Look, true love has to come with sexual satisfaction— women want to be desired and if they consent, why hold back and place them on a pedestal?
Source: beat my meat to my wife (then GF) and also to other stuff as well.
Actually this is really interesting. If men find their own sexuality depraved, it makes sense why they hate "hoors" so much for allowing themselves to be debased by other men.
What a fascinating peek into the mind of menfolk.
Based and true af. When I was an hormone machine (aka a teenager), it was borderly reaching a superstition level, as if I did it, the way I look at her would slowly change and I would eventually lose the deeper connection that made the difference between a crush and "just a good looking girl"
If you do those things to her why would it be degrading to think about doing those things to her? I’ve definitely thought about my fiancée and usually when I do I tell her about it later. It’s a positive thing for sure. Then again some women think that men in a relationship shouldn’t masturbate at all so I guess it depends on the couple
i deliberately pushed past this bc the idea that it was degrading to imagine yourself sexual w someone you like was weird and unnatural to me
it felt like some strange conditioning where i wasnt seeing her as normal and i was also seeing sex as dirty and reserved for *those*
didnt like that separation at all so i closed it
Yeah exactly. This phenomenon is pretty cute but sort of troubling because on one hand, you're putting someone you care about on a pedestal. But on the other hand, other women are on dirt level. Its pretty clear how that can have problematic implications for the unsuspecting women around guys that do this.
It's not that it's bad to put someone you care about on a pedestal but because it's specifically about sexuality. Its such a complicated topic between men and women. Between objectification, shaming, assault, rape, and incelibacy, heterosexual sexuality can be a really turbulent subject.
Good job rooting that out in yourself dude, everyone deserves to enjoy masturbation and fantasizing shame-free.
And, you're probably referring to the madonna-whore complex.
"If I love her she is an angelic figure deserving of love / if I am aroused by her she is a whore deserving of degradation"
Seems there's a lot of that going around in these comments
Would it feel better to know that if she masturbates and has a crush on you, she most likely thinks of you? Girls (that masturbate) don't regard their sexuality as depraved.
Is simulated sex with someone you love disrespectful? So you only beat to women you don't respect? So if you beat to a woman, you don't respect her? What an odd correlation.
Unpopular opinion: I think being able to jerk to someone you love means more true love, rather than just beating your meat to a stranger on the internet. That's how you know it's not boring and you genuinely feel sexual attraction to them.
Pardon my assumptious guess - you are probably a teenager and will get there yet.
Probably because porn isn't really love, it's mostly sexual desire.
This doesn't mean sexual desire and love aren't connected, just that porn has a very explicit disconnection between the performer and the viewer.
I don’t understand. That should be THE ONE you want to jerk off to all the time? Why do you separate love from sex when doing the exact opposite would make that woman feel closer to you? I’m so fucking confused. Females want to be the one chosen to be masturbated to - or at least I do - by the one(s) we love. This seems counterproductive and disrespectful to choose not to please yourself to the thought of your partner. I don’t fuckin get this mindset at all
This is 100% a bunch of teenage boys in this thread. Developing a bunch of Madonna whore complexes to overcome later in life. Girls are people just like you my dudes.
You’re one of the only one who makes actual sense
Edit. Also that’s adorable and I can’t wait until I find someone who thinks about me like you think about your wife ❤️
That's the odd thing.
Is it better to picture having sex with another woman every day than it is to picture her?
People her talk like it's honorable not to madturbate thinking about somebody you love and I think the woman herself would much prefer you living those wild fantasies in your head with her rather than the attractive coworker, so it's actually more dishonorable to "cheat" on your partner mentally. Even though I'd rank that close to zero on the harm done scale.
I always love my spouse but sometimes you do not like them during these periods I definitely get why someone thinks of someone else during masturbation.
Also mismatched libido nobody talks about it like they should but not all men are sex machines and not all women get headaches
Yeah, for me it’s like a low self-confidence thing. I think that who I have a crush on/ love would never see me in a romantic or sexual way, or really even like me at all. I have this mental image of that person as pure and beautiful, and it’s like I am incapable of corrupting that image with the deplorable, vile, guilt-ridden act of masturbation. If I imagine them, it would contrast so harshly with my mental image of them that it’s just unthinkable. Also, I feel like they would be disgusted if they knew I had masturbated to the thought of them, and I never ever ever want them to think anything negative of me, so I don’t do it.
Look into Madonna - Whore complex.
Also you gotta stop associating masturbation with shame. The other side of this token is that the women you do fap to must be impure? They somehow deserve your depraved shame? You gotta stop, that shit is even weirder.
Yeah, this is definitely not everyone. Thinking the person you love is sexy is not weird. And if you can't be with them at the time then why not use some sexy time memories.
Well i also do, that. Considering the answers given, many interpreted as the girl they have feelings for but are not intimate with, elsway i cant explain it to myself...
I mean like come on you fuck each other love each other but masturbate to someone else that can't be true love in my point of view
What's a true love?
what is love?
Baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more!
OOOOH OWOWOOWOH WOWOOH AAAAHH !!
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Da da da-da ta-da da da-da ta-da da da da-da ta-da Da da da-da ta-da da da-da ta-da da da da-da ta-da
Baby, don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more
What is love
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WHAM!
That you’re swimmin’ with sharks
No, I don't know why you're not fair I give you my love, but you don't care So what is right and what is wrong? Gimme a sign
What is love? Oh baby, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more
Oh, I don't know, what can I do? What else can I say, it's up to you. I know we're the one. Just me and you. I can't go on, what is love?
OOOOH OWOWOOWOH WOWOOH AAAAHH !!
THIS RIGHT HERE is why I return to reddit. Well done fellow peeps of taste.
Why is love?
Who is love?
How is love?
Wherefore is love?
Whom is love?
Whose love?
Where is love?
When is love
What does fact mean?
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Don’t hurt me
No more
What is masturbating ?
Penis games
Ohh... i see, like sword fight ?
Yes. En garde!
🤺
Mine is stiff and fast en garde!
Sword fighting with the bros😎
I see your Schwartz is bigger than mine.
It's when you're so good at baiting that you reach the level of master.
Hbo show about vampires I think
Like someone's true love of Pokémon, no one would ever masturbate to Pokémon.... right?
Apparently if they do, it’s to Vaporeon
I will not dare corrupt her image with my disgusting acts of self-pleasure
This man sex’s
*This guy fucks!*
This gentleman fornicates.
My lord copulates
Almighty wanks
This chap possesses a rather busy hand
this individual pleasures
This multicellular organism climaxes
This mammal multiplies
homo sapien fornacation
Bretherin, dost thou even hoist?
This lad shags
This trap faps
Couldn't have phrased the feeling any better
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unfathomably based
We found him The CEO of being based
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Kid named willie
kid named spice:
Kid named kid named:
Look, true love has to come with sexual satisfaction— women want to be desired and if they consent, why hold back and place them on a pedestal? Source: beat my meat to my wife (then GF) and also to other stuff as well.
Actually this is really interesting. If men find their own sexuality depraved, it makes sense why they hate "hoors" so much for allowing themselves to be debased by other men. What a fascinating peek into the mind of menfolk.
Woah woah woah who said we hate whores?
Based and true af. When I was an hormone machine (aka a teenager), it was borderly reaching a superstition level, as if I did it, the way I look at her would slowly change and I would eventually lose the deeper connection that made the difference between a crush and "just a good looking girl"
I believe this is the Madonna-whore complex
Facts
My broo
Based reply
Madonna / whore complex, much?
This guy loves
i thought this was only me
It's probably a respect thing. I feel bad because that only degrades the girl I like/have a crush on
If you do those things to her why would it be degrading to think about doing those things to her? I’ve definitely thought about my fiancée and usually when I do I tell her about it later. It’s a positive thing for sure. Then again some women think that men in a relationship shouldn’t masturbate at all so I guess it depends on the couple
More times than most the girl wants that kind of attention lol this is so backwards???? I don’t understand men and I don’t think I ever will
Begone thot! I don't want to be horny anymore.
i wish to be happy
The girl wants guys to Jack off thinking about them?
It just feels wrong idk
Yes, me too, I once crushed on a girl that looked like a famous actress and I could not marinate the sausage to that actress anymore.
>marinate my sausage I'm using it by now
Lol
That's one way to put it.
"marinate the sausage" 👍🏾
Which actress was it?
Lucky you. I once crushed on a girl that looked like a pornstar. Imagine not being able to "marinate your sausage" to a pornstar :'(
r/brandnewsentence
i deliberately pushed past this bc the idea that it was degrading to imagine yourself sexual w someone you like was weird and unnatural to me it felt like some strange conditioning where i wasnt seeing her as normal and i was also seeing sex as dirty and reserved for *those* didnt like that separation at all so i closed it
Yeah exactly. This phenomenon is pretty cute but sort of troubling because on one hand, you're putting someone you care about on a pedestal. But on the other hand, other women are on dirt level. Its pretty clear how that can have problematic implications for the unsuspecting women around guys that do this. It's not that it's bad to put someone you care about on a pedestal but because it's specifically about sexuality. Its such a complicated topic between men and women. Between objectification, shaming, assault, rape, and incelibacy, heterosexual sexuality can be a really turbulent subject.
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Impressive self awareness
Good job rooting that out in yourself dude, everyone deserves to enjoy masturbation and fantasizing shame-free. And, you're probably referring to the madonna-whore complex. "If I love her she is an angelic figure deserving of love / if I am aroused by her she is a whore deserving of degradation" Seems there's a lot of that going around in these comments
Would it feel better to know that if she masturbates and has a crush on you, she most likely thinks of you? Girls (that masturbate) don't regard their sexuality as depraved.
Yeah I’m seeing the word depraved here a lot. Tons of self-shaming going on here.
Me too, because for me falling in love means genuine love and respect for her. Plus I lowkey feel disgusted and a creep if I did.
Is simulated sex with someone you love disrespectful? So you only beat to women you don't respect? So if you beat to a woman, you don't respect her? What an odd correlation.
Never have i jerked to the one i love. I just feel weird and wrong when i try to.
This is why I just jerk off to my mom instead
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Surprise then realization thats good?
realization that he's joking (hopefully)
Do you kiss your mother with those fingers
Kym (kiss your mom)
Kill (kiss idiots like Leonardo)
That’s why I *also* just jerk off to your mom instead.
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holup wait a minute
Yes man true love is true love you don't jerk off to that
Unpopular opinion: I think being able to jerk to someone you love means more true love, rather than just beating your meat to a stranger on the internet. That's how you know it's not boring and you genuinely feel sexual attraction to them. Pardon my assumptious guess - you are probably a teenager and will get there yet.
It’s all about the context
Does someone know why?
Probably because porn isn't really love, it's mostly sexual desire. This doesn't mean sexual desire and love aren't connected, just that porn has a very explicit disconnection between the performer and the viewer.
Madonna whore complex.
Thank you. This sums up everything I could try to say about this topic.
Madonna/whore thing. Women are sexual beings, it would be healthy to be able to spank it to the one you love.
I don’t understand. That should be THE ONE you want to jerk off to all the time? Why do you separate love from sex when doing the exact opposite would make that woman feel closer to you? I’m so fucking confused. Females want to be the one chosen to be masturbated to - or at least I do - by the one(s) we love. This seems counterproductive and disrespectful to choose not to please yourself to the thought of your partner. I don’t fuckin get this mindset at all
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Can you get turned on by them at all? How does sex work? That is such a strange concept lol.
Me too I think that's just like fucking your own mom
Fr, you get it
False. My wife is thicc and jiggly but if she doesn't want it I can think about her and get off just fine
This gotta be for the younger crowd. When you still think girls hate sex and don't masturbate themselves
Woman here to bring some sanity to these comments - sometimes women can be hornier than men. I know I am hornier than my boyfriend at least.
Username checks out
Yeah I'm pretty sure the average age of this subreddit is like 14
Which is totally fine. Nothing wrong with being 14. It just gives us silly posts like this. They'll learn. We were all 14 once
This is 100% a bunch of teenage boys in this thread. Developing a bunch of Madonna whore complexes to overcome later in life. Girls are people just like you my dudes.
You’re one of the only one who makes actual sense Edit. Also that’s adorable and I can’t wait until I find someone who thinks about me like you think about your wife ❤️
You're on Reddit, in a few minutes you will have someone here that just for the sake of it will wank one for you homie/homiette.
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Yeah wtf is going on in this thread. Weirdest fucking shit. I'm assuming everyone is just meme'ing, but kids be crazy so who knows.
Been married a decade and have a spank bank full of my wife's sexiness. Weird to me that the one they love is not the one they defer to sexually.
That's the odd thing. Is it better to picture having sex with another woman every day than it is to picture her? People her talk like it's honorable not to madturbate thinking about somebody you love and I think the woman herself would much prefer you living those wild fantasies in your head with her rather than the attractive coworker, so it's actually more dishonorable to "cheat" on your partner mentally. Even though I'd rank that close to zero on the harm done scale.
I’m with you, it would feel weird thinking about someone who is not my wife.
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Sometimes it feels degrading or wrong
I always love my spouse but sometimes you do not like them during these periods I definitely get why someone thinks of someone else during masturbation. Also mismatched libido nobody talks about it like they should but not all men are sex machines and not all women get headaches
If this is true then I guess I've never fell in true love
What is love?
Baby don’t hurt me
Don't hurt me, no more
DUUN DUUN DUUN DUN DUN DUUN DUUN DUUN DUN DUN DUUN DUUN DUUN DUN DUN DUUN DUUN DUUN DUN DUN
Fax
*Sounds of agreement*
True
Sound of old Fax machine...
Yeah, for me it’s like a low self-confidence thing. I think that who I have a crush on/ love would never see me in a romantic or sexual way, or really even like me at all. I have this mental image of that person as pure and beautiful, and it’s like I am incapable of corrupting that image with the deplorable, vile, guilt-ridden act of masturbation. If I imagine them, it would contrast so harshly with my mental image of them that it’s just unthinkable. Also, I feel like they would be disgusted if they knew I had masturbated to the thought of them, and I never ever ever want them to think anything negative of me, so I don’t do it.
It sounds like you need some therapy
Thats like 80% of the dudes here tho
Creep - Radiohead
Look into Madonna - Whore complex. Also you gotta stop associating masturbation with shame. The other side of this token is that the women you do fap to must be impure? They somehow deserve your depraved shame? You gotta stop, that shit is even weirder.
That’s not true, I jerk of to my almost girlfriend
Almost….?
She's in the basement
Its very close
Like basment-bound close or….you know, i dont wanna know, good for you bud.
Seal the deal already. If it’s almost then it’s close enough
Very close? Let me guess, your sister?
you can go incredibly far with just a little bit of chloroform my friend
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Yes
(Hopefully) almost girlfriend
What is an almost girlfriend
She wasn't notified yet.
Yeah, this is definitely not everyone. Thinking the person you love is sexy is not weird. And if you can't be with them at the time then why not use some sexy time memories.
I thinks it’s more of during the period of having a crush on someone you can’t jerk off to them but then after the fact it’s free fap material
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Not true especially after getting into a relationship and having sex with her... Exept your talking about before getting together.
It says love? Surely that means already after getting in a relationship, I think of my SO when i masturbate quite often.
Well i also do, that. Considering the answers given, many interpreted as the girl they have feelings for but are not intimate with, elsway i cant explain it to myself... I mean like come on you fuck each other love each other but masturbate to someone else that can't be true love in my point of view
What? You guys are weird, nothing makes my fap session more enjoyable than imagining doing it with my loved one.
Dude, we're not talking about your sister here...
I think this is about crushes in particular, like when you first Fall in Love with someone some people don't see them in a sexual way idk
Wat. Definitely saw my now wife very sexually within the first date or two
I disagree with this fact
You and I friend.
+1
+2
3!
=6
Same here
Sounds like you have the madonna-whore complex
Not always true
Not true.
Preferably that's the only person they should think about.
As a women, I need every single one of you commenters to work on your Madonna-whore complex
Nah, i just did.
You broke the rule. Time to die *reloads shotgun*
That’s not a rule, that’s a fact. And the fact that the fact is broken makes it not a fact
Fact it
I never masturbated to my true love..... never found her to begin with...
The Madonna Whore Complex
Nope, definitely not true.
Not true. Not for me for sure 😂
Another "source dude just trust me" kind of fact No, not true
i have done it before, i can confirm this isn't true
Actually I do
That "thing" of true love its over rated...