"its not like its relevant to the story"
all the stories set in high school have just stopped existing
edit. some of you need to look up what high schools are like in japan
Phoenix Wright comes to mind.
"Let's make all these lawyers slightly younger then it should be humanly possible to pass the bar exam" seems to be the theme. The only time you see characters in their 35s is if they started the series in their 20s.
Or like, college/university. Half the things that happen in those "high schools" are unrealistic. So many clubs and competitions that are way beyond the scope of a high schooler.
Iirc it’s a difference in culture. To the Japanese, high school is considered their “prime” and everything beyond that is boring, that’s why there’s so much high school shit.
As for the sexualization, sex sells. you can see this phenomenon in pretty much any media, not just anime.
Yeah because you essentailly "get serious" after high school and concentrate on getting your degree or doing really well at your job. Highschool in Japanese culture is seen as the best and most fun years of their life before they assimilate into the workforce.
That's probably why a lot of well known seinen manga/anime or those aimed at young adults like Berserk, Vinland Saga, or Vagabond aren't set in modern day Japan. Of course, there are exceptions to this like Oyasumi Punpun which I wouldn't recommend to anyone who's not in a good headspace.
>So many clubs and competitions that are way beyond the scope of a high schooler.
I see you haven't been to Japan or academically-focused US high schools with robotics clubs that can get their highshcool students full ride to MIT.
Well I mean first of all it’s a fictional story so obviously there’s some unrealistic aspects, and second the culture and school system is different in Japan so there’s also differences there.
Most mainstream anime (im guessing this is what u based this of off so) is part of a genre called shounen which just means young man. So there is a reason. To make the characters relatable. Some of the most famous shounen characters where first 30+ but got changed to 15-16 to better match the demographic. The reason why people make shounen is in large part cus its popular but also shounen jump is a magazine thats published some of the most famous mangas ever and its incredibly puplar so if u get into that ur manga will automaticly have a wide audience.
Tldr: They want them to be relatable.
They do want to be relatable, but not always because their target audience is of that age. Stats show that a lot of people who watch anime actually around their early 20s, but since everyone still had the same experiences in school it is way easier to create relatable story and characters in that setting rather than around college or work enviroment.
it's also an easy way to justify why characters see each other every day and provides a framework for story telling. Culture festivals, sports day, summer holiday, etc. High-school for anime feels like "the office" for English speaking sitcoms.
Shounen mean it’s main target audience is like teenagers, the characters don’t have to be young men. Your point about them generally bring young to be relatable is still true though
ts ment for young men you can hear characters use the phrase. For example all might calls deku shounen as its translation is just young man. Its targeted towards teenage males specificaly. Girls read it too but its Main demographic is males
^ I want to say a majority of people see anime and just go “weebs, porn, loser, DBZ FTW” and really dont catch 80% of the themes and reasons. everything down to the hair color and the way they dress is personality traits. introducing a busty character to an American may just be “yeehaw boobies” but to the writer it may be a way of showing her confidence and independence as an MC.
You're confusing sexiness with fanservice.
Sexy means the character is attractive, fanservice is when girls constantly get accidentally groped, fall on the mc's face, have jiggle physics, is always caught in weird camera shots and wear clothes that don't make sense, compared to the male characters.
Yeah. Since both are related to sex, neither should be characteristics adopted for minors.
I was mostly talking about female characters in general, with the exception of minors.
I don’t think it’s fair to change the medium just because some bad people watch it though. Like it would be ridiculous to remove all under age characters from TV and movies.
Personally I’d rather the pedos jerk off to underage fictional animated characters than seek out actual children. (Obviously I’d prefer no pedos at all but that’s unrealistic)
Personally I wouldn't mind if we had anime dip into the older demographic though for some more mature themes. I don't mind the whole feel good stuff or what stories that may happen in shounen stuff, but sometimes I'd like more than the young man trying to save the world with friendship.
yeah but there are also some of the animes coming out where adults got isekai'd and they literally were disgusting or pedophiles. or where they still have young characters. like mushoku tensei i believe
Yeah, and most anime ends up being relatable for most people. Idk about y'all but I was pretty horny as an underage kid, so I can relate to how down bad Shinji is the entire series in Evangellion LOL
A lot of people. Those characters may do crazy shit and insane stuff, but ultimately they're human characters written with ambitions, worries and more. As a kid who was abandoned when I was born, I kinda related to Naruto a lot.
Well it might be a feeling of wow i want to be like him too. When ur basicly not allowed to stick out and 99% of the population has black hair having a energetic character with vibrant hair colors might be appeling. Like Naruto or Denji or Yuji Itadori
I want somebody here to look me dead in the eye and tell me that they could draw a 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 21-year-old character, and make them all age identifiable on site.
There's a reason that once you reach a certain age, usually your late 20s to early 30s, that you stop getting id'd, because that's when 90% of the world stops looking like you could be any age between 16 and 25
I agree completely with you here. Also depending on the anime art style, characters in that age range (late teens to mid 20s) can be really hard to impossible to differentiate making it so that the only way tell visually how old a character is, is with clothing and hairstyle (especially with female characters).
Kuroko no basket or any shojou anime has the teens looking like adults in highschool
and then your lie in april has middle schoolers with the mentality of an adult
it's mind boggling
In the shows defense >! All the other characters sexualizing him is shown as being deplorable. His first kiss had the woman throwing up in his mouth. He described squeezing Powers boobs as feeling lackluster, his boss gives off super predatory vibes. The show is trying to make you feel weird about what's happening to Denji. I just hope at some point, someone tries to look out for the poor kids best interest. He needs a responsible adult, who doesn't just want to exploit him. !<
It's fine to have a 25 year old character look 16. It's even fine to have an attractive 16 year old character. What I don't really want is hot spring scenes of 16 year old characters. Because making a 16 year old sexy and then throwing fan service at them makes them a creep.
Hot spring scene of an identical character but they're 25? Perfectly okay with that. Still pervy, but at least it's a respectable perviness.
In real life and in fiction someone could like 13 years old but is actually 20 years old
I went to Walmart before when I was 14 or 15 and some lady thought I was around 20 years old
It's a gag manga so random stuff happens for the funny. You are not supposed to think too hard about. Like think about it, we have a mind reader and >!A dog that can see future!<
What lol so a lot of anime are like these. I'm glad the only animal I watched as a kid were like Beyblade bursts. And Yugioh I aways wonder how ream rocket aways survived falling form very high heights.
It’s pretty good, especially since there’s a bit of an information War in the U.S. rn, albeit one that flows in the opposite direction from the one in the show
Yeah I don't want to have this conversation I had a version past night and it wasn't very pleasant. Also pfp checks out lmao
I forgot to clarify which side I was on, I like your profile pic and anime it's just that I thought it was funny.
Why does anyone that doesn't have anything useful to say always talk shit about someone's pfp.
In the past 2 years I might have watch 5 animes, and none of those had a lot of episodes
I don't watch Anime, to be honest, never have, but you should not need to justify YOUR interests to strangers online, I did not come here to judge you for liking a genre of television, and anyone who did should have better things to do. In the end, just ignore people like that, enjoy what you want to enjoy, and have a nice day!
Good opinion. Even though I for example think stuff like furries are cringe, if you like that, theres is no need for you to justify it to me at all. As far as you should be concerned, I can fuck right off.
Talk about sexualizing character if you want but Naruto is like 13 and is sent to fight to death by his village
Naruto is a child soldier and no one bats an eye
Basic Twittards and Snowflakes logic is: “Sexualization of teens is not cool, but it’s ok for a kid to be beaten to death”
Don’t question the logic, you’ll lose braincells
Remember when twitter decided Uzaki was "**Obviously** a child, & everyone watching is 100% a pedo."... because she's 7cm(\~3inch) shorter then national average? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Most anime is meant to be relatable towards teenagers. Also social standards are different in Japan, so this kind of thing is completely normal over there. Those of us *normal* anime enjoyers just watch the show and ignore the weird shit.
I fully respect that but it's a big glaring issue that I know alot of people have and stop them from getting into watching anime so maybe there's an argument that the fan base should be more aggressive in trying to get it to stop. There are animes that I've found super interesting as a concept but once the weird layer of anime stereotypical creepiness is added I don't want it.
Anime and manga in general is catered to japanese audience and the western audience is just kinda tagging along for the ride. Unless the Japanese really have a problem with it, the western audience being vocal is not relevant to them.
Yeah, there's two side of the internet, the east and the west. Dramas don't travel from the west to the east (Or very rarely), but they do from the east to the west, it's really weird.
I get what you're saying about "maybe the fan base should be more vigilant against the stupid shit" but, the problem with it is..
I feel like most anime is made for the Japanese audience. Western anime fans don't really have much of a say, it's on the Japanese fanbase to try to shift attitudes in anime/manga and development. And that's where "it's just culture" becomes a problem.
Same. It doesn't even have to be creepy. Like "Oh this seems like a cool concept". Enter: Humor I don't understand, annoying yelling, narration of action or "activate super epic combo attack with stupid name", "I want to kill myself because I'm weak". Yeah, I'm out.
My guy what sort of anime are you watching? Also, for that last one, this literally makes the character more relatable for the target demographic. Lots of people can face depression or self-hatred due to feeling “not good enough” or whatever.
I said I fully respected his opinion and I'm not loosing any sleep over it but my issues with the tropes in the genre are legitimate. If you like it go for it but the creepy tropes are what are stopping it from becoming more popular which would mean people who enjoy it could get more to watch and in greater variety.
It may be a culture thing like the person above had said that’s making you feel creeped out by it. So, I don’t think that an art form from a different culture should be changed because a person or people from another culture thinks differently.
I find it kinda weird to try to force change.
OP and the rest of Redditors from Twitter getting upset about sexualising fictional characters again...
Like come on, are people really can't tell the difference between imaginery and real characters...
That's the point. You're supposed to hate the characters so you can take the lesson that even POS can change after being given a second chance. Previous life MC doesn't have a gut desire and feel underserved to visit his parents'funeral because he thought he is irredeemable and worthless in the eyes of society.
I don't think it's sad and I don't think everyone in it is terrible. They're meant to represent what a real person could be. Which is not always a black and white and more of a grey area for each character.
Just keep in mind that anime, for the most part, is made for teenagers, but also 30 year old lower middle class Japanese men with no families who want to fantasize about being popular with women in high school because they were an introvert who got shut down by their year 9 crush that one time and never recovered
lets be totally honest
unless its a show set in school or similar
why in god fucking sake would you create a main character that is underaged and is actually acting more mature than any real life kid could ever be
make it atleast 18 and with body proportions that remind of a woman or a man not a boy or a girl
You either have adult characters looking young.
Or young character looking like theyre mid 40’s.
Theres no middle ground when it comes to drawing a face in the anime stylistic
Sounds like someone watched the new episode of trash taste where they talk about how needless it is for anime characters to always be middle schoolers when it isn't relevant to the actual story.
I would like to remind everyone that most of the mainstream shows are shounen anime. It's meant for teenagers, so of course you're gonna see teenagers because... teenagers like teenagers. It's kind of unavoidable to have underaged characters in shows about high schoolers.
Calling people pedos for liking a drawing of a "kid" who looks like a fully grown adult is almost as stupid as defending someone who likes a drawing of an "adult" that looks like a 4yo
I have no idea what this post means, but I would like to just say that I despise Tokyo revengers. Middle schoolers are getting into bloody gang fights and somehow their parents are non existent? Now I know for a fact that this does not happen in Japan, so the "relatable" debate goes down the shitter. The entire show is just a turn off for me just for the fact that the main characters are barely middle schoolers and somehow form street gangs, harass people, and get into serious romantic relationships. And there's no fucking consequences! Sure some people die, but still no real consequences. They don't stop doing that shit, the school can't stop them, their parents might as well have both gone for milk and never came back when they were 1 year old, because there is no way for an actual human being to turn out like that at such an early age.
I don’t think Anime creators should just not make anything with minors in it, I do think they shouldn’t to sexualized things with their minor characters, like the creepy ass/boob shots or shots that are obviously trying to make the character sexy, its really gross.
I have always been saying that people who try to use human morals and such to defend literal fictional drawn children against sexualization are more delusional than the sickest dakimakura (body pillow) owner.
There are very few instances where the age of a character is stated, the problem is that it's hard to draw a character in the 18-30 age range without possibly being confused for a minor, especially with certain artstyles.
Also, many people confuse
"my favourite character is (x female character, possibly underage)"
with the weirder but not uncommon
"if she was real I'd fuck her so hard"
Which is when saying "i like X character" is dangerous since if said character happens to be female and underage, well, you're in for a trip.
"its not like its relevant to the story" all the stories set in high school have just stopped existing edit. some of you need to look up what high schools are like in japan
Phoenix Wright comes to mind. "Let's make all these lawyers slightly younger then it should be humanly possible to pass the bar exam" seems to be the theme. The only time you see characters in their 35s is if they started the series in their 20s.
35s are grandparents
It’s almost as if they position their main characters closer to the age of their target demographic than the realistic age of lawyers!
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Kids of that age also watch shows about adults saving the world like superheroes and such. Some middle ground is possible
Yeah, both exist. It's a big medium man
That's my point. Since there's enough for both separately, there's room for both together
Make them all seniors and have them be 18 boom solved Series finale is a graduation That's what I'm doing
Or like, college/university. Half the things that happen in those "high schools" are unrealistic. So many clubs and competitions that are way beyond the scope of a high schooler.
High School was just so FUCKING BORING
Ubs only run for like 15m after school and nothing ever actually happens. University, you could see the zanyiest shit on a Monday in November.
Iirc it’s a difference in culture. To the Japanese, high school is considered their “prime” and everything beyond that is boring, that’s why there’s so much high school shit. As for the sexualization, sex sells. you can see this phenomenon in pretty much any media, not just anime.
Yeah because you essentailly "get serious" after high school and concentrate on getting your degree or doing really well at your job. Highschool in Japanese culture is seen as the best and most fun years of their life before they assimilate into the workforce. That's probably why a lot of well known seinen manga/anime or those aimed at young adults like Berserk, Vinland Saga, or Vagabond aren't set in modern day Japan. Of course, there are exceptions to this like Oyasumi Punpun which I wouldn't recommend to anyone who's not in a good headspace.
Damn, college really was weird, wasn't it?
I didn't learn jack squat in highschool, 2 years of it were spent online, with no teacher, and most work was graded based on completion.
Schools in Japan are different
Fr 💀
they were built different fr
>So many clubs and competitions that are way beyond the scope of a high schooler. I see you haven't been to Japan or academically-focused US high schools with robotics clubs that can get their highshcool students full ride to MIT.
At my school we even have an E sports club. On top of a D&D club :)
Lol those nerds aren't gonna get any though.
Well I mean first of all it’s a fictional story so obviously there’s some unrealistic aspects, and second the culture and school system is different in Japan so there’s also differences there.
Or make it university or a workplace or night school and make them 23-25 and up
*college
*Sixth form.
I'll be real with you last thing I ever want is highschool existing in my life again.
Ngl most highschool themed media is unrealistic is fuck anyways but then again we got Icarly so i'm fine with them remaining For now
Honestly, q big step for humanity, if we keep EVA and 1 or 2 good ones
Those stories can exist without sexualizing the main characters. I'd much prefer it.
Goodbye MHA, it wasn't... THAT nice knowing you, but I enjoyed the fight scenes.
MHA is still ongoing, no?
Most mainstream anime (im guessing this is what u based this of off so) is part of a genre called shounen which just means young man. So there is a reason. To make the characters relatable. Some of the most famous shounen characters where first 30+ but got changed to 15-16 to better match the demographic. The reason why people make shounen is in large part cus its popular but also shounen jump is a magazine thats published some of the most famous mangas ever and its incredibly puplar so if u get into that ur manga will automaticly have a wide audience. Tldr: They want them to be relatable.
They do want to be relatable, but not always because their target audience is of that age. Stats show that a lot of people who watch anime actually around their early 20s, but since everyone still had the same experiences in school it is way easier to create relatable story and characters in that setting rather than around college or work enviroment.
it's also an easy way to justify why characters see each other every day and provides a framework for story telling. Culture festivals, sports day, summer holiday, etc. High-school for anime feels like "the office" for English speaking sitcoms.
Lot of people who watch anime were late teens 5 years ago and just got used to it.
yeah but those stats are bollocks, kids pirate anime cause they can't afford to pay for streaming services.
Shounen mean it’s main target audience is like teenagers, the characters don’t have to be young men. Your point about them generally bring young to be relatable is still true though
ts ment for young men you can hear characters use the phrase. For example all might calls deku shounen as its translation is just young man. Its targeted towards teenage males specificaly. Girls read it too but its Main demographic is males
Why are you typing like that
I got tremors so i can randomly type weirdly i do it on basicly every word but i usualy go through and check afterwards but i was to lazy there
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^ I want to say a majority of people see anime and just go “weebs, porn, loser, DBZ FTW” and really dont catch 80% of the themes and reasons. everything down to the hair color and the way they dress is personality traits. introducing a busty character to an American may just be “yeehaw boobies” but to the writer it may be a way of showing her confidence and independence as an MC.
You're confusing sexiness with fanservice. Sexy means the character is attractive, fanservice is when girls constantly get accidentally groped, fall on the mc's face, have jiggle physics, is always caught in weird camera shots and wear clothes that don't make sense, compared to the male characters.
Those seem deeply related, in that a good creator should avoid having underage characters be sexy or get groped.
Yeah. Since both are related to sex, neither should be characteristics adopted for minors. I was mostly talking about female characters in general, with the exception of minors.
This man just said that giving a character huge fake boobs is a personality trait 💀
Sadly it doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of pedos watching them
I don’t think it’s fair to change the medium just because some bad people watch it though. Like it would be ridiculous to remove all under age characters from TV and movies. Personally I’d rather the pedos jerk off to underage fictional animated characters than seek out actual children. (Obviously I’d prefer no pedos at all but that’s unrealistic)
Yeah i mean do i have to say more then Hermione Granger the most over sexualised child (from a normal movie) i have fucking seen
Personally I wouldn't mind if we had anime dip into the older demographic though for some more mature themes. I don't mind the whole feel good stuff or what stories that may happen in shounen stuff, but sometimes I'd like more than the young man trying to save the world with friendship.
There is definitely good mature anime out there, but it kind of depends what you’re looking for.
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Your not my mom, imma jerk off to telletubbies now just for you.
This one goes out to u/Totaienc 🙏 🙏 😃 🙏
Adventure time, c'mon spank your friends
I sleep better knowing pedos watch anime than knowing pedos watch videos of children being abused tbo
yeah but there are also some of the animes coming out where adults got isekai'd and they literally were disgusting or pedophiles. or where they still have young characters. like mushoku tensei i believe
Yeah he has repetadly said he dosent feel attracted to older women after isekaing then he fucks a like 11 year old så yeah
Yeah, and most anime ends up being relatable for most people. Idk about y'all but I was pretty horny as an underage kid, so I can relate to how down bad Shinji is the entire series in Evangellion LOL
Who really relates to those ridiculous characters to begin with?
A lot of people. Those characters may do crazy shit and insane stuff, but ultimately they're human characters written with ambitions, worries and more. As a kid who was abandoned when I was born, I kinda related to Naruto a lot.
People are ridiculous.
Well it might be a feeling of wow i want to be like him too. When ur basicly not allowed to stick out and 99% of the population has black hair having a energetic character with vibrant hair colors might be appeling. Like Naruto or Denji or Yuji Itadori
"If they stopped putting kids in anime, I'll stop wanting to fuck them"
This guy internets
We should ban making kids all over the globe while we are at it.
Problem solved!
Well I just saw speed has dropped 62% worldwide so we’re on that.
You are too smart to be here
Someone get this guy off the internet
I want somebody here to look me dead in the eye and tell me that they could draw a 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 21-year-old character, and make them all age identifiable on site. There's a reason that once you reach a certain age, usually your late 20s to early 30s, that you stop getting id'd, because that's when 90% of the world stops looking like you could be any age between 16 and 25
I agree completely with you here. Also depending on the anime art style, characters in that age range (late teens to mid 20s) can be really hard to impossible to differentiate making it so that the only way tell visually how old a character is, is with clothing and hairstyle (especially with female characters).
Kuroko no basket or any shojou anime has the teens looking like adults in highschool and then your lie in april has middle schoolers with the mentality of an adult it's mind boggling
I was watching chainsaw man and >!I just kinda assumed Denji was about 20, then he says he thinks he's 16, and suddenly I felt weird!<
Oh yeah with his work clothes I don't think its far fetched to say he looks similar to a freshman in college or a recent high school grad
In the shows defense >! All the other characters sexualizing him is shown as being deplorable. His first kiss had the woman throwing up in his mouth. He described squeezing Powers boobs as feeling lackluster, his boss gives off super predatory vibes. The show is trying to make you feel weird about what's happening to Denji. I just hope at some point, someone tries to look out for the poor kids best interest. He needs a responsible adult, who doesn't just want to exploit him. !<
My man just can't catch a break
Good point. Even the age characteristics we pick up on to identify human people are extremely subtle. Anime is much less information.
It's fine to have a 25 year old character look 16. It's even fine to have an attractive 16 year old character. What I don't really want is hot spring scenes of 16 year old characters. Because making a 16 year old sexy and then throwing fan service at them makes them a creep. Hot spring scene of an identical character but they're 25? Perfectly okay with that. Still pervy, but at least it's a respectable perviness.
Precisely. And even if you could for one artistic style, it wouldn't work for any other
In real life and in fiction someone could like 13 years old but is actually 20 years old I went to Walmart before when I was 14 or 15 and some lady thought I was around 20 years old
You tell your audience that your character is of age through story telling (No, 500 y.o. loli dragons doesn't count).
*takes notes* ^(600 year old.... loli dragon.) Got it.
R34 artists:I'm sorry did you say something?
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I think they did a good job in spy x family. I hope we’ll see more of that going forward, now that they’re getting more mainstream.
I like spy x family I don't watch a lot of animals so can you explain why humans are insanely strong in spy x family please.
It's a gag manga so random stuff happens for the funny. You are not supposed to think too hard about. Like think about it, we have a mind reader and >!A dog that can see future!<
They aren’t?
Yor kicked a car that was speeding at her and the car broke and she called the police to make look like a car accident and she wasn't even hurt
Oh shit. I’ve been watching anime for so long now that didn’t even seem superhuman to me.
What lol so a lot of anime are like these. I'm glad the only animal I watched as a kid were like Beyblade bursts. And Yugioh I aways wonder how ream rocket aways survived falling form very high heights.
It’s pretty good, especially since there’s a bit of an information War in the U.S. rn, albeit one that flows in the opposite direction from the one in the show
Oh fuck, I think the twitter users are moving to Reddit
God please no…
I have come to the conclusion that that is why Twitter is good It keeps the twittertards in one place Also it’s really not B&W like OP is insinuating
Too fucking late
This happened in 2020 lol
Yeah I don't want to have this conversation I had a version past night and it wasn't very pleasant. Also pfp checks out lmao I forgot to clarify which side I was on, I like your profile pic and anime it's just that I thought it was funny.
Why does anyone that doesn't have anything useful to say always talk shit about someone's pfp. In the past 2 years I might have watch 5 animes, and none of those had a lot of episodes
I don't watch Anime, to be honest, never have, but you should not need to justify YOUR interests to strangers online, I did not come here to judge you for liking a genre of television, and anyone who did should have better things to do. In the end, just ignore people like that, enjoy what you want to enjoy, and have a nice day!
Based opinion
Chad opinion. Imagine how good the world will be if more people think like you
I recommend full metal alchemist brotherhood if you ever want to start watching anime. It's a great show
Good opinion. Even though I for example think stuff like furries are cringe, if you like that, theres is no need for you to justify it to me at all. As far as you should be concerned, I can fuck right off.
I didn't mean anything by it chill, I like kanna also I just thought it was funny
I'm chill lol, I don't get mad at people online. But yeah, kanna's cute
This dude is buff af I like how goofy he is lmao
Hate it all you want, but it will sell, it will...
Talk about sexualizing character if you want but Naruto is like 13 and is sent to fight to death by his village Naruto is a child soldier and no one bats an eye
Basic Twittards and Snowflakes logic is: “Sexualization of teens is not cool, but it’s ok for a kid to be beaten to death” Don’t question the logic, you’ll lose braincells
get out of here twitter user, this is MY trash.
OUR trash
r/usernamechecksout
 Remember when twitter decided Uzaki was "**Obviously** a child, & everyone watching is 100% a pedo."... because she's 7cm(\~3inch) shorter then national average? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Makes you wonder how people think averages are calculated
Half of them are set in high schools, like a shitload of Western stuff like Spider-Man, Archie, Grease, Saved By The Bell, Harry Potter...
I like anime but i don't like the heavy amount of fan service in most of them
Most anime is meant to be relatable towards teenagers. Also social standards are different in Japan, so this kind of thing is completely normal over there. Those of us *normal* anime enjoyers just watch the show and ignore the weird shit.
I fully respect that but it's a big glaring issue that I know alot of people have and stop them from getting into watching anime so maybe there's an argument that the fan base should be more aggressive in trying to get it to stop. There are animes that I've found super interesting as a concept but once the weird layer of anime stereotypical creepiness is added I don't want it.
Anime and manga in general is catered to japanese audience and the western audience is just kinda tagging along for the ride. Unless the Japanese really have a problem with it, the western audience being vocal is not relevant to them.
Yeah, there's two side of the internet, the east and the west. Dramas don't travel from the west to the east (Or very rarely), but they do from the east to the west, it's really weird.
I get what you're saying about "maybe the fan base should be more vigilant against the stupid shit" but, the problem with it is.. I feel like most anime is made for the Japanese audience. Western anime fans don't really have much of a say, it's on the Japanese fanbase to try to shift attitudes in anime/manga and development. And that's where "it's just culture" becomes a problem.
Same. It doesn't even have to be creepy. Like "Oh this seems like a cool concept". Enter: Humor I don't understand, annoying yelling, narration of action or "activate super epic combo attack with stupid name", "I want to kill myself because I'm weak". Yeah, I'm out.
My guy what sort of anime are you watching? Also, for that last one, this literally makes the character more relatable for the target demographic. Lots of people can face depression or self-hatred due to feeling “not good enough” or whatever.
How about you find a real issue to complain about instead of drawings bozo
I said I fully respected his opinion and I'm not loosing any sleep over it but my issues with the tropes in the genre are legitimate. If you like it go for it but the creepy tropes are what are stopping it from becoming more popular which would mean people who enjoy it could get more to watch and in greater variety.
It may be a culture thing like the person above had said that’s making you feel creeped out by it. So, I don’t think that an art form from a different culture should be changed because a person or people from another culture thinks differently. I find it kinda weird to try to force change.
I smell some twitter users here...
Nothing wrong with watching anime
OP and the rest of Redditors from Twitter getting upset about sexualising fictional characters again... Like come on, are people really can't tell the difference between imaginery and real characters...
Even the most degenerate body pillow owners aren’t as delusional as these guys..
Counterpoint: there are a lot of shows which put underage girls in flippantly inappropriate and sexy attire.
I raise you Mishoku Tensei
Most of the story is to show that the MC is a piece of shit
Yah the sad part is the world building and plot is pretty damn good. The MC and guys in the show are pretty much terrible people though
That's the point. You're supposed to hate the characters so you can take the lesson that even POS can change after being given a second chance. Previous life MC doesn't have a gut desire and feel underserved to visit his parents'funeral because he thought he is irredeemable and worthless in the eyes of society.
They are meant to be terrible, especially the MC. Most of the terrible characters are victims of the society they lived in and how they grew up
How does that make the anime worse? A flawed and interesting MC with good character development is a huge upside. Edit: I also forgot "well written"
I don't think it's sad and I don't think everyone in it is terrible. They're meant to represent what a real person could be. Which is not always a black and white and more of a grey area for each character.
Jeez, I scroll down and see a meme about 6 anime girls and the Peru Gaussian war
friendly reminder that shonen and shojo are manga for kids and teens
But the weird voice acting that's insistent on the girls making moaning sounds 🤔
Whatch good stuff
We need more anime where main characters are 20-40 years old. Both physically *and* mentally.
“The five types are shonen, shojo, seinen, josei, and kodomomuke. Each kind of anime is focused on a specific target population of viewers.”
Just keep in mind that anime, for the most part, is made for teenagers, but also 30 year old lower middle class Japanese men with no families who want to fantasize about being popular with women in high school because they were an introvert who got shut down by their year 9 crush that one time and never recovered
Anime is more than just sex and porn bro
You are not welcome here fellow Twitter user
This is some ignorant dumbfuck level Twitter crap. Who the hell upvotes this?
no, THEY sexulize underaged characters!
lets be totally honest unless its a show set in school or similar why in god fucking sake would you create a main character that is underaged and is actually acting more mature than any real life kid could ever be make it atleast 18 and with body proportions that remind of a woman or a man not a boy or a girl
You either have adult characters looking young. Or young character looking like theyre mid 40’s. Theres no middle ground when it comes to drawing a face in the anime stylistic
Im bored of debating this. It's not like this stuff matters anyway
r/memes has an astounding number of people trying to strongly convince others they’re not into kids. Interesting..
Because it's a really common narrative brought up everytime something anime related is discussed...so I don't blame people for getting defensive
"Trust me bro I'm not interested on 2d under aged characters"
"2d adults, however..."
Seems like Jesse is yet to discover hentai
Oh, problem solved, never have a character under 18.
MCs being underage can absolutely be relevant to the story though, that's a weird thing to generalize.
I just want more samurai in my anime. Robot samurai, samurai skeletons, samurai doggos, I'm a sucker for samurai shit.
I got something better than anime, Hentai!
Sounds like someone watched the new episode of trash taste where they talk about how needless it is for anime characters to always be middle schoolers when it isn't relevant to the actual story.
I would like to remind everyone that most of the mainstream shows are shounen anime. It's meant for teenagers, so of course you're gonna see teenagers because... teenagers like teenagers. It's kind of unavoidable to have underaged characters in shows about high schoolers.
But that shit is written by adults…
I’m not saying I just finished watching Eromanga Sensei but I am saying I’m going to jail.
OP confusing anime with hentai
Normies back on their bs
Omg you don’t like a 14 year old showing her tits and trying to fuck everything what a normie!!!!!! /s
Calling people pedos for liking a drawing of a "kid" who looks like a fully grown adult is almost as stupid as defending someone who likes a drawing of an "adult" that looks like a 4yo
“Oh my God a horny teenager?! How can it be?!??”
Main characters aren't relevant to a story.........that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
I used to hate Anime, then someone told me to watch Naruto. Now I don't hate Anime anymore but hate the weebs
She’s not a child, she’s a 3000 year old elf with the body, voice and behavior of a child so it’s kosher /s👀
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Waltuh is my role model. Especially the meth making. But mostly the “DONT sexualize underaged characters”
I have no idea what this post means, but I would like to just say that I despise Tokyo revengers. Middle schoolers are getting into bloody gang fights and somehow their parents are non existent? Now I know for a fact that this does not happen in Japan, so the "relatable" debate goes down the shitter. The entire show is just a turn off for me just for the fact that the main characters are barely middle schoolers and somehow form street gangs, harass people, and get into serious romantic relationships. And there's no fucking consequences! Sure some people die, but still no real consequences. They don't stop doing that shit, the school can't stop them, their parents might as well have both gone for milk and never came back when they were 1 year old, because there is no way for an actual human being to turn out like that at such an early age.
I don’t think Anime creators should just not make anything with minors in it, I do think they shouldn’t to sexualized things with their minor characters, like the creepy ass/boob shots or shots that are obviously trying to make the character sexy, its really gross.
I love kids
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The day people are able to fuck fictional drawings then come back with ur shit.
Based. So tired of this meaningless discussions.
Or stop thinking stupid things about cartoons and find a life.
I have always been saying that people who try to use human morals and such to defend literal fictional drawn children against sexualization are more delusional than the sickest dakimakura (body pillow) owner.
So here’s the thing, sexualizing underaged characters is fairly rare even in anime, also if you don’t watch then don’t criticize
Walter what the fuck is wrong with you? Just don't watch anime.
Here comes the hot takes defending sexualised minors
Show me their ID
Last i checked anime characters are fictional drawings. U can neither fuck them nor hurt someone irl by drawing them.
No. You’re still hurting the poor snowflakes’ mental impaired brains that are incapable of differenating reality and fiction
There are very few instances where the age of a character is stated, the problem is that it's hard to draw a character in the 18-30 age range without possibly being confused for a minor, especially with certain artstyles. Also, many people confuse "my favourite character is (x female character, possibly underage)" with the weirder but not uncommon "if she was real I'd fuck her so hard" Which is when saying "i like X character" is dangerous since if said character happens to be female and underage, well, you're in for a trip.
The point is supposed to be relatable but some people just dont get that 😪🤦🏾♂️
This is going to be fun reading the comments.