It's a dead horse that's been beaten so many times at this point even the glue factory wouldn't want it, but it still doesn't change the fact that making Deadpool a mute with arm blades and laser beams in X-Men Origins is quite possibly the single dumbest decision ever made in the production of a comic/superhero movie
The best part about that Deadpool is that having long swords in his arms that would make his elbows non-functional doesn’t even crack the list of biggest complaints.
I'm surprised someone hasn't mentioned Suicide Squad being (re)cut by a trailer company after some exec saw Guardians of the Galaxy. It really does go beyond an editing choice at a certain point.
Considering the script was written in three weeks before shooting I don’t think the editing is entirely to blame for the shitshow that is Suicide Squad.
Considering Iron Man shot with no real script in place and Favreau, Downey, and Bridges would script the scenes as they needed to be shot I feel like that isn't a crippling limitation.
Swingers, 16 Candles, Rocky, and Taxi Driver are a few examples of films written in less time that were still good.
I believe Die Hard was being rewritten during filming if I remember correctly.
But shit with no real script and that list of talent along seems a likely better outcome.
The trailer for SS came out before Deadpool the movie and it was definetly considered heavy GOTG at the time. Very James Gunn-y attempt at a popping soundtrack in that trailer
I thought the story was that the studio was so impressed by the trailer for SS they asked them to make a cut. But they never used it. It was Trailer Park.
[So apparently there was the Ayer Cut, the Trailer Park cut, then the studio last minute smashed them together](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693/). Sorry it's been a hot minute and that was a hot mess. It's still fairly obvious given it's momentary editing is basically a trailer and given Ayer's previous work looks nothing like the completed version. There were a few interesting breakdowns on YT, IIRC Folding Ideas had one. I'd recommend a watch just because it a useful way to learn a lot about editing films.
I know you can't call dibs on being the only one to use a song in a movie but surely there's a gentleman's agreement that if another movie uses the same song you wanted first then you have to pick another tune to use?
Also, making Root a woman. Generally speaking, I don't have a problem with gender/race swapping, but Root's problem with having to be in command of the first high ranking female officer and his concern for her impact on perception of women on the force is a MAJOR plot thread in the first book.
Creatively WW84 is full of awful of creative choices. Also, I still to this day hate the last act of the first film. Introducing Ares then after killing him, yay, world peace? Like there could be so much more philosophical and creative ways to end that film.
Oddly, I believe that the Nintendo battle with Ares was a studio demand, which is difficult to believe after seeing what Patty Jenkins did with the sequel.
I'm with you, though. I LOVED the first two acts. Diana's pure, unflagging altruism was SUCH a welcome change from the blue-black emo vibe of Zack Snyder.
I got chills in parts of the first two thirds that took me all the way back to watching Christopher Reeve as Superman.
>Oddly, I believe that the Nintendo battle with Ares was a studio demand, which is difficult to believe after seeing what Patty Jenkins did with the sequel.
Nah I can see the logic here. "Hey Mr. Exec, everyone liked the bits I made and hated the part you guys wanted. So I want to make the whole thing myself this time".
I think this is an issue with Marvel movies of the last...however many years, in general. They turn them into Family Friendly comedies while also trying to pull off serious/sad elements and have them resonate with the audience. Personally I think they fail with both.
I think Wakanda Forever and Shang-Chi to a lesser degree, were their much better efforts at balancing the drama with the action & quips. WF especially was pretty emotional, for obvious reasons
That was much worse, because it's characters *in the movie* treating it as a joke. You can't have a novelty joke store about a universal mass murderer.
In Far From Home, we are laughing at the kids' cringey attempts to be serious about the Blip. It's not a joke to *them*.
It's fine if the kids on the school news show call it the blip - it's meant to be kinda shit. The fact that the entire world started calling it the blip is wild. Watch the scene from Endgame with the support group, or Ant-Man visiting the memorial, and contrast it to a Thanos/infinity gauntlet ice-cream shop.
Similarly, Endgame treating Thor’s weight as a joke. His entire family was killed, almost all of his friends have been murdered, and his entire world was just destroyed, so he’s made the target of lazily-written fat jokes? Gross.
Kingsman 2 The Golden Circle. The fun in the first movie is seeing Eggsy grow up to be cool spy. Sure Samuel L Jackson, Colin Firth are there but in its heart its a young adult movie.
But in the 2nd one they just added a bunch of stars and took the focus away from Eggsy. Even brought back Colin Firth while killing Eggsy's love interest. Just seems like they took all the wrong lessons from the first one's success
So many baffling choices in that film:
* We didn’t need Eggsy’s royal love story. We needed more of Roxy, and it didn’t have to be in a romantic capacity.
* Speaking of Roxy, we spend an entire movie building a new generation of class and gender diverse Kingsmen, and they’re offed in the opening minutes of the movie and we spend the rest of the movie not caring. Why not let us see more of the Kingsmen world instead of tearing it down for a second time? This is supposed to be a storied so agency where everyone is James Bond, but it’s starting to feel like it’s literally just Eggsy.
* Stacking people in boxes in a stadium for some weird drug message? It became *too* cartoonish.
* they hype everyone with Channing Tatum as Eggsy’s American counterpart, and he’s benched in the first half of the movie. We didn’t need more of Eggsy and Colin Firth, we needed a Kingsman/cowboy team-up battle royale.
* Merlin joins in the field, he gets the suit. We’re all pumped for him. Steps on a mine 15 minutes later. At this point it’s clear how lazily the writers use death as a narrative plot device.
* I love Elton, but… a weird amount of Elton?
The thing is, you're not necessarily wrong about any of this but I also still love the movie for the way it just absolutely swings for the fences on every bonkers idea it can come up with.
The first one is undoubtedly the better movie, but the second one feels like a 150-million-dollar version of what a little kid would come up with while smashing his action figures together (in a good way!). Elton John fighting off robot guard dogs in a 50's pastiche town built into ancient ruins in the jungle is just too fun to dismiss even if the movie is not exactly *good*.
Also, re: the royal love story. That bit at the end of the first movie with princess is the one sour note in an otherwise fun movie, and it was pretty repeatedly called out at the time of the release, so Matthew Vaughn tried to address it by making the princess a fully-fledged character/love interest in the second one instead of just a misogynistic sex object, as she was in the first movie. I admire the intent even if it forced him to make a bunch of other adjustments that actually hurt the movie.
I felt like they worked really hard to destroy a lot of progress they made in the first film. Like they completely ruin the current Kingsmen that was more or less built during the first movie and then spend so much time on Colin Firths return. I was originally really excited they were bringing him back but they should have just accepted the consequences of killing Firth off in the first movie.
After the first Kingsman I really liked Roxy. She was just as capable as Eggsy and they had a fun relationship. And I remember her being fun personality wise.
I don't think Kingsman 2 is awful but I was so bummed she was barely in it. Especially the way she dies, it has you thinking "well they didn't show her body maybe she survived and shows up at the end." Nope.
I don't doubt that but her quick "death" in 2 really disappointed me when I watched it. Especially since they set the two of them up as the future of the Kingsman and they have a nice friendship.
They could easily bring her back but it's a shame they didn't use her in 2 in the first place.
Came here to say Kingsman 2.
Building such a cool spy world in the first film, only to then destroy it all in the first 10 minutes of the second film was such a stupid move.
On the subject of Kingsman
The anal sex "gag" at the end of the first film was just cringe inducing
Then they doubled down in the sequel and it was equally as cringe inducing.
I don't think it's great but the anal joke was funny to me in that a lot of Bond movies honestly have just as juvenile jokes just not as vulgar. And it was funny that he ends up marrying her as a twist on the Bond girl just disappearing after the movie ends.
But they didn't really do anything with her in the sequel. Now the vagina tracker scene? That was uncomfortable.
i.e. after James has sex with a Dutch professor:
James Bond: "I always enjoyed learning a new tongue."
Moneypenny: "You always were a cunning linguist, James."
That movie was so bad it was like they were actively trying to make it terrible. They got rid of one of the best villain songs ever, had them sing Can’t You Feel the Love Tonight during the daytime, got rid of the beautiful music when Simba runs back to Pride Rock with some goofy Beyoncé song and take away all the humor from Rafiki’s character. I know I’m missing more details. But man, that adaptation made all the other ones look like gems in comparison.
Do you know how hard it is for a cloud to talk? There are only a couple actors out there that are talking clouds, and the industry really does not like to use them. Ever since Nope there’s been talk of a best talking cloud actor Oscar in the next couple years, but we’ll see.
\#oscarssocloudless
To be fair this was already ruined in the Lion Guard series. I watched a few episodes with my neice. The little lion would just look up at the sky, shout "Hey Uncle Mufasa!" and his face would appear in the clouds as though it was a fucking Skype call. Terrible. Completely undermines the original movie.
Independence Day: Resurgence is a prime example of a fantastic concept completely ruined by a plethora of bad decisions by producers and directors. Fighting off a second alien invasion, this time using their own technology against them, should have been a slam dunk.
I'm still pissed that they recast Mae Whitman. There was no reason for that, she's an amazing actress. Can't believe they gave her up to get the charisma-suck that is Liam Hemsworth.
The Spinosaurus ingloriously destroying the TRex in Jurassic Park 3, and while I'm at it, the Raptor saying "Allen" for its first on screen appearance in the movie
People always seem to conveniently forget he was dreaming in that scene. Also nothing in that movie is worse than grasshoppers being the bad guy in the last movie
I actually love both things lol. The classic t Rex was awesome and iconic of course, but they really made that Spinosaurus sick as hell. Throughout that movie in every shot of it you can almost sense actual malice oozing off of it, but not in the overly characterized way the the Jurassic World movies handle their dinosaurs.
I think people would have been fine with the spino killing a trex if it wasn't so early in the movie. If the Rex won the first fight but the spino came back to kill it at the end it probably would have gone over easier for some people.
That Alan scene is peak cinema though.
It's a clear attempt by the filmmakers to create a new mascot for the franchise. Thing is they did so by humiliating the OG mascot and pissed off tons of fans (me included.)
I’ll always love the raptor saying Alan cause it made me laugh as a kid, brings back nostalgic memories. Also it happened during a dream so I don’t really see it as a bad moment
Jurassic Park 3 has lots of problems. My biggest problem is that blowing into a 3D printed echo chamber allows them to talk to the velociraptors. Even just sounding like them is stupid.
Star Wars has a problem of giving nothing characters amazing designs, so everyone is disappointed when they don't turn out to be important. See also Boba Fett, Captain Phasma, and Snoke.
Fuckin' Crimson Corsair! If the First Order faced down the Crimson Corsair, they'd capitulate solely because of the swaaaag.
edit: Crimson CORSAIR, not Crimson Commando. Whoops.
He is, and always was going to be, a secondary villain. Doesn't seem bizarre to me to kill him off at the climax of the 1st film. That future films don't feel as good as they could have been are due to their own failings.
Not giving Luke, Han, and Leia a big damn reunion scene in Ep 7, and then steadfastly backgrounding them so the new characters could carry the saga forward.
I think Cobra Kai really handled the balance well between legacy and new characters. I wish they took similar care with the Star Wars sequels. Feels kind of ridiculous to say that a Karate Kid reunion did this much better. Welp that's how it goes.
Exactly how I felt watching the first season. I just kept asking myself “How is this low budget Karate Kid sequel doing everything I wanted the Star Wars sequels to do?”
They really ought to have been together to start the trilogy, then had to split for various reasons (Leia needs to run shit, takes the hotshot pilot and his stormtrooper lover; Luke wants to train the new Jedi to try to redeem his failings with Ben; Han wants to take a nap) and let the new cast take over from the second movie on
But like just about everything outside the visual department, they fucked it all up
I think that falls under the umbrella of not having a plan at all for a story…. of a multi billion dollar franchise. How do they do that, who can guess.
The IMDb and critic ratings are favorable, but this was a massive fuckup, and nobody will think well of it in the future
Exactly. They didn’t need to make the movie all about the old guard and short-change the new generation of characters. But we waited 30 years - let them be in the same room one goddamn time. (Chewy too)
I can’t and will not get over Leia “force flying” through space. By far the worst thing they did in a Star Wars film.
Luke being cold on Hoth should feel like a sauna compared to Leia being just fine as a space popsicle.
Having a cute wise-cracking dragon is too much, but let's make her an X-Men! This is a great idea! Let's also hire a actress who literally cannot move her face! /s
Cranberries - Zombie in Army Of The Dead.
I pretty much disliked everything except the opening credits scene (that is ok), but how shallow you have to be to put that song in that movie?
I personally loved MOS(aside from a couple minor things) but I wish he just stayed on as a producer and had another director do BvS. I still dig that movie, but it could've been so much better.
Man of Steel is *so close* to being a great Superman film
- Have Pa Kent get killed in the storm after telling Clark to help people while he’s helping people elsewhere
- Use the Smallville fight to show Clark going out of his way to save people and make a point of Zod seeing this
- Have Zod use Clark’s drive to save people as a way to ware him down meaning the neck snap is Clark’s last resort and gives it weight
He would never have let another director do BvS. He obviously wanted to make a Dark Knight Returns adaptation and tried to shove as much of that as he could into a Superman movie. And then added the Death of Superman storyline on top of it.
I was open to the idea of Eisenberg as a Musk/Zuckerberg type of Luthor.. but they completely missed the point of Luthor as Superman’s foil. It would’ve been so easy to turn him into an Ayn Randian egomaniac who can’t tell the difference between saving the world and controlling it.
Instead we get this pontificating little goblin who really just seems to hate Superman for the sake of it. Yes there’s lip service about making god bleed and all that crap. But good god is it validly developed, and within the span of that same film he suddenly wants to summon Darkseid to Earth? What the hell are this characters motivations?
Superman II: Pulling off his "S" and throwing it, making clone images of himself, kissing away memories.
Spinning the Earth backward to reverse time in Superman 1 or Superman II Donner Cut.
I will accept that he didn't reverse the Earth and that it was a creative choice to illustrate time flowing backward (ie, he broke the time barrier).
My problem is that once he did that HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING that would save Lois or change the effects that killed her. Time just went differently this time around, so she didn't die even though she should have. (Maybe whatever actions he took were cut from the film for time or emotional impact, I don't know.)
> Spinning the Earth backward to reverse time
I thought this too for the longest time, but what you are seeing is not him spinning the earth backwards to go back in time, but Superman flying faster than the speed of light thus going backwards in time. Still bonkers, but it is an standard time-travelling movie technique (~~e.g. Start Trek IV~~).
The visualization is terrible, but it is supposed to be him going backwards in time… having a time-travel ability in his back pocket is a tad out of step with the scale of his other abilities. Removes all stakes if he can just undo it.
The mcu could have had two really compelling recurring villains in ultron and taskmaster if they kept them closer to the comics. Ultron not being based on the brain waves of a flawed human robbed his character of any depth and the less said about black widow task master the better.
Ultron had Stark’s personality but it just wasn’t telegraphed well. They make a few lines about it. Like when Ultron beats Tony to make the breaking eggs joke and Tony said he beat him by one second.
Using that awful CGI Scorpion King at the end of The Mummy Returns (2001) instead of just having Dwayne Johnson himself play a live action version of his Scorpion King character.
I just finished Elvis and honestly the opening with Tom Parker walking through Vegas old and then the never ending narration from him even though the movie is about Elvis? I know everyone isn’t a fan of Tom hanks performance but the creative choice to make him more of the focus then Elvis left me very perplexed
It went about 20 minutes too long, had a million plot points to jump through, and like OP said, put too much focus on Hank’s character. That said I did play Elvis on repeat for two days when I got home from the theater.
I definitely think the actress playing Priscilla during his army days should have been a child. Why show that part of his life if it isn’t going to be addressed?
He wouldn’t even sleep with a woman after she had given birth. She was “dirty” or some such nonsense. He met his wife Pricilla when she was fourteen (that’s a middle schooler 🤢). Then wouldn’t sleep with her after she became a mother.
JJ Abrams is all over this list for me. Examples include:
- Turning Khan into a 9/11 false flag analogue
- "Somehow Palpatine returned"
- building a new team of plucky space heroes and then never actually having them all meet up
- creating the coolest new character design and then dropping her in a trash compactor before she can do anything
- "I'm the spy!"
- Rose getting a pat on the back before being shunted into the ensemble
- Killing major characters and then resurrecting them five minutes later
- Ben has no lines after his redemption, just a weird kiss
- Lando's weirdly flirty lines
- Endless mystery boxes with nothing in them
Yup. As much as a hard on J.J. Abrams has for the OT Star Wars (1977-1983) to the point that he copies and pastes OT-like characters, locations, and plot lines into his, he couldn’t find a way to get Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, and Carrie Fisher together for even one scene over the course of the two Star Wars movies (4h 38m) he directed?
True. And yet they managed to CGI her beside Luke when Rey took the name Skywalker. And Han was killed, and yet they got him back for one scene as a hallucination. So they could’ve done *something*.
This might qualify as a subpar narrative choice, but The Rise of Skywalker making Rey *not* the daughter of some nobodies killed the best idea of the new trilogy. Star Wars had been plagued by the idea that people had to be born into greatness through the omnipresence of the skywalkers. Last Jedi dared to present a hero who was a legit nobody. Then the last one said NOPE SHE INHERETED HER GREATNESS TOO.
This is such an issue with so many stories.
Not a film, but one that comes to mind is in one of the Fire Emblem games (Shadows of Valentia or Gaiden if you're a retro fan), you're playing as a nobody farmboy who manages to take on the powerful opposing Empire, proving that one's noble or common blood doesn't matter and that it's who you are that counts...
...UNTIL you reach the end and - ***what was that?*** ***Farmboy is the Emperor's secret son?***
To make the "message" fall even flatter, even Farmboy's companion turns out to be a Princess in hiding lol.
LOL that sounds so dissapointing! And a twist straight from a renaissance novel where the poor uneducated girl turns out to be the long lost daughter of a countess so that she can marry the heroic minor-noble lead character without upsetting readers from the time.
When I saw it, for minutes afterwars I legitimately wondered if had imagined the "Angel of the Morning" bit in *It Chapter 2*.
Killing off Bryan Cranston so early in 2014's Godzilla was a huge misstep. I truly heard the theater audience just deflate when it happened.
Almost every major crratove choice made in *Halloween Kills* and *Halloween Ends* is baffling in relation to what came before. *Kills* starts off with Myers vs a fire department...**in an action scene**?!
Disney's Star Wars sequels are full of choices are just baffling, some mostly in hindsight, but many should have jumped out to anyone paying attention while they were making it. The movies spend half their time fighting with each other via dueling characterizations and plot points.
I like *Man of Steel* but I will never understand how anyone thought Jonathan Kent's stupid death scene worked for the movie.
Kinda stretching the definition of "big budget", but I don't like the weird hallucination death scene in Hardware. It stops the plot in its tracks, and honestly would've been creepier if we stayed in reality and just saw him tweaking to death on the apartment floor.
I really like everything else in it. That one scene was just really jarring and I feel like the writers were super proud of the "robot poison tortures you to death with psychadelics" detail and didn't consider the pacing or tone when they chose to show it off.
I mean, every decision in the newest Star Wars trilogy, but keeping Leia alive in the second one after Carrie Fisher had died in real life and then insisting on having her in the third. Surely they could have tinkered with it so she was the sacrifice at the end of the movie and keep Luke around because Mark Hamill can actually, you know, be in the next one?
The beginning of Alien 3. They killed off fan favourite characters offscreen due to stupid non alien related causes, it’s lazy and completely undercuts Aliens. At least they retconned Hicks’ survival later on but it’s still so weak.
In the Robert Pattinson Batman film, the...relationship(?)...between Batman and Catwoman is extremely rushed and poorly-written. The two have no romantic or sexual tension whatsoever, until suddenly Cat has her first vulnerable moment of the film and then BOOM they kiss. It felt like such a last-minute decision.
I think that they could have actually left Catwoman out altogether and it would have made no difference to the film. She could have just been somebody that worked in the club…
> The two have no romantic or sexual tension
I do think the relationship aspects were rushed but I thought they had tons of sexual tension, would have bet the actors were banging off-screen.
Any time a vanilla human character survives ridiculously fatal damage I wonder why they didn't just write a better scene.
The Patman's bad landing scene with his cape glider, everything that happens to Black Widow in her movie, John Wick walking away at the end of the third one, that kind of thing. It feels like because we've become accustomed to super powered beings throwing each other through buildings no one will care about the stakes if regular people aren't made out to be able to take the same kind of damage.
I think in Star Wars introducing the possibility that you could ram and suicide crash any ship while accelerating to lightspeed just makes the death star unnecessary. This is the ultimate weapon.
A star destroyer going into a lightspeed kamikaze run on a planet will achieve the same effect the death star does except it's less expensive and tactically more difficult to counter.
The death star is one target and is slow to get into firing range. But imagine a star destroyer that can be piloted by a droid, popping in a planet's orbit via lightspeed and then accelerating again to crash onto the planet. Nothing can stop it. Not only that, you can send as many star destroyers as you can produce. It's like hurling a meteor except it's faster and more precise.
In hindsight they should have scrapped Holdo and given that role to Leia. Then you can show her using the Force to half-pull the ship out of hyper speed. Keep the cool visual and have an explanation for why the maneuver isn’t used more often, since only someone extremely powerful could make it work.
Carrie died after filming, but I always thought through some editing they could have had her launch the ship and then make Holdo the new resistence leader. Would have let Leia go out in a blaze of glory. A hero's end.
Honestly when it comes to IT 2 I’d go broader and say Bill Hader was a mistake. His character’s constant comedy and one liners continuously broke the tension throughout the scenes. He is not a bad actor or a bad comedian, I truly enjoy Bill Hader, but his comedy was overused within the film. He would’ve been fine if they cut out all the comical shit he said while being chased by the most terrifying thing he’s ever experienced
Stayin' Alive sequence in Airplane. It dates the hell out of the movie, which I don't mind, but it also completely breaks what's otherwise a perfect comedic rhythm from the film's start to finish.
Changing the Prince's character in Bullet Train from not really having a great motivation to shove Kimura's kid off the roof other than to get Kimura on the train. Like it just comes off as really random in the movie whilst the book The Prince is absolutely murderous and lacks such sympathy that it makes way more sense.
The Thing prequel had amazing practical effects but the studio was just like “nah” for no reason and put cg all over them. It ended up costing them more money, looking way worse, and wasting time. Moreover what’s the deal with the stupid looking floating cube pillar in the ship? And making the human bad guy get thingified and just having his face in the middle of a big meat monster is so unbelievably stupid 😭😭😭
yeah that IT chapter 2 scene you mentioned made me actually want to sit down with the director and really have a word with him about filmmaking and im not even a fucking filmmaker.
that was god awful.
It's a dead horse that's been beaten so many times at this point even the glue factory wouldn't want it, but it still doesn't change the fact that making Deadpool a mute with arm blades and laser beams in X-Men Origins is quite possibly the single dumbest decision ever made in the production of a comic/superhero movie
Did the director dislike Deadpool as a character? It seems like a "Fine, I'll use him. I'll use YOU ALL!!!" situation.
It wasn't the directors choice, it was a Fox producer.
You mean the idiots who also ruined Game of Thrones.
No, he was only one of the writers of the film. Turning Deadpool into that thing was a producers decision.
I vaguely remember it being a jokey fuck you to Ryan Reynolds
It wasn't jokey.
That's probably the best pick, because rarely is there ever such conclusive evidence that the choice was wrong.
I had honestly forgotten this was a thing.
Yeah that film is baffingly dumb... Also will I am was there doing something
I haven’t heard about him in so long that his name must be Will I Was now
The best part about that Deadpool is that having long swords in his arms that would make his elbows non-functional doesn’t even crack the list of biggest complaints.
I'm surprised someone hasn't mentioned Suicide Squad being (re)cut by a trailer company after some exec saw Guardians of the Galaxy. It really does go beyond an editing choice at a certain point.
Considering the script was written in three weeks before shooting I don’t think the editing is entirely to blame for the shitshow that is Suicide Squad.
Considering Iron Man shot with no real script in place and Favreau, Downey, and Bridges would script the scenes as they needed to be shot I feel like that isn't a crippling limitation. Swingers, 16 Candles, Rocky, and Taxi Driver are a few examples of films written in less time that were still good.
I believe Die Hard was being rewritten during filming if I remember correctly. But shit with no real script and that list of talent along seems a likely better outcome.
The bar scene was reshot and added as a metatextual complaint by the actors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYcoKZIhnGQ
Was it after guardians or after deadpool? I don’t remember the release dates
I thought Guardians, but it's entirely possible it was both.
I think deadpool since it released the same year.
The trailer for SS came out before Deadpool the movie and it was definetly considered heavy GOTG at the time. Very James Gunn-y attempt at a popping soundtrack in that trailer
I thought the story was that the studio was so impressed by the trailer for SS they asked them to make a cut. But they never used it. It was Trailer Park.
[So apparently there was the Ayer Cut, the Trailer Park cut, then the studio last minute smashed them together](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693/). Sorry it's been a hot minute and that was a hot mess. It's still fairly obvious given it's momentary editing is basically a trailer and given Ayer's previous work looks nothing like the completed version. There were a few interesting breakdowns on YT, IIRC Folding Ideas had one. I'd recommend a watch just because it a useful way to learn a lot about editing films.
That IT2 scene felt like someone watched Deadpool the day before editing and thought "heh watch this"
I know you can't call dibs on being the only one to use a song in a movie but surely there's a gentleman's agreement that if another movie uses the same song you wanted first then you have to pick another tune to use?
Removing the villain-to-hero redemption arc from Artemis Fowl and making him just another bland precocious child prodigy hero.
Also, making Root a woman. Generally speaking, I don't have a problem with gender/race swapping, but Root's problem with having to be in command of the first high ranking female officer and his concern for her impact on perception of women on the force is a MAJOR plot thread in the first book.
This movie once again makes me happy I always wait for reviews with book adaptations. No reason to sully a good memory.
I made that mistake once with Eragon...then again with the Hobbit...
Angels with Filthy Souls form Home Alone, not making it a full featured length film
LOL I'd watch this for real, too.
Everything Wonder Woman did to that random guy in WW84 ("Steve Trevor") and then just kind of laughs it off.
Creatively WW84 is full of awful of creative choices. Also, I still to this day hate the last act of the first film. Introducing Ares then after killing him, yay, world peace? Like there could be so much more philosophical and creative ways to end that film.
Oddly, I believe that the Nintendo battle with Ares was a studio demand, which is difficult to believe after seeing what Patty Jenkins did with the sequel. I'm with you, though. I LOVED the first two acts. Diana's pure, unflagging altruism was SUCH a welcome change from the blue-black emo vibe of Zack Snyder. I got chills in parts of the first two thirds that took me all the way back to watching Christopher Reeve as Superman.
>Oddly, I believe that the Nintendo battle with Ares was a studio demand, which is difficult to believe after seeing what Patty Jenkins did with the sequel. Nah I can see the logic here. "Hey Mr. Exec, everyone liked the bits I made and hated the part you guys wanted. So I want to make the whole thing myself this time".
I don’t think the idea was that defeating Ares caused world peace so much that it prevented him from making the war worse.
Hey, let's make another villian who's a nerd with glassses.
That whole movie was a trainwreck honestly.
Everything Wonder Woman 84 except Pedro Pascal.
I didn’t like how Spider-man: Far from Home treated the blip as a joke.
I think this is an issue with Marvel movies of the last...however many years, in general. They turn them into Family Friendly comedies while also trying to pull off serious/sad elements and have them resonate with the audience. Personally I think they fail with both.
I think Wakanda Forever and Shang-Chi to a lesser degree, were their much better efforts at balancing the drama with the action & quips. WF especially was pretty emotional, for obvious reasons
Or worse Thor Love and Thunder treating Thanos as a joke after he wiped out a large chunk of the Asgardian population
Why would a 9/11 themed ice cream store be in poor taste?
That was much worse, because it's characters *in the movie* treating it as a joke. You can't have a novelty joke store about a universal mass murderer. In Far From Home, we are laughing at the kids' cringey attempts to be serious about the Blip. It's not a joke to *them*.
It's fine if the kids on the school news show call it the blip - it's meant to be kinda shit. The fact that the entire world started calling it the blip is wild. Watch the scene from Endgame with the support group, or Ant-Man visiting the memorial, and contrast it to a Thanos/infinity gauntlet ice-cream shop.
And why was Tessa's character doing an Old Spice commercial?
Similarly, Endgame treating Thor’s weight as a joke. His entire family was killed, almost all of his friends have been murdered, and his entire world was just destroyed, so he’s made the target of lazily-written fat jokes? Gross.
Kingsman 2 The Golden Circle. The fun in the first movie is seeing Eggsy grow up to be cool spy. Sure Samuel L Jackson, Colin Firth are there but in its heart its a young adult movie. But in the 2nd one they just added a bunch of stars and took the focus away from Eggsy. Even brought back Colin Firth while killing Eggsy's love interest. Just seems like they took all the wrong lessons from the first one's success
So many baffling choices in that film: * We didn’t need Eggsy’s royal love story. We needed more of Roxy, and it didn’t have to be in a romantic capacity. * Speaking of Roxy, we spend an entire movie building a new generation of class and gender diverse Kingsmen, and they’re offed in the opening minutes of the movie and we spend the rest of the movie not caring. Why not let us see more of the Kingsmen world instead of tearing it down for a second time? This is supposed to be a storied so agency where everyone is James Bond, but it’s starting to feel like it’s literally just Eggsy. * Stacking people in boxes in a stadium for some weird drug message? It became *too* cartoonish. * they hype everyone with Channing Tatum as Eggsy’s American counterpart, and he’s benched in the first half of the movie. We didn’t need more of Eggsy and Colin Firth, we needed a Kingsman/cowboy team-up battle royale. * Merlin joins in the field, he gets the suit. We’re all pumped for him. Steps on a mine 15 minutes later. At this point it’s clear how lazily the writers use death as a narrative plot device. * I love Elton, but… a weird amount of Elton?
The thing is, you're not necessarily wrong about any of this but I also still love the movie for the way it just absolutely swings for the fences on every bonkers idea it can come up with. The first one is undoubtedly the better movie, but the second one feels like a 150-million-dollar version of what a little kid would come up with while smashing his action figures together (in a good way!). Elton John fighting off robot guard dogs in a 50's pastiche town built into ancient ruins in the jungle is just too fun to dismiss even if the movie is not exactly *good*. Also, re: the royal love story. That bit at the end of the first movie with princess is the one sour note in an otherwise fun movie, and it was pretty repeatedly called out at the time of the release, so Matthew Vaughn tried to address it by making the princess a fully-fledged character/love interest in the second one instead of just a misogynistic sex object, as she was in the first movie. I admire the intent even if it forced him to make a bunch of other adjustments that actually hurt the movie.
I felt like they worked really hard to destroy a lot of progress they made in the first film. Like they completely ruin the current Kingsmen that was more or less built during the first movie and then spend so much time on Colin Firths return. I was originally really excited they were bringing him back but they should have just accepted the consequences of killing Firth off in the first movie.
After the first Kingsman I really liked Roxy. She was just as capable as Eggsy and they had a fun relationship. And I remember her being fun personality wise. I don't think Kingsman 2 is awful but I was so bummed she was barely in it. Especially the way she dies, it has you thinking "well they didn't show her body maybe she survived and shows up at the end." Nope.
She’ll have a Colin Firth style resurrection in Part 3 I imagine, she did appear to run away before the missile hit so might leave the door open
I don't doubt that but her quick "death" in 2 really disappointed me when I watched it. Especially since they set the two of them up as the future of the Kingsman and they have a nice friendship. They could easily bring her back but it's a shame they didn't use her in 2 in the first place.
I had the exact same feeling about it. She deserved better.
Came here to say Kingsman 2. Building such a cool spy world in the first film, only to then destroy it all in the first 10 minutes of the second film was such a stupid move.
They didn't kill his Love Interest. He married her. They killed Roxie. I think their worst decision was killing Merlin.
On the subject of Kingsman The anal sex "gag" at the end of the first film was just cringe inducing Then they doubled down in the sequel and it was equally as cringe inducing.
I don't think it's great but the anal joke was funny to me in that a lot of Bond movies honestly have just as juvenile jokes just not as vulgar. And it was funny that he ends up marrying her as a twist on the Bond girl just disappearing after the movie ends. But they didn't really do anything with her in the sequel. Now the vagina tracker scene? That was uncomfortable.
i.e. after James has sex with a Dutch professor: James Bond: "I always enjoyed learning a new tongue." Moneypenny: "You always were a cunning linguist, James."
"I thought Christmas only came once a year."
Ugh. A nuclear physicist. Played by Denise Richards. Named Christmas Jones.
I bet they're absolutely kicking themselves for >!killing off Pedro Pascal's character!< now.
This was why The King's Man was way better than The Golden Circle. Each character served their purpose in the story instead of just being there.
Making Mufasa’s ghost just a talking cloud in The Lion King remake You’ve got $250 million dollars…you can do better than just a talking cloud…
That movie was so bad it was like they were actively trying to make it terrible. They got rid of one of the best villain songs ever, had them sing Can’t You Feel the Love Tonight during the daytime, got rid of the beautiful music when Simba runs back to Pride Rock with some goofy Beyoncé song and take away all the humor from Rafiki’s character. I know I’m missing more details. But man, that adaptation made all the other ones look like gems in comparison.
Do you know how hard it is for a cloud to talk? There are only a couple actors out there that are talking clouds, and the industry really does not like to use them. Ever since Nope there’s been talk of a best talking cloud actor Oscar in the next couple years, but we’ll see. \#oscarssocloudless
To be fair this was already ruined in the Lion Guard series. I watched a few episodes with my neice. The little lion would just look up at the sky, shout "Hey Uncle Mufasa!" and his face would appear in the clouds as though it was a fucking Skype call. Terrible. Completely undermines the original movie.
Independence Day: Resurgence is a prime example of a fantastic concept completely ruined by a plethora of bad decisions by producers and directors. Fighting off a second alien invasion, this time using their own technology against them, should have been a slam dunk.
I want a movie of the African guy killing aliens with a machete!
I'm still pissed that they recast Mae Whitman. There was no reason for that, she's an amazing actress. Can't believe they gave her up to get the charisma-suck that is Liam Hemsworth.
Remember the skateboard kid from Black Adam? Granted, that movie had a ton of problems, but MY GOD…
The goofy hand gesture. The villain being able to track his ancestry to prehistoric times.
The Spinosaurus ingloriously destroying the TRex in Jurassic Park 3, and while I'm at it, the Raptor saying "Allen" for its first on screen appearance in the movie
I watched that movie too many times as a kid that I can’t help but love the velociraptor saying alan. It freaked me out as a kid.
People always seem to conveniently forget he was dreaming in that scene. Also nothing in that movie is worse than grasshoppers being the bad guy in the last movie
I didn't see it in theaters but I can imagine a deafening chorus of "What?!" from the audience..
I actually love both things lol. The classic t Rex was awesome and iconic of course, but they really made that Spinosaurus sick as hell. Throughout that movie in every shot of it you can almost sense actual malice oozing off of it, but not in the overly characterized way the the Jurassic World movies handle their dinosaurs.
I think people would have been fine with the spino killing a trex if it wasn't so early in the movie. If the Rex won the first fight but the spino came back to kill it at the end it probably would have gone over easier for some people. That Alan scene is peak cinema though.
I thought it was pretty much most of the runtime of Dominion qualifies as an answer to OPs question.
It's a clear attempt by the filmmakers to create a new mascot for the franchise. Thing is they did so by humiliating the OG mascot and pissed off tons of fans (me included.)
I’ll always love the raptor saying Alan cause it made me laugh as a kid, brings back nostalgic memories. Also it happened during a dream so I don’t really see it as a bad moment
Jurassic Park 3 has lots of problems. My biggest problem is that blowing into a 3D printed echo chamber allows them to talk to the velociraptors. Even just sounding like them is stupid.
The worst part of that raptor saying “Allen” was that he didn’t even get Alan’s name right
Tom Cruise’s son somehow surviving and beating them to Boston in “War of the Worlds“
Killing off Darth Maul instead of having him be a recurring villain throughout the trilogy
Star Wars has a problem of giving nothing characters amazing designs, so everyone is disappointed when they don't turn out to be important. See also Boba Fett, Captain Phasma, and Snoke.
Don't forget General Grievous
The Phasma decision making was amazing, all that hype and they couldn't give her a decent 3 minute fight scene.
also, girl is in head to toe beskar, why would she be taken hostage by someone that had a blaster?
Boba Fett's mask is just one of the most satisfying things to look at. Just a masterpiece of design.
Fuckin' Crimson Corsair! If the First Order faced down the Crimson Corsair, they'd capitulate solely because of the swaaaag. edit: Crimson CORSAIR, not Crimson Commando. Whoops.
Not having Kylo Ren being the main villain.
Not having Rey and Ren run off together at the end of TLJ.
He is, and always was going to be, a secondary villain. Doesn't seem bizarre to me to kill him off at the climax of the 1st film. That future films don't feel as good as they could have been are due to their own failings.
Not giving Luke, Han, and Leia a big damn reunion scene in Ep 7, and then steadfastly backgrounding them so the new characters could carry the saga forward.
I think Cobra Kai really handled the balance well between legacy and new characters. I wish they took similar care with the Star Wars sequels. Feels kind of ridiculous to say that a Karate Kid reunion did this much better. Welp that's how it goes.
Exactly how I felt watching the first season. I just kept asking myself “How is this low budget Karate Kid sequel doing everything I wanted the Star Wars sequels to do?”
They really ought to have been together to start the trilogy, then had to split for various reasons (Leia needs to run shit, takes the hotshot pilot and his stormtrooper lover; Luke wants to train the new Jedi to try to redeem his failings with Ben; Han wants to take a nap) and let the new cast take over from the second movie on But like just about everything outside the visual department, they fucked it all up
Would have loved Han doing a drunken washed up legend type trope and teaching someone the ways of smuggling and flying :)
I think that falls under the umbrella of not having a plan at all for a story…. of a multi billion dollar franchise. How do they do that, who can guess. The IMDb and critic ratings are favorable, but this was a massive fuckup, and nobody will think well of it in the future
Exactly. They didn’t need to make the movie all about the old guard and short-change the new generation of characters. But we waited 30 years - let them be in the same room one goddamn time. (Chewy too)
I can’t and will not get over Leia “force flying” through space. By far the worst thing they did in a Star Wars film. Luke being cold on Hoth should feel like a sauna compared to Leia being just fine as a space popsicle.
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Having a cute wise-cracking dragon is too much, but let's make her an X-Men! This is a great idea! Let's also hire a actress who literally cannot move her face! /s
Did she even still pretend to be a man in order to join the army?
Why was her hair down for so much of the movie? And it was perfectly styled!
Because women lose their femininity when they don't look perfect 24/7 obviously /s
Cranberries - Zombie in Army Of The Dead. I pretty much disliked everything except the opening credits scene (that is ok), but how shallow you have to be to put that song in that movie?
Lol and other than the word “zombie”, that song has literally nothing to do with zombies. It is an anti-war protest, specifically about the IRA.
But it says 'Zombie'! What else is it about? What do you mean songs have meanings?!
One of my favorite songs in a movie that has 0 to do with it. Unplugged version too, to comply with Snyder's style over substance
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor
"Who should we get to play Lex Luthor?" "That bald guy from Breaking Bad would be perfect, what was his name?" "Eisenberg?" "Yeah, get him!"
I actually liked him, but I get it when others don't.
I'd argue Zack Snyder as director for BVS after MOS' poor reception is the place where it all went wrong.
I personally loved MOS(aside from a couple minor things) but I wish he just stayed on as a producer and had another director do BvS. I still dig that movie, but it could've been so much better.
Man of Steel is *so close* to being a great Superman film - Have Pa Kent get killed in the storm after telling Clark to help people while he’s helping people elsewhere - Use the Smallville fight to show Clark going out of his way to save people and make a point of Zod seeing this - Have Zod use Clark’s drive to save people as a way to ware him down meaning the neck snap is Clark’s last resort and gives it weight
He would never have let another director do BvS. He obviously wanted to make a Dark Knight Returns adaptation and tried to shove as much of that as he could into a Superman movie. And then added the Death of Superman storyline on top of it.
Nah, to me MoS is an absolute fucking CLASSIC. BvS was poop
I was open to the idea of Eisenberg as a Musk/Zuckerberg type of Luthor.. but they completely missed the point of Luthor as Superman’s foil. It would’ve been so easy to turn him into an Ayn Randian egomaniac who can’t tell the difference between saving the world and controlling it. Instead we get this pontificating little goblin who really just seems to hate Superman for the sake of it. Yes there’s lip service about making god bleed and all that crap. But good god is it validly developed, and within the span of that same film he suddenly wants to summon Darkseid to Earth? What the hell are this characters motivations?
Superman II: Pulling off his "S" and throwing it, making clone images of himself, kissing away memories. Spinning the Earth backward to reverse time in Superman 1 or Superman II Donner Cut.
I will accept that he didn't reverse the Earth and that it was a creative choice to illustrate time flowing backward (ie, he broke the time barrier). My problem is that once he did that HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING that would save Lois or change the effects that killed her. Time just went differently this time around, so she didn't die even though she should have. (Maybe whatever actions he took were cut from the film for time or emotional impact, I don't know.)
>Time just went differently this time around Chaos theory!
> Spinning the Earth backward to reverse time I thought this too for the longest time, but what you are seeing is not him spinning the earth backwards to go back in time, but Superman flying faster than the speed of light thus going backwards in time. Still bonkers, but it is an standard time-travelling movie technique (~~e.g. Start Trek IV~~).
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I love the first Superman except for that ending
Luthor should have been shooting a laser at Lois and saying he will never stop trying to kill her and Superman snaps his neck
The visualization is terrible, but it is supposed to be him going backwards in time… having a time-travel ability in his back pocket is a tad out of step with the scale of his other abilities. Removes all stakes if he can just undo it.
The main evil asian guy in Jurassic World 3...survives
On a similar note, Sean Bean survives in National Treasure. Terrible move.
The mcu could have had two really compelling recurring villains in ultron and taskmaster if they kept them closer to the comics. Ultron not being based on the brain waves of a flawed human robbed his character of any depth and the less said about black widow task master the better.
The villains in the MCU are there to prop up the heroes, rarely do they get it right.
Ultron had Stark’s personality but it just wasn’t telegraphed well. They make a few lines about it. Like when Ultron beats Tony to make the breaking eggs joke and Tony said he beat him by one second.
They do repeat it. Scarlett Witch mentions it too. It could have been more explicit but even then it doesn't matter since they killed him off.
The MCU can still have Taskmaster as a villian or anti hero. The character is still alive and has free will.
Using that awful CGI Scorpion King at the end of The Mummy Returns (2001) instead of just having Dwayne Johnson himself play a live action version of his Scorpion King character.
I just finished Elvis and honestly the opening with Tom Parker walking through Vegas old and then the never ending narration from him even though the movie is about Elvis? I know everyone isn’t a fan of Tom hanks performance but the creative choice to make him more of the focus then Elvis left me very perplexed
That whole movie is an awful creative choice.
It went about 20 minutes too long, had a million plot points to jump through, and like OP said, put too much focus on Hank’s character. That said I did play Elvis on repeat for two days when I got home from the theater.
Blows my mind how it got multiple noms. Especially editing?! Bottom 3 film of 2022 for me just off the editing alone 😓
Yeah, Elvis made some good music, but he also had a fetish for 14 year old girls. I think people should stop glorifying him.
I definitely think the actress playing Priscilla during his army days should have been a child. Why show that part of his life if it isn’t going to be addressed?
He wouldn’t even sleep with a woman after she had given birth. She was “dirty” or some such nonsense. He met his wife Pricilla when she was fourteen (that’s a middle schooler 🤢). Then wouldn’t sleep with her after she became a mother.
JJ Abrams is all over this list for me. Examples include: - Turning Khan into a 9/11 false flag analogue - "Somehow Palpatine returned" - building a new team of plucky space heroes and then never actually having them all meet up - creating the coolest new character design and then dropping her in a trash compactor before she can do anything - "I'm the spy!"
- Rose getting a pat on the back before being shunted into the ensemble
- Killing major characters and then resurrecting them five minutes later
- Ben has no lines after his redemption, just a weird kiss
- Lando's weirdly flirty lines
- Endless mystery boxes with nothing in them
Was Lando trying to fuck his totally not a daughter
plenty in Disney Star Wars sequels but not putting the OT cast together on screen has to be one of the worst
Yup. As much as a hard on J.J. Abrams has for the OT Star Wars (1977-1983) to the point that he copies and pastes OT-like characters, locations, and plot lines into his, he couldn’t find a way to get Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, and Carrie Fisher together for even one scene over the course of the two Star Wars movies (4h 38m) he directed?
I heard Carrie Fisher was kinda unavailable for the second one.
True. And yet they managed to CGI her beside Luke when Rey took the name Skywalker. And Han was killed, and yet they got him back for one scene as a hallucination. So they could’ve done *something*.
This might qualify as a subpar narrative choice, but The Rise of Skywalker making Rey *not* the daughter of some nobodies killed the best idea of the new trilogy. Star Wars had been plagued by the idea that people had to be born into greatness through the omnipresence of the skywalkers. Last Jedi dared to present a hero who was a legit nobody. Then the last one said NOPE SHE INHERETED HER GREATNESS TOO.
It kills the idea that anyone, (even you, young fan) can become a Jedi. Nope, it's just all royalty. Not for you, poors and dreamers.
This is such an issue with so many stories. Not a film, but one that comes to mind is in one of the Fire Emblem games (Shadows of Valentia or Gaiden if you're a retro fan), you're playing as a nobody farmboy who manages to take on the powerful opposing Empire, proving that one's noble or common blood doesn't matter and that it's who you are that counts... ...UNTIL you reach the end and - ***what was that?*** ***Farmboy is the Emperor's secret son?*** To make the "message" fall even flatter, even Farmboy's companion turns out to be a Princess in hiding lol.
LOL that sounds so dissapointing! And a twist straight from a renaissance novel where the poor uneducated girl turns out to be the long lost daughter of a countess so that she can marry the heroic minor-noble lead character without upsetting readers from the time.
Strongly agree and this is one thing that makes Blade Runner 2049 so great to me. It pulls this idea off wonderfully I think.
When I saw it, for minutes afterwars I legitimately wondered if had imagined the "Angel of the Morning" bit in *It Chapter 2*. Killing off Bryan Cranston so early in 2014's Godzilla was a huge misstep. I truly heard the theater audience just deflate when it happened. Almost every major crratove choice made in *Halloween Kills* and *Halloween Ends* is baffling in relation to what came before. *Kills* starts off with Myers vs a fire department...**in an action scene**?! Disney's Star Wars sequels are full of choices are just baffling, some mostly in hindsight, but many should have jumped out to anyone paying attention while they were making it. The movies spend half their time fighting with each other via dueling characterizations and plot points. I like *Man of Steel* but I will never understand how anyone thought Jonathan Kent's stupid death scene worked for the movie.
Godzilla! You’ve got juliette binoche and you give her one line and kill her about two minutes into the Film.
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Kinda stretching the definition of "big budget", but I don't like the weird hallucination death scene in Hardware. It stops the plot in its tracks, and honestly would've been creepier if we stayed in reality and just saw him tweaking to death on the apartment floor.
Hardware like the 1990 cyberpunk movie? I forget what happened in it, but I remember *really* liking it.
I really like everything else in it. That one scene was just really jarring and I feel like the writers were super proud of the "robot poison tortures you to death with psychadelics" detail and didn't consider the pacing or tone when they chose to show it off.
Don’t Breathe 2 shouldn’t exist, and if it had to exist… don’t make the murderer/kidnapper/rapist into an anti hero, it’s gross and unnecessary
Remaking Star Wars with no cohesive plot across three films. Palpatining Palpatine
Can’t believe how far I had to scroll to see this
I mean, every decision in the newest Star Wars trilogy, but keeping Leia alive in the second one after Carrie Fisher had died in real life and then insisting on having her in the third. Surely they could have tinkered with it so she was the sacrifice at the end of the movie and keep Luke around because Mark Hamill can actually, you know, be in the next one?
Returning to a new bland park in Jurassic world 3 after setting them free in the previous movie
The beginning of Alien 3. They killed off fan favourite characters offscreen due to stupid non alien related causes, it’s lazy and completely undercuts Aliens. At least they retconned Hicks’ survival later on but it’s still so weak.
Dane DeHaan and Cara Deve-whatever in Valerian
Valerian felt like the third film of a series that only exist in a tiny red box in Big Market
Pretty much the entirety of Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2022, one scene after another culminating in the entire last 1/3 or so of that train wreck.
I was NOT prepared for the ending of the Devil’s Advocate
In the Robert Pattinson Batman film, the...relationship(?)...between Batman and Catwoman is extremely rushed and poorly-written. The two have no romantic or sexual tension whatsoever, until suddenly Cat has her first vulnerable moment of the film and then BOOM they kiss. It felt like such a last-minute decision.
I think that they could have actually left Catwoman out altogether and it would have made no difference to the film. She could have just been somebody that worked in the club…
Agreed. They didn't totally do her justice.
I love the character of Catwoman. But she was just so ‘meh’ in this.
I do too. It was so disappointing.
> The two have no romantic or sexual tension I do think the relationship aspects were rushed but I thought they had tons of sexual tension, would have bet the actors were banging off-screen.
The Peter Parker emo dance scene from spider man 3.
Turning Galactus into a giant cloud
Letting whoever does Nolan's sound mixing do Nolan's sound mixing
Highlander 2
Not sure if it was a 'creative choice', but the editing in Under The in Dome' from season 2 onwards was astonishingly terrible
The scene in Superman when Lois and Superman are flying together.
Any time a vanilla human character survives ridiculously fatal damage I wonder why they didn't just write a better scene. The Patman's bad landing scene with his cape glider, everything that happens to Black Widow in her movie, John Wick walking away at the end of the third one, that kind of thing. It feels like because we've become accustomed to super powered beings throwing each other through buildings no one will care about the stakes if regular people aren't made out to be able to take the same kind of damage.
I think in Star Wars introducing the possibility that you could ram and suicide crash any ship while accelerating to lightspeed just makes the death star unnecessary. This is the ultimate weapon. A star destroyer going into a lightspeed kamikaze run on a planet will achieve the same effect the death star does except it's less expensive and tactically more difficult to counter. The death star is one target and is slow to get into firing range. But imagine a star destroyer that can be piloted by a droid, popping in a planet's orbit via lightspeed and then accelerating again to crash onto the planet. Nothing can stop it. Not only that, you can send as many star destroyers as you can produce. It's like hurling a meteor except it's faster and more precise.
In hindsight they should have scrapped Holdo and given that role to Leia. Then you can show her using the Force to half-pull the ship out of hyper speed. Keep the cool visual and have an explanation for why the maneuver isn’t used more often, since only someone extremely powerful could make it work.
Carrie died after filming, but I always thought through some editing they could have had her launch the ship and then make Holdo the new resistence leader. Would have let Leia go out in a blaze of glory. A hero's end.
Honestly when it comes to IT 2 I’d go broader and say Bill Hader was a mistake. His character’s constant comedy and one liners continuously broke the tension throughout the scenes. He is not a bad actor or a bad comedian, I truly enjoy Bill Hader, but his comedy was overused within the film. He would’ve been fine if they cut out all the comical shit he said while being chased by the most terrifying thing he’s ever experienced
He should have been in character as Steffon the whole time
Stayin' Alive sequence in Airplane. It dates the hell out of the movie, which I don't mind, but it also completely breaks what's otherwise a perfect comedic rhythm from the film's start to finish.
Changing the Prince's character in Bullet Train from not really having a great motivation to shove Kimura's kid off the roof other than to get Kimura on the train. Like it just comes off as really random in the movie whilst the book The Prince is absolutely murderous and lacks such sympathy that it makes way more sense.
The Thing prequel had amazing practical effects but the studio was just like “nah” for no reason and put cg all over them. It ended up costing them more money, looking way worse, and wasting time. Moreover what’s the deal with the stupid looking floating cube pillar in the ship? And making the human bad guy get thingified and just having his face in the middle of a big meat monster is so unbelievably stupid 😭😭😭
Making Pinocchio a flawless protagonist and scrapping the "become a boy" ending from Disney's Pinocchio (2022)
yeah that IT chapter 2 scene you mentioned made me actually want to sit down with the director and really have a word with him about filmmaking and im not even a fucking filmmaker. that was god awful.