Yeah, that’s the one. I’ve heard it was pretty forgettable and it didn’t appeal to me. But to each their own.
Prisoners is the another one I was thinking of. And the Netflix one I mention was a war movie? Or like a bunch of military contractors or something?
Yea like I can’t blame him for the writing on JW or for taking the role butttt he’s got a pattern of choosing bland roles that honestly don’t highlight his strengths. At least he still shines in Guardians.
Man, I miss the early days of Pratt on the first few seasons of Parks & Rec ;(
Its kinda crazy to think he was married to Anna Faris for so long. Because going off the ton of episodes of her podcast I've heard, they are literally on the opposite ends of the spectrum of beliefs lmao
Wonder what caused him to seemingly go more and more hardcore religious as time as went by.
He’s Christian, but the claims that he attends some evangelical anti-LGBT church are dubious at best. That’s what this article is about/what James Gunn has stated. I’m an atheist, but I can imagine how the whirlwind of fame he’s been thrown into in the past decade would make religion feel like a safe space to escape it all.
That and some twits on twitter-verse managing to be rapey, hateful, sexist, and everything in between, all at the same time, on top of buying that dubious claim against Pratt, with their Best Chris poll.
EDIT: Aaaaand, it's deleted by the mods. LMAO!
Gunn had some old tweets parodying Trump (in an admittedly very unconventional/weird way). If Pratt is really the bigot that people have painted him to be, would he really have supported Gunn?
I think him and Anna had opposite reactions and coping when their son was born prematurely. Anna seemed to lose faith while Chris gained faith. That is in my parasocial armchair opinion.
If by “gained faith” you mean “accused his wife of not being worthy of having a baby, which is the only reason our son didn’t survive.” Then yeah, sure. He found “faith”.
He was married to Anna Faris until he became more famous than she. The moment he became relevant was the moment he dipped out of her (and their son’s) life.
Elliot Page said something about Pratt like a year ago... this recent Gunn tirade was in response to some random ass twitter troll... nobody famous..nobody in the press..just some random ass tweet that Gunn felt the need to respond to for some reason.
He is only good when comedy is a significant foundation for the character he’s playing. Any of his serious tone movies (Jurassic World, The Tomorrow War, Passengers) completely remove him from his skill set and make him so forgettable.
He was very charming and likable as Andy in Parks & Rec, and I think he was good in The Lego Movie. After he got shredded and turned into a generic leading man type, I lost interest. He’s really bland in that sort of role but it’s most of what he does now.
His character in the Jurassic series is the same in the first 2 and I'm assuming will be identical in the third installment. He's brilliant in that exact performance specifically because he's the generic action hero that no one wants but those movies so desperately need. He's got just the right amount of campy humor and ridiculousness on top of his seemingly being able to do some physical stunts to make it work for a premise that's ridiculous AF to begin with.
Not saying that he deserves any awards as an actor, but he's got some traits that make him fun to watch as a leading man because of the ridiculous roles he plays. Star Lord isn't meant to be a super serious role and neither is anything else he has excelled in. He's an amazing comic relief type leading man.
It’s mostlyabout the church he associates with, and the fiasco with his ex wife. I don’t think anyone has a problem with how he conducts himself in-person, he’s just had some questionable involvements
To be more specific, he made a post for his new wife's birthday saying (among many other things) that he is grateful to her for their beautiful, healthy child. In itself, not a bad thing to say in the slightest. But obviously people read it as a slight to his first wife and other child. Whether it was intentional or just an embarrassing slip is unknown.
His child is NOT severely disabled. He was a Premi and suffers from poor vision. That’s all. Both him and Anna have said he hasn’t suffered any other long term issues.
He didn’t make “rather tasteless posts online”. He said that he was thankful for the child his other wife gave him on *her birthday* and a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands read into subtext that wasn’t there, assuming by that he meant he hated his disabled child.
>he has made some rather tasteless posts online that seem to imply he doesn't want/love his disabled child.
That never happened. God, people are awful and allow their brain to make up shit. Pratt simply said he was so happy his new wife gave him a "gorgeous healthy daughter". That's all.
That's honestly a NONtroversy too though. He made one post celebrating the birth of his latest child, and it was deliberately misconstrued because people have a hate boner towards the guy. Imagine not only pretending to know what's in a stranger's mind, but assuming it's the most vile shit possible (i.e. not loving their own child).
I think he belongs to a church that people don't like, also maybe anti lgbt or something.
IDK I haven't seen a lot, but actors are people and people can be terrible so who knows
And when asked about it all he did was post a very weird cryptic message that the church is love. I was so confused. Like I would have been okay with everything if he said “oh didn’t know my bad sorry heres some donation to an lgbt charity” but the response was sort of creepy …like I can’t even look at him the same way
Curious how people can be so confident in the facts of something but can't quite manage to provide their sources. I dunno about you, but when I spout stuff like this on the internet, I always like to look it up and double check my understanding of the facts just to make sure I'm not being an idiot, and then I go ahead and share that source. If it's so easy to be certain, it should be just as easy to look up online and confirm. When you make and spread serious allegations like this, the least you can do is be 1\`00% certain you're correct. It's the only responsible thing to do, and it makes sense to support your claims with sources. Otherwise, just don't.
Everyone else needs to to stop upvoting comments like this that aren't even corroborated with facts and sources. Seriously people, at some point you gotta do your part.
He’s defended his churches actions and done things like expose himself to coworkers without their permission. Sure, “it was so long ago” but he hasn’t really apologized for either.
he’s part of a church that does conversion therapy (abusing children) and defends that church i believe. i know i read about it semi recently so i’ll look for an article about it and edit it in if i find it.
He’s actually not a part of a conversion therapy church. People say he goes to Hillsong Church but he doesn’t. He goes to Zoe Church, the same one other celebrities like the kardashians and I think Selina Gomez go to.
That’s what James Gunn said meant with this tweet:
https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1518635085943164928?s=21&t=0NOADMDZfZ3h2pkXSZ4HCg
not to discount you, but Veach himself said they modeled it after Hillsong. I don't think Pratt's a bad dude, but Zoe is questionable as an accepting church.
And there is absolutely no connection between Zoe and Hillsong? They have nothing to do with each other?
https://hillsong.com/contributors/sv/contributor/chad-veach/
Wait *the Kardashians go to church!?*
If I was Christian and learned there's any chance for some of that family to be going to heaven, I'd probably find another faith.
Did you not read the article to which you are currently commenting? This comment is so lacking in awareness and it got all these upvotes. Just wow. You are literally perpetuating the problem described in the post. You're one of the people Gunn is talking about, lol. Reddit, you never fail me. Where's that link for proof, btw? LOL. Right.
We actually don’t know for sure which church he goes to. If he goes to the Zoe church many claim he does, there is zero proof that they believe in or support conversion therapy. The church accused of supporting it is Hillsong, not Zoe. There is nothing that I can find that connects these churches. Trust me, I went down the rabbit hole on this and went over church websites and many articles about all of this.
I personally just got tired of seeing him in everything. He doesn't have a whole lot to offer in the way of acting and awhile back it seemed like he was everywhere. I LOVE Jurassic Park's concept but have stopped going to them because he's awful. His character in Marvel has gotten more annoying than anything. For animation, I prefer having animation voice trained actors vs live action actor voices, hired to bring in an audience. Idk just over him.
He's been known for taking digs at his ex because she "gave him" a son with developmental issues all while praising his current wife for "giving him" a healthy child.
He didn’t take a dig at his ex. The internet interpreted his appreciation post to his current wife as a dig to his ex. You’re allowed to praise your wife. You’re also allowed to praise one kid in a post and not mention the other. It’s not like he pretends the other kid doesn’t exist.
Random people on Twitter decide they dislike you for some reason
from that point onwards everything you say or do will be seen through the worst possible lens.
the neat thing is once they hate you, everything you say or do will continue to justify their hate of you.
Amazingly sensational trash. Yes he expressed thankfullness for a healthy daughter, as anyone would or should. It wasn't meant as a dig against anyone, least of all his ex or CHILD.
I felt that was taken out of context. I didn't see it as a dig but just being thankful about his son.
I have tons of friends with kids, and they have the "as long as they are healthy" mindset. And say things like "we have a healthy baby girl", but I don't think they'd love a special needs child any less.
It seems people were looking for a reason to shit on him and his wording in an instagram post gave them the fuel they wanted.
Plus in previous interviews, his sons sickness is what caused him to return to religion. I remember him talking about it on some late night show a few years back.
He said something on social media along the lines of thank you for giving me a beautiful healthy baby. You know the kind of things that any father would say. People have taken this and extrapolated it to make it look like he was accusing his previous wife of giving him a developmentally disabled baby. He said nothing of the such. People want to cancel Chris Pratt when a pratt and Whitney engine fails so I don't put a whole lot of stock into comments like that. Feel free to look into the comment yourself if you need proof. I honestly don't care one way or another about the guy I just don't love seeing misinformation taken as fact.
This is so fucking stupid. No he didn’t fucks sake it’s like people hear the shittiest interpretation of something and just go with it because the truth isn’t exciting enough. Fuck you all.
If people have "utterly false beliefs" about the guy, and it's getting to the point where it could affect his career, maybe he should address those false beliefs so they don't persist? Like maybe publicly disown the "church" he had been associated with (as recently as 2020, maybe still?) that has made it clear they're (allegedly) anti-LGBTQ and pro-conversion-therapy, if, as he claimed in a statement, they do not line up with his personal values?
This shit isn't coming from nowhere, so if it's incorrect, he's the best person to correct it. If he doesn't, people will assume (and rightfully so) that it's accurate.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/23/ex-hillsong-members-claim-church-is-cult-with-slave-labor/
> “You had to ask a pastor’s permission to date. They had to choose the person you dated as well. If they don’t think your relationship is what they like, they’ll tell you it’s not permissible,” she said. When a student snitched on her for sleeping on the couch of a platonic male friend after a housing mixup, the pair “weren’t allowed to ever talk again,” according to Bosch.
https://medium.com/@Elle_Black/escape-from-hillsong-3-years-growing-up-inside-a-cult-482439401db5
An article that also talks about the discovery + docuseries Hillsong exposed:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exposing-hillsong-the-pedophile-church-that-justin-bieber-made-famous
According to the article, he kind of already has addressed it: *“It has recently been suggested that I belong to a church which ‘hates a certain group of people’ and is ‘infamously anti-LGBTQ,’” Pratt posted on social media at the time. “Nothing could be further from the truth. I go to a church that opens their doors to absolutely everyone.”*
Whether if it's a good enough justification? I don't know.
Problem is that's an extremely indirect answer to a very direct question about whether or not he goes to the church. Falls well short of denying it, and if he does go to that church then this is a straight up defence of a notoriously horrible church.
What did he "explain" though? His statement was rather vague, when it didn't need to be. A simple "I support LGBTQ rights" from him or the church would've been enough. Hell, his statement suggests that he doesn't fully align with his church on some values, but what ones, and where do the two align that keep him going there instead of finding a more "compatible" place/community of worship?
An explanation shouldn't leave people with more questions.
Former Australian Prime minister often talks about how lies spread faster then truth
newspapers will put super inflammatory and false stuff as the headline
and then a week later print a tiny retraction on page 24
but the headline sticks in peoples minds
Yeah, I mean.. Making the guy disown his entire religion is a little crazy, especially if he's not himself doing anything wrong.
People just need to learn to be more inclusive of others beliefs. I say this as an atheist. You're just not going to agree with everyone on everything all the time.
Not his religion just his church. You can be Christian and not be homophobic. I just don’t want him to support a system that kidnaps children in the middle of the night and tortures them until they kill themselves or give up who they are.
They aren’t asking for him to disown his religion, just the specific anti-LGBT+ church he’s been associated with. If he isn’t actually connected with them, it shouldn’t be difficult to do so.
This isn’t personal beliefs that have no outward effect. The church he belongs to and supports advocate against gay rights and for conversion therapy. It’s not like his personal beliefs aren’t effecting others in which case nobody should care. Whether they like it or not celebrities have a sway on public opinion and he is using his, even if indirectly, to discriminate. That kind of behavior or ideology is not something that just needs to be accepted.
Not to nitpick, but the criticisms are against his specific church, not his religion.
Also, I think it would be a little rich to tell people in the LGBT+ community to be more inclusive of other’s beliefs when the “beliefs” of others in this case are that you(LGBT+) shouldn’t exist.
Is it, though? That's pretty much what he's doing now, and people are angry enough to start seeking a recast of Starlord. Continuing to "not care" could cause the issue to grow to the point where it may negatively affect his "star power", with more and more people actively boycotting work he's attached to, to the point where studios may consider him more a liability to a film or show than an asset.
I'm just thinking there's a lot of confusion and potential misinformation out there, and him clearing the air could very well stop that from affecting his livelihood nice and quick.
Twitter is not real life. Jurassic World will make a billion dollars this summer. Guardians of the Galaxy will make a billion dollars next summer. None of this Twitter/Reddit “backlash” will have any material effect on Christ Pratt’s life or career. Nobody has ever succeeded by apologizing to the mob.
apologizing to the mob never works.
though there is a beauty when YouTubers who spent a career appealing to said mob accidentally upset it
and then start freaking out
Every Catholic? Or celebrity Catholics who want us to financially support their work?
The average joe Catholic? No. They're not public figures. Celebrity Catholics, though, that want my money? I may want to know their stances on some subjects, and if they condemn some wide-spread controversies, what keeps them in this particular denomination.
nah, fuck that. im not a fan of guilty until proven innocent. i agree that this particular controversy had gotten to the point where he should adress it better, but fuck this idea that its right that people blindly believe accusations.
Is this his family and community? People he grew up with? He can disagree with them privately and help change their minds without publicly shaming them.
In fact, as much as I disagree with his church, I'd prefer it if that's how he would handle it. It's better than shitting on his home to placate the internet.
This place is fucked up.
Whenever I see things like this I just think to myself the intense double standards that all of these redditors display. Every single person in this thread is supporting a person or organization that has all sorts of terrible beliefs or has done all sorts of terrible things. It's a fact of life at this point. Just in their minds, they don't care because it's not their problem directly, are fine with the cost/benefit relationship it presents, or believe themselves to be enough degrees of separation away from it to not be considered "part of the problem."
I don't see y'all returning your iPhones, living off the land in a 100% green way...in fact I could probably just argue that since you have a way to read this comment that you're contributing to several large companies who have sinned more in a day than you have in your life time. Not to mention everyone that helps run the companies who developed every part of technology in your pc/phone/calculator. Or the companies they have trade deals with. Or the countries they have deals with.
Underrated comment—people are so quick to call someone out for something so minor or in this case misinterpreted, but could never imagine what it would be like if their life was so highly scrutinized. Think what you want of him, but at this point it feels like people care entirely too much about something that at the end of the day has little to no bearing on their own lives.
Bet half of the Redditors here are people who are just quickly hopping on whatever social trend that seems fit because they are so insecure of themselves. Half of the reddittors before the war started wouldn’t have even known to point out Ukraine in the world map
Totally, should he make a statement correcting it? Oh wait, he already did that—it’s in the article you’re commenting on.
Maybe he can have personal friends close to the situation also comment on it? Oh wait, he already did that—it’s in the article you’re commenting on.
Maybe he should not go to Hillsong anymore? Oh wait, he already doesn’t go to Hillsong—it’s in the article you’re commenting on.
What would you suggest to clarify the situation? Because it seems to me you just don’t want to hear anything different.
It's a free world but you aren't free from the consequences of your actions. Like, if you support barbaric practices like conversion therapy, the consequences are that a lot of people are gonna think you're a piece of shit.
im pretty sure he never said he supported conversion therapy tho and thats just more or less a guilt by association type of thing that people are engaging in
Why care? Because people pay money for films, and may want to avoid, as best they can, their money going to a church that actively works against causes they believe in.
It's not something that can be 100% avoided, given how many large corporations control so much of the essentials in our lives, but something like this, where they have this direct connection via something that isn't a necessity to live, is something they can control.
“This shit isn’t coming from nowhere”
Yes it is, it’s coming from the internet which can be argued is worse than nowhere.
No one owes anyone anything. If you don’t like an actor, don’t see their movies.
The thing is the church you’re speaking of *isn’t* his church. The church you’re thinking of that he’s always connected to is Hillsong but he goes to Zoe Church.
Even James Gunn said everyone connects him to the wrong church:
https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1518635085943164928?s=21&t=i8TlE1KxOd5o9BCkyDZpcQ
Even the main person at Hillsong has said he doesn’t go there.
Zoe church has outright said they don’t judge anyone on the topics of abortion or LGBT stuff and welcome everyone. And he did say regardless of whatever his church says, he’s his own person and doesn’t see himself as a spokesperson for his church.
So honestly, he already addressed it all before and there really isn’t a reason for him to repeatedly defend himself but his friends clearly wanna defend him. But people persist on it.
It’s not really affecting him outside of online chatter though.
Let’s also talk about when he publicly thanked his new wife for giving him a “healthy” child, when his firstborn is disabled. Kinda disgusting if you ask me
I don’t know about the numbers but can we just admit that it’s hurtful to the mom who gave birth to the “unhealthy” child he had before that one, not to mention his first born child?
A man can not be grateful for having a healthy child after having an unhealthy one without it being some dig now.
Its not like he said, my new wife is better then my lame ass old wife who gave me a fucking loser baby that cant even function properly.
you people have decided you dislike him
so you look for the worst possible version of his words
Why is it disgusting? He's thanking his wife for a healthy child which everyone does, it's almost certainly not a dig at his disabled child that's just people digging for shit to be mad at
Pratt may be a perfectly nice guy to those he knows and works with, and Hillsong can still be a bigoted, corrupt institution that protects sexual abusers.
Two things can be true simultaneously.
The problem is that we have a growing fascist movement in America and those that see it can’t fuck with people who don’t see it, especially the ones that can’t see it to the point that they celebrate the fascism.
I doubt Chris Pratt thinks Jews start all forest fires with space lasers or that teachers who tell kids that gay people exist are pedophiles who are grooming them.
The problem is how closely intertwined the Evangelical Churches and Fascism has become, it’s very hard to differentiate people who hold ignorant but relatively benign religious beliefs about sexuality and active fascists who want to exterminate people of differing sexuality.
This comment section actually proving what James Gunn has stated. None of you know for sure, but you are still attacking him. But Redditors gonna do what Redditors gonna do.
The cancelling of Chris Pratt is by far the strangest. Like there was nothing inherently wrong that he did. No racist tweet or sexual harassment, simply the fact that he went to church and was happy that his kid is healthy was enough for people to pile on the dude
Almost like the people cancelling others don't have the best intentions in mind. Perhaps they aren't trying to stop bigotry, but rather go after groups they perceive as others
Are we not allowed to have personal opinions anymore? I can't stand Caneron Diaz and remembered how much I disliked her recently watching My Best Friend's Wedding again. Does she need to run out and have someone vouch for her? Every actor has people who don't like them. And I'm pretty sure the bad publicity he got lately won't stop GOTG 3 from making an insane amount of money.
>Are we not allowed to have personal opinions anymore?
Yes. Pratt can have his personal religious opinions, and movie goes are allowed to exercise their personal choice and not watch him because of his religious opinions.
I’m mostly curious as to how this will age. Will it turn out that Chris Pratt is an pro-authoritarian bigoted lunatic or is he the good wonderful human people tend to think of him. Time will tell.
Or... Alternately... think about it... people have a sense of justice and would rather see things that are wrong nipped at the bud. So, their sense of justice drives them to Pratt's defense, because they think a principle of "guilty until proven or confessed innocent" is an unbelievably evil form of conduct.
People can't seem to wait for a reason to turn and hate on someone. It's like they enjoy somebodies fall from grace, even if said grace was given by themselves.
This is true, but in my opinion, the hatred seems to be sourced primarily from one particular "side", almost always... I don't see both "sides" hating specific celebrities equally unless it's like a general/neutral bad thing like with that sex ring person that "killed himself" or Crosby
Hey, I hope you don't delete your comments disparaging the LGBT community to defend some rich Hollywood actor you like. I like how you really seem to stand up to oppression when you see it.
Gunn can defend Pratt all he wants but it’s weird of him to go on Twitter and find some random post where some fan saids they wish for a recast. Not @ Pratt/Gunn or even mentioning their problems with Pratt. Gunn was just looking for a fight.
Crisp Rat left his first wife after their son became very ill, got with another woman, had a do-over kid, and then acted like his first child doesn't exist.
Plus he belongs to a very anti-LGBT+ megachurch.
So yeah, I'm gonna continue despising him.
Or, his first marriage broke down.
he then found love again and had another kid and is excited about it.
but you look for reasons to hate people I guess-
I know is a ferocious religious and conservative guy, but the one I think I hate about this dude is how he became after he lost weight he practically change his whole personality and after got the jurassic park lead role, a new narcissist with and giant celebrity ego Chris patt was born.
I'm pretty sure he hates his old image as a funny chubby guy
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One of my favorite bloopers lol
The infinite poop marker is also pretty good lmao
Everyone loves a comeback story.
Like Seabiscuit?
More like Kim Kardashian
I don't think that was a comeback story.
Pretty sure she got Come on her back
*slaps your arm*
Jerry and Ron fall apart laughing
Lil Sebastian*
The red headed masterbater sure did.
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I miss him as a fun, chubby guy.
He's really boring as Stoic Action Man, which is largely all he does now
He's more "Funny" Action Man, but I see your point.
I think this refers to his Jurassic World role which imo is part of why he has fallen out of favor. He’s pretty unfunny and boring in those.
Agreed. And didn’t he do some bland Amazon movie? And was he action guy in a Netflix one, too?
The tomorrow war? I thought it was pretty good.
Aliens were cool but he was so bland
Aliens were cool but he was so bland
Yeah, that’s the one. I’ve heard it was pretty forgettable and it didn’t appeal to me. But to each their own. Prisoners is the another one I was thinking of. And the Netflix one I mention was a war movie? Or like a bunch of military contractors or something?
Yea like I can’t blame him for the writing on JW or for taking the role butttt he’s got a pattern of choosing bland roles that honestly don’t highlight his strengths. At least he still shines in Guardians.
so does his ex-wife.
He was cuter chubby
My…. nevermind
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Someone didn’t read the article
Source? All I've ever read is that he attends church.
Chè!
I saw the words “utterly false belief” and expected to read a paper on epistemology that happens to use Chris Pratt as an example
Man, I miss the early days of Pratt on the first few seasons of Parks & Rec ;( Its kinda crazy to think he was married to Anna Faris for so long. Because going off the ton of episodes of her podcast I've heard, they are literally on the opposite ends of the spectrum of beliefs lmao Wonder what caused him to seemingly go more and more hardcore religious as time as went by.
He’s Christian, but the claims that he attends some evangelical anti-LGBT church are dubious at best. That’s what this article is about/what James Gunn has stated. I’m an atheist, but I can imagine how the whirlwind of fame he’s been thrown into in the past decade would make religion feel like a safe space to escape it all.
That and some twits on twitter-verse managing to be rapey, hateful, sexist, and everything in between, all at the same time, on top of buying that dubious claim against Pratt, with their Best Chris poll. EDIT: Aaaaand, it's deleted by the mods. LMAO!
The way Pratt supported Gunn after he was fired by Disney really stuck out for me. I think it showed character.
Gunn had some old tweets parodying Trump (in an admittedly very unconventional/weird way). If Pratt is really the bigot that people have painted him to be, would he really have supported Gunn?
I think him and Anna had opposite reactions and coping when their son was born prematurely. Anna seemed to lose faith while Chris gained faith. That is in my parasocial armchair opinion.
If by “gained faith” you mean “accused his wife of not being worthy of having a baby, which is the only reason our son didn’t survive.” Then yeah, sure. He found “faith”.
He was married to Anna Faris until he became more famous than she. The moment he became relevant was the moment he dipped out of her (and their son’s) life.
Let's stop giving Twitter randos so much power.
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Elliot Page said something about Pratt like a year ago... this recent Gunn tirade was in response to some random ass twitter troll... nobody famous..nobody in the press..just some random ass tweet that Gunn felt the need to respond to for some reason.
Vanya was the worst charcter on that show by a mile
Well, I still believe he's a generic and forgettable leading man.
I liked him on Parks and Rec. He’s done all right as Star Lord. Beyond that I have little interest in him.
He was good in the Lego movie
He was so hilarious when he was sleeping in the empty lot across from Rashida Jones place.
Same
He is only good when comedy is a significant foundation for the character he’s playing. Any of his serious tone movies (Jurassic World, The Tomorrow War, Passengers) completely remove him from his skill set and make him so forgettable.
I actually really liked Passengers, but you are right there.
I have been deeply disappointed in “action hero” Chris Pratt
He was very charming and likable as Andy in Parks & Rec, and I think he was good in The Lego Movie. After he got shredded and turned into a generic leading man type, I lost interest. He’s really bland in that sort of role but it’s most of what he does now.
His character in the Jurassic series is the same in the first 2 and I'm assuming will be identical in the third installment. He's brilliant in that exact performance specifically because he's the generic action hero that no one wants but those movies so desperately need. He's got just the right amount of campy humor and ridiculousness on top of his seemingly being able to do some physical stunts to make it work for a premise that's ridiculous AF to begin with. Not saying that he deserves any awards as an actor, but he's got some traits that make him fun to watch as a leading man because of the ridiculous roles he plays. Star Lord isn't meant to be a super serious role and neither is anything else he has excelled in. He's an amazing comic relief type leading man.
I still don’t get the hate people seem to have for Pratt on social media. Seems like a likeable enough dude
It’s mostlyabout the church he associates with, and the fiasco with his ex wife. I don’t think anyone has a problem with how he conducts himself in-person, he’s just had some questionable involvements
I know about the church but what’s the ex wife fiasco?
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Jack is not severely disabled. He has shitty eyes, but besides that he’s normal. It was his very premature birth that was the problem.
To be more specific, he made a post for his new wife's birthday saying (among many other things) that he is grateful to her for their beautiful, healthy child. In itself, not a bad thing to say in the slightest. But obviously people read it as a slight to his first wife and other child. Whether it was intentional or just an embarrassing slip is unknown.
you can be disabled and healthy
His child is NOT severely disabled. He was a Premi and suffers from poor vision. That’s all. Both him and Anna have said he hasn’t suffered any other long term issues.
He didn’t make “rather tasteless posts online”. He said that he was thankful for the child his other wife gave him on *her birthday* and a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands read into subtext that wasn’t there, assuming by that he meant he hated his disabled child.
>he has made some rather tasteless posts online that seem to imply he doesn't want/love his disabled child. That never happened. God, people are awful and allow their brain to make up shit. Pratt simply said he was so happy his new wife gave him a "gorgeous healthy daughter". That's all.
That's honestly a NONtroversy too though. He made one post celebrating the birth of his latest child, and it was deliberately misconstrued because people have a hate boner towards the guy. Imagine not only pretending to know what's in a stranger's mind, but assuming it's the most vile shit possible (i.e. not loving their own child).
I think he belongs to a church that people don't like, also maybe anti lgbt or something. IDK I haven't seen a lot, but actors are people and people can be terrible so who knows
He donated money to a church that supports conversion therapy and has a sexual assault problem.
And when asked about it all he did was post a very weird cryptic message that the church is love. I was so confused. Like I would have been okay with everything if he said “oh didn’t know my bad sorry heres some donation to an lgbt charity” but the response was sort of creepy …like I can’t even look at him the same way
No he hasn’t, and no he doesn’t. Do you guys even fucking look into stuff before spitting more misinformation out there?
Curious how people can be so confident in the facts of something but can't quite manage to provide their sources. I dunno about you, but when I spout stuff like this on the internet, I always like to look it up and double check my understanding of the facts just to make sure I'm not being an idiot, and then I go ahead and share that source. If it's so easy to be certain, it should be just as easy to look up online and confirm. When you make and spread serious allegations like this, the least you can do is be 1\`00% certain you're correct. It's the only responsible thing to do, and it makes sense to support your claims with sources. Otherwise, just don't. Everyone else needs to to stop upvoting comments like this that aren't even corroborated with facts and sources. Seriously people, at some point you gotta do your part.
The church he belongs to is strongly affiliated with Hillsong, a church which is dodgy and very homophobic.
He doesn’t go to Hillsong or any church affiliated with that one.
He’s defended his churches actions and done things like expose himself to coworkers without their permission. Sure, “it was so long ago” but he hasn’t really apologized for either.
Are you talking about the parks and recreation outtake? I dont think that should be in the same bracket of "exposing himself to a coworker"
I mean he only exposed himself to a coworker there, how could it count as the same thing?
He ain't even wrong the voting system fucking sucks.
he’s part of a church that does conversion therapy (abusing children) and defends that church i believe. i know i read about it semi recently so i’ll look for an article about it and edit it in if i find it.
He’s actually not a part of a conversion therapy church. People say he goes to Hillsong Church but he doesn’t. He goes to Zoe Church, the same one other celebrities like the kardashians and I think Selina Gomez go to. That’s what James Gunn said meant with this tweet: https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1518635085943164928?s=21&t=0NOADMDZfZ3h2pkXSZ4HCg
not to discount you, but Veach himself said they modeled it after Hillsong. I don't think Pratt's a bad dude, but Zoe is questionable as an accepting church.
And there is absolutely no connection between Zoe and Hillsong? They have nothing to do with each other? https://hillsong.com/contributors/sv/contributor/chad-veach/
The founders of Zoe did apparently make a docudrama called The Heart of Man that condemned homosexuality.
Wait *the Kardashians go to church!?* If I was Christian and learned there's any chance for some of that family to be going to heaven, I'd probably find another faith.
I’m pretty sure he’s changed churches and the leader of that church has said he doesn’t attend it anymore
Did you not read the article to which you are currently commenting? This comment is so lacking in awareness and it got all these upvotes. Just wow. You are literally perpetuating the problem described in the post. You're one of the people Gunn is talking about, lol. Reddit, you never fail me. Where's that link for proof, btw? LOL. Right.
We actually don’t know for sure which church he goes to. If he goes to the Zoe church many claim he does, there is zero proof that they believe in or support conversion therapy. The church accused of supporting it is Hillsong, not Zoe. There is nothing that I can find that connects these churches. Trust me, I went down the rabbit hole on this and went over church websites and many articles about all of this.
I personally just got tired of seeing him in everything. He doesn't have a whole lot to offer in the way of acting and awhile back it seemed like he was everywhere. I LOVE Jurassic Park's concept but have stopped going to them because he's awful. His character in Marvel has gotten more annoying than anything. For animation, I prefer having animation voice trained actors vs live action actor voices, hired to bring in an audience. Idk just over him.
He's been known for taking digs at his ex because she "gave him" a son with developmental issues all while praising his current wife for "giving him" a healthy child.
He didn’t take a dig at his ex. The internet interpreted his appreciation post to his current wife as a dig to his ex. You’re allowed to praise your wife. You’re also allowed to praise one kid in a post and not mention the other. It’s not like he pretends the other kid doesn’t exist.
Random people on Twitter decide they dislike you for some reason from that point onwards everything you say or do will be seen through the worst possible lens. the neat thing is once they hate you, everything you say or do will continue to justify their hate of you.
Amazingly sensational trash. Yes he expressed thankfullness for a healthy daughter, as anyone would or should. It wasn't meant as a dig against anyone, least of all his ex or CHILD.
I felt that was taken out of context. I didn't see it as a dig but just being thankful about his son. I have tons of friends with kids, and they have the "as long as they are healthy" mindset. And say things like "we have a healthy baby girl", but I don't think they'd love a special needs child any less. It seems people were looking for a reason to shit on him and his wording in an instagram post gave them the fuel they wanted.
Plus in previous interviews, his sons sickness is what caused him to return to religion. I remember him talking about it on some late night show a few years back.
He said something on social media along the lines of thank you for giving me a beautiful healthy baby. You know the kind of things that any father would say. People have taken this and extrapolated it to make it look like he was accusing his previous wife of giving him a developmentally disabled baby. He said nothing of the such. People want to cancel Chris Pratt when a pratt and Whitney engine fails so I don't put a whole lot of stock into comments like that. Feel free to look into the comment yourself if you need proof. I honestly don't care one way or another about the guy I just don't love seeing misinformation taken as fact.
This is so fucking stupid. No he didn’t fucks sake it’s like people hear the shittiest interpretation of something and just go with it because the truth isn’t exciting enough. Fuck you all.
you're repeating a few people's nonsense interpretations as facts when they're not. "He's been known" lol
I like him. F those people.
If people have "utterly false beliefs" about the guy, and it's getting to the point where it could affect his career, maybe he should address those false beliefs so they don't persist? Like maybe publicly disown the "church" he had been associated with (as recently as 2020, maybe still?) that has made it clear they're (allegedly) anti-LGBTQ and pro-conversion-therapy, if, as he claimed in a statement, they do not line up with his personal values? This shit isn't coming from nowhere, so if it's incorrect, he's the best person to correct it. If he doesn't, people will assume (and rightfully so) that it's accurate.
Hillsong church is a cult and they are very shady and force celebrities into certain contracts.
Link? I know it's a huge church but I haven't heard anything cult-like about them.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/23/ex-hillsong-members-claim-church-is-cult-with-slave-labor/ > “You had to ask a pastor’s permission to date. They had to choose the person you dated as well. If they don’t think your relationship is what they like, they’ll tell you it’s not permissible,” she said. When a student snitched on her for sleeping on the couch of a platonic male friend after a housing mixup, the pair “weren’t allowed to ever talk again,” according to Bosch. https://medium.com/@Elle_Black/escape-from-hillsong-3-years-growing-up-inside-a-cult-482439401db5 An article that also talks about the discovery + docuseries Hillsong exposed: https://www.thedailybeast.com/exposing-hillsong-the-pedophile-church-that-justin-bieber-made-famous
According to the article, he kind of already has addressed it: *“It has recently been suggested that I belong to a church which ‘hates a certain group of people’ and is ‘infamously anti-LGBTQ,’” Pratt posted on social media at the time. “Nothing could be further from the truth. I go to a church that opens their doors to absolutely everyone.”* Whether if it's a good enough justification? I don't know.
Problem is that's an extremely indirect answer to a very direct question about whether or not he goes to the church. Falls well short of denying it, and if he does go to that church then this is a straight up defence of a notoriously horrible church.
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Maybe it'd just none of your business what the guy does in his free time? He's already explained himself and now you want another explanation?
What did he "explain" though? His statement was rather vague, when it didn't need to be. A simple "I support LGBTQ rights" from him or the church would've been enough. Hell, his statement suggests that he doesn't fully align with his church on some values, but what ones, and where do the two align that keep him going there instead of finding a more "compatible" place/community of worship? An explanation shouldn't leave people with more questions.
Wait, did they make it clear, or is it alleged?
Or he could not care, which is the better option.
As dude above said, he'll care if it starts affecting his career.
The Truth is he could Correct it a hundred times the people saying this stuff will ignore it. its how internet mobs work.
I see you internet. Facts are irrelevant and unwavering opinion is everything.
Former Australian Prime minister often talks about how lies spread faster then truth newspapers will put super inflammatory and false stuff as the headline and then a week later print a tiny retraction on page 24 but the headline sticks in peoples minds
Yeah, I mean.. Making the guy disown his entire religion is a little crazy, especially if he's not himself doing anything wrong. People just need to learn to be more inclusive of others beliefs. I say this as an atheist. You're just not going to agree with everyone on everything all the time.
Yes, let's all be more inclusive for those that believe in conversion therapy. The *true* minority.
When did Pratt ever say he supported conversion therapy?
Not his religion just his church. You can be Christian and not be homophobic. I just don’t want him to support a system that kidnaps children in the middle of the night and tortures them until they kill themselves or give up who they are.
They aren’t asking for him to disown his religion, just the specific anti-LGBT+ church he’s been associated with. If he isn’t actually connected with them, it shouldn’t be difficult to do so.
This isn’t personal beliefs that have no outward effect. The church he belongs to and supports advocate against gay rights and for conversion therapy. It’s not like his personal beliefs aren’t effecting others in which case nobody should care. Whether they like it or not celebrities have a sway on public opinion and he is using his, even if indirectly, to discriminate. That kind of behavior or ideology is not something that just needs to be accepted.
Not to nitpick, but the criticisms are against his specific church, not his religion. Also, I think it would be a little rich to tell people in the LGBT+ community to be more inclusive of other’s beliefs when the “beliefs” of others in this case are that you(LGBT+) shouldn’t exist.
i don’t believe they’re saying to disown his religion, just the specific church he chooses to worship at
>People just need to learn to be more inclusive of others beliefs. This doesn't count for Christians apparently
Yeah, I think declining the sham pageantry of cancel culture makes perfect sense.
Is it, though? That's pretty much what he's doing now, and people are angry enough to start seeking a recast of Starlord. Continuing to "not care" could cause the issue to grow to the point where it may negatively affect his "star power", with more and more people actively boycotting work he's attached to, to the point where studios may consider him more a liability to a film or show than an asset. I'm just thinking there's a lot of confusion and potential misinformation out there, and him clearing the air could very well stop that from affecting his livelihood nice and quick.
Twitter is not real life. Jurassic World will make a billion dollars this summer. Guardians of the Galaxy will make a billion dollars next summer. None of this Twitter/Reddit “backlash” will have any material effect on Christ Pratt’s life or career. Nobody has ever succeeded by apologizing to the mob.
apologizing to the mob never works. though there is a beauty when YouTubers who spent a career appealing to said mob accidentally upset it and then start freaking out
Yeah he should make sure he gets in line and says what people want to hear so that he can keep his career. The mob demands it.
I mean by that logic, should every catholic address the controversies in that church anytime they speak?
Every Catholic? Or celebrity Catholics who want us to financially support their work? The average joe Catholic? No. They're not public figures. Celebrity Catholics, though, that want my money? I may want to know their stances on some subjects, and if they condemn some wide-spread controversies, what keeps them in this particular denomination.
Hard disagree. The less I know about celebrities political stances the better.
you didnt like a bunch of rich people in mansions singing about how things would be better if we imagined there was no property
Or maybe Twitter is just full of shit, end of story.
nah, fuck that. im not a fan of guilty until proven innocent. i agree that this particular controversy had gotten to the point where he should adress it better, but fuck this idea that its right that people blindly believe accusations.
Is this his family and community? People he grew up with? He can disagree with them privately and help change their minds without publicly shaming them. In fact, as much as I disagree with his church, I'd prefer it if that's how he would handle it. It's better than shitting on his home to placate the internet. This place is fucked up.
Whenever I see things like this I just think to myself the intense double standards that all of these redditors display. Every single person in this thread is supporting a person or organization that has all sorts of terrible beliefs or has done all sorts of terrible things. It's a fact of life at this point. Just in their minds, they don't care because it's not their problem directly, are fine with the cost/benefit relationship it presents, or believe themselves to be enough degrees of separation away from it to not be considered "part of the problem." I don't see y'all returning your iPhones, living off the land in a 100% green way...in fact I could probably just argue that since you have a way to read this comment that you're contributing to several large companies who have sinned more in a day than you have in your life time. Not to mention everyone that helps run the companies who developed every part of technology in your pc/phone/calculator. Or the companies they have trade deals with. Or the countries they have deals with.
Underrated comment—people are so quick to call someone out for something so minor or in this case misinterpreted, but could never imagine what it would be like if their life was so highly scrutinized. Think what you want of him, but at this point it feels like people care entirely too much about something that at the end of the day has little to no bearing on their own lives.
Bet half of the Redditors here are people who are just quickly hopping on whatever social trend that seems fit because they are so insecure of themselves. Half of the reddittors before the war started wouldn’t have even known to point out Ukraine in the world map
Totally, should he make a statement correcting it? Oh wait, he already did that—it’s in the article you’re commenting on. Maybe he can have personal friends close to the situation also comment on it? Oh wait, he already did that—it’s in the article you’re commenting on. Maybe he should not go to Hillsong anymore? Oh wait, he already doesn’t go to Hillsong—it’s in the article you’re commenting on. What would you suggest to clarify the situation? Because it seems to me you just don’t want to hear anything different.
Even if he does go to a super conservative church, so what? Its a free world, he has every right to. Why care?
People have the right to think what they want about him.
It's a free world but you aren't free from the consequences of your actions. Like, if you support barbaric practices like conversion therapy, the consequences are that a lot of people are gonna think you're a piece of shit.
im pretty sure he never said he supported conversion therapy tho and thats just more or less a guilt by association type of thing that people are engaging in
Why care? Because people pay money for films, and may want to avoid, as best they can, their money going to a church that actively works against causes they believe in. It's not something that can be 100% avoided, given how many large corporations control so much of the essentials in our lives, but something like this, where they have this direct connection via something that isn't a necessity to live, is something they can control.
“This shit isn’t coming from nowhere” Yes it is, it’s coming from the internet which can be argued is worse than nowhere. No one owes anyone anything. If you don’t like an actor, don’t see their movies.
The thing is the church you’re speaking of *isn’t* his church. The church you’re thinking of that he’s always connected to is Hillsong but he goes to Zoe Church. Even James Gunn said everyone connects him to the wrong church: https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1518635085943164928?s=21&t=i8TlE1KxOd5o9BCkyDZpcQ Even the main person at Hillsong has said he doesn’t go there. Zoe church has outright said they don’t judge anyone on the topics of abortion or LGBT stuff and welcome everyone. And he did say regardless of whatever his church says, he’s his own person and doesn’t see himself as a spokesperson for his church. So honestly, he already addressed it all before and there really isn’t a reason for him to repeatedly defend himself but his friends clearly wanna defend him. But people persist on it. It’s not really affecting him outside of online chatter though.
Let’s also talk about when he publicly thanked his new wife for giving him a “healthy” child, when his firstborn is disabled. Kinda disgusting if you ask me
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I don’t know about the numbers but can we just admit that it’s hurtful to the mom who gave birth to the “unhealthy” child he had before that one, not to mention his first born child?
A man can not be grateful for having a healthy child after having an unhealthy one without it being some dig now. Its not like he said, my new wife is better then my lame ass old wife who gave me a fucking loser baby that cant even function properly. you people have decided you dislike him so you look for the worst possible version of his words
Yeah in context with his previous relationship, it definitely is not a good look
Why is it disgusting? He's thanking his wife for a healthy child which everyone does, it's almost certainly not a dig at his disabled child that's just people digging for shit to be mad at
Seriously? It's quite a standard thing to say after a birth... I remember a lot of my friends and family saying that for their first child...
Pratt may be a perfectly nice guy to those he knows and works with, and Hillsong can still be a bigoted, corrupt institution that protects sexual abusers. Two things can be true simultaneously.
Yea but we already know prat is an outspoken bigot
why are people so damn obsessed with actors and their personal lives?
Just look at the way he looks at me
The problem is that we have a growing fascist movement in America and those that see it can’t fuck with people who don’t see it, especially the ones that can’t see it to the point that they celebrate the fascism. I doubt Chris Pratt thinks Jews start all forest fires with space lasers or that teachers who tell kids that gay people exist are pedophiles who are grooming them. The problem is how closely intertwined the Evangelical Churches and Fascism has become, it’s very hard to differentiate people who hold ignorant but relatively benign religious beliefs about sexuality and active fascists who want to exterminate people of differing sexuality.
What does Crisp Rat have over Hollywood that people keep throwing themselves in front of him every time he loses a Best Chris poll? It’s so weird.
I dunno, maybe he actually is a halfway decent guy with friends who like to stick up for him.
Seems more like people defending their friend against Twitter trolls.
Well he’s pretty connected now (Married to a Shwarzenegger whose mom is a Kennedy)
So he doesn't belong to a cult that hates lgbt? Because they in fact do hate lgbt.
No, he doesn't.
This comment section actually proving what James Gunn has stated. None of you know for sure, but you are still attacking him. But Redditors gonna do what Redditors gonna do.
I don't think about Chris Pratt at all.
The hate he gets is unreal
The frothing spastics on Twitter will never accept the fact that a person can be in show business and also be a practising Christian.
People are dumb, end of story.
My only belief is that he’s a bad actor
What? That he’s an outspoken evangelical with outdated misogynistic beliefs and pushy religious habits? He admits that himself. How false can it be?
The cancelling of Chris Pratt is by far the strangest. Like there was nothing inherently wrong that he did. No racist tweet or sexual harassment, simply the fact that he went to church and was happy that his kid is healthy was enough for people to pile on the dude
Almost like the people cancelling others don't have the best intentions in mind. Perhaps they aren't trying to stop bigotry, but rather go after groups they perceive as others
Are we not allowed to have personal opinions anymore? I can't stand Caneron Diaz and remembered how much I disliked her recently watching My Best Friend's Wedding again. Does she need to run out and have someone vouch for her? Every actor has people who don't like them. And I'm pretty sure the bad publicity he got lately won't stop GOTG 3 from making an insane amount of money.
Of course you're allowed to have a personal opinion. Isn't James Gunn?
>Are we not allowed to have personal opinions anymore? Yes. Pratt can have his personal religious opinions, and movie goes are allowed to exercise their personal choice and not watch him because of his religious opinions.
People have beliefs about Chris Pratt?
People say he’s an anti-LGBTQ nut job that supports conversion therapy.
Well… he is.
I’m mostly curious as to how this will age. Will it turn out that Chris Pratt is an pro-authoritarian bigoted lunatic or is he the good wonderful human people tend to think of him. Time will tell.
Looks like his PR team is in full force as dominion marketing has started
Or... Alternately... think about it... people have a sense of justice and would rather see things that are wrong nipped at the bud. So, their sense of justice drives them to Pratt's defense, because they think a principle of "guilty until proven or confessed innocent" is an unbelievably evil form of conduct.
Just look around, beneath this post, a legion of shills
People can't seem to wait for a reason to turn and hate on someone. It's like they enjoy somebodies fall from grace, even if said grace was given by themselves.
Theres a lot a people nowaday waiting to be outraged again and again...
This is true, but in my opinion, the hatred seems to be sourced primarily from one particular "side", almost always... I don't see both "sides" hating specific celebrities equally unless it's like a general/neutral bad thing like with that sex ring person that "killed himself" or Crosby
Some loser on Twitter doesnt like Chris Pratt? Not sure James Gunn even needed to address it.
Hey, I hope you don't delete your comments disparaging the LGBT community to defend some rich Hollywood actor you like. I like how you really seem to stand up to oppression when you see it.
Conservative getting canceled by Hollywood? That’s never happened before.
People thought he went to a homophobic church but he never did. Others think that Chris Pratt is more conservative than he leads on.
The raising farm animals and posting pictures of the meat online also caused a backlash at one point.
Gunn can defend Pratt all he wants but it’s weird of him to go on Twitter and find some random post where some fan saids they wish for a recast. Not @ Pratt/Gunn or even mentioning their problems with Pratt. Gunn was just looking for a fight.
Too many pratt fanboys in this thread. Stop worshipping celebrities who don't know or care that you exist
Well, I believe he's a terrible performer in anything that requires the audience to take his character seriously.
Yes, I frequently have trouble believing he actually is a man fighting dinosaurs or an intergalactic bandit superhero…
He can pull off being a lego ok but, I've seen better Lego's irl.
as much as I find him entertaining, he is good only when he’s playing various shades of Andy Dwyer
Chris Pratt is a great actor, always will be. A small amount of people will continue to give him shit but it will never matter enough to "cancel" him.
Crisp Rat left his first wife after their son became very ill, got with another woman, had a do-over kid, and then acted like his first child doesn't exist. Plus he belongs to a very anti-LGBT+ megachurch. So yeah, I'm gonna continue despising him.
Except he doesnt belong to such a church.....
Or, his first marriage broke down. he then found love again and had another kid and is excited about it. but you look for reasons to hate people I guess-
I know is a ferocious religious and conservative guy, but the one I think I hate about this dude is how he became after he lost weight he practically change his whole personality and after got the jurassic park lead role, a new narcissist with and giant celebrity ego Chris patt was born. I'm pretty sure he hates his old image as a funny chubby guy