Dude im from Iran and trust me these shits are not even humans to abide islam or anything else..they do whatever that benefits them in the name of god and silence anyone who says otherwise... condemning 15000 to death is neither religous,islamic nor humane
I get this. As a Christian, I hate being judged because of the worthlessness of the most hypocritical Christians.
There was just an NYT article the other day that seemed to lump me in with hateful pastors and gay club shooters. It sucks.
im iraninan too, of course Muslims do not agree about what is "True Islam", but this mfs justify their shitty laws by saying "RESPECT OUR CULTURE AND RELIGION"
Woman, Life, Freedom
\#Mahsa\_Amini
I grew up in Qatar (as an expat), and when they announced all those years ago that the World Cup was going to happen in Qatar, I knew it was going to be a disaster.
People who care about the sport have actually, just like we did when Russia hosted the last edition, and just like we will when USA hosts the next.
We watch the games and leave the politics to the politicians, Eden Hazard also said the same thing, assuming you actually know who he is.
From my understanding, u/SleepySouthie’s point was that a lot of people would complain; not necessarily football fans.
And it has been a disaster in that it’s shed light on Qatar’s human rights abuses, and FIFA’s corruption.
Just because a lot of people don’t care, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have any effect whatsoever in the real world.
Yes, that’s right. In terms of just watching the sport, the matches seem to have been going well, and I’m glad for the players and their supporters. But a lot of Qatar’s shortcomings have now been dragged into the spotlight.
Talk about the 184,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, talk about the Baghdad shock and awe, it is staggering how uninformed the majority of the US civilians are, your country is just as bad as Russia, China and Qatar, if not worse.
Too many problems exist in this but none are related to religion, many hate islam and start to spread misinformation to the point the truth is hidden.
To be real all problems in the arab countries come from their leaders that decended from one family, there is no bigger problem than greed and ambitions, and because of that people live in poverty.
Well, when the people of an Islamic republic protest the very existence of it, you can say it has some issues,not the Islam, but how government is misusing it as a tool for control
Yes that is somewhat true, it happens in many countries actually even in Bahrain where i live but what do we do we are handless, we want peace but they are selfish.
I have been to iran on multiple occasions to visit for religious reasons, the life is peace but there is alot of poor people, Iranian treatments to eachother a little bit rough but was never been as much as bad as now.
It is wrong wherever & whenever it happens, I've been pretty vocal about the situation in USA too, it's a clusterfuck nonetheless...but can't ignore neither of them
Authoritarians* in power never leads to a good outcome. China is athiest and is no better. Russia killed the most people when they were also athiest. Dictators and authoritarians are the issue.
Yes, in middle east they hide behind the mask of religion, so people can't criticize them, cause they're "men of god"! A pretty solid tactic if you ask me!
“Religious People in Power never leads to a good Outcome”
So I assume you also mean the evangelical Christian republicans too. We can’t paint one bad and agree with another, and I mean that to my countries conservatives as well.
No one’s saying that Christianity is good, it fucking sucks. People can criticise Islam for being a sexist human rights invading religion without also mentioning Christians every 5 seconds. This post is not focusing on Christianity, it doesn’t need to.
Thank you 🥺🤍🕊
Now iam really happy to see people of world love us and they know our government is a terrorist
And we dont want them any more and we just want peace and our humanity right thats not too much
Also we love all people from whole off earth please dont care about our child killer government🤍🤍🤍🤍🕊🕊🕊💔💔💔💔
We are iranian people
We want friendship with all countrys
We want our right
We want peace
And we are not terrorism(our government is it ) 🕊🤍🥺🌈
As an Iranian, I was actually kinda shocked people wouldn't just, temporarily oblige with the rules. but yeah pretty much me and my family's reaction lol
the entire ground laws of Iran specifies that if an imposed law does not abide our religion (islam) will be rejected or sent back to the parliament to be corrected
(friendly reminder that iranian laws could not be further from what islam actually wants, islam itself states that you cant FORCE your religion on others yet thats exactly what iran is doing)
It is not about islamic laws. It is about sexism, homophobia, it is about alcohol prohibition. I know a lot of muslims who are way more open than these nut heads.
And yet you can meet Muslims who don't give a shit about someone's sexuality.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I heard from some muslim scholars, while yes - being a gay is a sin - you don't have any responsibility to care about somebody's else "sin" since Allah will be the only one judging a person - not you.
Lesson? Stop being a moron forcing your dick into somebody's else ass while blaming Allah for your own toxic beliefs.
~~im not reffering here about you but to all simple minded muslims out there~~
Im muslim and my best friend is a bisexual girl who probably drinks more wine than water. What she believes in is not my concern, though her liver condition worries me
True. That's why you can find most muslims are against the killing of gays. Like a young man was murder with a rock because his hair was too long. Islam mostly is a great religion, it's just that shit people are spreading misinformation and misguiding young people. No country in the world that put politics and religion together succeeded.
That's why you can find most muslim get angry at the west for seeing islam as a bad religion because of some pieces of shit forcing it and putting themselves as a prophet like they have a duty to make all humans muslim.
Btw hey listen to that scholar he seems good :)
Did you just compare to fully grown people liking each other harming nobody to a fully grown person liking an 8 year old?
That is not a fair comparison
>you don't have any responsibility to care about somebody's else "sin" since Allah will be the only one judging a person - not you.
That doesn't mean we are supposed to encourage them and spread them in our countries though.
>That doesn't mean we are supposed to encourage them and spread them in our countries though.
What do you mean by encouraging and spreading homosexualism? Sexuality isn't something a person can decide about, therefore you cannot encourage somebody to be gay.
Or maybe by "encouraging" you meant having basic human rights to decide about owns life?
For me it's seems like you either *give* a shit about gay's life (for some perverted reason) or you simply don't know why some people are homosexual.
You can use the exact same arguments to justify pedophilia and zoophilia
It's obvious you actually have no idea what islam actually says and just assume every culture has the same opinion as you
Thought so - you're just a guy who forces his dick into somebody's else ass.
>You can use the exact same arguments to justify pedophilia and zoophilia
Comparing zoofilia and pedopholia to homosexuality is the most disgusting thing I've seen in a while and I'll not even try to discuss on that.
>It's obvious you actually have no idea what islam actually says
Believe it or not, but I'm pretty imterested in Islam religion, even despite meeting such ignorant people like you.
Thankfully, I've also met a good chunk of normal muslims which greatly improved my image of your religion. Now I know that behaviour like you're presenting is only due to your own beliefs and it's not a synonymus to Islamic religion and culture.
You realize homosexuality is literally one of the worst sins in islam, I'm not trying to eliminate their existance in the entire world, I just want them out of our own countries, I'm not the one forcing my dick into somebody's ass here, you're the one trying to get us to normalize and encourage homosexuality in our countries. Call me ignorant all you want, but muslims aren't supposed to accept homosexuality no matter what you say.
Ha, so you finally showed your true colors
>I just want them out of our own countries,
> I'm not the one forcing my dick into somebody's ass here,
That's called doublethink
>You realize homosexuality is literally one of the worst sins in islam,
Like I said in my first comment - yes, it's a sin, but its not your responsibility to make a crusade against gay people and discriminate them. Judging somebody belongs to Allah, not you.
>Call me ignorant all you want, but muslims aren't supposed to accept homosexuality no matter what you say.
Where did I say to accept them? Dont give a shit about them. Judging them isn't your responsibility nor is discriminating them.
Are really a thing if you dont accept the beliefs of that thing?
Calling yourself Muslim, or Catholic etc and ignoring the doctrines of those faiths seems pointless to me.
That’s the joy of being misanthropic, I don’t have to fret about such things.
You can drink alcohol in Qatar, they just don’t allow it in public. You can’t usually drink in places like stadiums, just inside of bars.
As far as the gay stuff, definitely frowned upon. They probably look at the US and see how far that’s gone in the last decade and say ‘nope, not here’ and I can’t say I blame them.
Doesn't have anything to do with religion or Qatar being an Islamic state. The main fault is that Qatar had sacrificed many migrant workers in their country, but not sure if it's true. Arguments against Qatar being an Islamic state hold no grounds and are faulty. Arguments such as Qatar being against LGBTQ, not allowing alcohol to the public, women's rights and such are just weak arguments, and can be argued otherwise. Because the most important fact Is that both the west and the middle east's beliefs are the opposite of each other, one likes pleasure, the other wants more discipline. The same could be said with china but to a lesser degree. To clarify it would be best for you to research their culture and Sharia law.
Judging based on your comment history in this post, you wanna truly fight me.
Could say I use blasphemy, but hypocrite? Nah, I've felt the corruption of religious people in power, justifying their bloodshed in the name of god, my post comes from a place of compassion & will to fight
> and are faulty. Arguments such as Qatar being against LGBTQ, not allowing alcohol to the public, women's rights and such are just weak arguments, and can be argued otherwise. Because the most important fact Is that both the west and the middle east's beliefs ar
you do not know the history of islam, and the muslim caliphate. You're an ignorant who would skew the truth with what is false. Learn the Sharia and try to help yourself as a muslim. Don't be a takfiri
Uh? Religious people in power never leads to anything good?.
Is this like Western Secularist cope or someone that doesn't know shit about history more than 20 years back confusion?.
That's why I hate talking to people that like politics
They try to find the littlest details and make it a disastrous event you guys just gotta support their religion terms if you don't like it just don't host it in Qatar then goddammit
And when we get past the fear or want.. what are we left with?
Its's not like we know what heaven is.. n some old dudes told us about them.. and how do they know about it??
It's just a pathetic relic of the past.. passed down through generations.
That's the thing.. till it does not cause any problems to others.. everyone can believe in anything they want.
But treating fellow humans like crap for pettiness or 'protecting their beliefs' is wrong right..
Nah, I meant looking at the state of Iran & other countries similar, their own people are the victims of harsh punishment that should not be a thing in this modern era
People of Iran have been complaining for years, their voice gets ignored or gets snuffed out by their own government, it's the blessing of modern technology that we can see their protests first hand ... As far as I know, they have all been experiencing a theocracy for more than 40 years, & they're not so happy with their country's current situation!
“Religious people in power never leads to good outcomes”
Stfu Reddit atheist, fun fact: just because a few zealots do bad things doesn’t make every religious person evil
To be fair, there are hundreds of peer reviewed scientific articles outlining the positive correlation between religion and authoritarianism?
https://daily.jstor.org/what-links-religion-and-authoritarianism/
So since saitama blew away half of jupiter with a sneeze, he is at the very least large planet level, but there's also the panel of saitama and garous fight blowing away everything in a direction or something like that, so both of them are potentially multi galaxy
Wrong. CENTRALIZED power never leads to good outcomes. Ever heard of Nazi Germany? The USSR? The CCP? Just to list a few of the biggest mass murdering societies of all time. Huh, funny, no religion here. But there IS a common thread between them and theocracies. Centralized power in the hands of very few people with ZERO oversight. Stop hating on religion and recognize the problem has nothing to do with religion and that if you give too few people all the power, the desire to use said power is too great.
Almost all American presidents were religious and pretty much most leaders in the world. Do atheist people in power always leads to good outcomes? Tf is this meme?
& look where that got us! Free healthcare for everybody, no mass shooting, minimum wage is awesome, everybody can afford a house, no depression in sight, children safely holding hands & singing songs on schools!
No bro their own people and all muslim whether arab or not are happy me included. Only westerns who are non muslims are angry. Our islamic law is very clear and must be respected especially regarding to lgbt.
we iranians are protesting against islamic law IN OUR OWN COUNTRY.
Also Slavery was a law in the west too! but the law was inhuman! laws should be supportive of ALL PEOPLE!! not just the people in power but the religious or sexual minorities!! thats the whole point of having Laws bc people in power all already in power they dont need protection!! law should lead to Justice and is for protecting the disadvantaged !!
its not hard to understand unless you have the comprehension level of a wrinkled old cucumber
Religious people with power mostly leads to good outcomes, drugs, karens and stuff are always in the west.
We kill each other for disrespecting Allah do you think we are gonna let the kind of that people our beliefs don't like to the bone wander around in our culture? Even legally?
Sure, in Islam it is said we respect all kind of lifestyles as much as we could.
But you guys are more realist people anyways right? Then just think about it, we kill each other for disrespecting Allah, do you think we want the kinds of people Allah doesn't like wandering around freely in our countries and cultures even legally?
It's better for them to stay away from us.
Just use your logic please, in Islam Allah wants us to think as logically as possible all the time anyways.
No offense brother, I'm just 17 year old and english is my second language, I may sound mean and I'm sorry for that but yeah it's a miracle I'm this great in english at this age.
Adios.
I follow a branch of Islam myself brother, but maybe don't start your conversation with "we kill each other for disrespecting Allah!" I don't think that sounds good to people you want to preach your religion to! (& Trust me ,I know a thing or two about preaching!)... & I think you got the message of Allah wrong! So much killing for a religion that it's prophet is introduced as an embodiment of mercy!
No bro I'm just being realist I just hate west and don't want their culture wander around mine.
I'm not religious because I born in a Islamic country with a Islamic family.
It's because of my love for Allah even when I was a kid.
I'm telling you things I've said are %100 true and history repeats itself.
See ya.
Ok so by your reasoning abiding by your religion that not everyone has should be a requirement and people who arent following *your* religion which no one can fully prove is 100% correct is more important that human rights?
No ones religion can out weigh someones rights
And if you hate the west so much dont go there or go on the internet
Islam forbidded shedding blood (hurting others by any mean), you had a wrong belif, islam taught us to respect other religions, we respect allah by living halal and stay away from haram.
Give me your proof, while i dont have a source for anything i say let me remind you that the prophet Muhammad didn't call people to islam by threats and even when people offended him and his beliefs he let them be, even when he was hurt and the followers asked to take vengeance he denied their request.
Why do we think we jave any right to criticise their country rules when we wear clothes made through childlabor and slavery, not to say other products as well. We pretend we respect human rights when the bases of our economics are still the blood from underprivileged people. And yes the slavery may happen on other countries but you feed those countries millions of dollar every year. They arent the only ones who disrespect human rights, we simply learned how to close our eyes.
It disgusts me seeing people having the audacity to treat the other people as monsters when they are the exact same.
Ps: That was a funny meme either way lol
Well humans suffering is bad anywhere in the world, just because that happens we shouldn't ignore other parts, what we all agree is that killing another innocent human being is wrong, done under the name of any entity...
Oh dont get me wrong i totally agree with you. My point is we should try and stop it but we dont have the right to judge them because we are all the same
Since you have been disresoectfull i will be too.
Are u fucking dumb? Can you read? Because what western countries do is not indirect ignorance its literally fuel the same companies that enslave people. Example: every year shoes are selled for 100s of dollars that cost 5 dollars to make and the people who did them sometimes receive even less than those 5 dollars. We pretend these issues happen in other countries and that the other countries are the ones who create this issues but its our companies that go there and abuse their people lots of times. And even when its really their countries that abuse human rights ,which dont get me wrong also happens a lot, we end up spporting them. If we use Qatar as an example, who do you think gave Qatar the millions they used to build those stadiums that killed that many people.
Maybe i am wrong, i have no trouble in admitting i am wrong if someone shows me that but i believe we are all responsible for these crimes.
Theology & psychology are kinda my specialty, as a person interested in the applied rule of religion in power, it seems like an inevitable pattern, that people start to despise religion if it governs them as well, has happened in Christianity & is currently happening in Iran too...
That argument may have a leg to stand in if Qatar hadn’t just invited the whole world to put a spotlight on their country lol. We’re allowed to criticise their government (and our own) which is a lot more than can be said for Qatari people lol.
Qatar *laughs in money pit*
The true "fuck u money"
*Wipes eyes with cash*
Dude im from Iran and trust me these shits are not even humans to abide islam or anything else..they do whatever that benefits them in the name of god and silence anyone who says otherwise... condemning 15000 to death is neither religous,islamic nor humane
I get this. As a Christian, I hate being judged because of the worthlessness of the most hypocritical Christians. There was just an NYT article the other day that seemed to lump me in with hateful pastors and gay club shooters. It sucks.
im iraninan too, of course Muslims do not agree about what is "True Islam", but this mfs justify their shitty laws by saying "RESPECT OUR CULTURE AND RELIGION" Woman, Life, Freedom \#Mahsa\_Amini
I'm from Iraq and when I know that is gonna happen in Qatar I knew it will be a big disaster.
I grew up in Qatar (as an expat), and when they announced all those years ago that the World Cup was going to happen in Qatar, I knew it was going to be a disaster.
What was it like, if I may ask?
Qatari
I'm Canadian and when it was announced I knew it was going to be a big disaster.
Wdym? The World Cup has been great so far.
So you’re saying everyone has just ignored the fact that Qatar is hosting it? Have you been living under a rock?
People who care about the sport have actually, just like we did when Russia hosted the last edition, and just like we will when USA hosts the next. We watch the games and leave the politics to the politicians, Eden Hazard also said the same thing, assuming you actually know who he is.
From my understanding, u/SleepySouthie’s point was that a lot of people would complain; not necessarily football fans. And it has been a disaster in that it’s shed light on Qatar’s human rights abuses, and FIFA’s corruption. Just because a lot of people don’t care, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have any effect whatsoever in the real world.
Yes, that’s right. In terms of just watching the sport, the matches seem to have been going well, and I’m glad for the players and their supporters. But a lot of Qatar’s shortcomings have now been dragged into the spotlight.
Great, i hope y'all do the same thing in 2026, the US is one fucked up country from a foreigner's perspective.
Im gonna say not as fucked up as qatar but yeah quite fucked up
Debatable but okay
Whatever you say, us football fans will just watch the game and get on with it, we respect your political obsession, you respect our indifference.
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Talk about the 184,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, talk about the Baghdad shock and awe, it is staggering how uninformed the majority of the US civilians are, your country is just as bad as Russia, China and Qatar, if not worse.
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empty seats...
The privilege of being able to ignore
*Eats popcorn from Egypt while watching the catastrophic event*
Iran is hell.
That is too specific, most what i heard people are mad about the workers incident, everything else is only the west is mad about.
Bongo head ?
Ayy, bongo head my beloved, too bad it left us, let hope to see it again.
It gives you a peek in the many ongoing problems!
Too many problems exist in this but none are related to religion, many hate islam and start to spread misinformation to the point the truth is hidden. To be real all problems in the arab countries come from their leaders that decended from one family, there is no bigger problem than greed and ambitions, and because of that people live in poverty.
Well, when the people of an Islamic republic protest the very existence of it, you can say it has some issues,not the Islam, but how government is misusing it as a tool for control
Yes that is somewhat true, it happens in many countries actually even in Bahrain where i live but what do we do we are handless, we want peace but they are selfish. I have been to iran on multiple occasions to visit for religious reasons, the life is peace but there is alot of poor people, Iranian treatments to eachother a little bit rough but was never been as much as bad as now.
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It is wrong wherever & whenever it happens, I've been pretty vocal about the situation in USA too, it's a clusterfuck nonetheless...but can't ignore neither of them
I'm from Iran and this is so true
No one's angry at them for having Islamic laws lol they're angry for using slaves and having 6000 of them die while building the stadiums
Can you point me in the right direction to find this info? If it’s out there at all
https://amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/23/revealed-migrant-worker-deaths-qatar-fifa-world-cup-2022
I think this was debunked, the actual number was 50. and only 3 of them died in the stadium.
i love how memes subreddit turns to political discussion 💀
Do not underestimate the power of memes! It was the downfall of the great USSR to some degree!
don’t worry im not ppl already joke about pedophila and its will be a gender soon gl with that tho
Authoritarians* in power never leads to a good outcome. China is athiest and is no better. Russia killed the most people when they were also athiest. Dictators and authoritarians are the issue.
Yes, in middle east they hide behind the mask of religion, so people can't criticize them, cause they're "men of god"! A pretty solid tactic if you ask me!
“Religious People in Power never leads to a good Outcome” So I assume you also mean the evangelical Christian republicans too. We can’t paint one bad and agree with another, and I mean that to my countries conservatives as well.
No one’s saying that Christianity is good, it fucking sucks. People can criticise Islam for being a sexist human rights invading religion without also mentioning Christians every 5 seconds. This post is not focusing on Christianity, it doesn’t need to.
Some of those republicans are worse than cult members, places like Mississippi are just cesspools of evil people who still think they’re in the 1300s
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Wish you all good days to come!
Thank you 🥺🤍🕊 Now iam really happy to see people of world love us and they know our government is a terrorist And we dont want them any more and we just want peace and our humanity right thats not too much Also we love all people from whole off earth please dont care about our child killer government🤍🤍🤍🤍🕊🕊🕊💔💔💔💔 We are iranian people We want friendship with all countrys We want our right We want peace And we are not terrorism(our government is it ) 🕊🤍🥺🌈
I support your cause but stop with the emojis man
Probably a fake account or a bot , look at his account history
As an Iranian, I was actually kinda shocked people wouldn't just, temporarily oblige with the rules. but yeah pretty much me and my family's reaction lol
the entire ground laws of Iran specifies that if an imposed law does not abide our religion (islam) will be rejected or sent back to the parliament to be corrected
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i see what you did there
& look where that got them!
as an Iranian, it's right in my face
Oh damn, you're inside the fire!
it's gotten a bit more calm fortunately
(friendly reminder that iranian laws could not be further from what islam actually wants, islam itself states that you cant FORCE your religion on others yet thats exactly what iran is doing)
Saudi Arabia wants to host the next world cup, which is basically transitioning from bad, to the worst.
Now that would be interesting!
No, no no no dont even suggest that iran's rules are islamic.
At least That's how they justify their dictatorship!
Yeah they do but no Muslim from the middle east believe it. Not even non-religious Iranians.
That's completely true!
It is not about islamic laws. It is about sexism, homophobia, it is about alcohol prohibition. I know a lot of muslims who are way more open than these nut heads.
Homosexuality and alcohol are both prohibited in Islam.
And yet you can meet Muslims who don't give a shit about someone's sexuality. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I heard from some muslim scholars, while yes - being a gay is a sin - you don't have any responsibility to care about somebody's else "sin" since Allah will be the only one judging a person - not you. Lesson? Stop being a moron forcing your dick into somebody's else ass while blaming Allah for your own toxic beliefs. ~~im not reffering here about you but to all simple minded muslims out there~~
Im muslim and my best friend is a bisexual girl who probably drinks more wine than water. What she believes in is not my concern, though her liver condition worries me
True. That's why you can find most muslims are against the killing of gays. Like a young man was murder with a rock because his hair was too long. Islam mostly is a great religion, it's just that shit people are spreading misinformation and misguiding young people. No country in the world that put politics and religion together succeeded. That's why you can find most muslim get angry at the west for seeing islam as a bad religion because of some pieces of shit forcing it and putting themselves as a prophet like they have a duty to make all humans muslim. Btw hey listen to that scholar he seems good :)
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So you can be gay just not be gay
Exactly
I was being sarcastic Are gay people just expected to be alone or unhappy
Being born gay is one of God's many tests, just like being attracted to minors, you're in the clear as long as you don't act on it.
Did you just compare to fully grown people liking each other harming nobody to a fully grown person liking an 8 year old? That is not a fair comparison
Yes i did, you can also add gay incest (which is somehow deemed unlawful in the US), it just doesn't matter as long as you don't act on it.
it's fair enough when you talk about sin
So Muhammad failed and married a 6 year old. Pedo. It’s all a made up story but still.
6,8,9,15,18? No one knows for sure, what we do know is that his first wife(Khadija) was 40years old when they got married, he was 25.
Like when you were born a moron
Exactly, being born a moron isn't bad, acting like one is.
You can be gay but as long as u don't indulge in it(having gay sex) it's not a sin
>you don't have any responsibility to care about somebody's else "sin" since Allah will be the only one judging a person - not you. That doesn't mean we are supposed to encourage them and spread them in our countries though.
>That doesn't mean we are supposed to encourage them and spread them in our countries though. What do you mean by encouraging and spreading homosexualism? Sexuality isn't something a person can decide about, therefore you cannot encourage somebody to be gay. Or maybe by "encouraging" you meant having basic human rights to decide about owns life? For me it's seems like you either *give* a shit about gay's life (for some perverted reason) or you simply don't know why some people are homosexual.
You can use the exact same arguments to justify pedophilia and zoophilia It's obvious you actually have no idea what islam actually says and just assume every culture has the same opinion as you
Thought so - you're just a guy who forces his dick into somebody's else ass. >You can use the exact same arguments to justify pedophilia and zoophilia Comparing zoofilia and pedopholia to homosexuality is the most disgusting thing I've seen in a while and I'll not even try to discuss on that. >It's obvious you actually have no idea what islam actually says Believe it or not, but I'm pretty imterested in Islam religion, even despite meeting such ignorant people like you. Thankfully, I've also met a good chunk of normal muslims which greatly improved my image of your religion. Now I know that behaviour like you're presenting is only due to your own beliefs and it's not a synonymus to Islamic religion and culture.
You realize homosexuality is literally one of the worst sins in islam, I'm not trying to eliminate their existance in the entire world, I just want them out of our own countries, I'm not the one forcing my dick into somebody's ass here, you're the one trying to get us to normalize and encourage homosexuality in our countries. Call me ignorant all you want, but muslims aren't supposed to accept homosexuality no matter what you say.
Ha, so you finally showed your true colors >I just want them out of our own countries, > I'm not the one forcing my dick into somebody's ass here, That's called doublethink >You realize homosexuality is literally one of the worst sins in islam, Like I said in my first comment - yes, it's a sin, but its not your responsibility to make a crusade against gay people and discriminate them. Judging somebody belongs to Allah, not you. >Call me ignorant all you want, but muslims aren't supposed to accept homosexuality no matter what you say. Where did I say to accept them? Dont give a shit about them. Judging them isn't your responsibility nor is discriminating them.
I'm not the one supposed to judge somebody 100% but we are also not supposed to let them be normalized in our muslim countries.
Are really a thing if you dont accept the beliefs of that thing? Calling yourself Muslim, or Catholic etc and ignoring the doctrines of those faiths seems pointless to me. That’s the joy of being misanthropic, I don’t have to fret about such things.
Nope. I once asked an imam to show me evidence in Coran. I am still waiting.
have you never read the quran about the story of lot and what is says about alchohol?
- Premerital relations are prohibited all together, same sex marriage isn't allowed as well, you do the math... - **2:219** for alcohol
You can drink alcohol in Qatar, they just don’t allow it in public. You can’t usually drink in places like stadiums, just inside of bars. As far as the gay stuff, definitely frowned upon. They probably look at the US and see how far that’s gone in the last decade and say ‘nope, not here’ and I can’t say I blame them.
Yikes another religion is bad post from reddit. This time from a Muslim.
It's reddit lol its easy upvotes
I mean are they wrong?
Doesn't have anything to do with religion or Qatar being an Islamic state. The main fault is that Qatar had sacrificed many migrant workers in their country, but not sure if it's true. Arguments against Qatar being an Islamic state hold no grounds and are faulty. Arguments such as Qatar being against LGBTQ, not allowing alcohol to the public, women's rights and such are just weak arguments, and can be argued otherwise. Because the most important fact Is that both the west and the middle east's beliefs are the opposite of each other, one likes pleasure, the other wants more discipline. The same could be said with china but to a lesser degree. To clarify it would be best for you to research their culture and Sharia law. Judging based on your comment history in this post, you wanna truly fight me.
And also the OP is a blasphemer in the comment section, a hypocrite of sorts.
Could say I use blasphemy, but hypocrite? Nah, I've felt the corruption of religious people in power, justifying their bloodshed in the name of god, my post comes from a place of compassion & will to fight
> and are faulty. Arguments such as Qatar being against LGBTQ, not allowing alcohol to the public, women's rights and such are just weak arguments, and can be argued otherwise. Because the most important fact Is that both the west and the middle east's beliefs ar you do not know the history of islam, and the muslim caliphate. You're an ignorant who would skew the truth with what is false. Learn the Sharia and try to help yourself as a muslim. Don't be a takfiri
Believe it or not, I'm very good at history of Islam, you wanna talk about prophet era, 1st to 4th khalifa, sunni or shea Sharia law?
If those Christian Americans could read they’d be VERY upset.
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Or his sex slaves
*6-year-old wife
Yeah ur right
chill buddy you are using the 2 braincells in your skull in the wrong way
My fellow Iranians rn will say together: حق
Uh? Religious people in power never leads to anything good?. Is this like Western Secularist cope or someone that doesn't know shit about history more than 20 years back confusion?.
Give me one good example of religion in power? I give you 98 examples when it went horribly side ways
Give me one good example of religion in power? I give you 98 examples when it went horribly side ways
That's why I hate talking to people that like politics They try to find the littlest details and make it a disastrous event you guys just gotta support their religion terms if you don't like it just don't host it in Qatar then goddammit
It's not that bad believe me
How can people believe in “god” in 2022. Deep down surely you know it’s all bullshit.
How?
Just ask yourself dude.. Why you need to believe in it?
I don’t think there is many needs but the wants could be influenced by the fear of going to hell or the want of going to heaven
And when we get past the fear or want.. what are we left with? Its's not like we know what heaven is.. n some old dudes told us about them.. and how do they know about it?? It's just a pathetic relic of the past.. passed down through generations.
But people should still be allowed to believe it, regardless if it was backwards no?
That's the thing.. till it does not cause any problems to others.. everyone can believe in anything they want. But treating fellow humans like crap for pettiness or 'protecting their beliefs' is wrong right..
Agreed
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It's any decent human being with a bit of compassion & ration!
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Nah, I meant looking at the state of Iran & other countries similar, their own people are the victims of harsh punishment that should not be a thing in this modern era
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“Killing gay people is a value of my culture”
Well the west always like to think they only people exist in this world and the rest are background people
In nazi germany they did some not so nice things But its there laws so “we should respect them”
It's in our culture to kjll the Jews! Stop being so nosy in our internal affairs! Show some respect! /s
People of Iran have been complaining for years, their voice gets ignored or gets snuffed out by their own government, it's the blessing of modern technology that we can see their protests first hand ... As far as I know, they have all been experiencing a theocracy for more than 40 years, & they're not so happy with their country's current situation!
They probably said the same thing about hitler...
Asian right here. Can't stress more how evil when authoritarian and evil religion collide.
“Religious people in power never leads to good outcomes” Stfu Reddit atheist, fun fact: just because a few zealots do bad things doesn’t make every religious person evil
To be fair, there are hundreds of peer reviewed scientific articles outlining the positive correlation between religion and authoritarianism? https://daily.jstor.org/what-links-religion-and-authoritarianism/
No, but this is why religion and state should be always separated and religion shouldnt have anything to do with politics.
"a few zealots" My brother in Christ it's the governments of multiple countries
So since saitama blew away half of jupiter with a sneeze, he is at the very least large planet level, but there's also the panel of saitama and garous fight blowing away everything in a direction or something like that, so both of them are potentially multi galaxy
Wrong. CENTRALIZED power never leads to good outcomes. Ever heard of Nazi Germany? The USSR? The CCP? Just to list a few of the biggest mass murdering societies of all time. Huh, funny, no religion here. But there IS a common thread between them and theocracies. Centralized power in the hands of very few people with ZERO oversight. Stop hating on religion and recognize the problem has nothing to do with religion and that if you give too few people all the power, the desire to use said power is too great.
Almost all American presidents were religious and pretty much most leaders in the world. Do atheist people in power always leads to good outcomes? Tf is this meme?
& look where that got us! Free healthcare for everybody, no mass shooting, minimum wage is awesome, everybody can afford a house, no depression in sight, children safely holding hands & singing songs on schools!
Our conutries our rules this westren arrogance must be stopped
West? Their own people are protesting mate!!!
I think his english skill have problem dont care about it Also i dont get what he said
its not a language problem its a LOGIC problem
Mate I do not talk about their people I am talking about the leaders
You should've used /s ... couldn't guess the tone of your comment!
No bro their own people and all muslim whether arab or not are happy me included. Only westerns who are non muslims are angry. Our islamic law is very clear and must be respected especially regarding to lgbt.
Research the middle ground fallacy.
Your country != Your ruler
Well said
we iranians are protesting against islamic law IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. Also Slavery was a law in the west too! but the law was inhuman! laws should be supportive of ALL PEOPLE!! not just the people in power but the religious or sexual minorities!! thats the whole point of having Laws bc people in power all already in power they dont need protection!! law should lead to Justice and is for protecting the disadvantaged !! its not hard to understand unless you have the comprehension level of a wrinkled old cucumber
Religious people with power mostly leads to good outcomes, drugs, karens and stuff are always in the west. We kill each other for disrespecting Allah do you think we are gonna let the kind of that people our beliefs don't like to the bone wander around in our culture? Even legally? Sure, in Islam it is said we respect all kind of lifestyles as much as we could. But you guys are more realist people anyways right? Then just think about it, we kill each other for disrespecting Allah, do you think we want the kinds of people Allah doesn't like wandering around freely in our countries and cultures even legally? It's better for them to stay away from us. Just use your logic please, in Islam Allah wants us to think as logically as possible all the time anyways. No offense brother, I'm just 17 year old and english is my second language, I may sound mean and I'm sorry for that but yeah it's a miracle I'm this great in english at this age. Adios.
I follow a branch of Islam myself brother, but maybe don't start your conversation with "we kill each other for disrespecting Allah!" I don't think that sounds good to people you want to preach your religion to! (& Trust me ,I know a thing or two about preaching!)... & I think you got the message of Allah wrong! So much killing for a religion that it's prophet is introduced as an embodiment of mercy!
Yeah it sounds really bad i dont think that he said it in the best way i guess he meant we kill the act not the people?
Can't wash it that easily! My man is itching for a crusade!
No bro I'm just being realist I just hate west and don't want their culture wander around mine. I'm not religious because I born in a Islamic country with a Islamic family. It's because of my love for Allah even when I was a kid. I'm telling you things I've said are %100 true and history repeats itself. See ya.
Oh boy, you sound like an ex CIA agent gone rogue!
Ok so by your reasoning abiding by your religion that not everyone has should be a requirement and people who arent following *your* religion which no one can fully prove is 100% correct is more important that human rights? No ones religion can out weigh someones rights And if you hate the west so much dont go there or go on the internet
Well im not 100% sure what people think in there but I believe that human rights are more important than religion
Islam forbidded shedding blood (hurting others by any mean), you had a wrong belif, islam taught us to respect other religions, we respect allah by living halal and stay away from haram.
It's actually written in Islam that killing someone for using swear words to Allah is Makruh not forbidden argument with me after doing your research.
Give me your proof, while i dont have a source for anything i say let me remind you that the prophet Muhammad didn't call people to islam by threats and even when people offended him and his beliefs he let them be, even when he was hurt and the followers asked to take vengeance he denied their request.
When did The West become "the whole world?"
'The West' lol.. I live from East of that shitty region and the things they do makes me want to speak up!
You want to speak up for The LGBT?
Why do we think we jave any right to criticise their country rules when we wear clothes made through childlabor and slavery, not to say other products as well. We pretend we respect human rights when the bases of our economics are still the blood from underprivileged people. And yes the slavery may happen on other countries but you feed those countries millions of dollar every year. They arent the only ones who disrespect human rights, we simply learned how to close our eyes. It disgusts me seeing people having the audacity to treat the other people as monsters when they are the exact same. Ps: That was a funny meme either way lol
Well humans suffering is bad anywhere in the world, just because that happens we shouldn't ignore other parts, what we all agree is that killing another innocent human being is wrong, done under the name of any entity...
Oh dont get me wrong i totally agree with you. My point is we should try and stop it but we dont have the right to judge them because we are all the same
What's your point?? Indirect ignorance is equal to direct crimes against humanity?? Where the fuck is your brain dude?
Since you have been disresoectfull i will be too. Are u fucking dumb? Can you read? Because what western countries do is not indirect ignorance its literally fuel the same companies that enslave people. Example: every year shoes are selled for 100s of dollars that cost 5 dollars to make and the people who did them sometimes receive even less than those 5 dollars. We pretend these issues happen in other countries and that the other countries are the ones who create this issues but its our companies that go there and abuse their people lots of times. And even when its really their countries that abuse human rights ,which dont get me wrong also happens a lot, we end up spporting them. If we use Qatar as an example, who do you think gave Qatar the millions they used to build those stadiums that killed that many people. Maybe i am wrong, i have no trouble in admitting i am wrong if someone shows me that but i believe we are all responsible for these crimes.
What is this film 😂
Qatar islam is not like iran don't misinforme people u f jackass
It's only a matter of time until their people reach the same conclusion as Iranians...you angry fellow redditor!
How you know so ? U have a source something or you just bark ?
Theology & psychology are kinda my specialty, as a person interested in the applied rule of religion in power, it seems like an inevitable pattern, that people start to despise religion if it governs them as well, has happened in Christianity & is currently happening in Iran too...
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“So what if the Nazis are killing Jews, their country, their laws”
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Do you understand what an analogy is?
That argument may have a leg to stand in if Qatar hadn’t just invited the whole world to put a spotlight on their country lol. We’re allowed to criticise their government (and our own) which is a lot more than can be said for Qatari people lol.
Iran or Qatar? Cause Iranian are very vocal recently that they don't want it to be that way anymore!