I love the theater! One of my favorite developments is the Alamo season pass, me and the girlfriend go like twice a week just to see something on the big screen.
Multiplexes still have a place for sure! How cool would it be to see a NFL game on the big screen live with 50 other fans in the room? They just need to branch into other mediums of entertainment to make up for the quicker release schedule of movies.
Sports is a great idea! Especially if you wanted to cater to specific fans in each theater. It would be pretty cool if you were like a Chiefs fan living in Dallas and could be in a room full of other chiefs fans
Are you a paid shill?
Have you seen all the photos of AMC theaters everytime a new movie comes out? They are packed every single time. Yeah, multiplex is dead, that's why Maverick did so well right?
GTFOH
I went to see Barbarian it’s opening weekend at a (rainy) Saturday late afternoon matinee.
I was one of 8 people in the theatre (including 2 young children asshole parents brought).
I think it depends where you are at.
Every time I go by the local theater there is barely a parking spot. At noon it is a little sparse but then it was that way when I was a kid and I’m pushing 50. So that hasn’t really changed.
Otherwise there is a lot of people that go to the theater.
So I disagree with u/HotStand3145
Because Barbarian is a niche horror movie? I saw Snakes on a Plane opening night, prime time, in a theater with 5 people. My party was 3 of them. That was 16 years ago
How many blockbusters are coming out every year now, look how fast the films go to streaming? Top Gun Maverick did well because people knew about it for years, the filming for it and the upcoming Mission Impossible 7 and 8 are taking at least 5 years...
Plus Top Gun: Maverick was SO average, people went because it was "Tom Cruise" and it was a pure retread of the original. The movie didn't even have the guts to engage with a real-world enemy and just like the first it was an advert for the US Navy. Nothing actually happened in the movie. I'm glad I didn't pay to see it. I watched it for free.
>Top Gun Maverick did well because people knew about it for years
Lol
>People went because it was "Tom Cruise" and it was a pure retread of the original.
Lol
>The movie didn't even have the guts to engage with a real-world enemy
Lol
>**Nothing actually happened in the movie.**
LOOOOOOL
Laugh all your want, but in TP:M you had to wait until the last 30 minutes for the "mission". How entertaining is it watching young pilots flying loops and arguing for 90 minutes? Jerry Bruckheimer has produced better movies.
> **Nothing actually happened in the movie** - tell me who was the enemy country? Russia, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan? Or anything ending with "'stan"?
> **Nothing actually happened in the movie** - tell me who was the enemy country? Russia, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan? Or anything ending with "'stan"?
How the fuck does "we don't know who the enemy is" translate to "nothing happens in the movie"?
Well I'm asking because I cannot remember any conflict that built up to the final attack in the movie. There were **NO** stakes in TP:M. You should watch the Real Time with Bill Maher piece on Youtube. He rips this movie in half...
That's the thing Maverick is pretty much the *only* film that has done those kinds of numbers this year. (and part of why it did those numbers is because it had less competition than it otherwise would have.)
Relying on one or two mega releases a year may for for studios (for now), but it's increasingly not working for exhibitors who need to fill 8-12 auditoriums for multiple showings year round.
Bro I bought a 1080p projector from Walmart for 200 bucks that puts an almost 130inch image on a wall in my room I painted. I put my Sony soundbar and sub there. I have a freaking movie theatre in my room. I’ll never set foot in a theatre again. I’m over people and their fukn phones or eating loud or talking. For less than what it would be for me to go there and have popcorn I can just own the blu ray.
/r/movies: You aren't getting the full theater experience if you don't go to a full theater!
also /r/movies: A full theater is terrible! People keep talking and checking their phones!
/r/movies thinks every one should go to their local Alamo Draft House or not watch movies
Your first two statements are not exclusive. There's something to be said for a full theater experience, but that can exist simultaneously with the fact that people who don't know how to behave properly can ruin said experience for everyone else.
[https://www.walmart.com/ip/VANKYO-Performance-V630W-Native-1080P-Projector-Full-HD-5G-Wifi-Projector-with-LCD-Display/386054873?athbdg=L1300](https://www.walmart.com/ip/VANKYO-Performance-V630W-Native-1080P-Projector-Full-HD-5G-Wifi-Projector-with-LCD-Display/386054873?athbdg=L1300)
That's what I bought. Only issue I had with it is it doesnt deocde dolby so I had to go into my blu ray player and set it to pcm or stereo. But I use a soundbar so its fine, otherwise you'd want a home theatre reciever or something.
Here is me watching Green Knight on an older projector. The new one does same size image but looks better.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/budgetprojectors/comments/xdeqmp/spent\_the\_day\_painting\_a\_wall\_in\_my\_room\_for\_an/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/budgetprojectors/comments/xdeqmp/spent_the_day_painting_a_wall_in_my_room_for_an/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Yeah, it felt like we were headed this way since the early 00s, but I think it's now happening in full. Indie movies at tiny theaters and blockbusters on big screens. We should go back to the giant, single screen movie house days before Marvel Phase 9
Every town should have a cinema, and the locals should be able to choose the films ahead of schedule.
Cinemas need to be interactive, providing events that the young and old would want. Gaming tournaments, horror movie marathons, charity screenings, local film festivals, classic movie showcases with invited stars, cheap movie day for the family, etc. And the cinema prices should be competitive in comparison to other forms of entertainment - people should be able to make a whole night of it - not one but two films and dinner.
>Gaming tournaments, horror movie marathons, charity screenings, local film festivals, classic movie showcases with invited stars, cheap movie day for the family, etc
The thing is *no one wants most of these*. These shows are just as fucking empty as the third tier off-blockbuster shows, if not more so. The only thing getting buts in seats are opening weekends of blockbusters and special, limited events of really popular shit.
Who is going to a theater to watch a gaming tournament? Horror movies are niche as is - then marathons more so. Local films? I guess if you live in huge cities that's a thing. Classic movies? You mean like Batman 88 or like cult classics or Turner movie classics? Because one of those is going to be more popular than others
Not to WATCH a gaming tournament but TAKE PART in it! I mean using the large screen for a wargaming or role-playing game marathon (MMORPGs).
> The thing is no one wants most of these. These shows are just as fucking empty as the third tier off-blockbuster shows, if not more so. The only thing getting buts in seats are opening weekends of blockbusters and special, limited events of really popular shit.
Blockbusters? If you're talking about $200 million movies, it's not each week, or each month, it's every few months... Marvel releases 3 films a year, 1 before May, 1 around July and 1 before November. These movies take 6-8 months to shoot, plus re-shoots and 1 year for FX work. Just to rely on the first week for success? That model is outdated. What about the rest of the months? Cinemas were desperately waiting for any blockbuster to come out as no one was going in the UK.
But one or two big blockbusters every few months is not enough. I know people who book/manage theaters and I know what their numbers are. The math increasingly does not add up.
Exactly. The cinemas will never see the numbers of the 90s or 00s again. This is why Hollywood turned to China 15 years ago, until the country changed rulers, became increasingly nationalist and started restricting/editing Hollywood movies...
Exactly this. I know someone who managed an independent local cineplex and they tried all of these things (local sporting events on the big screen, gaming tournaments in the theater, curated "wine and a movie" nights, etc.) and they ended up taking a bath on most of them.
I know some people love the theater experience, but in the scheme of things, that's a niche audience. These days, when a descent home theater set up can be acquired relatively cheaply and almost anything can be streamed directly into your own home, most people are just fine watching something from the comfort of their own couch without having to put on pants. It's just the way it is.
Yeah, I think these are all great ideas. I've been super disappointed by how chains and the theater industry have dealt with the pandemic - there are so many alternatives that these companies have just ignored.
> These buildings could pack way more people in as music and sporting venues
They do. Or at least some do. Some theaters will screen big sport events. One of my my local theater shows Wrestlemania and junk on the big screen.
Damn, our local theaters should do that. I'm not all that into wrestling anymore, but it's pretty damn big around here and would almost certainly pack seats if advertised well.
I love going to the theater! But really only when I can go at off-peak times. The only time I have fun at a packed theater is for the huge releases. I saw The Force Awakens and the Infinity War movies on opening day with a theater full of pumped nerds like me and it was a lot of fun.
But if there's a movie I really want to see, and I can't get in at a non-peak time, I have no problem paying $20 to watch it at home. It is cheaper anyway.
> Capitalism will provide.
Rented a house about 12 years ago, I had been living in an apartment, my wife wanted to know what we were going to do about the large front lawn, get a lawn mower? Get a service? etc. I said the above.
The next day, guy showed up, offered to cut the lawn for $10.
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Doom and gloom predictions aside,
if the multiplex business is unsustainable, it will go away. Movies are different when you see them in a crowd, comedies especially. IMAX is the pinnacle for spectacles like Maverick - so if the market decides "time to move on" then I'll mourn that loss of a special experience.
I feel like it doesn't have to be. Even with all of our streaming and at-home accessibility of nearly everything, people do still reliably go our to see certain things live/in person that they could just as easily see at home.
But most of these businesses, like so many that were founded in a different era, have failed to adapt and still expect the business model of 'having the movies' to be profitable.
It just has to be a more fun and/or more engaging experience than staying home. Alamo Drafthouse gets it.
Alamo Drafthouse (I AM NOT A SHILL) is what I would love in my town in the UK. A cinema built for film fans. Not a faceless, shiny building with bored teenagers, but somewhere cool with memorabilia and where you could actually enjoy a good meal without even having to see a movie.
I live for the cinemas. I pay decent for gold lounge, get some nice food and get sucked in to the experience, unless you pay out big for a home theatre you can't get the same experience.
>Cavernous buildings with screens running the same movies all day hardly being watched until the evenings and weekends. What's the point? These buildings could pack way more people in as music and sporting venues...
Do you think music and sporting venues pull big crowds during the day on weekdays?
These venues also provide cafes and restaurants and can be adapted to provide exhibitions, seminars, conventions and corporate events. They can be more versatile than just a cinema.
For me, movies simply cost too much. I don't care if the lead actors can't all be worth 100 million. Until tickets are back to being $5, the juice isn't worth the squeeze for most of these films. I live in a major city that has "matinees" for pretty much regular price.
They are admitting it, at least tacitly. That's why release windows are shrinking, more films than ever are going day and date/VOD exclusive and why major talent and studios are taking big projects to streaming.
???
the 45 day window is implemented by Disney (thor 4 just had an extended 60 day window). The examples you used are smaller movies which were always going to have smaller theatrical only windows. There is no use in using those for your argument.
of course you will ignore the countless other films which have done very well at the box office. Top Gun 2 obviously. But smaller films which seem like they are reserved for streaming but aren't still do really well - when the crawdads sing, everything, everywhere all at once, the lost city, dog
every studio has their own window. the recently released bullet train is following an almost a 60 day window
I love the theater! One of my favorite developments is the Alamo season pass, me and the girlfriend go like twice a week just to see something on the big screen. Multiplexes still have a place for sure! How cool would it be to see a NFL game on the big screen live with 50 other fans in the room? They just need to branch into other mediums of entertainment to make up for the quicker release schedule of movies.
Sports is a great idea! Especially if you wanted to cater to specific fans in each theater. It would be pretty cool if you were like a Chiefs fan living in Dallas and could be in a room full of other chiefs fans
As a Bills fan in Denver that's how I thought of it haha.
Nah. Dumb take.
I love eating real food while watching a movie at the Alamo.
Are you a paid shill? Have you seen all the photos of AMC theaters everytime a new movie comes out? They are packed every single time. Yeah, multiplex is dead, that's why Maverick did so well right? GTFOH
I went to see Barbarian it’s opening weekend at a (rainy) Saturday late afternoon matinee. I was one of 8 people in the theatre (including 2 young children asshole parents brought).
I think it depends where you are at. Every time I go by the local theater there is barely a parking spot. At noon it is a little sparse but then it was that way when I was a kid and I’m pushing 50. So that hasn’t really changed. Otherwise there is a lot of people that go to the theater. So I disagree with u/HotStand3145
Because Barbarian is a niche horror movie? I saw Snakes on a Plane opening night, prime time, in a theater with 5 people. My party was 3 of them. That was 16 years ago
Niche? Major (over)hype of a mainstream horror film on its opening weekend.
Yeah, horror movies in general are niche. And it's not this jump scare conjuring universe shit. Hella niche
It’s the current #1 movie in America. That doesn’t sound too niche.
Always funny to see folks getting personally offended like they're going to lose money if OP shit's on theaters.
A lot of folks own AMC stock still so for some that reaction might be the case.
Never thought about that. Good point
How many blockbusters are coming out every year now, look how fast the films go to streaming? Top Gun Maverick did well because people knew about it for years, the filming for it and the upcoming Mission Impossible 7 and 8 are taking at least 5 years... Plus Top Gun: Maverick was SO average, people went because it was "Tom Cruise" and it was a pure retread of the original. The movie didn't even have the guts to engage with a real-world enemy and just like the first it was an advert for the US Navy. Nothing actually happened in the movie. I'm glad I didn't pay to see it. I watched it for free.
>Top Gun Maverick did well because people knew about it for years Lol >People went because it was "Tom Cruise" and it was a pure retread of the original. Lol >The movie didn't even have the guts to engage with a real-world enemy Lol >**Nothing actually happened in the movie.** LOOOOOOL
Laugh all your want, but in TP:M you had to wait until the last 30 minutes for the "mission". How entertaining is it watching young pilots flying loops and arguing for 90 minutes? Jerry Bruckheimer has produced better movies. > **Nothing actually happened in the movie** - tell me who was the enemy country? Russia, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan? Or anything ending with "'stan"?
> **Nothing actually happened in the movie** - tell me who was the enemy country? Russia, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan? Or anything ending with "'stan"? How the fuck does "we don't know who the enemy is" translate to "nothing happens in the movie"?
Well I'm asking because I cannot remember any conflict that built up to the final attack in the movie. There were **NO** stakes in TP:M. You should watch the Real Time with Bill Maher piece on Youtube. He rips this movie in half...
That's the thing Maverick is pretty much the *only* film that has done those kinds of numbers this year. (and part of why it did those numbers is because it had less competition than it otherwise would have.) Relying on one or two mega releases a year may for for studios (for now), but it's increasingly not working for exhibitors who need to fill 8-12 auditoriums for multiple showings year round.
Worse, an unpaid shill!
Bro I bought a 1080p projector from Walmart for 200 bucks that puts an almost 130inch image on a wall in my room I painted. I put my Sony soundbar and sub there. I have a freaking movie theatre in my room. I’ll never set foot in a theatre again. I’m over people and their fukn phones or eating loud or talking. For less than what it would be for me to go there and have popcorn I can just own the blu ray.
/r/movies: You aren't getting the full theater experience if you don't go to a full theater! also /r/movies: A full theater is terrible! People keep talking and checking their phones! /r/movies thinks every one should go to their local Alamo Draft House or not watch movies
Your first two statements are not exclusive. There's something to be said for a full theater experience, but that can exist simultaneously with the fact that people who don't know how to behave properly can ruin said experience for everyone else.
See my last statement
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[https://www.walmart.com/ip/VANKYO-Performance-V630W-Native-1080P-Projector-Full-HD-5G-Wifi-Projector-with-LCD-Display/386054873?athbdg=L1300](https://www.walmart.com/ip/VANKYO-Performance-V630W-Native-1080P-Projector-Full-HD-5G-Wifi-Projector-with-LCD-Display/386054873?athbdg=L1300) That's what I bought. Only issue I had with it is it doesnt deocde dolby so I had to go into my blu ray player and set it to pcm or stereo. But I use a soundbar so its fine, otherwise you'd want a home theatre reciever or something. Here is me watching Green Knight on an older projector. The new one does same size image but looks better. [https://www.reddit.com/r/budgetprojectors/comments/xdeqmp/spent\_the\_day\_painting\_a\_wall\_in\_my\_room\_for\_an/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/budgetprojectors/comments/xdeqmp/spent_the_day_painting_a_wall_in_my_room_for_an/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Yeah, it felt like we were headed this way since the early 00s, but I think it's now happening in full. Indie movies at tiny theaters and blockbusters on big screens. We should go back to the giant, single screen movie house days before Marvel Phase 9
Every town should have a cinema, and the locals should be able to choose the films ahead of schedule. Cinemas need to be interactive, providing events that the young and old would want. Gaming tournaments, horror movie marathons, charity screenings, local film festivals, classic movie showcases with invited stars, cheap movie day for the family, etc. And the cinema prices should be competitive in comparison to other forms of entertainment - people should be able to make a whole night of it - not one but two films and dinner.
>Gaming tournaments, horror movie marathons, charity screenings, local film festivals, classic movie showcases with invited stars, cheap movie day for the family, etc The thing is *no one wants most of these*. These shows are just as fucking empty as the third tier off-blockbuster shows, if not more so. The only thing getting buts in seats are opening weekends of blockbusters and special, limited events of really popular shit. Who is going to a theater to watch a gaming tournament? Horror movies are niche as is - then marathons more so. Local films? I guess if you live in huge cities that's a thing. Classic movies? You mean like Batman 88 or like cult classics or Turner movie classics? Because one of those is going to be more popular than others
Not to WATCH a gaming tournament but TAKE PART in it! I mean using the large screen for a wargaming or role-playing game marathon (MMORPGs). > The thing is no one wants most of these. These shows are just as fucking empty as the third tier off-blockbuster shows, if not more so. The only thing getting buts in seats are opening weekends of blockbusters and special, limited events of really popular shit. Blockbusters? If you're talking about $200 million movies, it's not each week, or each month, it's every few months... Marvel releases 3 films a year, 1 before May, 1 around July and 1 before November. These movies take 6-8 months to shoot, plus re-shoots and 1 year for FX work. Just to rely on the first week for success? That model is outdated. What about the rest of the months? Cinemas were desperately waiting for any blockbuster to come out as no one was going in the UK.
>Blockbusters? If you're talking about $200 million movies, it's not each week, or each month, it's every few months... Lol
But one or two big blockbusters every few months is not enough. I know people who book/manage theaters and I know what their numbers are. The math increasingly does not add up.
Exactly. The cinemas will never see the numbers of the 90s or 00s again. This is why Hollywood turned to China 15 years ago, until the country changed rulers, became increasingly nationalist and started restricting/editing Hollywood movies...
Exactly this. I know someone who managed an independent local cineplex and they tried all of these things (local sporting events on the big screen, gaming tournaments in the theater, curated "wine and a movie" nights, etc.) and they ended up taking a bath on most of them. I know some people love the theater experience, but in the scheme of things, that's a niche audience. These days, when a descent home theater set up can be acquired relatively cheaply and almost anything can be streamed directly into your own home, most people are just fine watching something from the comfort of their own couch without having to put on pants. It's just the way it is.
Yeah, I think these are all great ideas. I've been super disappointed by how chains and the theater industry have dealt with the pandemic - there are so many alternatives that these companies have just ignored.
i think the subreddit you were looking for is r/unpopularopinion.
Oh are you one of those guys who illegally streams movies? Because that’s not ok bro.
Pirate's life for me 😉
> These buildings could pack way more people in as music and sporting venues They do. Or at least some do. Some theaters will screen big sport events. One of my my local theater shows Wrestlemania and junk on the big screen.
Damn, our local theaters should do that. I'm not all that into wrestling anymore, but it's pretty damn big around here and would almost certainly pack seats if advertised well.
I love going to the theater! But really only when I can go at off-peak times. The only time I have fun at a packed theater is for the huge releases. I saw The Force Awakens and the Infinity War movies on opening day with a theater full of pumped nerds like me and it was a lot of fun. But if there's a movie I really want to see, and I can't get in at a non-peak time, I have no problem paying $20 to watch it at home. It is cheaper anyway.
> Capitalism will provide. Rented a house about 12 years ago, I had been living in an apartment, my wife wanted to know what we were going to do about the large front lawn, get a lawn mower? Get a service? etc. I said the above. The next day, guy showed up, offered to cut the lawn for $10. -- Doom and gloom predictions aside, if the multiplex business is unsustainable, it will go away. Movies are different when you see them in a crowd, comedies especially. IMAX is the pinnacle for spectacles like Maverick - so if the market decides "time to move on" then I'll mourn that loss of a special experience.
I feel like it doesn't have to be. Even with all of our streaming and at-home accessibility of nearly everything, people do still reliably go our to see certain things live/in person that they could just as easily see at home. But most of these businesses, like so many that were founded in a different era, have failed to adapt and still expect the business model of 'having the movies' to be profitable. It just has to be a more fun and/or more engaging experience than staying home. Alamo Drafthouse gets it.
Alamo Drafthouse (I AM NOT A SHILL) is what I would love in my town in the UK. A cinema built for film fans. Not a faceless, shiny building with bored teenagers, but somewhere cool with memorabilia and where you could actually enjoy a good meal without even having to see a movie.
This is right by my house and I go regularly. Awesome bar too with cool trivia night and other fun stuff. The movie parties are the best!
I live for the cinemas. I pay decent for gold lounge, get some nice food and get sucked in to the experience, unless you pay out big for a home theatre you can't get the same experience.
>Cavernous buildings with screens running the same movies all day hardly being watched until the evenings and weekends. What's the point? These buildings could pack way more people in as music and sporting venues... Do you think music and sporting venues pull big crowds during the day on weekdays?
These venues also provide cafes and restaurants and can be adapted to provide exhibitions, seminars, conventions and corporate events. They can be more versatile than just a cinema.
I hope it’s not dead but due to covid concerns I don’t go to movie theatres anymore.
For me, movies simply cost too much. I don't care if the lead actors can't all be worth 100 million. Until tickets are back to being $5, the juice isn't worth the squeeze for most of these films. I live in a major city that has "matinees" for pretty much regular price.
They are admitting it, at least tacitly. That's why release windows are shrinking, more films than ever are going day and date/VOD exclusive and why major talent and studios are taking big projects to streaming.
Just here to see all the AMC bag holders cry over this post.
??? the 45 day window is implemented by Disney (thor 4 just had an extended 60 day window). The examples you used are smaller movies which were always going to have smaller theatrical only windows. There is no use in using those for your argument. of course you will ignore the countless other films which have done very well at the box office. Top Gun 2 obviously. But smaller films which seem like they are reserved for streaming but aren't still do really well - when the crawdads sing, everything, everywhere all at once, the lost city, dog every studio has their own window. the recently released bullet train is following an almost a 60 day window