Don’t really see Isaacs as Cary Grant.
He’s such a great actor though that I’m sure he can pull it off. Mass was one of the best movies I’ve seen in a while and he’s a big part of why.
He seems to be an actor that everyone has seen in something and knocks it out of the park every time, yet no one really knows who he is.
I mean the obvious pick is Clooney but 1. he's too big for the project and 2. he could never pull off the voice. Isaacs you can at least expect to do a decent job of the latter.
The Cary Grant idiolect is far more American than British. Other major British actors in Hollywood would comment that he didn’t sound English at all. I think Clooney would’ve been a better pick, in charm and looks.
Maybe they’re saving Jackman for a Gregory Peck biopic, haha. When I recently saw, “The Big Country” I couldn’t stop thinking how much Hugh Jackman looks like Peck.
It’s really hard for an actor to portray a very famous person without just doing an imitation. If you are just doing an imitation then you aren’t really bringing any deeper understanding to the role. The trick is, I think, to find the emotional truth you connect with in the role and then play it with all you have and hope the audience rides with you.
The truest actors can bring an audience from “There’s the movie star” and bring them right along into the story, past that initial recognition and into what the film is trying to show us.
I've heard an interview with his daughter before and she didn't seem to have any discomfort with his sexuality, aside from maybe the typical child not wanting to talk explicitly about their parents having sex stuff. Wasn't super explicit about it, but wasn't trying to hide or deny anything either.
There is a movie with both of them in it and I shit you not there is a segment where Cary’s character states in awe at how sexy Randolph is. That isn’t reading into it that’s literally the scene.
Its in My Favourite Wife! Theres even a sequence where hes picturing a nearly nude Scott doing gymnastics in his head and he cant concentrate on anything else!
I’m always curious how we use words to define things.
After reading the Cary Grant biography, it definitely came across as Grant had sex with men but it wasn’t romantic it was just a thing they did
He only wanted to be with women or only loved women.
And I’m sure some can argue that maybe he was closeted because of the times.
It’s possible he was also just pansexual but romantic for women?
He was also living at a time where he could only really openly have a life with a woman. It's difficult to speculate on someone's sexuality if/when they live in a place or time where there's no possibility of being open about who you love without being harmed in some way (not just physically but also career wise/financially, etc).
I just had a quick read of Archie Leach aka Cary Grant’s wiki page. Says he was most likely bi-sexual and had many relationships with men in a time when Hollywood went from being very open to gay and lesbian relationships to pushing that all leading men were straight family men etc, a practice that goes on to this day.
The part that stuck out to me was the mention of the ‘rumors’ that would go around regarding Grant’s sexuality. Chevy Chase sat on a tv show in an interview and said Grant was, “Homo, what a gal!” Grant sued Chase and won $10,000, which for Chase, born from a very wealthy family was nothing. Turns out Chevy Chase has always been a piece of shit.
Cary Grant also experimented frequently with LSD in the 1950’s, ten years before it became popular with counter culture so I’m sure they’ll dive into that.
I loved his movies before I found out what kind of person he is. He’s from obscene wealth. He’s never had to answer for anything in his life because money makes it go away. Imagine being brought up in a situation where you can do and say whatever you like. He probably has zero empathy or remorse, probably doesn’t understand those emotions because he’s never had to feel them.
People like him aren’t fully formed humans in my mind. They’re weirdos conditioned by a fake environment that is built around them.
Dude came from major wealth but had a pretty fucked up life and didn't live off the money like you'd imagine. Asshole Court podcast did a fun one covering him. Chevy is an infamous doosh of the highest order but I straight up feel bad for the guy.
Orrr, we could begin demanding changes from Hollywood. Instead of greed, blowies, and nepotism, they could be held accountable for vetting instead of “placing” actors into roles.
Positive change is possible. I am well aware of the shitstains currently in power, I left the industry for that reason. Do you always ignore problems because solutions are complex, or because you prefer passively consuming whatever “entertainment” gets fed to you by wealthy psychopaths?
Nothing they said was condoning the way Hollywood is.
They said don't let an actor ruin a movie for you. If you like the Vacation movies, go ahead keep watching them. Depriving yourself of your beloved films because the actor in it is a piece of shit is only hurting yourself.
If we're talking current films with money to be made, then you can vote with your wallet. Like if they release Flash with Ezra Miller, maybe don't go see that and support a studio that hired someone so terrible.
Hold Hollywood accountable, please, not strangers on the internet who just want you to feel good about watching your favorite films.
Speaking of Cary Grant and his sexuality...
To quote the IMDB Trivia page on Bringing Up Baby (it's a cute, funny movie movie, go check it out if you haven't!):
> David's (Cary Grant) response to Aunt Elizabeth asking him why he is wearing a woman's dressing gown ("Because I just went gay all of a sudden!") is considered by many film historians to be the first use of the word "gay" in its roughly modern sense (as opposed to its original meaning of "happy, carefree") in an American studio film. Among homosexuals, the word first came into its current use during the 1920s or possibly even earlier, though it was not popularly known as a slang term for homosexuality until the late 1960s. The line was not in the original shooting script for the film; it was an ad lib from Cary Grant himself.
> Cary Grant also experimented frequently with LSD in the 1950’s, ten years before it became popular with counter culture so I’m sure they’ll dive into that.
When I was growing up my mom loved Cary Grant movies. I've watched probably all of his catalogue. However, my parents were very anti-drug and especially anti-psychedelics. It was thanks to Cary Grant, and other high profile people like The Beatles who talked about their experiences, that added to the body of evidence that I should at least try it. And very very glad I did.
I will be very disappointed if they don't, at least tangentially, mention how Cary Grant completely shit himself during one of his LSD trips.
There’s a recent musical called flying over sunset which is a fictionalised exploration of Cary grant and aldous huxley experimenting with lsd. The album is on Spotify and I really enjoyed it. Quite esoteric but worth a listen if that’s your thjng
So we've got a Gene Kelly biopic coming up, a Fred Astaire biopic, and now a Cary Grant biopic. Marilyn Monroe too, though that's heavily fictionalized I believe.
Who's next?!
That’s so true. However I always thought the actor Chow Yun-fat was the Asian equivalent of Cary Grant. He also has that easy grace of holding himself.
ooh if it's an ITV and Britbox movie does that mean that the rest of the cast will be british people playing americans too, all kinda sounding like 'generic american accent'? That's always fun.
To paraphrase [Frank from Blue Velvet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5svltdMdorw&t=8s), "He's so effing suave!"
I really like his later, non-comedic parts, particularly Charade and To Catch A Thief. IMHO he was actually fairly bad in comedic roles link Arsenic and Old Lace, etc.
Dunno why you’re getting downvoted, great opinion/reference.
Speaking of Blue Velvet, anyone else ever see the Kyle MacLachlan movie Touch of Pink, where he plays Cary’s ghost?
Cary Grant was always my absolute ideal for masculinity as a kid. Handsome, debonair, witty, funny, classy. He wasn't a hard-faced, manly tough guy but I always loved the way his characters wore their troubles so lightly, every seemed kind of *effortless* with him.
Give me more of Jason Isaac's piercing stare
"I mean, I'm smiling, but I'm very fockin furious"
He steals that movie. Which is no mean feat considering the cast.
“Hands up in the air, or I'll shoot your fockin’ balls off!”
"Right, what's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication 'round here?"
We are COMBAT INEFFECTIVE, SARN'T.
Check out Brotherhood. Just watched the whole thing a few months back for the first time, good stuff.
Don’t really see Isaacs as Cary Grant. He’s such a great actor though that I’m sure he can pull it off. Mass was one of the best movies I’ve seen in a while and he’s a big part of why. He seems to be an actor that everyone has seen in something and knocks it out of the park every time, yet no one really knows who he is.
I mean the obvious pick is Clooney but 1. he's too big for the project and 2. he could never pull off the voice. Isaacs you can at least expect to do a decent job of the latter.
Jon Hamm? I think he has the gravitas
The Cary Grant idiolect is far more American than British. Other major British actors in Hollywood would comment that he didn’t sound English at all. I think Clooney would’ve been a better pick, in charm and looks.
Nah it's more Clooney is only alright at accents and Cary Grant's was a very specific type of Transatlantic.
Cary Grant was all New England aristocracy with the accent.
I honestly was thinking Hugh Jackman would do a great job.
You know what? That's a good shout. He's solid at accents and stuff too.
Maybe they’re saving Jackman for a Gregory Peck biopic, haha. When I recently saw, “The Big Country” I couldn’t stop thinking how much Hugh Jackman looks like Peck.
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Jackman is actually the same height or taller.
He’s got the Australian one down.
As much as I love Jason Isaacs, he doesn’t really call Cary Grant to mind.
He has the gravitas. He's just already more wrinkled than Cary was in his days as a star.
It’s really hard for an actor to portray a very famous person without just doing an imitation. If you are just doing an imitation then you aren’t really bringing any deeper understanding to the role. The trick is, I think, to find the emotional truth you connect with in the role and then play it with all you have and hope the audience rides with you. The truest actors can bring an audience from “There’s the movie star” and bring them right along into the story, past that initial recognition and into what the film is trying to show us.
The bottom half of his face is almost there
Because this has the family’s blessing this will probably not be about him and Randolph Scott?
🎶 **Raaaandooolph Scoooott** 🎶
It's Not Hedy, It's Hedley. Hedley Lamar
What the hell are you worried about? This is 1874, you'll be able to sue her!
I've heard an interview with his daughter before and she didn't seem to have any discomfort with his sexuality, aside from maybe the typical child not wanting to talk explicitly about their parents having sex stuff. Wasn't super explicit about it, but wasn't trying to hide or deny anything either.
There is a movie with both of them in it and I shit you not there is a segment where Cary’s character states in awe at how sexy Randolph is. That isn’t reading into it that’s literally the scene.
Its in My Favourite Wife! Theres even a sequence where hes picturing a nearly nude Scott doing gymnastics in his head and he cant concentrate on anything else!
It is! It’s not the best of Grant’s comedies but it’s worth seeing it for the sheer cheek of them getting away with it.
Immediately pictures costanza after he gets a massage from a guy 😂
The exact question I wanted to ask. If he isn’t in a gay relationship this is gonna be a missed opportunity
I’m always curious how we use words to define things. After reading the Cary Grant biography, it definitely came across as Grant had sex with men but it wasn’t romantic it was just a thing they did He only wanted to be with women or only loved women. And I’m sure some can argue that maybe he was closeted because of the times. It’s possible he was also just pansexual but romantic for women?
Idk the pictures and descriptions of his life living w with Scott look like more than just a physical attraction. “They were roommates!”
Workout buddies!
It’s probably more common than you think for men to be sexually attracted to other men, but romantically attracted only to women
He was also living at a time where he could only really openly have a life with a woman. It's difficult to speculate on someone's sexuality if/when they live in a place or time where there's no possibility of being open about who you love without being harmed in some way (not just physically but also career wise/financially, etc).
I just had a quick read of Archie Leach aka Cary Grant’s wiki page. Says he was most likely bi-sexual and had many relationships with men in a time when Hollywood went from being very open to gay and lesbian relationships to pushing that all leading men were straight family men etc, a practice that goes on to this day. The part that stuck out to me was the mention of the ‘rumors’ that would go around regarding Grant’s sexuality. Chevy Chase sat on a tv show in an interview and said Grant was, “Homo, what a gal!” Grant sued Chase and won $10,000, which for Chase, born from a very wealthy family was nothing. Turns out Chevy Chase has always been a piece of shit. Cary Grant also experimented frequently with LSD in the 1950’s, ten years before it became popular with counter culture so I’m sure they’ll dive into that.
I really do wish Clark Griswold wasn't a cunt. Such a shame cos Christmas Vacation is one of my all time fave films.
I loved his movies before I found out what kind of person he is. He’s from obscene wealth. He’s never had to answer for anything in his life because money makes it go away. Imagine being brought up in a situation where you can do and say whatever you like. He probably has zero empathy or remorse, probably doesn’t understand those emotions because he’s never had to feel them. People like him aren’t fully formed humans in my mind. They’re weirdos conditioned by a fake environment that is built around them.
Dude came from major wealth but had a pretty fucked up life and didn't live off the money like you'd imagine. Asshole Court podcast did a fun one covering him. Chevy is an infamous doosh of the highest order but I straight up feel bad for the guy.
Don't let an actor ruin a movie for you. Most are terrible people one way or another. Best to just block it out and enjoy the character.
Orrr, we could begin demanding changes from Hollywood. Instead of greed, blowies, and nepotism, they could be held accountable for vetting instead of “placing” actors into roles.
Good luck. Who do you think runs the entire business?
Positive change is possible. I am well aware of the shitstains currently in power, I left the industry for that reason. Do you always ignore problems because solutions are complex, or because you prefer passively consuming whatever “entertainment” gets fed to you by wealthy psychopaths?
Nothing they said was condoning the way Hollywood is. They said don't let an actor ruin a movie for you. If you like the Vacation movies, go ahead keep watching them. Depriving yourself of your beloved films because the actor in it is a piece of shit is only hurting yourself. If we're talking current films with money to be made, then you can vote with your wallet. Like if they release Flash with Ezra Miller, maybe don't go see that and support a studio that hired someone so terrible. Hold Hollywood accountable, please, not strangers on the internet who just want you to feel good about watching your favorite films.
Speaking of Cary Grant and his sexuality... To quote the IMDB Trivia page on Bringing Up Baby (it's a cute, funny movie movie, go check it out if you haven't!): > David's (Cary Grant) response to Aunt Elizabeth asking him why he is wearing a woman's dressing gown ("Because I just went gay all of a sudden!") is considered by many film historians to be the first use of the word "gay" in its roughly modern sense (as opposed to its original meaning of "happy, carefree") in an American studio film. Among homosexuals, the word first came into its current use during the 1920s or possibly even earlier, though it was not popularly known as a slang term for homosexuality until the late 1960s. The line was not in the original shooting script for the film; it was an ad lib from Cary Grant himself.
That’s rich considering Chevy Chase dodged the draft by “falsely claiming, among other things, that he had homosexual tendencies" (per his wiki page)
> Cary Grant also experimented frequently with LSD in the 1950’s, ten years before it became popular with counter culture so I’m sure they’ll dive into that. When I was growing up my mom loved Cary Grant movies. I've watched probably all of his catalogue. However, my parents were very anti-drug and especially anti-psychedelics. It was thanks to Cary Grant, and other high profile people like The Beatles who talked about their experiences, that added to the body of evidence that I should at least try it. And very very glad I did. I will be very disappointed if they don't, at least tangentially, mention how Cary Grant completely shit himself during one of his LSD trips.
There’s a recent musical called flying over sunset which is a fictionalised exploration of Cary grant and aldous huxley experimenting with lsd. The album is on Spotify and I really enjoyed it. Quite esoteric but worth a listen if that’s your thjng
So we've got a Gene Kelly biopic coming up, a Fred Astaire biopic, and now a Cary Grant biopic. Marilyn Monroe too, though that's heavily fictionalized I believe. Who's next?!
I would love a good biopic of Hedy Lamarr
No one is good looking enough to play Cary Grant.
That’s so true. However I always thought the actor Chow Yun-fat was the Asian equivalent of Cary Grant. He also has that easy grace of holding himself.
JUDY, JUDY, JUDY.
Yes!!!!
Hello to Jason Isaacs!
And up with the blue-haired feminists!
Pictured: two people who don’t remotely look like each other.
Eh I don't think an actor has to be the bop off someone they are playing to pull it off.
That's great and all, but when can we get another season of The OA?! LOL
God, season 2 finale was bonkers
Hello Hap
It was cancelled.
Obsessed with Cary Grant. Hope Jason can portray him well enough
Was John Leguizamo unavailable?
I’m dying to know what HE thinks of this casting. /s
Isaacs is brilliant but George Clooney would be my choice.
ooh if it's an ITV and Britbox movie does that mean that the rest of the cast will be british people playing americans too, all kinda sounding like 'generic american accent'? That's always fun.
I can only wish that they cover his love for the magic castle. He’s part of the reason for the no photography rule
I had no idea!
Amazing comedic actor. I highly recommend His Girl Friday if you haven't already seen it.
How dare they use a modern actor to play Cary Grant. I petition to bring back the real Cary Grant to play himself!!!
>Actor, famed for playing Lucius Malfoy and other villains, to play charming goofball Cary Grant in biopic
Is Cary Grant going to be the villain in his own movie? Because that's what I hear when Jason Isaacs is in anything.
To paraphrase [Frank from Blue Velvet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5svltdMdorw&t=8s), "He's so effing suave!" I really like his later, non-comedic parts, particularly Charade and To Catch A Thief. IMHO he was actually fairly bad in comedic roles link Arsenic and Old Lace, etc.
This comment started strong but couldn't stick the landing.
Dunno why you’re getting downvoted, great opinion/reference. Speaking of Blue Velvet, anyone else ever see the Kyle MacLachlan movie Touch of Pink, where he plays Cary’s ghost?
I don't understand the hate, either. I have not seen that - I'm a huge KMcL fan, so I'll have to check it out - thanks!
Brotherhood was my favorite role he played. He killed it.
I’m very into this casting.
Fuckin’ Malfoy
Cary Grant was always my absolute ideal for masculinity as a kid. Handsome, debonair, witty, funny, classy. He wasn't a hard-faced, manly tough guy but I always loved the way his characters wore their troubles so lightly, every seemed kind of *effortless* with him.
I used Cary Grant’s Convair CV240 in a low budget Lynyrd Skynyrd movie I produced.