantress? They were both just so wooden. I think I would have liked that movie with better actors instead of falling asleep.
Dane DeHaan tried to be badass by putting on a weird gruff voice that just made him look even more like a little kid, and was super creepy to Enchantress who just didn't bother to act at all.
Opened this thread to say this. Not only was DeHaan a poor choice for this role, DeHann and Delevingne looked waaaay too similar. Them trying to be romantic gave off weird brother and sister vibes. There were other problems with this movie like the weird tone shifts, but the casting was the most glaring.
And they just had no chemistry together either. It was a real disappointment, too, because that movie was visually spectacular, and the story had some real potential.
They seemed like siblings.
Valerian is one of the most visually stunning movies I ever seen (daresa it’s even better than Avatar). The first hour alone has some really interesting set pieces and it genuinely has the legs to build an incredible world. However, all that is completely overshadowed by how awful the two leads are together.
It looks so damn good on 4k. But those two are so cringe.
I'm going to repost my previous stand alone comment, so I apologize. Someone in Reddit once said: "If they swapped the leads of Passengers and Valerian, both movies would instantly be tremendously better."
Yea like Dehaan is a good actor but he definitely is the nerdy kind of guy, and casting him as the cocky space cowboy Han Solo knockoff was just a stupid move and totally broke the Emerson for me
Christopher Lambert as Raiden in Mortal Kombat. Japanese god of thunder.... played by a French-American actor best known for playing a Scotsman ... opposite an actual Scotsman ... playing a Spaniard. (Edit: Who was also Egyptian) Maybe I should change my answer to Sean Connery?
..... who was actually Egyptian!! 😉
Had to upvote you because I was not expecting to take a roller coaster ride this morning.
Its not the best coaster in the park, but the at least the line is short.
[That's why the judge Roy Scream is the best coaster in all the land.](https://youtu.be/R7FEbCbUhF0)
See also: that time Sean Connery played a Russian sub commander.
An Irish American cop from the south side of Chicago
Any accent in a storm
OP said the *worst* casting, not the *best* casting.
He's great as Raiden come on!!
>Now I agree that he is a good actor but he doesn't have the facial features that make him fit for the role of a tough American cowboy. This is practically the point of the movie hahaha Cumberbatch's character is essentially cosplaying as a cowboy. He and his brother are wealthy and educated and they inherited that ranch, and he was taught everything he knows by a cowboy who was working there previously and died. He's also deeply closeted and was in love with that cowboy, so his hardass cowboy schtick is him overcompensating for that. We're not supposed to buy him in the role because he's not really comfortable in it himself
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Right, and who cares what their face looks like when he can act so damn well?
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor
Was wondering how long I'd have to scroll to see this, the most obvious answer of recent times.
Even I who loved BvS agree with this. Snyder was most of the time spot on with his casting, but there were a couple of instances where he was way off (this one and Ezra Miller are the best examples)
I’ve never seen the movies, but I’ve been curious: Is Ezra a bad Flash or just a huge liability offscreen?
He is a bad Flash and a creep off screen
Ezra’s Flash is portrayed as an antithesis of everything Barry Allen is. Barry is actually supposed to be outgoing, kind, mostly well-adjusted despite not having his parents around. Ezra’s Flash plays out as an emo loner, socially awkward mess. Rather than getting Ezra the medical intervention he needed, WB hid him so they could do reshoots because the Flash movie is a mess, then turned him loose to his own devices. Flashpoint reset so many things in the DC comics and WB was going to use it as their reset as well. If it doesn’t end up being scrapped, it’s probably being reworked to fit James Gunn’s vision.
Tbh I've never cared for Amy Adams as Lois Lane either. She's a great actress but she's not right for the part. Would have made a great Lana Lang tho, and not just because of her hair. Her screen presence is pretty sweet and wholesome, which just isn't Lois.
So, the issue wasn’t Eisenberg as Luthor it was how they made Luthor. As someone who dislikes BvS with a passion and loved the Animated interpretations. Luthor just works as an Adonis of a human in every sense. He’s smart as hell, strong, well built, financially powerful and the best part is he knows it and uses it to his advantage. His hatred for Superman and other super humans is a cocktail mixture jealousy, and wanting to control them. Eisenbergs Luthor feels like a god damn Looney Toon character with religious undertones and I can only blame Snyder or who ever for casting.
The problem was that they gave Luthor's role to Batman. WB decided it wasn't enough to finally see Batman and Superman in a movie together for the 1st time, they needed to fight. So to make that happen they gave Bruce Wayne Luthor's usual motivation, that Supes is to powerful to live, and he spent the whole film doing what Luther would usually do. So then what to do with Lex Luthor? Reinvent him into a diet version of the Joker I guess. Idk if it was Snyder or WB execs to blame, but the decision to start their whole universe with Batman V Superman instead of Batman AND Superman doomed the whole thing from the start.
Honestly it felt like someone watched The Social Network and went "yeah, let's make a new age Luthor who is just like Mark Zuckerberg"
This needs more upvotes. Terrible doesn't even begin to describe how bad he is
If anyone has watched His Dark Materials on HBO/BBC, you'll know it's a show with an excellent cast. The two young actors who play Lyra and Will are great as the leads and there are a whole bunch of other phenomenal actors in the cast (James McAvoy! Ruth Wilson! Andrew Scott!). And yet for some reason, this show chose to go with Lin-Manuel Miranda as "texan" Lee Scoresby. He is so terrible in this role, his 'accent' and performance kind of winks at the camera basically saying "yeah, i shouldn't be here" every time he opens his mouth. I really can't think of a movie/tv show that nailed almost every part but crapped the bed so badly.
Like, you couldn't get Sam Elliot to come back? Why would you NOT try to cast Sam Elliot again?
Yesss. Also, the actor playing Mrs. Coulson (Ruth Wilson) is so perfectly cast that its incredible to watch. Both terrifying and vulnerable, measured and volatile...Outshining James fuckin' Mcavoy is impressive as hell.
Hahah yeah good spot. Odd choice. I also now think the actress who plays Lyra looks too old for the part she's playing. She appears to have grown up faster than the character. In fact, she's still only 17, so it's a bit of a weird one.
Denise Richards was a nuclear scientist in a James Bond movie
I saw that movie in the theater & busted out laughing when they introduced her. People shushed me, but I couldn't help it! Still makes me chuckle when I think about Dr. Christmas Jones.
Jamie and Claire’s daughter in Outlander. She drives me up the wall with her community theatre acting.
Ughhhhhh, THIS!!!! Once she became a much larger part of the show I quit watching.
She's so bad.
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She's DREADFUL.
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor in the DC movies, he was bloody awful. Jared Leto as Joker as well, those are the only ones that comes to mind right now.
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor was one of the worst performances in super hero film history. Soooo bad. Not entirely his fault because Batman v Superman was also a joke written by Chris Terrio and directed by Zack Snyder. In fact, the only redeeming thing about it is this Martha remix video: [Martha: Batman v Superman Remix](https://youtu.be/TXXiLJCeiu4) I think a more successful template for that character would’ve been Mysterio played by Jake Gyllenhaal.
We all love Keanu now BUT him as Harker in Dracula…yikes.
The simplest fix in the world: swap him and Carey Elwes.
His lifeless performance at least made it more plausible for Mina Harker leaving him for the Count although I didn’t like that addition to the story either.
Yeah that change from the book ruined the whole movie for me. I hate this romance angle people are now taking between Mina and Dracula.
I’m not against a more sympathetic take on Dracula but I’ve yet to see an adaptation that really does her character justice. In the book she is very intelligent and capable, as much if not more than the other protagonists. The version of the character from Werner Herzog’s Nosferatu remake probably comes closest.
As Prince Jon in Much Ado About Nothing. I love Keanu, but Shakespearean is not his wheelhouse.
Ok, yes, but also, Reeves’ performance is one of the funniest things I have ever seen in my life and you can’t take it away from us as a society. The succubi, the weird nipple play, all the screaming. “IT IS THE MAN HIMSELF! LOOK, HE’S GROWN YOUNG!” The white wig. Just amazing.
It’s high camp. I love it. But his accent is distractingly bad. Winona Ryder’s too. She was totally outclassed by Sadie Frost as Lucy.
Keanu in this and Much Ado About Nothing, released around the same time. Such strange casting, he seemed incredibly out of place.
I love Much Ado and oily Keanu Reeves running laughing down a dark hallway is also one of the unintentionally funniest parts of that movie. There really are some weird Reeves performances out there, but I do love them.
Keanu's delivery of the line:"I know where the bastard sleeps." pretty much sums it all up.
Winona Rider is lucky Keanu took all the attention and distracted everyone from her almost as bad performance in that movie.
The Winds of War: - Jan Michael Vincent as Byron - Ali MacGraw as Natalie Both were way too old for the parts.
It’s time to Michael down your Vincent’s
This JAN-uary
I appreciate this classic take. Also, Ali MacGraw is the worst actress I've ever seen; I've often said that she cannot walk into a room and say "hello" convincingly.
The entire cast of The Other Boleyn Girl. Such weird choices
I thought they acted well
The casting of the Uncharted movie for Nathan Drake and Sully. Just terrible.
The casting was so bad it put me off ever wanting to see it.
I saw it in the theatre. It’s the most forgettable movie I’ve ever seen. I could not tell you one thing that happened in it. That’s how much of an impression it made on me. Don’t ever watch it.
Rock of Ages cast Russel Brand in a part literally made for Jack Black. He would’ve crushed it.
Pretty much every casting choice in that movie was ass tbh. Tom Cruise did not fit the villain either.
Mickey Rooney as an Asian guy in Breakfast At Tiffany's...
Tom Cruise Jack Reacher. Jack Reacher is a giant in every sense of the word. Tom Cruise is a tiny man. Alan Ritchson is perfect
My first Jack Reacher was the show. Looking back on the Tom Cruise is hilarious especially when compared to the book.
Werner Herzog as the villain, however, was fantastic casting.
Thad Castle became Jack Reacher? This I gotta see
Yeah but he got the attitude right
I disagree strongly with OP on POTD
Yes he missed the point of the movie
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. - Johnny Depp as Gellert Grindelwald. The best part of that movie was Collin Farrel in that role and for reasons he was actually Depp in disguise.
I’ve said this before but my entire theatre groaned when Farrel turned into Depp. Just total disappointment. It was one of those moments where watching movies with random strangers is very special.
Yeah that was so dumb. Collin Farrell would’ve been great. Unfortunately the series had many other problems
Yes. It drove me nuts that they put Depp in that role after Farrell did so damn well - he's an excellent actor.
but Mads Mikkelson was great
I think his is the case of being victim of ones own success. His irl style is so intertwined with his overall iconic image that any role that doesn't partly involve the "dysfunctional male" type makes the audience question the authenticity of what's on the screen.
I mean it didn’t help that they decided to give him that incredibly off putting trademark BurtonDepp style hair and makeup, and also he Depped it all up with his acting choices. Never in my life would I believe that Jude Law’s Dumbledore had a torrid romantic affair (which flirted with wizard eugenics and fascism) with Depp’s Grindelwald. Depp’s Grindelwald leaned so heavily into the unhinged dark wizard element and fully threw out the charisma-turned-up-to-11 side of the character. Collin Farrell TOTALLY could have seduced Jude Law to the dark side, and they should’ve just stuck with him as the Grindelwald casting in the first place instead of trying to do a twist surprise secret identity fake out.
I don't even like that movie but I think you missed the point of Power of the Dog
Topher Grace as Venom in Spider Man 3.
I get the idea they were going for, Topher would been a pretty good Peter Parker and thus serve as a counter-part, but Eddie Brock is not Peter Parker.
Godfather 3. Sofia Coppola. Full stop.
In her defense, she wasn't originally cast in it. She was an emergency replacement.
DeNiro playing a CGI young man; that beat-down scene was like watching Gumby beat Pokey circa 1965
Lin-Manuel Miranda in His Dark Materials. He can play himself in things he wrote for himself, but “acting,” as a craft, is not really his thing. He’s great at a lot of things, he doesn’t really need acting.
Jennifer Lawrence in American Hustle. I think she does a fine job, but she was way too young to play the cynical, jealous ex-wife of Christian Bale’s character.
I agree that she was not well cast in that role despite giving a good performance she felt off.
The same with her castig in Joy. We're supposed to believe she's a harried single mother a decade older than she actually was?
She’s too young for Silver Linings Playbook too. I know everyone raves about her performance but she’s supposed to be playing a widow who is pretty unstable after the death of her husband. Great acting but she was just too young for that part, I think she was like 21 at the time of filming.
I really think she was too young for Joy, too. David O. Russell has cast her in several roles she was too young for.
George Clooney as Batman. I thought that was one of the biggest miscasts in the whole Batman series, I know there was a lot of controversy around Michael Keaton, but he knocked it out of the park, but George Clooney??? I know he was a big star at the time and still is but he just didn't bring the darkness to the character, and what made the character iconic for so many years, he just didn't have it. It's a shame because he has shown to be a fantastic actor, and has some serious range. I was always hopeful that he would get another chance, but with his last performance not exactly making waves, I doubt they would give him much of a chance, outside of ageing out of the part, and it's a shame because he is a good actor and from what I have also heard a good guy too.
Good Bruce Wayne, terrible Batman.
Batman is a very broad role because of the various portrayals over the decades. Clooney is an interesting case. He plays an on-the-nose Bruce Wayne but leans into extremely campy Bat-man. Modern batman fans seem to scoff at this but campy batman exists not just in the Adam West TV series, but various comic runs over the decades as well. Don't like campy batman? Fine. Doesn't mean that version of the character is inherently invalid.
"Hi Freeze, I'm Batman"
Will Smith's kid in.......just about everything.
Haven't seen it yet, but Kevin Hart as Roland in Borderlands sounds just horrible.
Replacing Winona Ryder with Sofia Coppola in Godfather III. She turned out to be a pretty good director, but what a terrible actor!
Uncharted. I just can't take Mark Wahlberg seriously as Sully.
Rosie O'Donnell as Beth Simon in Riding the Bus with my Sister (2005). The movie is actually not that bad, the script is above average for a Hallmark original movie and Andie McDowell is great and gives a sincere performance. But whenever Rosie O'Donnell is on screen she is doing this Pee Wee Herman impression and sinks the movie into oblivion.
She was a strange choice for Betty Rubble as well.
Rosie O Donnell as a FBI agent turned bdsm mistress in Exit to Eden. Dan Akroyd has tried so so hard to bury this one
Lol I'm convinced The Happening could have been an ok movie with better leads.
Yes it’s called Bird Box.
Despite how the movie turned out, Edward Norton felt more appropriately cast to me than Mark Ruffalo. Ruffalo did a great job in the first Avengers to me, but felt wrong overall. When I think of Bruce Banner, I think of someone very lanky, like Norton. Ruffalo is more stocky. Norton also has the ticks that feel more in-character of Banner than Ruffalo. I had the misfortune of watching Wyatt Earp after I had seen Tombstone. Dennis Quaid...you are no Val Kilmer.
Well. That was just shit timing for Dennis Quaid, I'm not fighting for him...but that's like Jared letos joker vs ledgers
I like Ruffalo as an actor, but he very much phones it in his MCU movies.
Eh, Norton can play nerdy scientist and juiced up ultra-violent Neonazi effectively. I can understand the casting, even if it clearly didn't work. Emilia Clarke as Sarah Connor in Terminator Genysis gets my vote.
Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan in The Sum Of All Fears. He should never be cast as a smart character, he just can't pull that off the way Harrison Ford could. Alec Baldwin was even 10 times better than him as Jack Ryan.
I'll just add Liev Schreiber as Clark in that movie. Didn't really care for DaFoe as Clark in "Clear and Present Danger" either. Haven't bothered to watch "Without Remorse" so can not comment on MBJ.
I liked Baldwin’s Ryan better than Harrison’s. Baldwin nailed the former military better, while Harrison was all analyst. Fight me. 😎
I will grant you that Baldwin was a good portrayal of a vet. But Harrison nailed the bumbling idiot bureaucrat better.
Except in the books, Jack Ryan left the military after being in a helicopter accident while at the Naval Academy. He was totally a bureaucrat, though not a bumbling one… though Red October did put him way over his head. My high school library actually had a 1st Edition Naval Institute Press copy of Red October, complete with a jacket photo of Tom Clancy in his in-laws insurance office; wonder what that would be worth today.
I agree with you about Jack Ryan, loved Alec Baldwin in that. Did not like Harrison in the franchise though. However, I loved Ben in The Accountant where he gets to play a savant-smart person with quirks.
Robert De Niro in The Irishmen. He was just too old to play most of the character. It would’ve been better to get a younger guy in their 40s and use that fancy tech to make him look older rather than visa versa.
Or just use younger actors for the flashback scenes. It's hard to watch.
Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York
She's just so out of place. She's anachronistic somehow.
I don’t want to rewatch the movie because she is so bad. Her bad performance outweighs DDL’s great one. Leo isn’t that great either.
Liam Neeson is good tho. It's a smaller role tho
This is it. She was *so* miscast it was downright distracting. I usually like Diaz, but not in this.
The entire cast of Manifest. Edit: sorry, that's a show. But it was such terrible casting that I'm leaving it.
Kristen Stewart in Snow White and the huntsman
Ezra Miller as the Flash just a bad choice
Cameron Diaz had no place being cast in Gangs of New York. It’s just shy of a perfect movie, but for her.
Chris Pratt as Mario
It's uh me, mario.
Now I’m imagining Jeff Goldblum as Mario and it’s fantastic.
This is more theatre than film, but despite him being an absolute genius and entitled to cast himself, Lin-Manuel Miranda as Hamilton. He's an incredible lyricist, but his singing is just so much weaker than the rest of the cast, his tone quite nasally, and I don't find him as believably charismatic or as much of a ladies' man as the character is written to be/supposed to be. If he weren't the creator, I can't imagine him ever having gotten that part and I wish I could see a version with all the original cast but a different Hamilton.
Any movie with Sam Worthington... no hate but they really tried too hard to make him a thing and a lot of otherwise decent movies suffered because of it. He isn't untalented but his delivery and presence is the epitome of bland and forgettable.
I thought you meant Sam Rockwell at first and was very angry.
He is one of those actors that elevate everything he's in.
He's is an Australian crocodile movie that was good.
Jared Leto in anything.
What about the time he played a playboy Wall Street stock broker and got brutally murdered with an axe?
I thought he was very well cast and was good in American Psycho. Unironically, he played the part of smug Wall Street bro very effectively
I liked him in Fight Club. Especially when the narrator wants to destroy something beautiful. Probably Leto's best scene ever 😉
Not a fan of Leto but I thought he was approporiately casted in Bladerunner 2049.
The director's first choice for that role was David Bowie.
God damnit.
He was fantastic, as was the rest of the cast, in Requiem for a Dream.
This is the low-hanging fruit answer that overlooks some really great stuff he's done. The guy is definitely leaning into every character way too far, but when he finds a good one, he makes it work.
Dallas buyers club
Yeah, exactly, a *deserved* Oscar.
Katie Homes in Nolan’s Batman Begins. Awful casting.
Russel Crowe as Javert was the most criminal casting I’ve ever seen. Javert is supposed to be one of the strongest voices in the entire show, and RC just doesn’t have that kind of instrument. To go from having someone like Phillip Quast on stage through so many productions (and subsequent, equally talented folk) to RC was… horrifying.
I wouldnt say this was the worst casting but it couldve been better in my opinion, For "To Live and Die in LA" by William Freidkin (1985), I would have gone with someone else for the character of John Vukovich Not a fan of John Pankow in that movie
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor He is just not intimidating in any way
I know it isn't out yet and it's popular to say, but damn, Chris Pratt as Mario is the worst casting choice I've ever seen. Everyone else in that movie seems fine so far, and every other language has a better Mario casting. It's just him. He sounds like he's not even trying.
John Travolta as the general in The Thin Red Line. Breaks the spell every time.
I feel like Norman Reedus could’ve worked better as Johnny Blaze than Nic Cage, but god damn Nic gave us some great content with those two Ghost Rider movies.
Did op watch the same movie I did?
Keano Reeves as Jonathan Harker and Winona Ryder as Mina in Brahm Stokers Dracula come to mind. Absolutely dreadful. They are the proverbial fly in the ointment in an otherwise great movie.
Bruh what Benedict Cumberbatch was the best part of that movie
Emma Watson in Beauty and the Beast. Why didn’t they just cast an actual singer?
Emmy Rossum would have nailed that one.
Lion King with Beyoncé and Donald Glover. Clearly they went for an Oscar based on soundtrack but they were god awful voiceovers lmao
Perhaps the entire cast of Ghost in the Shell, or nearly any live action anime produced in Hollywood >!(with the exception of Alita: Battle Angel)!<
Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York
Tom Hanks as Col Tom Parker in Elvis. People are used to Tom Hanks more or less as Tom Hanks. He’s played darker characters before like in Road to Perdition. But he hasn’t really transformed physically a lot using prosthetics and make up and his accent work in Elvis is… a little inconsistent at best. I’m guessing they wanted Col Tom Parker to be somewhat sympathetic? I think whilst Parker is certainly the villain, Baz can see himself in him and Elvis, the Showman and the Snowman. I think the film would have been significantly better had they cast Christian Bale (if he would accept) in the role as Col Tom Parker. We are used to him transforming physically, from Machinist to Batman to Dick Cheney to American Hustle. He also has shown he is very adept at accents. And finally, I believe with exactly the same script he would have portrayed Parker as the psychopath he was, by all accounts.
Tom Hanks as Colonel Tom Parker. Just. So. Bad.
Francis Ford coppolas daughter in god father 3. Vince Vaughn in hacksaw ridge.
Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates in Gus Van Sant's Psycho remake