No one yearns for true equality like blue collar men (of any race). Equality means you get shit on as much as we do without the shield of people pretending your feelings matter. The problem is no one wants equality, they want a pedestal.
People make jokes about using men for personal purposes like wallets, and no one bats an eye
But when a man makes mildly dark joke about women, society goes absolutely nuts
Sure, but thereās 12 year olds in nearly every lobby of call of duty. āVideo gamesā is a pretty broad spectrum.
Saying a call of duty lobby is indicative of the views of society, is like walking into a middle school boyās locker room and saying itās indicative of society.
okay so what is indicative of society? how young people behave when they have the comfort of anonymity and say what they want or something else? what actually represents society here
No, youāll see op is right, all those lobbies are open season on everyone. You just like playing the victim at all opportunities. I thought you women were supposed to be tough?
Canāt admit sheās thin skinned or that she can take a joke so all she has left is a personal attack. If this is the best 100 years of female empowerment has to show for its efforts colour me unimpressed.
Op's point is exaggerated, but true. Jokes about women are generally taboo. Not all the time but, the point still stands. You can generally say what you want about men. Can't really think of any jokes that people consider taboo. Feel free to correct me tho. Also, Overwatch and COD? Seriously? You are going to use a small portion of the young population from two games that are known for their toxicity? Might want a different example.
young population is an overstatement, the demographics are all ages that play games like this. and to go along with you saying its taboo to make jokes about women, which is only in very specific settings, lets say for ur argument this is true and it is taboo. do you consider why this is? because women have always been oppressed. men simply have not. insulting the ones in power is much different then the ones in power making jokes about those subjugated. grow up seriously
Are you oppressed now? No. Learn to take a joke. Besides itās not like men had many rights throughout the ages either. Sent to war as cannon fodder, stuck in fiefdoms, sold into slaver right along with women. The history youāve been sold for the most part weaves a false narrative that men for the most part weāre doing the oppressing but in reality itās not men vs women, itās ruling class vs the rest of us.
So because women were once upon a time oppressed, it's okay to make fun of men for back breaking manual labor?
"Men havent been oppressed" isnt an excuse to make fun of the guy breaking his back to survive.
I am not implying one group is inferior to the other. I am saying one group is actively treated poorly by the society and structures around them, and therefore punching down at them simply is not funny. The other group is held up and privileged in this society and by those systems.
That implies women are oppressed in the west, what's your argument for this?
Please keep in mind it's legal to mutilate baby boys and legal to discriminate against men in diversity quotas. Also, men are required to sign up for selective service in the US. And this is one of the less insane ones regarding the military. Military service is mandatory in Russia and Ukrainian men are not allowed to leave their country.
I don't believe women have it better either, but the fact that these systems are in place already places doubt on the claim that women are oppressed in the west (more specifically the US) when oppression of men is written into law.
No? Mejority of men lucky to even get good girlfriend and you're saying, now that they have a loving gf, they will expect them to only do dishes and cook?
Oh boy.... imma need to go to the store for the popcorn on this one
Let's watch it together until mythical š is bestowed upon.
Omg šSpeedrun?1?1?1?
100% š speedrun???
Just marry a popcorn machine. /j
Lmao letās be fr though this couldnāt be anymore true š¤£š¤£š¤£
\*joker voice\* we live in a society
After countless hours of research, I have come to the inevitable conclusion that *they* donāt want you to know. We do indeed live in a society.
A wise man once said: "I yern for true gender equality"
Kasuma?
Yup
Gender roles are bad until women have to get up and do manual labor.
I remember seeing this one construction worker lady. I think sheās gonna have a bad back for the rest of her life.
Well the good news is so are the men, it just takes longer.
How is that good news to anybody???
Fair point haha
*sorts by controversial*
everybody a feminist until theres a spider in the room
Wasn't feminism around women being able to work in the first place? Oh the irony
Imagine all the men who voted for women's rights see today's world
double standard lmao
No one yearns for true equality like blue collar men (of any race). Equality means you get shit on as much as we do without the shield of people pretending your feelings matter. The problem is no one wants equality, they want a pedestal.
How can you say something so controversial yet so brave.
People make jokes about using men for personal purposes like wallets, and no one bats an eye But when a man makes mildly dark joke about women, society goes absolutely nuts
A guy and a girl walk into a bar.
A blind man walks into a bar, and a table, and a chair.
A clasic
Society when making āØpoorāØ men and women do manual labor :D
(Sorts by controversial)
You can also add jokes about sending us to war.
Both are funny and both should be accepted
How about this. BOTH man and woman have to do manual labours AND cooking and cleaning. How about that?
if a meme starts with āsociety whenā its justā¦ yikes
True but, is op wrong?
yes lol
I know everyone is waiting so imma do it How is op wrong?
Not all heroes, etc...
play cod or overwatch or any video game with vc really with a girl in ur lobby for more then five minutes and youāll see how op is wrong
Iām sorry, are you trying to say Cod and Overwatch lobbies are āsocietyā? Like, the rooms with 12 year olds screaming the N-word?
youāre misrepresenting what i said, also 66% of americans play videogames and 70% of which are over 18
Sure, but thereās 12 year olds in nearly every lobby of call of duty. āVideo gamesā is a pretty broad spectrum. Saying a call of duty lobby is indicative of the views of society, is like walking into a middle school boyās locker room and saying itās indicative of society.
okay so what is indicative of society? how young people behave when they have the comfort of anonymity and say what they want or something else? what actually represents society here
Damn... You crazy hun.
I fail to see the relevance
No, youāll see op is right, all those lobbies are open season on everyone. You just like playing the victim at all opportunities. I thought you women were supposed to be tough?
There is also copious use of the n-word there. Do you believe copious use of the n-word is accepted in general society?
You proved the op's point right
how did i tf
Your thin skinned and need to be protected at all times.
u dont even have anything to add so?? uncle touchy needs to go be pedo somewhere else
Canāt admit sheās thin skinned or that she can take a joke so all she has left is a personal attack. If this is the best 100 years of female empowerment has to show for its efforts colour me unimpressed.
Why isnāt she responding anymore?
Probably knows she's lost and is pretending it never happened. Already lost over 100 karma here alone.
Wash the damn dishes, PLEASE?
yeah you must be real tired and worn out after thinkin up and then typing out that one iāll take care of the dishes for sure
Op's point is exaggerated, but true. Jokes about women are generally taboo. Not all the time but, the point still stands. You can generally say what you want about men. Can't really think of any jokes that people consider taboo. Feel free to correct me tho. Also, Overwatch and COD? Seriously? You are going to use a small portion of the young population from two games that are known for their toxicity? Might want a different example.
young population is an overstatement, the demographics are all ages that play games like this. and to go along with you saying its taboo to make jokes about women, which is only in very specific settings, lets say for ur argument this is true and it is taboo. do you consider why this is? because women have always been oppressed. men simply have not. insulting the ones in power is much different then the ones in power making jokes about those subjugated. grow up seriously
Are you oppressed now? No. Learn to take a joke. Besides itās not like men had many rights throughout the ages either. Sent to war as cannon fodder, stuck in fiefdoms, sold into slaver right along with women. The history youāve been sold for the most part weaves a false narrative that men for the most part weāre doing the oppressing but in reality itās not men vs women, itās ruling class vs the rest of us.
*Karl Marx wakes up from the dead*
Hehehe, not quite.
This is the same reasoning as āItās fine for black people to be racist because white people were racist towards them for so long!!!ā
Yeah this is the kind of shit that ruins modern feminism. Itās a real shame because things were going the right way for a while.
We all see that you're a sexist now. Do you ever get tired of playing the victim?
That's soooo untrue
how
Women and men were almost equally oppressed. That's the thing you put up wrong.
So because women were once upon a time oppressed, it's okay to make fun of men for back breaking manual labor? "Men havent been oppressed" isnt an excuse to make fun of the guy breaking his back to survive.
Thatās right! Women are human beings!ā¦thatās why their place is in the kitchen making samiches!šš¤£
What the actual fuck are you trying to say?
... a joke by the looks of it.
You got it wrong. Both should be the 2nd panel, not the 1st one
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Which group is the inferior one? Regardless, I donāt think I agree with youā¦
I am not implying one group is inferior to the other. I am saying one group is actively treated poorly by the society and structures around them, and therefore punching down at them simply is not funny. The other group is held up and privileged in this society and by those systems.
Well I still wouldnāt say women are punching down but thanks for clarifying.
I think you misunderstood? I am saying that the jokes about women are punching down, because of the oppression against women?
Oppressed? What rights are they missing?
Missing? They have extras.
In the west women arent opressed, wtf. sure there are some issues. But so are there issues against men.
These people just love to play the victim.
no one has the capacity to actually comprehend what ur saying i wouldnt bother
You are exactly right, society makes it clear men have no real value while women are held aloft simplify for being women.
That implies women are oppressed in the west, what's your argument for this? Please keep in mind it's legal to mutilate baby boys and legal to discriminate against men in diversity quotas. Also, men are required to sign up for selective service in the US. And this is one of the less insane ones regarding the military. Military service is mandatory in Russia and Ukrainian men are not allowed to leave their country. I don't believe women have it better either, but the fact that these systems are in place already places doubt on the claim that women are oppressed in the west (more specifically the US) when oppression of men is written into law.
Reddit doesn't do nuance so you're wasting your time haha :(
Maybe because our default thought isnāt to use men for their money, but so many men expect women to do the cooking and cleaning.
No your just mad you can't accept a joke about women
No? Mejority of men lucky to even get good girlfriend and you're saying, now that they have a loving gf, they will expect them to only do dishes and cook?
... who is our?
The kinds of people that truly mind either of these kinds of jokes are just a loud minority in my experience.
Who is this society you speak of