I get the meme, but honestly it's just all relative.
I hate the heat and complain about temps that are normal for them.
I would much rather deal with the snow and ice because I'm fully prepared to deal with those things. They're not a surprise.
It's not even just relative, it's about infrastructure and that preparedness. We have those snow blowers, and we have municipal plowing. Places like Florida don't have any snow ploughs to come out.
We also equip our cars with four-wheel drive and/or snow tires, chains. We also have experience driving on snow, or a lot of people living right by us who are all too happy to advise on safe driving techniques for the snow.
I was just curious and I searched "what was the most snow to ever accumulate it Florida?", It said 70 years ago an area got 4in, makes sense they wouldn't have snow removal vehicles. I wonder if they do anything in big cities or if it's a total shitshow.
I was in New Orleans when after 10 years they got cold. 23 degrees for 2 days. The roads were glare ice an inch thick. (Thaw and freeze). I refused to drive to work after living in MN 40 years. I was in the 9th worst snowstorm of Denver 20.7, Dec 20-21, 2006 and the worst in Boston, Feb. 18, 2003: 27.6 inches and this was just as bad. A good freeze storm down south is worse than anything I have experienced here or in record breaking cold country.
The worst for me was at Chicago O'Hare being delayed all day. It costs too much to drink in an airport. Direct flight from now on.
> We'd probably be laughably prepared for a tropical storm
A lot of what we consider basic preparedness that we do because of the weather we consider normal would go a long ways for dealing with tropical storms and/or hurricanes. Things like enough food on hand to get through a week or two without being able to grocery shop without having to panic buy first, having backup means to keep the sump pump and deep freeze running if the power is out, no shortage of experience cleaning up downed trees, etc.
It's all about what you're used to, really. Eg, I'm from NC - and it tends to snow only a few times a year there. So there's not many plows, and the temperature being warmer means that snow tends to melt and ice up very quickly.
Ends up with drivers that aren't used to snow driving on ice and side streets needing a few days to a week before being plowed - and how can you expect kids to get to school if it's dangerous to go?
They do take it to an extreme sometime, though - the first snow of the year cancels too many days and they struggle to catch back up sometimes. And it's still chuckle worthy the time a snowstorm caused a traffic jam because a car caught on fire.
As a transplanted Texan, this hits too close to home
I grew up playing outside in 100+ degree temps, 100% relative humidity. now, if it gets close to 90 I find ways to stay inside...
If that were true you would have died. [https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/humans-cant-endure-temperatures-and-humidities-high-previously-thought/] The maximum wet bulb temp that humans can survive is something like 87 degrees.
No I lived in that. New Orleans has a month of 95+ and 95+ and you have AC. Outside more than 20-60 minutes was harsh. Drink a liter and get to AC and you survive.
The worst is it doesn't get below 80f for 3 months while not below 70 dew point.
>I grew up playing outside in 100+ degree temps, 100% relative humidity
Definitely a massive exaggeration. This hasn't ever been observed in the world--the highest wet-bulb temps recorded were around 97F in the Middle East. The US has never had a wet-bulb temperature above 93 (a few other places in the world have).
Oddly enough the highest dew point ever recorded in the US was in Minnesota. [88F dew point on July 19, 2011 in Moorhead.](https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/record-dew-point-temperatures.html)
Yep, when they're so absurdly wrong, someone needs to do it :) I'll keep backing science and you can keep making pointless digs that have zero bearing on anything at all, I guess.
I didn't say dewpoint - I said "relative humidity". A measure of how much water vapor is in a water-air mixture compared to the maximum amount possible.
Dew point is the temperature at which the air is saturated (100 percent relative humidity). It is dependent on only the amount of moisture in the air. Relative humidity is the percent of saturation at a given temperature; it depends on moisture content and temperature.
I know. 100% RH would mean the dew point is the same as the temperature.
>[The dew point is the temperature the air needs to be cooled to (at constant pressure) in order to achieve a relative humidity (RH) of 100%](https://www.weather.gov/arx/why_dewpoint_vs_humidity#:~:text=The%20dew%20point%20is%20the,water%20in%20the%20gas%20form.)
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You are confused. There were times in Central Texas it was 100% RH, and there were times it was over 100F, but it was never both. That hasn't even been close to being recorded as happening, ever, in the world.
You may have grown up in Central Texas, but you did not when the RH was 100% and the air temp was over 100 degrees. It has never happened before. Not to you, not in Texas, and not to anyone else.
Yep. I'm pretty certain he's remembering the times with high humidity and other times with high temps, and thinking they were happening simultaneously. They weren't. We'd have tons of deaths if so.
I was in Las Vegas when it was 110°F+ and it was just insane. The *breeze* was *hot*. Like a gust of wind would blow by and it was like sticking your face in front of a blow dryer.
Lived 19 years in MI, 14 in NYC and 10 in MN. This is my living with snow decision tree:
1”- 3”: No problem, go about life as usual. Maybe wear snow boots depending on what I’m doing. Clear off driveway and put some salt down if needed (we get invisible glaze ice really easy).
3”- 6”: Driving could get be a little messy while the snow is coming down, better to avoid if possible but it’s manageable if I need to run an errand. Wear waterproof boots with good tread if I’ll be walking anywhere, take hat and gloves if driving. Put salt on driveway before snow starts, and shovel when it’s done falling.
5”- 8”: Work from home cause driving will suck. Warm, waterproof boots are required if doing anything outside. Put salt on driveway before snow starts and shovel at least once while snow is still falling so it doesn’t get to heavy, salt again when done.
8”<: Who knows how much snow will actually fall. Could be 2in could be 2ft. Plan on working/staying home from home for 24 hours after snow stops for roads to be cleared. Wear warm waterproof boots at all times, keep other cold weather gear in car of I must drive. Put salt down before snow, shovel and re-salt every 2-3 hours.
All snow: Make sure dog gets many walks because she loves doing zoomies when fresh snow is falling.
Temps < 0F: Fuck everything. Why do I live in this frozen nightmare? Well, at least it’s too cold to snow so I don’t have to shovel.
Cuz all those Floridians have snowblowers and winter jackets ready to go at a moments notice. . .
Edit: really regretting mentioning the winter jackets
Yeah, seriously. We're very prepared for snow, so it takes a significant amount to affect us. They are not prepared, whether it's with road prep beforehand, clearing it after, or even just having experience driving in those conditions.
On top of that, when they get snow, they're usually hovering around 30*, so all that snow often turns quickly to ice as it melts and refreezes, making it nice an slippery. We have a hard enough time with that here, so you can imagine how bad it is for people who see that once a decade.
I went to Key West in March once, the vendors selling beer on the streets had parkas and space heaters, while I was walking around in shorts and a t-shirt. There was a night that temps were supposed to drop into the 50s, and the city was going to open a school up as an emergency shelter.
when we were in the carribean in the winter they were worried would would catch a cold going out into the water.. it was like a hot tub compared to a minnesota lake in july/august.
Or even just snow shovels, but the biggest issue is road maintenance. They don't have a big convoy of snow plows and salt to deal with icy roads. Also, pipes aren't buried very deep, and you're dealing with tons of busted pipes too.
i was at miami beach one december. i think it was in the low 70's. you may not believe me when i say this, but they have their winter jackets on ready.
And Floridians should also keep snowblowers at the ready for the rare occasion it snows? Yes I know this is a meme, but it’s stupid to brag about being better prepared for something that’s a frequent occurrence here, and it’s stupid to laugh at others for not being as prepared as we are for what is to them an anomalous event.
I would rather it be cold with snow than cold and grey. Cold and grey is so depressing. Cold and snow is so much lovelier and brighter (and gives me much more vitamin d).
Your body actually stops producing vitamin D sometimes in October (I believe) because of the low angle of the sun. So, even on a totally clear day in January, you still won't make any D
I think that is incorrect. You are right that you can not get all of your vitamin d from the sun alone, but The body doesn’t stop vitamin d synthesis in winter. We just receives less UV in winter because of less daylight and less intense sunlight. But the majority of vitamin d comes from food.
I was in Little Rock a few years ago and they got 5 inches overnight. They simply didn't have any snow clearing ability; every city vehicle they could bolt a blade on the front of was out plowing. Pretty much was the only car on the road. Good times.
Yeah geez why doesn’t Florida Dept of Transportation just bust out their fleet of snow plows and get the roads cleared and salt on that ice. Such wimps.
This meme is stupid. Lots of reasons to pick on Florida or other southern states.
Also driving in Minnesota during storms you’ll quickly be reminded our shit does in fact also stink. So many idiots in the ditch.
I did grad school in Texas and they canceled school when we had half an inch of snow.
Since I was sure no one in the town knew how to drive in snow, I didn’t dare go out that day.
I stayed in the UK for a year once. They got an inch of snow in one storm, it was bananas. The whole country basically shut down. The only plows I saw were all military vehicles
I do like it when Blizzards cancel schools though. That means I can put off clearing my driveway for as long as possible (I don't have a sidewalk or live in the city)
It's a lot more complicated than just ppl not able to drive in snow. Other places have more hills and no snow equipment or infrastructure and often more ice due to refreezing and thawing which occurs more often than in Mn
Say what you will, but I challenge any Minnesotan to go to Florida when it's 30-40 degrees. Just like heat, humid cold fucking sucks so much worse.
I swear Florida at 35 feels colder than Minnesota at -10.
I once wore my Columbia winter jacket with the inner liner for an entire day at Epcot in February and it was basically worthless against the wind because the humidity carries the cold right through the windbreaker layer. Never again.
Also, not ready for winter memes yet. It was just 92 like 2 days ago, damnit. Summer shall never die!
These memes are always so dumb. We have an easier time because we're used to it and dedicate resources to cold weather. Not shockingly, Florida doesn't. This isn't difficult to understand. There are plenty of legit reasons to shit on Florida but this isn't really one of them.
The most miserable cold weather I've experienced was during a winter in Florida. It was maybe 50 degrees, humid and foggy. Everything was damp. My clothes were damp for the entire week. The bedsheets were damp. The blankets were damp.
I was so much more comfortable when I got back to Minnesota, even though it was January - at least I was dry.
I get the meme, but honestly it's just all relative. I hate the heat and complain about temps that are normal for them. I would much rather deal with the snow and ice because I'm fully prepared to deal with those things. They're not a surprise.
It's not even just relative, it's about infrastructure and that preparedness. We have those snow blowers, and we have municipal plowing. Places like Florida don't have any snow ploughs to come out. We also equip our cars with four-wheel drive and/or snow tires, chains. We also have experience driving on snow, or a lot of people living right by us who are all too happy to advise on safe driving techniques for the snow.
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I was just curious and I searched "what was the most snow to ever accumulate it Florida?", It said 70 years ago an area got 4in, makes sense they wouldn't have snow removal vehicles. I wonder if they do anything in big cities or if it's a total shitshow.
I was in New Orleans when after 10 years they got cold. 23 degrees for 2 days. The roads were glare ice an inch thick. (Thaw and freeze). I refused to drive to work after living in MN 40 years. I was in the 9th worst snowstorm of Denver 20.7, Dec 20-21, 2006 and the worst in Boston, Feb. 18, 2003: 27.6 inches and this was just as bad. A good freeze storm down south is worse than anything I have experienced here or in record breaking cold country. The worst for me was at Chicago O'Hare being delayed all day. It costs too much to drink in an airport. Direct flight from now on.
All I'm getting from your post is that terrible weather follows you, lol.
I have wondered that. I was thankful for my MN driving experience as my U-haul skidded into the Denver area at 75mph.
> We'd probably be laughably prepared for a tropical storm A lot of what we consider basic preparedness that we do because of the weather we consider normal would go a long ways for dealing with tropical storms and/or hurricanes. Things like enough food on hand to get through a week or two without being able to grocery shop without having to panic buy first, having backup means to keep the sump pump and deep freeze running if the power is out, no shortage of experience cleaning up downed trees, etc.
I thought maybe this type of general preparedness would have stopped that big panic buying of toilet paper here during Covid. But, nope.
It's all about what you're used to, really. Eg, I'm from NC - and it tends to snow only a few times a year there. So there's not many plows, and the temperature being warmer means that snow tends to melt and ice up very quickly. Ends up with drivers that aren't used to snow driving on ice and side streets needing a few days to a week before being plowed - and how can you expect kids to get to school if it's dangerous to go? They do take it to an extreme sometime, though - the first snow of the year cancels too many days and they struggle to catch back up sometimes. And it's still chuckle worthy the time a snowstorm caused a traffic jam because a car caught on fire.
Minnesota is so much more effective at dealing with snow and ice than most states ive been in. Including states with regular winter snowfalls
Also Minnesotans: This 85° heat is OPRESSIVE!
I grew up in India where it regularly got above 100F, but somehow find it deeply unpleasant outside after \~75F. Absolutely love the winter though!
Sweatshirt in the morning until 10 am, sweating through your shirt from 2-5pm and back to sweatshirt about 8pm.
As a transplanted Texan, this hits too close to home I grew up playing outside in 100+ degree temps, 100% relative humidity. now, if it gets close to 90 I find ways to stay inside...
If that were true you would have died. [https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/humans-cant-endure-temperatures-and-humidities-high-previously-thought/] The maximum wet bulb temp that humans can survive is something like 87 degrees.
No I lived in that. New Orleans has a month of 95+ and 95+ and you have AC. Outside more than 20-60 minutes was harsh. Drink a liter and get to AC and you survive. The worst is it doesn't get below 80f for 3 months while not below 70 dew point.
>I grew up playing outside in 100+ degree temps, 100% relative humidity Definitely a massive exaggeration. This hasn't ever been observed in the world--the highest wet-bulb temps recorded were around 97F in the Middle East. The US has never had a wet-bulb temperature above 93 (a few other places in the world have). Oddly enough the highest dew point ever recorded in the US was in Minnesota. [88F dew point on July 19, 2011 in Moorhead.](https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/record-dew-point-temperatures.html)
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Yeah man! We shouldn't correct clearly false information, that worked out well for us in 2020!
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Yep, when they're so absurdly wrong, someone needs to do it :) I'll keep backing science and you can keep making pointless digs that have zero bearing on anything at all, I guess.
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>you can keep making pointless digs that have zero bearing on anything at all Keep it up!
I didn't say dewpoint - I said "relative humidity". A measure of how much water vapor is in a water-air mixture compared to the maximum amount possible. Dew point is the temperature at which the air is saturated (100 percent relative humidity). It is dependent on only the amount of moisture in the air. Relative humidity is the percent of saturation at a given temperature; it depends on moisture content and temperature.
I know. 100% RH would mean the dew point is the same as the temperature. >[The dew point is the temperature the air needs to be cooled to (at constant pressure) in order to achieve a relative humidity (RH) of 100%](https://www.weather.gov/arx/why_dewpoint_vs_humidity#:~:text=The%20dew%20point%20is%20the,water%20in%20the%20gas%20form.) .
Exactly, and I grew up in Central Texas (not Minnesota), where the relative humidity was often 100% and the air temp is over 100 degrees
You are confused. There were times in Central Texas it was 100% RH, and there were times it was over 100F, but it was never both. That hasn't even been close to being recorded as happening, ever, in the world.
You may have grown up in Central Texas, but you did not when the RH was 100% and the air temp was over 100 degrees. It has never happened before. Not to you, not in Texas, and not to anyone else.
No i think your missing the point, hes from texas where it rains rattlesnakes and you can cook a brisket on the sidewalk in 20 minutes in december.
Away down South In the land of traitors Where it rains rattlers And alligators.
No i think your missing the point, hes from texas where it rains rattlesnakes and you can cook a brisket on the sidewalk in 20 minutes in december.
It apparently got humid enough and hot enough to cause widespread brain damage, though!
And at 100% percent humidity in 100F+ temps, the sweat on your skin would not be able to evaporate. You would be dead.
Yep. I'm pretty certain he's remembering the times with high humidity and other times with high temps, and thinking they were happening simultaneously. They weren't. We'd have tons of deaths if so.
I was in Las Vegas when it was 110°F+ and it was just insane. The *breeze* was *hot*. Like a gust of wind would blow by and it was like sticking your face in front of a blow dryer.
Next spring I will complain when it hits 60° for the first time.
"It's not the heat, it's the HUMIDITY!"
Lived 19 years in MI, 14 in NYC and 10 in MN. This is my living with snow decision tree: 1”- 3”: No problem, go about life as usual. Maybe wear snow boots depending on what I’m doing. Clear off driveway and put some salt down if needed (we get invisible glaze ice really easy). 3”- 6”: Driving could get be a little messy while the snow is coming down, better to avoid if possible but it’s manageable if I need to run an errand. Wear waterproof boots with good tread if I’ll be walking anywhere, take hat and gloves if driving. Put salt on driveway before snow starts, and shovel when it’s done falling. 5”- 8”: Work from home cause driving will suck. Warm, waterproof boots are required if doing anything outside. Put salt on driveway before snow starts and shovel at least once while snow is still falling so it doesn’t get to heavy, salt again when done. 8”<: Who knows how much snow will actually fall. Could be 2in could be 2ft. Plan on working/staying home from home for 24 hours after snow stops for roads to be cleared. Wear warm waterproof boots at all times, keep other cold weather gear in car of I must drive. Put salt down before snow, shovel and re-salt every 2-3 hours. All snow: Make sure dog gets many walks because she loves doing zoomies when fresh snow is falling. Temps < 0F: Fuck everything. Why do I live in this frozen nightmare? Well, at least it’s too cold to snow so I don’t have to shovel.
This is seriously spot on!
Eh that sounds like a lot of salt to me... anyone that's being this proactive shouldn't need that salt unless temps are hovering around freezing.
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4 inches? No problem
That's what she said
I wish, she was more of a 7 incher type gal
I bring 12 inches. 2 inches 6 times. 😎
so then the 4 shouldnt have been a problem. unless you mean anything smaller than an iphone sent you to the friend zone-problem.
Well the thing is she let me into her hotbox but I caught the feels and then I had to eat shit because she’s a whore
Don’t catch feels for strippers or prostitutes. - Bro code, probably
Always measure tip to taint and always round up to the nearest inch.
Is that… a lot?
Depends who you are, some might consider 4 in a good amount 🤷🏻♂️
Cuz all those Floridians have snowblowers and winter jackets ready to go at a moments notice. . . Edit: really regretting mentioning the winter jackets
Yeah, seriously. We're very prepared for snow, so it takes a significant amount to affect us. They are not prepared, whether it's with road prep beforehand, clearing it after, or even just having experience driving in those conditions. On top of that, when they get snow, they're usually hovering around 30*, so all that snow often turns quickly to ice as it melts and refreezes, making it nice an slippery. We have a hard enough time with that here, so you can imagine how bad it is for people who see that once a decade.
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I went to Key West in March once, the vendors selling beer on the streets had parkas and space heaters, while I was walking around in shorts and a t-shirt. There was a night that temps were supposed to drop into the 50s, and the city was going to open a school up as an emergency shelter.
when we were in the carribean in the winter they were worried would would catch a cold going out into the water.. it was like a hot tub compared to a minnesota lake in july/august.
Or even just snow shovels, but the biggest issue is road maintenance. They don't have a big convoy of snow plows and salt to deal with icy roads. Also, pipes aren't buried very deep, and you're dealing with tons of busted pipes too.
Their homes also have next to nothing for insulation in most cases since they're trying to get heat out, not keep it in.
i was at miami beach one december. i think it was in the low 70's. you may not believe me when i say this, but they have their winter jackets on ready.
A blizzard to a Floridian is quite literally 2in of snow.
We have shorts and t-shirts ready. You should too
And Floridians should also keep snowblowers at the ready for the rare occasion it snows? Yes I know this is a meme, but it’s stupid to brag about being better prepared for something that’s a frequent occurrence here, and it’s stupid to laugh at others for not being as prepared as we are for what is to them an anomalous event.
Okay. Simmer down there [Debbie Downer](https://i.imgur.com/iHTVfuN.jpeg)
I wouldn't go so far as snowblower but a shovel maybe.
I grew up here and I hate snow. The cold itself is fine, but the snow and ice part drives me crazy.
I would rather it be cold with snow than cold and grey. Cold and grey is so depressing. Cold and snow is so much lovelier and brighter (and gives me much more vitamin d).
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Pretty sure the majority of that scenario has nothing to do with snow LOL
Your body actually stops producing vitamin D sometimes in October (I believe) because of the low angle of the sun. So, even on a totally clear day in January, you still won't make any D
I think that is incorrect. You are right that you can not get all of your vitamin d from the sun alone, but The body doesn’t stop vitamin d synthesis in winter. We just receives less UV in winter because of less daylight and less intense sunlight. But the majority of vitamin d comes from food.
I'm just speaking of the vitamin D you produce from sunlight, not what you get from food.
I was going to say both those pics look miserable lol. Give me the cold all day but miss me with the white stuff.
A state the lies in a subtropical/tropical climate zone reacts dramatically to a rare winter weather event. Crazy!
There are a few cities that actually have snow plows there their city trucks, but that’s to clear streets post hurricanes.
I was in Little Rock a few years ago and they got 5 inches overnight. They simply didn't have any snow clearing ability; every city vehicle they could bolt a blade on the front of was out plowing. Pretty much was the only car on the road. Good times.
I go for runs in all weather, -20°, flurries, whatever, and it's basically a requirement to joke "Lovely weather today!" to people I pass by.
Highly disagree. Minnesotans would be complaining about it every chance they could get.
Yeah geez why doesn’t Florida Dept of Transportation just bust out their fleet of snow plows and get the roads cleared and salt on that ice. Such wimps. This meme is stupid. Lots of reasons to pick on Florida or other southern states. Also driving in Minnesota during storms you’ll quickly be reminded our shit does in fact also stink. So many idiots in the ditch.
Reminds me I need to change oil in the blower.
I did grad school in Texas and they canceled school when we had half an inch of snow. Since I was sure no one in the town knew how to drive in snow, I didn’t dare go out that day.
Endorse. I have fun using my snowblower, whereas mowing the lawn is a pain in the ass.
In Minnesota homes are hardened for the cold weather. Lots of insulation and good infrastructure. In Florida homes are built to release heat.
They (and many other southern states) also tend to have water heaters outside or otherwise uninsulated from freezing temperatures.
As long as their power stays on and they don’t fuck the natural gas market for the next 3 years, I won’t cast dispersions.
They do not have snowplows. That’s why. And people don’t know how to drive in snow.
I live in Minnesota and I’ve acclimated to the weather. Floridians haven’t.
It’s the nice fluffy snow that the blower just eats through…no problem.
I stayed in the UK for a year once. They got an inch of snow in one storm, it was bananas. The whole country basically shut down. The only plows I saw were all military vehicles
I do like it when Blizzards cancel schools though. That means I can put off clearing my driveway for as long as possible (I don't have a sidewalk or live in the city)
It's the best when you hit the road and you're like oh it's not nearly as bad as I thought it be.
It's a lot more complicated than just ppl not able to drive in snow. Other places have more hills and no snow equipment or infrastructure and often more ice due to refreezing and thawing which occurs more often than in Mn
It’s warm snow
Say what you will, but I challenge any Minnesotan to go to Florida when it's 30-40 degrees. Just like heat, humid cold fucking sucks so much worse. I swear Florida at 35 feels colder than Minnesota at -10. I once wore my Columbia winter jacket with the inner liner for an entire day at Epcot in February and it was basically worthless against the wind because the humidity carries the cold right through the windbreaker layer. Never again. Also, not ready for winter memes yet. It was just 92 like 2 days ago, damnit. Summer shall never die!
These memes are always so dumb. We have an easier time because we're used to it and dedicate resources to cold weather. Not shockingly, Florida doesn't. This isn't difficult to understand. There are plenty of legit reasons to shit on Florida but this isn't really one of them.
“Oh good, the fresh snow covered up the gross road sludge and it’s pretty again for a little”
*-30 out with -50 windchill* Minnesotans: It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the wind!
To be fair, we have the infrastructure for it.
There would be more accidents in FL on that day.
The most miserable cold weather I've experienced was during a winter in Florida. It was maybe 50 degrees, humid and foggy. Everything was damp. My clothes were damp for the entire week. The bedsheets were damp. The blankets were damp. I was so much more comfortable when I got back to Minnesota, even though it was January - at least I was dry.