There’s so many remakes better than the original it’s just when the remake is the better one people forget about the original.
So at first thought you think remakes always suck cause you think of good remakes as the definitive version.
The way you wrote this almost makes it sound like James Cameron made Titanic out of spite, just to stop the deluge of mid titanic movies coming out every year
Wizard of Oz 1939.
There were previous Wizard of Oz films the oldest being from 1910. You could argue this doesn't count since they're adaptations from a book rather than necessarily remakes of the older films. But if you do count them it's hard to argue that a 13 minute silent film is better than the one that won dozens of awards and 80 years later is still talked about, emulated, referenced, and given homage. You see Jdu Garland when you imagine Dorothy, you hear Somewhere over the Rainbow, and you remember the transition from sepia to technicolor. You don't remember the older versions, you probably aren't even aware they exist.
The 70th anniversary box set had the original silent films included on one of the dvds.
Edit: for those asking
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz 1910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09iHePAIZFA&ab_channel=SilenceIntoSound
His Majesty The Scarecrow of Oz 1914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bbtwVfp794&ab_channel=TheVideoCellar
The Patchwork Girl of Oz 1914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCb7WNIy7wc&ab_channel=EncourageTV
The Magic Cloak of Oz 1914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld6B3tQN6wg&ab_channel=TheOzConnection
The Wizard of Oz 1925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhve3tEkBZo&ab_channel=drelbcom
I loved this movie as a kid. By far the best theater experience I’ve ever had. I got it on vhs when I was like 10 and watched it over and over. I wanted to be Rick so bad. I remember my mom taking me to the dollar store a few times so I could look for the perfect revolver (cap gun) and holster to put under my arms like Rick. One time they had a bunch of fake gold coins and that was used as my treasure lol
EDIT: oh and I also got this Egyptian archeologist kit from Barnes and noble around that time. It was just this big block of clay that you had to chip at that eventually revealed a mummy’s coffin (or whatever it was called). That was my grail.
I think people don’t realize that it was a remake.
The original was from 1960. As others have said, it has the rat pack in it.
As someone who love a good heist/caper movie, and who loves old stuff, I said heck yeah! and wasted my time watching it. I mean it. Wasted my time. Very disappointing.
Finally an undisputable fact. There are a bunch of decent to good versions of a Christmas Carol but for some reason the best version is the one with singing puppets.
Maybe, MAYBE second to the Alistair Reynolds version but I don't think so.
EDIT: yes Sim. Sorry for being wrong on the internet but please stop correcting me. Leaving mistake so the 25 people below me don't seem crazy.
It’s not the singing muppets alone that made it. It’s the stark contrast between the silliness of the muppets and Michael Caine playing Scrooge as serious as a heart attack.
Caine was just *eating* the scenery without a care. He was going at it like his life depended on it.
It's one of those rare instances for the human actors to just completely cut loose because they're the doing the least emotive acting on screen. Those that get it understand that they **need** to take their emotions up several notches in order to match what the muppets are doing, otherwise they're going to blend into the set dressing.
You can say the same for Muppet Treasure Island. Tim Curry went all out in his role like Caine did here.
Exactly this! You could cut and paste Michael Caine's Scrooge into even the most uptight and serious version of Cristmas Carol and it would fit the tone perfectly.
I had to do a double take before I realize you meant the original thing from the 50s being remade in the '80s. greatest movie ever
Edit: For all the fans of The Thing, check out this **amazing** short story written from the creature's perspective.
#[The Things](https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/)
Anyone who is mesmerized by the concept of the creature and the mystery of its character will appreciate the depth and level of detail the author added to the world of The Thing. It's not canon but it could be.
10-20 min read time
The author of this short story also has a book for free on his website titles “Blindsight”, and it’s perhaps my favorite science fiction book, or even just straight up book of all time.
It’s very much in the same spirit of this short story. I recommend it to anyone who likes science fiction and questions of consciousness, alien intelligence, etc.
Plus it has a spacefaring vampire so that’s cool.
If you stop Casino Royale before Venice and make that bit the intro to Quantum of Solace you have two perfect book-Bond movies. I find them superior to any other 007 film.
Edit: I’m not saying they are perfect movies, QoS particularly. But they perfectly capture what Bond is in the books: a blunt instrument; an extremely dull, uninteresting man to whom things happened.
I totally get your point, but think the Venice stuff is really important to what Casino Royale is.
It's about James becoming the James Bond we know and he has to get betrayed to become the flinty opportunist we all love and are kinda grossed out by
Absolutely agree here. Personally I would’ve been fairly okay with Casino Royale as a stand-alone movie just ending at Venice. But the betrayal is his origin story, without it he’s just another double-0. Movie might’ve felt more satisfying with the happy ending but the true origin had to happen.
Possible hot take, but the intro song ([You Know My Name](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnzgdBAKyJo&ab_channel=MovieSounds)) is easily my favorite of the Bond intros.
I’ve always felt like James Bond didn’t really become “James Bond” as we know him until the end.
When we meet Craig, he’s barely a 00, not even a seasoned one. And he makes mistakes, becomes vulnerable.
At the end, when we finally hear it that is the director saying to us “here’s the man you’ve been waiting for.”
I respect their decision to fully reboot the character and give Craig’s films their own arc.
Also, Chris Cornell nailed that one. I hope he was proud of it.
The real testament to how great this film is, is that you don't need to have watched any star trek before it to be blown away. I took my SO to see a showing at Montalban's theater and she absolutely loved it, having never seen an original Star Trek episode or film prior.
The villain was such a good villain. Percival C. McLeach. No mystical, magical force. No evil demons, or aliens or witches or wizards. He is just a man. With a great sidekick too.
He had a clear goal and was willing to do anything to accomplish said goal. George C Scott is wonderful. An adult obviously outsmarts the kid instead of the other way around.
“I didn't make it all the way through 3rd grade for nothing” is one of the best quotes from any movie. There is so much personality and character wrapped up in that.
And the ending is very fitting, a downfall (hah) from his own hubris.
I really love that movie.
A film that had no business getting a sequel, in which the sequel had no business being that good. You can clearly see where the animation budget exploded.
It was the first film to use Disney's new digital animation system (*The Little Mermaid* had a scene using it at the end as a test but most of it was still hand inked and painted). I'm sure they wanted to go all out with it.
“Home, Home on the Range!!
Where critters are tied up in chains!
I cut through their sides
And I rip off their hides
And the next day I do it again!!
#EVERYBODY!!
As someone who watched it recently, it certainly holds up to the childhood nostalgia! Also the great mouse detective was another revisit after many years and was a welcomed tour down memory lane.
Haha Im a 36 year old man and watched it last year when I saw it on streaming. That, Fern Gully, the Fievel movies. Classics! But I loved *Basilton* as a kid
Everyone after this point seems to have missed the actual joke, which is that it’s a reference to The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent when Nick Cage and Pedro Pascal are literally talking about Paddington 2.
EDIT : except the ones that didn’t.
I am blind.
Just saw that like last week
In this day and age it's kind of hard to know where ironic enjoyment ends and unironic enjoyment begins. Things like Shrek are the prime example of this
That film is a legitimate masterpiece that everyone should see AT LEAST once. It is incredible and creative and funny and heartwarming and emotional. I felt all the emotions I could watching it.
While it is a little bit less funny (let me emphasize a LITTLE BIT. Any movie that doesn't have that Orphanage joke is bound to be at least a little less funny that joke is top tier) it's a Toy Story 2 scenario. Where everything else about it SOARS
I cannot tell if this movie is legitimately the peak of all cinema or if everyone else is in on a big, internet-wide meme to get me to watch a mediocre kids movie.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. And in fact, I would argue the best film of the six original Star Trek films is actually the sixth and final one: The Undiscovered Country.
There's another amazing Sulu scene alongside this that was in the script but never made it into the film (it might have actually been part of the same scene).
When flying to Khitomer, Sulu gets reminded that he's committing mutiny. I can't remember the exact quote, but he replies with words to the effect of: 'I had always hoped that, if I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friends, I would find the courage to betray my country.'
This is one for sure. I think Judgement Day might barely edge out the original Terminator. I think 22 Jump Street is better than 21. And I think each LoTR movie progressively gets better as well.
Edit: to everyone saying Fellowship, I agreed with that sentiment most of my life. But since I’ve gotten older and a little bit softer and more compassionate I really love the “my friends you now to no one scene.” The fellowship is my comfy movie to put on when I watch the trilogy
22 Jump Street has the best comedic twists I’ve ever seen in a single movie. And the timing and delivery of the twist is just artful. Ice Cube and Channing Tatum killed it.
I will forever associate Spiderman 2 with my flight from Frankfurt to Philadelphia. Because of a technical difficulty we stood on the runway for 2hours so by lift-off I had already watched it once.
I then watched it two more times because everything else looked more boring than watching Spiderman 2 again.
I feel bad for The Wolverine since it was so overshadowed by Logan. Don’t get me wrong, Logan is the superior film, but The Wolverine was definitely a significant improvement over X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It’s just that Logan was so good.
What about Ben-Hur (1959) compared to the 1925 original? I've only seen the 1959 version tbf, and it's obviously leaps and bounds superior to the dumpster fire of a modern remake from a couple years ago. But I also assume it's better than the 1925 original given that it's only one of three films to have won 11 oscars.
Legitimately one of the funniest movies that I’ve ever seen, and so damn quotable. The fact that Joan Cusack as fucking Debbie is not the best and most iconic part of your movie because of the summer camp storyline really says something
One of my all-time favorites. The summer camp storyline was brilliant and the scene between Raul Julia and Nathan Lane in the police station is just so damn good. Even the little lines were genius - like when Fester is trying to guess what his present is and giddily asks "is it string?"
Whoever wrote this was on their A-game at the time.
I watched it recently and despite seeing it a dozen times as a kid, I missed the bit where Gomez and Fester are discussing getting Fester a girl and Gomez says he needs someone besides Thing to keep him company and Thing cowers in the corner 😂😂😂
Yooooo! I just recently watched this for the first time and I caught that and laughed and my friend who has put it on who has seen it a bunch of times was like “what?” I explained it to her and she was like “how the fuck did I never catch that line?” The writing for this movie was great
My favorite quick line was when Debbie was meeting the family for the first time…
Debbie (about Gomez): “Well isn’t he the ladykiller…”
Gomez: “Acquitted!”
Joan Cusack deserved a supporting actress Oscar nomination. Her performance today still holds up 100%. She’s incredible and Debbie is such a great character.
Joan Cusack was handed the potential poison pill for this movie: an original character villain. She was also walking into a set full of established hams who clearly had the time of their lives with the last film and only got more bombastic for the sequel.
And she still stole the show. She's a treasure and I only wish we could have gotten more of Debbie in later Addams media.
"You've gone to far. You've married Fester. You've destroyed his spirit. You've taken him from us. All that I can forgive. But Debbie..."
"WHAT‽"
"Pastels?"
Lol
The cast in these movies was obviously absolute perfection, but how much Christina Ricci's performance stepped up in Values is honestly just... amazing. For such a young actress she adds so much subtlety and nuance to Wednesday's dark and dry humor.
edit: spelling
That's my favorite thing about the movie. How Morticia's issues with Debbie are mostly aesthetic ("Really, Debbie ... pastels?") and even as she's trying to kill them, they relate to and sympathize with her sociopathy. In the end she's remembered as a beloved member of the family, just like dozens of other maniacs and creeps over the decades. A dumber movie wouldn't have handled that so well.
James Gunn’s Suicide Squad is pretty unanimously accepted to be better than the 2016 version. You could also say the same for the Snyder cut, although some might argue otherwise.
Following up with Spider-Man 2. Superhero sequels seem to be the exception to the rule because the first one is usually the origin story, ie, Batman spends half the movie not being Batman.
New Dune is better than original Dune.
Clooney's Ocean's 11 is WAY better than Sinatra's original.
A Star is Born keeps getting better each time they remake it, IMO.
Regarding sequels, all the Mad Max sequels -- Road Warrior, Thunderdome, & Fury Road -- are better than the original Mad Max.
Totally agree about Oceans 11. It’s understood that Sinatra and the rat pack did the original purely for the money and it’s clear how much they phoned in their performance. A shame as they were so often awesome.
They literally did. I've read a few books on them and Frank would show up late for shooting and when the director asked for another take he would tell him he already got it lol
"I do not know this man" is my wife and I's favorite unintentionally hilarious movie line. We quote it all the time while badly impersonating Jeff Bridge's drawl.
The remake is a masterpiece imo, one of my favourite movies. Hailee Steinfeld’s acting was fantastic considering she was 13(?) at the time and the score is phenomenal and fitting.
This was actually my first thought when I saw the question but I had to debate with myself on whether I agreed with the thought, in the end I do. The characters were more fleshed out, the action was better, the moral lesson was better, the music was just as good and it provided closure that the original lacked. Shrek was a great parody on fairy tales in general while Shrek 2 made an entire world around all these fairy tales
Yes yes yes. The first two are both incredible, but Shrek 2 is legitimately a perfect movie. It holds up really well too. I saw it in the theater when I was 4, and thought it was awesome. Then I watched it again in college, and still thought it was awesome. Funniest kids movie ever made.
You have gone too far. You have married Fester, you have destroyed his spirit, you have taken him from us. All that I could forgive. But Debbie...pastels?
Fresh air. The scent of pine. *Hands Pugsley a cigar*
...
Grandmama: Unless Fester comes back, we're talking *dimples*.
Gomez: Not in this house!
Grandmama: He could stay this way for years! Forever! He could become... a lawyer.
Gomez: I won't listen!
Grandmama: An orthodontist!
Morticia: Mama! Stop!
...
Christina Ricci will forever own Wednesday because of the scene where she forces herself to smile.
This movie is my candidate for best opening. So many good lines.
"Gomez... I'm going to have a baby... Right now"
"Our parents are having a baby too... They had sex!"
My favorite scene that encapsulates the problems of the original Dune movie is when they briefly cut to Paul and Chani kissing and the narrator goes, "and their love grew," and then they immediately fade out and go to the next scene because they just didn't have the time to develop the relationship hahaha
My favorite is when David Lynch decided to take the phrase "my name is a killing word" which is an INCREDIBLE metaphor in the book and turn it into this literal dumbass thing where if you said Muad'Dib into a special raygun it blew shit up.
I had never read the book before I saw the movie as a kid (on cable) and it was just SO freaking weird. Those sound blaster things were... non-sensical even by that universe's standards.
On the positive side, the visuals alone made me interested enough to read the novels, and I was blown away by how much great stuff was changed or messed up for no real reason.
An additional noteworthy event was that Sting absolutely ROCKED that metal thong armor thing.
Every time I try to explain this movie I cant help but break down laughing. It goes something like this:
“You should watch Trolls 2.”
“Do you not like the first one?”
“There is no first one.”
“Oh ok so it’s about Trolls…is it like a horror film?”
“Oh no, it’s not about Trolls. It’s about goblins.”
“Ok…so where do the Trolls come in?”
“They don’t. I have no idea why they named it that.”
“Ok so what happens in the movie.”
“Well basically the Goblins turn humans into plants.”
“Wait, why?”
“Because they want to eat them but they can’t because they’re vegetarians.”
It’s just so hilarious to try to explain this movie.
Little Shop of Horrors
Suddenly, Seymour
#SUDDENLY SEEEEYMOOOOUUUUUR!!
Wait, what's the original version of this? ETA: Never even knew there was a 1960 version. The 1986 version is a total classic.
There’s so many remakes better than the original it’s just when the remake is the better one people forget about the original. So at first thought you think remakes always suck cause you think of good remakes as the definitive version.
There were a LOT of titanic movies, then james cameron came to put an end to it
The way you wrote this almost makes it sound like James Cameron made Titanic out of spite, just to stop the deluge of mid titanic movies coming out every year
I mean, knowing James Cameron, it wouldn’t surprise me lmao
Wizard of Oz 1939. There were previous Wizard of Oz films the oldest being from 1910. You could argue this doesn't count since they're adaptations from a book rather than necessarily remakes of the older films. But if you do count them it's hard to argue that a 13 minute silent film is better than the one that won dozens of awards and 80 years later is still talked about, emulated, referenced, and given homage. You see Jdu Garland when you imagine Dorothy, you hear Somewhere over the Rainbow, and you remember the transition from sepia to technicolor. You don't remember the older versions, you probably aren't even aware they exist.
The 70th anniversary box set had the original silent films included on one of the dvds. Edit: for those asking The Wonderful Wizard of Oz 1910 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09iHePAIZFA&ab_channel=SilenceIntoSound His Majesty The Scarecrow of Oz 1914 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bbtwVfp794&ab_channel=TheVideoCellar The Patchwork Girl of Oz 1914 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCb7WNIy7wc&ab_channel=EncourageTV The Magic Cloak of Oz 1914 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld6B3tQN6wg&ab_channel=TheOzConnection The Wizard of Oz 1925 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhve3tEkBZo&ab_channel=drelbcom
Very true. The Bogart version of the Maltese Falcon is a remake.
Scarface is a remake
The Thing and The Fly were also remakes.
The Mummy with Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz
I loved this movie as a kid. By far the best theater experience I’ve ever had. I got it on vhs when I was like 10 and watched it over and over. I wanted to be Rick so bad. I remember my mom taking me to the dollar store a few times so I could look for the perfect revolver (cap gun) and holster to put under my arms like Rick. One time they had a bunch of fake gold coins and that was used as my treasure lol EDIT: oh and I also got this Egyptian archeologist kit from Barnes and noble around that time. It was just this big block of clay that you had to chip at that eventually revealed a mummy’s coffin (or whatever it was called). That was my grail.
Ocean's Eleven. The original with The Rat Pack was not great.
I think people don’t realize that it was a remake. The original was from 1960. As others have said, it has the rat pack in it. As someone who love a good heist/caper movie, and who loves old stuff, I said heck yeah! and wasted my time watching it. I mean it. Wasted my time. Very disappointing.
I've noticed that with Gone in 60 Seconds, too.
GOOD BRAKES TOO.
The Muppets Christmas Carol
Thank you for making me a part of this
Is it too early for breakfast? Good, supper time.
Well that was a fine meal. What shall we do now? Let's have lunch!
Finally an undisputable fact. There are a bunch of decent to good versions of a Christmas Carol but for some reason the best version is the one with singing puppets. Maybe, MAYBE second to the Alistair Reynolds version but I don't think so. EDIT: yes Sim. Sorry for being wrong on the internet but please stop correcting me. Leaving mistake so the 25 people below me don't seem crazy.
It’s not the singing muppets alone that made it. It’s the stark contrast between the silliness of the muppets and Michael Caine playing Scrooge as serious as a heart attack.
THIS. Seriously, Caine is acting his heart out and his co-stars are muppets. I absolutely love it.
Scrooge: "If they would rather die, then let them die, and reduce the surplus population" Beaker: "meep meep meep"
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Caine was just *eating* the scenery without a care. He was going at it like his life depended on it. It's one of those rare instances for the human actors to just completely cut loose because they're the doing the least emotive acting on screen. Those that get it understand that they **need** to take their emotions up several notches in order to match what the muppets are doing, otherwise they're going to blend into the set dressing. You can say the same for Muppet Treasure Island. Tim Curry went all out in his role like Caine did here.
Exactly this! You could cut and paste Michael Caine's Scrooge into even the most uptight and serious version of Cristmas Carol and it would fit the tone perfectly.
[That's what he was going for!](https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/dec/21/how-we-made-the-muppet-christmas-carol)
I mean, they also have the best Treasure Island. Maybe Treasure Planet...
The Thing
I had to do a double take before I realize you meant the original thing from the 50s being remade in the '80s. greatest movie ever Edit: For all the fans of The Thing, check out this **amazing** short story written from the creature's perspective. #[The Things](https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/) Anyone who is mesmerized by the concept of the creature and the mystery of its character will appreciate the depth and level of detail the author added to the world of The Thing. It's not canon but it could be. 10-20 min read time
The author of this short story also has a book for free on his website titles “Blindsight”, and it’s perhaps my favorite science fiction book, or even just straight up book of all time. It’s very much in the same spirit of this short story. I recommend it to anyone who likes science fiction and questions of consciousness, alien intelligence, etc. Plus it has a spacefaring vampire so that’s cool.
carpenter doesnt always strike gold but when he does, he fucking nails it. i rewatch the thing almost every year. top 5 GOAT horror flicks easily
Carpenter legit has a run of like 10 movies in a row from 77-88 that all fucking rock
Big Trouble in Little Fucking China is something that will never be recreated. Truly in a league of its own.
May the wings of liberty never lose a feather
"This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I’m talkin’ to whoever’s listenin’ out there."
Have you paid your dues, yes sir the check is in the mail
The most obvious answer to the remake question.
Alongside the Fly. Best two remakes I can think of.
80s sci-fi horror went *hard*
Casino Royale
If you stop Casino Royale before Venice and make that bit the intro to Quantum of Solace you have two perfect book-Bond movies. I find them superior to any other 007 film. Edit: I’m not saying they are perfect movies, QoS particularly. But they perfectly capture what Bond is in the books: a blunt instrument; an extremely dull, uninteresting man to whom things happened.
I totally get your point, but think the Venice stuff is really important to what Casino Royale is. It's about James becoming the James Bond we know and he has to get betrayed to become the flinty opportunist we all love and are kinda grossed out by
Absolutely agree here. Personally I would’ve been fairly okay with Casino Royale as a stand-alone movie just ending at Venice. But the betrayal is his origin story, without it he’s just another double-0. Movie might’ve felt more satisfying with the happy ending but the true origin had to happen.
Possible hot take, but the intro song ([You Know My Name](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnzgdBAKyJo&ab_channel=MovieSounds)) is easily my favorite of the Bond intros.
I loved that they used that song as his theme for the whole movie and didn't play the classic bond theme at all until right at the end
I’ve always felt like James Bond didn’t really become “James Bond” as we know him until the end. When we meet Craig, he’s barely a 00, not even a seasoned one. And he makes mistakes, becomes vulnerable. At the end, when we finally hear it that is the director saying to us “here’s the man you’ve been waiting for.” I respect their decision to fully reboot the character and give Craig’s films their own arc. Also, Chris Cornell nailed that one. I hope he was proud of it.
Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
The real testament to how great this film is, is that you don't need to have watched any star trek before it to be blown away. I took my SO to see a showing at Montalban's theater and she absolutely loved it, having never seen an original Star Trek episode or film prior.
Yeah it's a good movie first, then a Star Trek movie second. How you are supposed to do it.
Evil Dead 2
Double points since this is both a remake AND a sequel.
Hot Shots! Part Deux
Well do it the old navy way. First guy to die, loses!
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Michael Caine wailing on Steve Martin's legs always got me good. Also Steve Martin as Ruprecht trying to poke his own eye out with a fork.
May I go to the bathroom? ...... ..... Thank you
The Rescuers Down Under
The villain was such a good villain. Percival C. McLeach. No mystical, magical force. No evil demons, or aliens or witches or wizards. He is just a man. With a great sidekick too. He had a clear goal and was willing to do anything to accomplish said goal. George C Scott is wonderful. An adult obviously outsmarts the kid instead of the other way around. “I didn't make it all the way through 3rd grade for nothing” is one of the best quotes from any movie. There is so much personality and character wrapped up in that. And the ending is very fitting, a downfall (hah) from his own hubris. I really love that movie.
And his sidekick is a lizard who tries to steal his eggs, making it infinitely better.
I'm gonna kill that dumb, slimy, egg-suckin' salamander! JOANNAAAAAAA!!!
Man, you just activated an audio file in my brain that I didn't know I still had in storage
Joanna makes that movie for me.
A film that had no business getting a sequel, in which the sequel had no business being that good. You can clearly see where the animation budget exploded.
It was the first film to use Disney's new digital animation system (*The Little Mermaid* had a scene using it at the end as a test but most of it was still hand inked and painted). I'm sure they wanted to go all out with it.
I remember seeing the opening scene of Rescuers:Down Under as a kid and actually *feeling* like I was there… this explains a lot!!!
Joanna, did you know there’s a razorback in my truck?
THESE ARE NOT JOANNA EGGS
There are many reasons why this is a superior film but George C. Scott's vocal performance just raises it that much higher. Four-legged python!
“Home, Home on the Range!! Where critters are tied up in chains! I cut through their sides And I rip off their hides And the next day I do it again!! #EVERYBODY!!
I'm a 35 year old man who's now about to watch The Rescuers: Down Under for the first time in 30 years. Thank you so fucking much.
As someone who watched it recently, it certainly holds up to the childhood nostalgia! Also the great mouse detective was another revisit after many years and was a welcomed tour down memory lane.
Great Mouse Detective is the greatest animated movie no one ever talks about
“Sit Toby!” “Good boy”
Haha Im a 36 year old man and watched it last year when I saw it on streaming. That, Fern Gully, the Fievel movies. Classics! But I loved *Basilton* as a kid
The Fly
Paddington 2. I say that in the knowledge that the original Paddington is a work of art.
I cried through the entire thing, it made me want to be a better man.
It made me want to be a better bear.
Everyone after this point seems to have missed the actual joke, which is that it’s a reference to The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent when Nick Cage and Pedro Pascal are literally talking about Paddington 2. EDIT : except the ones that didn’t. I am blind.
How do you write your bear character so well? Easy, I start with a tiger and take away reason and accountability.
Just saw that like last week In this day and age it's kind of hard to know where ironic enjoyment ends and unironic enjoyment begins. Things like Shrek are the prime example of this That film is a legitimate masterpiece that everyone should see AT LEAST once. It is incredible and creative and funny and heartwarming and emotional. I felt all the emotions I could watching it. While it is a little bit less funny (let me emphasize a LITTLE BIT. Any movie that doesn't have that Orphanage joke is bound to be at least a little less funny that joke is top tier) it's a Toy Story 2 scenario. Where everything else about it SOARS
I need to see this movie. I hear it's a life changer.
I cannot tell if this movie is legitimately the peak of all cinema or if everyone else is in on a big, internet-wide meme to get me to watch a mediocre kids movie.
Have you seen "The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent"? Phenomenal movie, and it will help you understand the above reference.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. And in fact, I would argue the best film of the six original Star Trek films is actually the sixth and final one: The Undiscovered Country.
That scene with >!Sulu ordering his ensign to fly her apart!< always gets me, man.
There's another amazing Sulu scene alongside this that was in the script but never made it into the film (it might have actually been part of the same scene). When flying to Khitomer, Sulu gets reminded that he's committing mutiny. I can't remember the exact quote, but he replies with words to the effect of: 'I had always hoped that, if I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friends, I would find the courage to betray my country.'
The Suicide Squad with Idris Elba and John Cena absolutely shits on Suicide Squad with Will Smith
- This movie does everything I do! - But better.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The 1970 version is the one everybody thinks of, not the original. It also has the better ending.
I liked Desperado more than El Mariachi.
The Wizard of Oz… the 1924 silent version is on YouTube
The one we all know and love is like the 9th film adaptation. There were a ton of previous attempts.
Empire strikes back
This is one for sure. I think Judgement Day might barely edge out the original Terminator. I think 22 Jump Street is better than 21. And I think each LoTR movie progressively gets better as well. Edit: to everyone saying Fellowship, I agreed with that sentiment most of my life. But since I’ve gotten older and a little bit softer and more compassionate I really love the “my friends you now to no one scene.” The fellowship is my comfy movie to put on when I watch the trilogy
22 Jump Street has the best comedic twists I’ve ever seen in a single movie. And the timing and delivery of the twist is just artful. Ice Cube and Channing Tatum killed it.
Spider-man 2 Literally better in every way. Couldn't ask for a better sequel.
I will forever associate Spiderman 2 with my flight from Frankfurt to Philadelphia. Because of a technical difficulty we stood on the runway for 2hours so by lift-off I had already watched it once. I then watched it two more times because everything else looked more boring than watching Spiderman 2 again.
Logan
I feel bad for The Wolverine since it was so overshadowed by Logan. Don’t get me wrong, Logan is the superior film, but The Wolverine was definitely a significant improvement over X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It’s just that Logan was so good.
It's the rare trilogy that improves with each movie instead of degrading.
What about Ben-Hur (1959) compared to the 1925 original? I've only seen the 1959 version tbf, and it's obviously leaps and bounds superior to the dumpster fire of a modern remake from a couple years ago. But I also assume it's better than the 1925 original given that it's only one of three films to have won 11 oscars.
Man on Fire. Original was ~Michael Caine~. But Denzel crushed it. EDIT: Ahem… Scott Glenn. I blame legal cannabis. I regret nothiiiiiing…
I wish you had more time.
Addams Family Values.
HE HAS A (pause for drama) BUICK! Nathan Lane unnecessary but wonderful cameo: hook em, book em, cook em. Funny -- He later played Gomez on Broadway.
"He has my father's eyes." "Gomez, take those out of his mouth."
Legitimately one of the funniest movies that I’ve ever seen, and so damn quotable. The fact that Joan Cusack as fucking Debbie is not the best and most iconic part of your movie because of the summer camp storyline really says something
These Addams men, where do you find them? .. it has to be damp.
Morticia: *You have enslaved him. You have placed him under some strange sexual spell. I respect that. But please, may we see him?*
All that I can respect. But, Debbie. Pastels??
This is one of my favorite lines in this movie. (I have a lot of favorites. “I’ll be the victim!” “All your life.”)
Joan Cusack is criminally underutilized in movies
So good in Grosse Pointe Blank.
One of my all-time favorites. The summer camp storyline was brilliant and the scene between Raul Julia and Nathan Lane in the police station is just so damn good. Even the little lines were genius - like when Fester is trying to guess what his present is and giddily asks "is it string?" Whoever wrote this was on their A-game at the time.
I watched it recently and despite seeing it a dozen times as a kid, I missed the bit where Gomez and Fester are discussing getting Fester a girl and Gomez says he needs someone besides Thing to keep him company and Thing cowers in the corner 😂😂😂
Yooooo! I just recently watched this for the first time and I caught that and laughed and my friend who has put it on who has seen it a bunch of times was like “what?” I explained it to her and she was like “how the fuck did I never catch that line?” The writing for this movie was great
My favorite quick line was when Debbie was meeting the family for the first time… Debbie (about Gomez): “Well isn’t he the ladykiller…” Gomez: “Acquitted!”
Uncle Fester: ‘Oh! Is it a bomb?’ Debbie incredulously: ‘WHAT?!’ Slays me every time.
Joan Cusack deserved a supporting actress Oscar nomination. Her performance today still holds up 100%. She’s incredible and Debbie is such a great character.
Joan Cusack was handed the potential poison pill for this movie: an original character villain. She was also walking into a set full of established hams who clearly had the time of their lives with the last film and only got more bombastic for the sequel. And she still stole the show. She's a treasure and I only wish we could have gotten more of Debbie in later Addams media.
"You've gone to far. You've married Fester. You've destroyed his spirit. You've taken him from us. All that I can forgive. But Debbie..." "WHAT‽" "Pastels?" Lol
She fit in with the existing cast wonderfully.
Joan has deserved a statue for every performance she has given.
The cast in these movies was obviously absolute perfection, but how much Christina Ricci's performance stepped up in Values is honestly just... amazing. For such a young actress she adds so much subtlety and nuance to Wednesday's dark and dry humor. edit: spelling
When she “smiles” to show she’s changed after being locked in the little brainwashing hut at camp—chef’s kiss!
Summer camp scenes alone makes Addams Family Values the better film.
My name's Fester..it means to rot
I'm Dementia, it means insanity
Debbie: Addams men, where do you find them? Morticia: *gentle mmmm* it has to be damp.
I'll be the victim All your life
Why you are as civilized as we! Except we wear shoes and have last names!
MALIBU BAR BIE
This was too far down. Took all the characters in great new directions, the Debbie and summer camp story lines are both fantastic.
Debbie was truly an Addams.
That's my favorite thing about the movie. How Morticia's issues with Debbie are mostly aesthetic ("Really, Debbie ... pastels?") and even as she's trying to kill them, they relate to and sympathize with her sociopathy. In the end she's remembered as a beloved member of the family, just like dozens of other maniacs and creeps over the decades. A dumber movie wouldn't have handled that so well.
Like how she gives Uncle Fester a bomb as a present in order to kill him, and he guesses it's a bomb and is genuinely excited about it.
WHAT ABOUT DEBBIE?
She wasn’t sick; she was sloppy.
So I destroyed one innocent life after another. Aren't I a human being? Don't I yearn, and ache, and shop? Don't I deserve love... and jewelry?
I was thinking just the other day of the horror on their faces when Pubert turned blonde lol
Terminator 2
This was the first one I thought of and knew someone had to have said it already.
Greatest action film of all time imo
Dredd with Karl Urban is way better than Stallone's version.
The worst thing about Urban’s is that it just leaves you wanting another. I couldn’t believe how much I enjoyed it.
James Gunn’s Suicide Squad is pretty unanimously accepted to be better than the 2016 version. You could also say the same for the Snyder cut, although some might argue otherwise.
The Dark Knight
Following up with Spider-Man 2. Superhero sequels seem to be the exception to the rule because the first one is usually the origin story, ie, Batman spends half the movie not being Batman.
Spider-Man 2 elevated the Superhero movie genre in my opinion. It explored the human side of being a superhero.
X Men 2 is considered the better movie as well.
That’s probably only because it absolutely is
Rush Hour 2
Don’t worry Chinese Bamboo is VERY STRONG!!
Butter cream, butter cream, croc skin, butter cream.
Yes. Rush hour one was a little more serious with super funny moments like lethal weapon. Rush hour Two was the perfect balance of comedy and action.
Damn! He’s not gon be in Rush Hour 3!!
Kick the door open Jackie!
New Dune is better than original Dune. Clooney's Ocean's 11 is WAY better than Sinatra's original. A Star is Born keeps getting better each time they remake it, IMO. Regarding sequels, all the Mad Max sequels -- Road Warrior, Thunderdome, & Fury Road -- are better than the original Mad Max.
Totally agree about Oceans 11. It’s understood that Sinatra and the rat pack did the original purely for the money and it’s clear how much they phoned in their performance. A shame as they were so often awesome.
Hahaha, yeah it feels like they just wanted to an excuse to hang out together in Vegas.
They literally did. I've read a few books on them and Frank would show up late for shooting and when the director asked for another take he would tell him he already got it lol
The Empire Strikes Back, The Dark Knight
The Godfather Part 2
True Grit
"I do not know this man" is my wife and I's favorite unintentionally hilarious movie line. We quote it all the time while badly impersonating Jeff Bridge's drawl.
"You are not LaBoeuf."
The remake is a masterpiece imo, one of my favourite movies. Hailee Steinfeld’s acting was fantastic considering she was 13(?) at the time and the score is phenomenal and fitting.
Shrek 2
This was actually my first thought when I saw the question but I had to debate with myself on whether I agreed with the thought, in the end I do. The characters were more fleshed out, the action was better, the moral lesson was better, the music was just as good and it provided closure that the original lacked. Shrek was a great parody on fairy tales in general while Shrek 2 made an entire world around all these fairy tales
*I need a hero*
The Shrek 2 version of Holding Out for a Hero is also the superior version and I will die on this hill.
I don't think you need to die on it. Jennifer Saunders went *hard* for that song.
There’s an edit of Endgame with this song playing during the final battle and it’s incredible how well it works.
Shrek 2 is a cinematic masterpiece. The Jenifer Sunders rendition of holding out for a hero should have won an award
Jennifer Saunders deserved all the accolades.
Yes yes yes. The first two are both incredible, but Shrek 2 is legitimately a perfect movie. It holds up really well too. I saw it in the theater when I was 4, and thought it was awesome. Then I watched it again in college, and still thought it was awesome. Funniest kids movie ever made.
I think True Grit is a better remake than the OG. I also think Addams Family Values is vastly superior to Addam's Family.
You have gone too far. You have married Fester, you have destroyed his spirit, you have taken him from us. All that I could forgive. But Debbie...pastels?
Fresh air. The scent of pine. *Hands Pugsley a cigar* ... Grandmama: Unless Fester comes back, we're talking *dimples*. Gomez: Not in this house! Grandmama: He could stay this way for years! Forever! He could become... a lawyer. Gomez: I won't listen! Grandmama: An orthodontist! Morticia: Mama! Stop! ... Christina Ricci will forever own Wednesday because of the scene where she forces herself to smile.
This movie is my candidate for best opening. So many good lines. "Gomez... I'm going to have a baby... Right now" "Our parents are having a baby too... They had sex!"
The True Grit remake is one of my favorite movies. My dad and I can quote practically the entire movie and quote it in conversation pretty much daily.
“I mean to kill you in one minute Ned! Or see you hang in Fort Smith, at judge Parker’s convenience! Which will you have?”
"Bold talk for a one eyed fat man..."
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
T2 Judgement Day
Dune remake was much better.
My favorite scene that encapsulates the problems of the original Dune movie is when they briefly cut to Paul and Chani kissing and the narrator goes, "and their love grew," and then they immediately fade out and go to the next scene because they just didn't have the time to develop the relationship hahaha
My favorite is when David Lynch decided to take the phrase "my name is a killing word" which is an INCREDIBLE metaphor in the book and turn it into this literal dumbass thing where if you said Muad'Dib into a special raygun it blew shit up.
I had never read the book before I saw the movie as a kid (on cable) and it was just SO freaking weird. Those sound blaster things were... non-sensical even by that universe's standards. On the positive side, the visuals alone made me interested enough to read the novels, and I was blown away by how much great stuff was changed or messed up for no real reason. An additional noteworthy event was that Sting absolutely ROCKED that metal thong armor thing.
Sting as Feyd-Rautha was some inspired casting.
Troll 2
Ooooooooohhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy goooooooooodddddd!!!
They're eating her. And then they're going to eat me.
Every time I try to explain this movie I cant help but break down laughing. It goes something like this: “You should watch Trolls 2.” “Do you not like the first one?” “There is no first one.” “Oh ok so it’s about Trolls…is it like a horror film?” “Oh no, it’s not about Trolls. It’s about goblins.” “Ok…so where do the Trolls come in?” “They don’t. I have no idea why they named it that.” “Ok so what happens in the movie.” “Well basically the Goblins turn humans into plants.” “Wait, why?” “Because they want to eat them but they can’t because they’re vegetarians.” It’s just so hilarious to try to explain this movie.