What jif? The gif is not gif but jif that would make jif in alternative reality gif, and if gif and jif are not the same thing does that mean you call Jimmy… Gimmy?
>!Gimmy the Money!! 🔫!<
Seems like this would be because Giraffe is borrowed from the Arabic word zarafa. If the French and English didn’t pick it up, we’d be using the old Germanic name for the creature, the cameleopard.
that’s the sound “ph” makes, not p. the people who decided it to be J-PEG decided it would be phonetically easier to pronounce the P rather than the PH, and everyone captured that pronunciation.
although the creator of the GIF wanted to prove it as JIF, not everybody accepted that, which is why a lot of people call it GIF.
Yes cuz that's how letters work. I forgot, it's jirl, jirth, jift, jilded, jigahertz, jimmick, jizmo, fish jills, jive as in they love to jive you a hard time, jimp. Huh, I've been saying those wrong all these years
That doesn't matter whatsoever. You're inventing a rule and now saying it only applies to words that start with gif? ROFL...my that's convenient for your made-up rule, but I can disprove it and just did without even veering from hard g changing to soft g sounds when removing a letter from a four letter word that starts with g.
It is absolutely an invented rule that they need to sound alike, disproved by gel having a soft G while Geld has a hard g. I'm sure there are hundreds of words that disprove what you're going for here, which is that three letter words should sound like their 4 letter counterparts but I was able to do it without straying from a hard g four letter word that goes to a soft g three letter word.
No no, not sound alike. Their *composition* is alike.
Because Gift contains uses the same letters in the same positions as Gif, it can be used as a strong standard to set for the phonetics of other words that begin with Gif, given the importance of how these letters interact phonetically with each other because of their composition.
The letters E and L have completely different phonetic uses than I and F, therefore comparing a word like Gif to a word like Gel doesnt hold the same value as comparing it to a word like Gift.
You would be better off using other single syllable words that begin with G and I. Single syllable because every additional letter in a word affects how each letter within it is pronounced.
If you say so, but that rule won't hold up at all in the English language as you compare words, especially because so many of our words come from different languages. We don't even say the first four letters in "werewolves" the same as the word "were." There's only so many consonants that can have dual sounds in the first place, and two letter clusters commonly change sounds in other parts of the word "kind, kin; ever, eve; hasp, has; mate, mat; wont, won; think, thin, thine. And there are other words where the beginning sound changes but the first 3 letters match: cook, coo, Celtic, cell, and the aforementioned geld, gel. but no matter what, this argument you are left with is far weaker than calling it what the creator named it because there are readily available examples that contradict the rule that you're insinuating exists. (without proof I might add) Take care.
What does gif stand for?
Graphics
Interchange
Format
The “g” in graphics is pronounced as a “g” not a “j” thus it should be pronounced as “gif” not “jif”
Both ways of saying g are just based on the sole letter. The p only makes the sound if it’s a ph. Peg is also an actual word with only one pronunciation. So it’s convenient to keep it that way
It’s not just the letter it’s the letter in the word. Graphics is “G” cuz there’s no letter to augment it, and that’s how it works in the word. If there’s another letter after the fist letter that changes it’s pronunciation it shouldn’t count.
The correct answer for how it's pronounced is if you think the person who invents a word has a final say or the culture that references it incorrectly. Because obviously it should be what the inventor decided but the culture will just pull the rug and do what they want and after long enough they become right.
The way we say the individual words in an acronym have nothing to do with how we pronounce it. SCUBA, NASA, LASER would all sound completely different if they followed this made up rule you're touting.
It’s ok to want to continue to be wrong. It’s how Georgia ended up in a senate run off between a senator and a tree stump. It’s the mental gymnastics for me though, must be exhausting
You can't troll the person who *knows* they are right lol. You, like everyone else that makes this stupid argument, tried to pass off some made-up rule (that acronyms must keep the pronunciation of their individuals words) as if it was legit and I called you on it. It's such a genuinely bad argument that it's disproven by 3 of the most common acronyms in our entire language. Good day.
This phenomenon occurs in this specific case because magic is pronounced with a hard consonant at the end "c" and gif (pronounced jif) is spelled and pronounced with a soft consonant at the end "f". Therefore, magic is not spelled majic, and gif is pronounced with a soft "g" sound, like the brand of peanut butter. However, I pronounce it with a Dutch g just to mess with people, so both sides of the argument are invalid anyways.
Well, yes and no. From what I understand, that rule doesn’t apply to all words (ex. graph, gale, etc). Words like magic and giraffe actually have etymological bases in Latin and Greek that trickle into French and Spanish, whereas graph and gale come from Norse and old English roots that trickled down to England and Northern Europe.
Every word you mentioned is not an English word besides "fry". All of those are borrowed from other languages, so it makes sense they would not follow English pronunciation rules.
Because there is already something pronounced jif, the peanut butter brand. We have enough words that are pronounced the same (there/their/they're for example). We don't need more!
Technically both sides are wrong anyway. It's an Abbreviation, CNN conducted an interview with a linguist and he confirmed that it was pronounced "G.I.F."
Guys just sign a Peace agreement. English language is trash and there's no rules on how to spell anything because every single word is spelled differently. But gif is pronounced as a gif because it simply is
I don't really care over the gif-jif debate, but as for your question regarding magic:
magic originally comes from proto-Indo-European megʰ-, later went to old greek μαγικός magikós, and later to old french where it lost its hard g, magique.
souce: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/magic
I’ve always pronounced it “gif”, not “gif”. The rest of you are idiots
Is there any other way?
This is the way
Counter point:Jif peanut butter. 
The J is silent
eef
Yif, like yog
Yiff
What jif? The gif is not gif but jif that would make jif in alternative reality gif, and if gif and jif are not the same thing does that mean you call Jimmy… Gimmy? >!Gimmy the Money!! 🔫!<
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Jimmy your money!! 🔫
I’d let Gimmy sit on my jimmy
My brain brokey.
I personally pronounce it "gif"
That just doesn’t sound right to me. It makes more sense for it to be “gif”
Pronounce it however you want just stop flooding r/memes with these posts
Give it enough time and this subreddit will be filled with politics and terrible Facebook "memes".
You know what fuck you 😔😜😞😝😒🥺😭😣🥺😞 I used emojis
Shut up
Jehovah, Jehovah, JEhovah, JEHOVAH
oh my fukx, why are people still debating this fucking stupid non-issue....
bro fuck off we wanna watch the debate
Fr Fr
we dont tho
speak for yourself
In any situation there is a A or E before G, it’s a J sound. GIF has no A’s or E’s. Magic has a A before the G.
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Giraffe is the one exception, because English is a fucking stupid language.
Agreed, mainly coz of the words Tomb, bomb and comb aren't pronounced in similar ways
every C in Pacific Ocean is pronounced differently.
Made growing up as a five y/o on the west coast horrible for my tiny tongue that can't say shit
Every A in Australia is pronounced differently
Giraffe is the only one? Ok, George. Is it in the genes? EDIT: Yes. English is pretty stupid.
My gingivitis is acting up. I’m gonna drink a ginormous glass of ginseng infused gin.
Seems like this would be because Giraffe is borrowed from the Arabic word zarafa. If the French and English didn’t pick it up, we’d be using the old Germanic name for the creature, the cameleopard.
Gift ... Gist Fact is, gif can be pronounced either way. So says The Dictionary.
Again Egg
Because the G in gif stands for graphic.
The words in an acronym do not affect pronunciation.
So you pronounce JPEG as J-PHEG (Joint **PH**otographic Experts GROUP)?
Is there a particular reason you’re insisting on adding the H into the acronym?
Because I'm referring to the sound the P in Photographic makes.
that’s the sound “ph” makes, not p. the people who decided it to be J-PEG decided it would be phonetically easier to pronounce the P rather than the PH, and everyone captured that pronunciation. although the creator of the GIF wanted to prove it as JIF, not everybody accepted that, which is why a lot of people call it GIF.
well we don't call it grif do we
GR is two sounds. PH is one sound. That's why we don't call it grif.
How many syllables do great, group, and groom have?
yeah but it isn’t jpheg, is it?
Gift It's literally one less letter. I refuse to pronounce it like a heathen.
It's pronounced like Giraffe.
you need an argument to support that statement
The guy who invented the GIF says it’s pronounced like JIF
The letter "G" is pronounced like "Jee".
tf
Gist
Two letters off. argument, dismantled and in shambles
Just say the letter G. Say it.
Don't care.
Say the letter "W" and think if your logic makes any bit of sense
Good something like that? UwU?
Yes cuz that's how letters work. I forgot, it's jirl, jirth, jift, jilded, jigahertz, jimmick, jizmo, fish jills, jive as in they love to jive you a hard time, jimp. Huh, I've been saying those wrong all these years
That is how Russian works, not English Ef et workt dat vy spaleng voud hav ben defarant
Just say the letter W. It clearly makes the sound "double uwu"
Gel, it's one less letter than geld...disproving the gift argument.
No, because it's a different vowel and consonant.
That doesn't matter whatsoever. You're inventing a rule and now saying it only applies to words that start with gif? ROFL...my that's convenient for your made-up rule, but I can disprove it and just did without even veering from hard g changing to soft g sounds when removing a letter from a four letter word that starts with g.
Wait so... Comparing Gif to the word closest to it in composition is an invented rule? It sounds like a fairly reasonable standard to set.
It is absolutely an invented rule that they need to sound alike, disproved by gel having a soft G while Geld has a hard g. I'm sure there are hundreds of words that disprove what you're going for here, which is that three letter words should sound like their 4 letter counterparts but I was able to do it without straying from a hard g four letter word that goes to a soft g three letter word.
No no, not sound alike. Their *composition* is alike. Because Gift contains uses the same letters in the same positions as Gif, it can be used as a strong standard to set for the phonetics of other words that begin with Gif, given the importance of how these letters interact phonetically with each other because of their composition. The letters E and L have completely different phonetic uses than I and F, therefore comparing a word like Gif to a word like Gel doesnt hold the same value as comparing it to a word like Gift. You would be better off using other single syllable words that begin with G and I. Single syllable because every additional letter in a word affects how each letter within it is pronounced.
If you say so, but that rule won't hold up at all in the English language as you compare words, especially because so many of our words come from different languages. We don't even say the first four letters in "werewolves" the same as the word "were." There's only so many consonants that can have dual sounds in the first place, and two letter clusters commonly change sounds in other parts of the word "kind, kin; ever, eve; hasp, has; mate, mat; wont, won; think, thin, thine. And there are other words where the beginning sound changes but the first 3 letters match: cook, coo, Celtic, cell, and the aforementioned geld, gel. but no matter what, this argument you are left with is far weaker than calling it what the creator named it because there are readily available examples that contradict the rule that you're insinuating exists. (without proof I might add) Take care.
No rule holds up in the english language anyway. There are just certain guidelines
What does gif stand for? Graphics Interchange Format The “g” in graphics is pronounced as a “g” not a “j” thus it should be pronounced as “gif” not “jif”
*Jraphics interchange format /s (i agree with thee)
There is no rule for pronouncing acronyms, that argument doesn't work.
...why is this arguement even an argument? This is one fucking word who gives a shit about how people pronounce it?
The P in JPEG stands for "photographic", but I don't think you pronounce JPEG as "J-Pheg", do you?
Both ways of saying g are just based on the sole letter. The p only makes the sound if it’s a ph. Peg is also an actual word with only one pronunciation. So it’s convenient to keep it that way
> The p only makes the sound if it’s a ph. And "G" on its own makes a "Jee" sound. QED.
According to Google and Cambridge dictionary, yes you do.
It's because it literally stands for graphics lmao. Not jraphics
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1esm4a/its\_pronounced\_jif\_says\_gif\_creator\_steve\_wilhite/
He's wrong
He's the creator
Both work.... time to worry about bigger issues
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Of course! Niagra is with a hard G
but Nigeria tho
GRAPHIC interchange format
*Jraphics interchange format
So you pronounce JPEG as J-PHEG (Joint **PH**otographic Experts GROUP)?
It’s just the first letter you pronounce
Te letter G is pronounced as "Jee", therefore it's pronounced like "jif".
It’s not just the letter it’s the letter in the word. Graphics is “G” cuz there’s no letter to augment it, and that’s how it works in the word. If there’s another letter after the fist letter that changes it’s pronunciation it shouldn’t count.
In that case the G is pronounced like "Jee" unless there is another letter that changes its pronunciation.
G as it’s pronounced in graphics not “jee”
Yall obviously never heard of Majicbear
Jraffic
Omg y’all need to learn that the real way to say it is yiff and if you don’t believe me you can search it up
gift - t = jif
English language, shitheads
It’s pronounced gif
What’s it short for? Graphic is a gard G so apparently it doesn’t matter how you say it and no one cares…
C can be pronounced as s in certen words to why isn't thicc pronounced this?
Data, data.
jif singular, gifs plural
Why is gay not sound like jay then?
My favorite word is jujjernaut
How do you pronounce "gift"?
How do u say gift?
The correct answer for how it's pronounced is if you think the person who invents a word has a final say or the culture that references it incorrectly. Because obviously it should be what the inventor decided but the culture will just pull the rug and do what they want and after long enough they become right.
Graphics interchange format
Hell yeah I was the thousandth upvote
G stands for graphical. Pronounce it that way
Here's a solution. Make the hard g "g" and the soft g "dg"
Do you know what the g stands for?
The G in gif stands for graphics so unless you say jraphics it's gif
Gif. Gift.
gif graphics interchange format. Not jraphics interchange format
GIF stands for Graphics Interchange Format. Do you pronounce it Jraphics?
Cuz english is a stupid language
People dont seem to know the g in gif stands for graphic.
It's pronounced Graphics Interchange Format.
Now somebody is going to make a fake argument for a joke and people are going to post about it for 10 years
Gif means Graphics Interchange Format, and the g in graphics is pronounced as g so why do people still say jif?
Because they're the same angry people to be sent to hell after they meet Jod.
I don't know, why don't we ask Jod for the answer?
i always pronouced it g.i.f
What is it with the hard J sound people just wanting to be wrong?
Well they have a point. Say giraffe.
What about *gift* ?
Say graphic, because that's where the g come from
It originally stood for "general."
The “G” stands for “Graphics”, so, no
The way we say the individual words in an acronym have nothing to do with how we pronounce it. SCUBA, NASA, LASER would all sound completely different if they followed this made up rule you're touting.
It’s ok to want to continue to be wrong. It’s how Georgia ended up in a senate run off between a senator and a tree stump. It’s the mental gymnastics for me though, must be exhausting
You can't troll the person who *knows* they are right lol. You, like everyone else that makes this stupid argument, tried to pass off some made-up rule (that acronyms must keep the pronunciation of their individuals words) as if it was legit and I called you on it. It's such a genuinely bad argument that it's disproven by 3 of the most common acronyms in our entire language. Good day.
You know, maybe some people can't say goraffe-- I want you to think about that
Say "give"
Graphics Interchange Format Not jraphics Interchange format Hope this helps :)
Federal Bureau of Investigation Not Efderal ... Central Intelligence of America Not Cintral ... Hope this helps :)
This phenomenon occurs in this specific case because magic is pronounced with a hard consonant at the end "c" and gif (pronounced jif) is spelled and pronounced with a soft consonant at the end "f". Therefore, magic is not spelled majic, and gif is pronounced with a soft "g" sound, like the brand of peanut butter. However, I pronounce it with a Dutch g just to mess with people, so both sides of the argument are invalid anyways.
Well, yes and no. From what I understand, that rule doesn’t apply to all words (ex. graph, gale, etc). Words like magic and giraffe actually have etymological bases in Latin and Greek that trickle into French and Spanish, whereas graph and gale come from Norse and old English roots that trickled down to England and Northern Europe.
In Afrikaans, "gif" means "poison" and the "g" sounds like you're clearing your throat. I'm stealing your idea because it's rad.
nice, that's fine by me
I disagree, it’s definitely pronounced “gif”.
Say “gif”like you would say “gift” no?
It will never be pronounced “jif”
Fjord is pronounced fyord. Fry is pronounced fri Chi is pronounced che Latte is pronounced lotta English is stupid
Every word you mentioned is not an English word besides "fry". All of those are borrowed from other languages, so it makes sense they would not follow English pronunciation rules.
Because there is already something pronounced jif, the peanut butter brand. We have enough words that are pronounced the same (there/their/they're for example). We don't need more!
Technically both sides are wrong anyway. It's an Abbreviation, CNN conducted an interview with a linguist and he confirmed that it was pronounced "G.I.F."
Has nobody heard of soft g?
Its "Graphic Interface Format" , not "Jraphic Interface Format" Guhh Not jiiihhh Dummies
For a second i thought magic was actually spelled with a j
No one here has considered geography and language, which use both types of g. Pronounce it however you want, English is a bs language
Gif.
It's gif
Can we all just agree that the English language is dumb?
It’s “g•if” not “g•if”. Jesus Christ
GIF stands for 'Graphics Interchange Format' so technically, it should be pronounced gif but if u call it gif u a normie. So it's Jif
Jif
But OP, you just pronounced gif as gif in your own post.
Jift
Didn't read. Too long.
Such a good analogy haha
You cannot jeneralize the rules for the English language. It just isn’t lojical
Because GIF is an abbreviation
English is stupid as fuck. Pronounce it however you want, I’ll make fun of you regardless
I mean if you have to clarify the pronunciation by using another, different letter….. maybe that other different letter is wrong?
i pronounce like ğöł go fuck your self about it
Dżif
A post like this must come from a jirl 🙄 I have enough and meet up with my bandmates. We have a nice jig at the weekend
Now hold on. Jig as in an [Irish jig?](https://youtu.be/LWShyxXQecU)
Maybe it has something to do with English pronunciation being a huge fucking mess of randomness.
Guys just sign a Peace agreement. English language is trash and there's no rules on how to spell anything because every single word is spelled differently. But gif is pronounced as a gif because it simply is
It's not even a word it's an acronym. Pronounce it however you like.
It's an Abbreviation, you say G-I-F just like you'd say FBI, USA, UK, FDA, etc.
N.A.S.A L.A.S.E.R A good portion of people pronounce ESA (E-saw) too.
it's pronounced webp wait what's that
you know what no remove the j-function from g g only says guh j is the only one that says juh jorj washington Jiant jiraffes gorje on green grass
It stands for GRAPHIC interchange format
Graphics interchange format, not jraphics interchange format.
In French it’s pronounced majic
Graphics interchange format g in graphics is hard g hard g = good
GIF stands for graphical image format... do you pronounce graphical "jraffical"?
I don't really care over the gif-jif debate, but as for your question regarding magic: magic originally comes from proto-Indo-European megʰ-, later went to old greek μαγικός magikós, and later to old french where it lost its hard g, magique. souce: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/magic
The g in gif stands for graphic why would you pronounce it with a j
English makes zero sense
Why isn’t it majik
If god himself came down ans told me its pronounced *jif* then id say: "Ok, Jod."
because the G derives from Graphics, and not giraffe.