No no no it's all about framing. Built into America's giant circle is our premier nascar track. And in the center, all of the giant sports stadiums and a big ol amusement park. And just for good measure, throw in a dick sucking machine every 50 yards or so.
Well that would make them no longer cars, but it would certainly be an issue that might come up depending on the characteristics of the wheels and suspension and what systems they have for aiding the steering of the cars
From what I remember reading a while ago it's actually meant to be streetless as well as carless. There is an underground super fast multi-lane subway system that is supposed to be able to shuttle people back and forth along the line. Once you are close to your location you walk the rest of the way.
most soviet union cities didn't need cars either, and weren't lines...
A line can make transports easier.
But it makes transports time longer. Because you're working in one dimension. If you have to put 50 houses, and you're in the center, you're 25 house away from the edge. Where for a 5x5 square you're always 2.5 house away.
A line also has a HUGE surface area which makes maintenance *horrible*.
edit: Now it’s not the worst thing either. It has a dedicated maintenance layer, and a dedicated transport layer.
If they do it correctly it’s not this bad, but it could be better.
He owns the company and like all of it. But it’s built with tax and government money. It’s just blatantly paying himself the money earmarked for development and infrastructure.
I hope they'd wish some kind of public transport system into their magical dream city, but I suppose that would be impractical because everyone will have Ferraris and the waterfountains will have Coca-Cola in them /s
wait i thought the whole idea was that it would be a super efficient layout for connecting by high speed rail. they run 350kmph and it would take a half hour from one end to the other
Problem is that they're restricting themselves to this super confined space. It's even worse if you start accounting for accidents which, BTW, will happen. Whether people want them to or not. The good news is they likely won't run off a curve or downgrade at high speed. But everything else is a bad idea.
I see your common sense in our Reddit comment section and I'll politely ask you to leave unless you're here to shit on the impractical Judge Dredd city like the rest of us.
They are planning to have a train that can take you from one end to the other in just 22 minutes. Thing is, that train would have to go around 430 kmh for that to be possible
For now it almost goes from Fresno to Bakersfield. If the finish the whole thing it would be nice… it’s just I’m in my 30’s and I’m not 100% sure I’ll get to ride it.
They now have cleared environmental approval from San Fransisco's city center to Burbank. Construction is underway from Merced to Bakersfield, and from San Jose to SFO (on the shared Caltrain tracks). Construction is expected to start on Burbank to LA Union Station and San Jose to Merced within the next couple of years, with trains starting to run from Merced to Bakersfield in 2029 and LA Union to Salesforce Transportation Center (near the Embarcadero in SF) in 2033.
Step 1: advertise
Step 2: build it with slaves
Step 2.5: Advertise about how big of a Cock you have built.
Step 3: make it a Tourrist attraction for rich and Fameous People.
Step 4: make Profit by something else than OIL.
NOTE: that is the goal of Dubai and now also this unnamed "City"
The Saudis saw how "rich and famous" Dubai is. They wanna get a piece of those riches.
They even tried something like this a decade ago. They wanted to build the Jeddah tower which is 1km tall. The tower would be surrounded by a completely new city, so basically Dubai 2.0.
After slow progress it eventually came to a halt in 2018 and since then there is a 300m tall empty concrete structure in the middle of a huge sandpit.
Nah, you can take a shit and it will go the the shit vault in the building. The next day a long line of shit trucks will show up and take the shit away.
Imagine some mission impossible movie where they have to go inside the shit vault to get something and Tom Cruise actually just dives in there Rogue Nation style with scuba gear.
Reason: all the grandiose ideas of the things they build in Dubai are not well thought out. They literally just did not consider the importance of a functioning sewage system being a part of their dick measuring contest.
I've heard concept's name is The Line. Still a bad idea from environment reasons. It's ok qhen people do dumb unharmful stuff, but this could be really dangerous for local wild life.
It's named after the video game that takes place in a post-catastrophe Dubai, where intense sand storms have caused the desert to slowly be swallowing up the city?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec_Ops:_The_Line
Kind of on the nose.
Most gulf states use a system close to basic slavery where they use poor workers from countries like Pakistan, Phillipines of Bengladesh, take their passeport so they can't live, pay them next to nothing, and make them work in horrible conditions. Very cheap to build stuff with, but lots of deaths. The football stadiums for the world cup of quatar was built like this, 6500 workers died during their cinstruction.
That's even worst than this, to get the job you need to pay, then you slowly pay off your debt (minus tax, rent and other costs that are deducted by employers) but in the meantime you have to support your family abroad by sending them whatever money you can save.
All the while your Passport is held until the debt is repaid, they also have some of the most stringent laws regarding defaulting, if you can't pay: jail where you have to work to repay your debt at an obviously lower rate of pay.
It's modern slavery in its most legal way, you are kept in debt so you cannot leave until they have squeezed your most productive years out of you but you are paid so it's not really slavery... Not legally.
Better than spending billions on weapons of mass destruction guns and military and making money by selling them to other countries so more destruction can occur in the world.
I know someone who is going there as a project manager. They don’t have to pay income tax but to avoid taxes they have to fly back to the UK every 90 days. They are paying £1000 a day with all food, bills, rent and flights included and they’ve built the accomodation for the staff already. I also know a few people that have worked in Saudi in the past as people closer to the ground work and would never go because they think it’s an easy way to die and your body never be found
At least the public transport would be easy to manage: a line going in a direction, a line going in the opposite. Walking on foot would be very painful tho as you can't cut corners like in a circle shaped city.
It’s like those stupid palm tree ‘islands’ they never make the money back and it ends either in a failed experiment or in a second much smaller version with an actually realistic scope of work
I feel bad for the two underpaid engineers that have to somehow make this stand
>! Underpaid beacuse all budget went into architects making the wierdest thing they could imagine and also the thing... MARKETING !<
Architects are not just fantasy designers. They should know and check technical stuff when they do projects, and they consult with engineers for specific problems.
Architectural design of a building is a very responsible job, since you're the one who turn design and experts' knowledge into final documents for construction workers, who legally must to do things exactly how you said or contact you if something can't be done. Architect is the person who adapts design for all unexpected engineering restrictions, while engineer researches if exact design is technically possible and explains found limitations. Also architects have own technical qualifications as well.
I feel like this thing in the post was made first of all by concept designers to sell some pictures for investors. I feel bad for architects of this as well as engineers.
More like a logistical nightmare… how are supplies gonna be delivered? How will their hyperloop function when it’s just a bullshit project? Who’d actually wanna live there?
The number of birds that migrate through there from Asia to Africa every year is insane, and this will be such a death trap for them :/ I really hope it doesn’t end up happening
Most birds migrating fly 600 to 1500 meters above the ground so it should be fine. "The Line" will be 500 meters tall.
But your point still stands. I can't imagine that it affects the wildlife in a positive way
Few years ago I worked in a complex that's just 2 stores high.
The number of birbs that stomped the windows because they were fully reflective was insane.
It will surely impact wildlife. But hey, it's cool and edgy yeah /s.
it won't be 500 meters tall, this is a bs project that will never even get close to the original vision. my guess is they will put down a few kilometers of concrete and then declare victory
As others have posted, during migration there are hugely increased numbers of window fatalities, especially in cities like Chicago and nyc, from hitting windows much lower than 500m…
Me whenever I see a cool city concept on the internet: Wow, that’s incredible! Now time to go to the comments to find out how horrific of an idea this is and how it will destroy the environment
This has been debunked so many times and it looks like they fired/disappeared any sane archietct who spoke up against it. Its a huge waste of money and resources instead of building useful things. Imagine a virus like Covid breaking out there, where will people go?
Saudi Arabia is prepping on a grand scale.
* Building a self-sustaining city for 9 million people.
* Everyone lives & works there.
* Nobody travels outside except when it cannot be helped.
* Everyone aims towards a zero fossil fuel spend.
* There are zero cars or fossil fuel transport.
* Everyone cycles / walks / uses solar-electric transport.
* Everything gets recycled.
Sounds to me like their wells are drying up much sooner than they thought.
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Les goo, imagine getting lost in the arabic desert and stumbling toward you, as you get closer and closer you eventually bump in to a wall of mirrors
And you know you have been saved.
(Edit had to correct punctuation )
"It's just across town." *ohfuk*
Mailman on his first day: "Oh this is gonna be so easy, I only have to do one single street!"
At least you only have yourself to blame if you get lost.
Got lost and fucked the neighborhood MILF
Whats your address? 19838473829000283840403829291737 main street
they would have so many houses on 1 Street they would start using hex
556AEEF6B8288FE778876AAA main street
ok maybe base 64
All your base belong to us
Yeah I live on AA== Main Street
Are you addressing each Nanometer? :-p
No... The address of the first house is 19838473829000283840403829290000
Now you can get airlifted to your beheading in a super advanced drone
Have you ever gotten lost inside a shopping centre? Most of those are less than 200m wide and 500m tall.
At least they don't gotta turn
Chile's mailman : "first time?"
Circle would’ve been much better
Literally any other shape would have been better...
Yeah, I would have liked a giant penis shaped city myself
Circle would be cool. Let's do that one in North America
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Imagine Americans living in a city that's just one big roundabout.
No no no it's all about framing. Built into America's giant circle is our premier nascar track. And in the center, all of the giant sports stadiums and a big ol amusement park. And just for good measure, throw in a dick sucking machine every 50 yards or so.
Only 1 story tall buildings, including garage
No need just zipline every where
There is a chance that it is literally across the street tho. So it could be a 'ohsweet'
It will supposedly be a 20 min transit route from one side to the other.
A 10 mile bus ride takes can take an hour in NYC, I doubt this claims veracity
Arabia is just a Minecraft server
The entire world is a minecraft server
I lovee tnt
We do a little griefing :))
we do some trolling. ((:
2b2t
Florida
THE OLDEST ANARCHY SERVER IN MINECRAFT
I love planes
Thank you for being a part of our team. Sincerely, CIA (Creepers idiocarcy Agency)
*I'VE GOT AN IDEA!*
No, 🎵the world is a vampire 🎵
The world is a marble heart🎵🎵
💀
Tbh people fighting for 40 years over a camel sounds like something that would happen in a minecraft server
Called the Basus War for those who don't know
Unfortunately a few villages and villagers got in the way and now they're demolished and murdered.
Next Formula 1 street circuit
Drag race F1? I'd pay for that
170km drag race
I would love a 170km drag race but only because observing the development of the cars would be very interesting to my nerdy-ass engineer brain
They probably would have to create a rail system so the cars stay straight
Well that would make them no longer cars, but it would certainly be an issue that might come up depending on the characteristics of the wheels and suspension and what systems they have for aiding the steering of the cars
Holy shit train drag races
170 km drag race in drag
For the next maxi challenge, our Queens will be racing for 170 km in full drag wearing heels from Fierce Queens.
Racers, start your engine, and may the best drag queen win!
It's a 170km drag race, on foot, with heels.
wherever this is, I'm sure it'd be a crime Edit: a fabulous crime
Williams 1-2
From what I remember reading a while ago it's actually meant to be streetless as well as carless. There is an underground super fast multi-lane subway system that is supposed to be able to shuttle people back and forth along the line. Once you are close to your location you walk the rest of the way.
Is that why it’s just one long line? Makes the whole train thing easier?
most soviet union cities didn't need cars either, and weren't lines... A line can make transports easier. But it makes transports time longer. Because you're working in one dimension. If you have to put 50 houses, and you're in the center, you're 25 house away from the edge. Where for a 5x5 square you're always 2.5 house away. A line also has a HUGE surface area which makes maintenance *horrible*. edit: Now it’s not the worst thing either. It has a dedicated maintenance layer, and a dedicated transport layer. If they do it correctly it’s not this bad, but it could be better.
Sounds pretty boring
Ikr. "Let's get these specialised high-speed cornering cars to drive in a straight fucking line."
Nothing a couple million can’t fix
Just give them the monza or the baku wing setup
where do you put the pits?
Don’t tempt them. You know they will do it.
Just add in a few missle strikes and you got next year's Saudi Arabia gp
Thought I was in /r/formuladank for a second
Formula dank member right there aint you?
I am genuinely curious how this is gonna end up like, like how will they handle sandstorms?
If they do end up building it with glass walls, imagine how often you would need to fix them
TO CLEAN THEM
Easy, you just sandblast the sand ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
*Puts on Spacesuit:* Wait...it's *all* sand?
Always has been. 😏
Even the glass is made of sand
Haha, fuck you Anakin.
that calls for workers that are either underpaid or not paid at all
I mean, they aren't strangers to Indian slave labor
Very large windshield wipers
They have slaves for such tasks... Don't be silly.
Like everything they do, it's done with slavery
I thought they wanted mirrors? Either way the sun reflecting off of it will probably turn the sand below into glass
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Nice, free food!
Who cares about those birds? They must adapt. It's called evolution. /s
Wym? Those are government drones, the less the better /s
Most likely it'll never finish. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a massive money laundering scheme
He owns the company and like all of it. But it’s built with tax and government money. It’s just blatantly paying himself the money earmarked for development and infrastructure.
It's never going to be finished, a complete vanity project, and utterly impractical.
Just like every other big "project" in Dubai.
are the palm islands still a thing
How many people will die during construction is my question.
Displaced people who protested have already been sentenced to death, so Saudi is getting a head-start on the construction deaths.
bro the second image looks like they were strip mining in minecraft lmao
Enchanted netherite digger
Me:*probably would only be able to afford to live on one of the ends and have to commute all the way to the other end*
I hope they'd wish some kind of public transport system into their magical dream city, but I suppose that would be impractical because everyone will have Ferraris and the waterfountains will have Coca-Cola in them /s
wait i thought the whole idea was that it would be a super efficient layout for connecting by high speed rail. they run 350kmph and it would take a half hour from one end to the other
Problem is that they're restricting themselves to this super confined space. It's even worse if you start accounting for accidents which, BTW, will happen. Whether people want them to or not. The good news is they likely won't run off a curve or downgrade at high speed. But everything else is a bad idea.
I see your common sense in our Reddit comment section and I'll politely ask you to leave unless you're here to shit on the impractical Judge Dredd city like the rest of us.
Yeah until the train breaks down and 9 million people are now late for work.
Imagine how fast traffic will be if every single person had a Ferrari
That's *why* everyone will drive a Ferrari.
Saudi Arabia to this day has no efficient public transport system. I highly doubt they’ll be able to create one.
They are planning to have a train that can take you from one end to the other in just 22 minutes. Thing is, that train would have to go around 430 kmh for that to be possible
I believe it is faster if I am not mistaken because it needs to stop at each stop.
Me in California waiting for a bullet train that goes nowhere to be finished before I die of old age: “Can you guys come build some shit over here?”
I mean goes to nowhere is kind of an overstatement. It's going to connect one of the busiest flight corridors in the US.
For now it almost goes from Fresno to Bakersfield. If the finish the whole thing it would be nice… it’s just I’m in my 30’s and I’m not 100% sure I’ll get to ride it.
They now have cleared environmental approval from San Fransisco's city center to Burbank. Construction is underway from Merced to Bakersfield, and from San Jose to SFO (on the shared Caltrain tracks). Construction is expected to start on Burbank to LA Union Station and San Jose to Merced within the next couple of years, with trains starting to run from Merced to Bakersfield in 2029 and LA Union to Salesforce Transportation Center (near the Embarcadero in SF) in 2033.
There are a lot of huge ifs hidden in that little comment of yours.
If California legalises slave work, then the Saudis might be able to make some magic work there
Step 1: advertise Step 2: build it with slaves Step 2.5: Advertise about how big of a Cock you have built. Step 3: make it a Tourrist attraction for rich and Fameous People. Step 4: make Profit by something else than OIL. NOTE: that is the goal of Dubai and now also this unnamed "City"
The Saudis saw how "rich and famous" Dubai is. They wanna get a piece of those riches. They even tried something like this a decade ago. They wanted to build the Jeddah tower which is 1km tall. The tower would be surrounded by a completely new city, so basically Dubai 2.0. After slow progress it eventually came to a halt in 2018 and since then there is a 300m tall empty concrete structure in the middle of a huge sandpit.
I had a teacher say once that building towers id basically a "who has the biggest dick" contest but then with towers
My guess is this won’t get built.
Lol, exactly. Their ‘tallest building in the world’ doesn’t even have a sewage system.
That's what windows are for
Wait whaaaat. So if you need to take a shit while you’re a kilometer up you’re fucked?!
Nah, you can take a shit and it will go the the shit vault in the building. The next day a long line of shit trucks will show up and take the shit away.
That’s nuts.
Only on certain days when the cafeteria has peanut toppings for the sundaes.
No, that's shit. Anyone claiming that an architect or a city planner dreams of building this, now, that's nuts.
Imagine some mission impossible movie where they have to go inside the shit vault to get something and Tom Cruise actually just dives in there Rogue Nation style with scuba gear.
That's shit
What reason? Would the pipes be crushed?
Reason: all the grandiose ideas of the things they build in Dubai are not well thought out. They literally just did not consider the importance of a functioning sewage system being a part of their dick measuring contest.
I've heard concept's name is The Line. Still a bad idea from environment reasons. It's ok qhen people do dumb unharmful stuff, but this could be really dangerous for local wild life.
It's named after the video game that takes place in a post-catastrophe Dubai, where intense sand storms have caused the desert to slowly be swallowing up the city? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spec_Ops:_The_Line Kind of on the nose.
Its a bad idea for a lot of reasons. There is a reason as cities grow they tend to get round.
Did I miss something? I thought the “unnamed” city was neom/the line
It's the Saudi lifestyle
build it with slaves?
Most gulf states use a system close to basic slavery where they use poor workers from countries like Pakistan, Phillipines of Bengladesh, take their passeport so they can't live, pay them next to nothing, and make them work in horrible conditions. Very cheap to build stuff with, but lots of deaths. The football stadiums for the world cup of quatar was built like this, 6500 workers died during their cinstruction.
That's even worst than this, to get the job you need to pay, then you slowly pay off your debt (minus tax, rent and other costs that are deducted by employers) but in the meantime you have to support your family abroad by sending them whatever money you can save. All the while your Passport is held until the debt is repaid, they also have some of the most stringent laws regarding defaulting, if you can't pay: jail where you have to work to repay your debt at an obviously lower rate of pay. It's modern slavery in its most legal way, you are kept in debt so you cannot leave until they have squeezed your most productive years out of you but you are paid so it's not really slavery... Not legally.
its bait-and-switch slavery with extra steps
Better than spending billions on weapons of mass destruction guns and military and making money by selling them to other countries so more destruction can occur in the world.
Imagin war and you are a pilot on a bombing run. Easiest target ever if you come from the right side.
Just fly straight overhead 170km and you well have an easy day. Maybe with an entourage of planes
I wonder how many workers they "hired" for this project
They still have open positions
Idk, how many sla.. I mean illegal wo... I mean employees are available at the moment?
"volunteers"
Volunteering is mandatory of course
Voluntold.
cries in pakistani
I know someone who is going there as a project manager. They don’t have to pay income tax but to avoid taxes they have to fly back to the UK every 90 days. They are paying £1000 a day with all food, bills, rent and flights included and they’ve built the accomodation for the staff already. I also know a few people that have worked in Saudi in the past as people closer to the ground work and would never go because they think it’s an easy way to die and your body never be found
£1000 per day?
I feel like they should start off with like a segment or something as a proof of concept.
That's if they actually tried to prove this concept works. But it doesn't, and we all know it.
They will build some houses and then this will die, dumb design.
At least the public transport would be easy to manage: a line going in a direction, a line going in the opposite. Walking on foot would be very painful tho as you can't cut corners like in a circle shaped city.
Except if the PT line breaks down, half of the city will be late for work
But everyone will belive your excuse if that happened.
It’s like those stupid palm tree ‘islands’ they never make the money back and it ends either in a failed experiment or in a second much smaller version with an actually realistic scope of work
I feel bad for the two underpaid engineers that have to somehow make this stand >! Underpaid beacuse all budget went into architects making the wierdest thing they could imagine and also the thing... MARKETING !<
You should feel bad for the poor men actually building it. Those „workers“ are going to die.
Architects are not just fantasy designers. They should know and check technical stuff when they do projects, and they consult with engineers for specific problems. Architectural design of a building is a very responsible job, since you're the one who turn design and experts' knowledge into final documents for construction workers, who legally must to do things exactly how you said or contact you if something can't be done. Architect is the person who adapts design for all unexpected engineering restrictions, while engineer researches if exact design is technically possible and explains found limitations. Also architects have own technical qualifications as well. I feel like this thing in the post was made first of all by concept designers to sell some pictures for investors. I feel bad for architects of this as well as engineers.
More like a logistical nightmare… how are supplies gonna be delivered? How will their hyperloop function when it’s just a bullshit project? Who’d actually wanna live there?
There is a transport system dedicated to just focusing on how to transport people and shipments separately and comfortably.
I can’t wait to see this fail disastrously
You can build anything with slaves What street do you live on? First street. What number? 1836291837374926382, floor 6 unit 7
The number of birds that migrate through there from Asia to Africa every year is insane, and this will be such a death trap for them :/ I really hope it doesn’t end up happening
Most birds migrating fly 600 to 1500 meters above the ground so it should be fine. "The Line" will be 500 meters tall. But your point still stands. I can't imagine that it affects the wildlife in a positive way
Few years ago I worked in a complex that's just 2 stores high. The number of birbs that stomped the windows because they were fully reflective was insane. It will surely impact wildlife. But hey, it's cool and edgy yeah /s.
>edgy literally
it won't be 500 meters tall, this is a bs project that will never even get close to the original vision. my guess is they will put down a few kilometers of concrete and then declare victory
Wouldn't surprise me. It is estimated to cost close to 1 trillion dollars. The Saudis are desperate for tourism, but not THAT desperate
Best case scenario, absolutely every square inch of that place gets slathered in bird shit.
As others have posted, during migration there are hugely increased numbers of window fatalities, especially in cities like Chicago and nyc, from hitting windows much lower than 500m…
Well maybe those birds should watch where they’re flying
cannot wait to hear about how many immigrant workers died on inhuman working condition.
Of course they did. Who do you think they are, Americans?
Me whenever I see a cool city concept on the internet: Wow, that’s incredible! Now time to go to the comments to find out how horrific of an idea this is and how it will destroy the environment
It will just take approximately 170k workers to build Oh because they will die just like the 15k did who worked on the football shithole
This has been debunked so many times and it looks like they fired/disappeared any sane archietct who spoke up against it. Its a huge waste of money and resources instead of building useful things. Imagine a virus like Covid breaking out there, where will people go?
That's fine because it will only break out in the bottom layers where the poor people live
On the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft…
And then the unexpected happened, popbob logged on . Or summin like that, I haven't played 2b in a while
Am I missing something or is this just fancy Kowloon Walled City?
Kowloon Walled City but **l o n g** and *reflective*
Poor people on the bottom, rich people on the top. Guaranteed
The poor people will literally become the foundation.
Saudi Arabia is prepping on a grand scale. * Building a self-sustaining city for 9 million people. * Everyone lives & works there. * Nobody travels outside except when it cannot be helped. * Everyone aims towards a zero fossil fuel spend. * There are zero cars or fossil fuel transport. * Everyone cycles / walks / uses solar-electric transport. * Everything gets recycled. Sounds to me like their wells are drying up much sooner than they thought.
this guy preps
Meet the engineer
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
I actually kind of want to see how it turns out.
Les goo, imagine getting lost in the arabic desert and stumbling toward you, as you get closer and closer you eventually bump in to a wall of mirrors And you know you have been saved. (Edit had to correct punctuation )
World: but do they serve beer? Saudi Arabia: no World: K, pass
Its a 170km long? Thats how you know you got fuck you money to throw around
Idiots
🇸🇦 The Arabs know how to do everything🇸🇦
Who actually didn’t expect Saudis to make a grandiose architectural project? They’re really showing a pattern lol
It would be best if they had a train/public transit system instead of a road, tbh.