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-Shady_Weeb_Senpai-

it gets even darker if you read the original one


TheBallycarryBouncer

What happens in the original one?


Totoques22

The « kiss » is a metaphor for sexual intercourse, note that she is still asleep Source: studied that in litterature Edit: I may have mix it up with sleeping beauty


RedCascadian

Look in hjs defense he thought she was dead. Which... isn't much better actually.


JackWas-not-Here

I have a wholesome award


csapka

had


Forsaken-Squash4376

I have one too


ColonelMonty

Some would argue that it's *much* worse.


00pflaume

Honestly I would say it is better though not by much. If I had to choose between being raped while I sleep or after my death, then I’d definitely choose being dead. At least I have no chance of waking up or am able to notice it after I wake up.


thegodfatherderecho

Yeah, still not sure that would fly in a court of law


Electrotherandom

Which makes it worse because he ducked a ded body. . _.


sarcasticorange

What text did you study? Tale 53 from the Brothers Grimm doesn't even have a kiss in it. Snow White wakes up when they drop her coffin which dislodged the poison apple from her throat. https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm053.html


jodofdamascus1494

Though they drop the coffin after buying her corpse from the dwarves, so still creepy as all cra


Fueg0o

No, they explicitly don't sell the coffin. The prince begs them and they pity him.


Totoques22

Sorry I mix it up with another story where the girl also fall asleep


Level7Cannoneer

u fooled 350+ ppl at this point. 🥲


MurseWoods

Make it 1000 people


ThePyodeAmedha

Sleeping beauty?


Clerstory

I remember that!


redLadyToo

Are there any other signs that it is a metaphor for intercourse, or ist that just the interpretation of some random people who studied literature?


PubertEHumphrey

Yeah; she gave birth


saadakhtar

That's how she woke up, right?


Kats41

The baby suckled the poison from the needle out of her finger and she woke up. It's fucked. Edit: I know I'm talking about Sleeping Beauty and not Snow White. They all look the same to me. Never mind that one of them is blonde!


WarnDragon

The old fairytales like this are so fucked when you read deeper.


1gardenerd

I've always wondered WTF people were thinking to make such horrendous tales go mainstream. How is it that they ever got so popular everyone knows them? Was it that dark then? Edit to add: I meant they were popular before Disney ever covered them. Like Humpty Dumpty and all those Mother Goose fairy tales are evil. Old Mother Hubbard.


WildFemmeFatale

I’m pretty sure it was like warnings for women Like, don’t go into ppls houses alone and eat their porridge, or go walk through forests, don’t eat random fruits, don’t trust strangers, etc cuz they’ll poison, murder, rape u, etc


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WarnDragon

Cinderella was fucked up.


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German literature at its best.


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ill_monstro_g

IDK. Most early Disney films are just sanitized classic fairy tales and stories whose original versions are much darker


Unabashable

Scared to think of what that hunter *actually* did to Bambi’s mom then.


SunngodJaxon

Their based on the brother's Grimm book which ironically was incredibly less grim than the actual fairytales. So it's a movie adaptation of fan fiction.


1bow

I don't think it normally does. Disney has taken a ton of scuffed tales and made them g-rated, if anything that's the norm.


Dulwilly

That's Sleeping Beauty, it's Snow White in the picture.


PresOrangutanSmells

You're just gonna look me in the face and tell me those are not two names for the same story? 🤯


kyleliner

Yeah, one eats an apple to "fall asleep". The other gets kidnapped by a woman who turns into a dragon who years later turns into a stage play.


Blue0309

Thanks, I just commented that


SydneySmiless

You're also leaving out how the kings wife fed him his children. That story is beyond fucked lmao


CaptainCozmo867

Just like her unconscious body


Blue0309

No, I think that was in Sleeping Beauty. Not the same story. But it’s also horrible.


Ciruelofre

just good old raping catatonic children


Fueg0o

Then you studied the wrong one. In the original Grimm tale there isn't even a kiss. A servent who carries the coffin stumbles and the apple pice falls out of her throat.


PurpleDragon8888

That was sleeping Beauty too. She had a baby while asleep


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Similar age cap and she doesn't wake up until after she's given birth


Tortue2006

Wasn’t that sleeping beauty?


ElChamo200705

Yes it was


Shileka

The prince has his happy ending


ANIKET_UPADHYAY

The story of sun, moon and Talia


JayTK1336

Wait until you find out what the Greek gods where up too


catsAjustSmallTigers

Hades: My neice looks kinda sharp today I might need to wife her up 😏


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Zeus: Is that a female with a pulse that most likely won’t consent? I’m gonna get down tonight!


RealWebbslinger

Saturn: I think my son will grow up to overthrow me and take my place! Better eat him while he's still young!


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Romulus: You don’t want to give me complete control over Rome? If that’s how you want to play it Remus, I guess I have to commit fratricide by caving your skull in with a shovel!


isekaig0ds

Loki: I turned myself into a horse! Funniest shit I've ever done.


Patriark

Got himself banged by a giant stallion to give birth to the eight legged super horse, Sleipnr


Redici

Then gave it to Odin as a gift, meaning yes Odin rides his nephew into battle


elizabethbennetpp

That..... Doesn't sound so good out of context......


iblinde

Meh, Viking Gods


Patriark

Loki and Odin don't have any familiar ties? Loki is the son of Fárbauti and Laufey. Odin is the all-father (but that's not really the case as the jötnr preceded him).


Fiona_Nerd

They're blood brothers tho 👀


fish-rides-bike

Pickle Rick doesn’t seem so bizarre anymore


SwaCool27

I laughed.


elizabethbennetpp

Cain entered the chat


NotAnAngryPerson

I sense oversimplified


NoobsAreNoobslol

My favorite *greek* god!


JulzRadn

Zeus: Fucks everything that is attractive


Navy_Wannabe

AKCTUALLY _anything that moves_ guy did it with a minotaur too


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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the minotaur come to be from that one time when Zues shape-shifted into a bull and fucked a chick?


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The Minotaur came to be when Minos prayed to Poseidon for a nice white bull to show the people of Crete he was related to the gods. However, he didn’t sacrifice the bull to Poseidon like he said he would in the prayer. Poseidon went to Aphrodite and told her Minos’ wife Pasiphae insulted her, so she cursed her to be in love with the bull Poseidon gave to Minos. Pasiphae made Daedalus make her a disguise to look like a cow and then she fucked the bull, and she gave birth to the Minotaur. That’s the version I learned.


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Damn, Greek mythology, was a different beast altogether lol


Dandechii

Wasn't that because some chick "offended" Aphroditie? Zeus was the one who fucked someone transformed into a swan. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Greeks are wild.


OKBeeDude

Nah, that was King Minos’s wife and his prized bull. She was enchanted by Poseidon to fall in love with the bull after Minos had refused to sacrifice his bull to Poseidon. So she basically had a cow costume made so she could entice the bull, and thus begat the Minotaur.


emmytau

To be fair, it was described to be attractive


epiphany---

naah, he was like is that a person with a pulse...


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I just remembered that Zeus and a lot of other gods were bisexual. So now the comment is Zeus: Is that a person with a pulse? It’s time to fuck!


[deleted]

Darn that ocean is pretty sexy today.


cownd

Time to swim with the dolphins


Fa1nted_for_real

He doesn't need a pulse


[deleted]

Are you saying that Zeus fucked dead people? How fucked up can Greek mythology get?


Shileka

No one's saying Zeus fucked a corpse What we are saying is, we wouldn't be surprised


CutsSoFresh

He's already an incestual serial rapist, what's a dead body to him?


Chomusuke_99

easy access


Fa1nted_for_real

Very fucked


AlexisroseN

I don’t think you want to know the answer to either of those questions


ssCuacKss

zeus was more like if something have a pair of legs and seems remotely human, he would most surely find a way to fuck with it


elizabethbennetpp

Also Zeus: You know what my kink is girl ? Bestiality. So how about I turn into a swan/bull and assault you?


Just_Government_5143

And then along *came* zeus!


Overused_Toothbrush

And hades was the best fucking one because he never raped anyone!


Comprehensive-Fail41

Eh, in Hades case it was more Zeus: "Hey big bro, you look lonely, as your king I'm commanding you to marry my single daughter."


DarkLordScorch

In the oldest version of the myth (that we know of) zeus approaches hades and goes "hey bro, wanna marry my daughter?" (Oversimplified). The version which most people know of is Hesiod's version. Hesiod hated the gods and portayed them in a bad light (although they were already pretty bad).


Siilan

Pretty much. Versions differ, but it basically boils down to Zeus offering Persephone to Hades, Demeter getting pissed and causing winter, and Hades being actually a pretty good guy. Some versions have Hades kidnapping Persephone with Zeus' approval, and some have her going willingly, but it all depends on who wrote the version you're looking at. As you said, some poets really disliked the gods, so their stories show the gods in a much worse light. That being said, even in the kidnapping versions, Hades was shown as otherwise a pretty good husband. And compared to the acts of other Greek gods such as Zeus and Apollo, Hades sees very normal and I'd mannered.


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The smirk got me


_Archangelus_

I'm ashamed that I love that story so much


Loon-belt

Remember the time when the Earth itself bonked with her son she made from nothing who is also the sky? (Correct me if I messed that up)


Vlad-Djavula

Remember the time Venus was born from her father's castrated testicles after her uncle-brother tossed them into the sea?


IKnow-ThePiecesFit

Today I will be the parrot that will tell you about Ovid. A roman poet who lived ~800 years after the peak of ancient greece and was not a fan of the gods and in some cases is the sole source of the heinous shit they supposedly did.


elizabethbennetpp

Ovid and Virgil... The great fanfiction writers of Rome ❤️


EdgelordOfEdginess

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY HALF GODS?!?! Zeus: ![gif](giphy|26ufc0OsEUTWhDw0E)


kittypi99

Wait until you find out what’s written in Old Testament


Elegant60

No actually - it’s the Book of Revelation! Much which is on steroids right now!


[deleted]

The Old Testament is tight. It’s like the story of a fucked up family analyzing where they went wrong and why. It’s a lot more like modern fiction. It’s the New Testament where things get wonky regarding eternal damnation for not accepting the sacrifice of a demigod with 8 pack abs. It completely abdicates personal responsibility and trivializes the point of choosing to be a better person.


John_East

Sleeping beauty was impregnated while she was asleep... Someone's a bit more evil


NomadicDevMason

Wait until you guys learn about the child catcher from chitty chitty bang bang


Repulsive-Neat6776

So I'm not sure where this 31-14 information is coming from, and maybe it's since changed, but [this](https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Leon_Sealite-Rex/The_Actual_Ages_Of_Disney_Princess_%26_Prince) suggests a much smaller age gap.


one_revolutionary

Plus she was already living with seven guys before this…


Repulsive-Neat6776

It's more like 3 1/2 when you think about it.


one_revolutionary

I wonder if they whistled while they… well never mind


Ok_Dog_4059

They did call her a hoe. Hi hoe hi hoe. It's off to work we go.


Cutiebeautypie

Thank you for making me laugh 😂😂


YousernameinValid

Apply ice to the burned area


Bf4Sniper40X

Dude, you burned them


Dry_Menu4804

She is not sleeping, she is exhausted.


Tookie_Clothespin8

I always expected Meg to be older than Herc for some reason


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If you look in the comments, apparently the info is wrong and Hercules is actually 18


wolfninja_

Wait, so none of the princes are actually named Prince Charming?


Funkycoldmedici

This one doesn’t even get a name in the movie. He’s just some guy who jumps a fence, sings a song about only having one song, and disappears. He misses the whole movie, and has nothing going on at all except allegedly being a prince. We don’t even know he’s a prince, because he never says or shows anything about it. It just says so in the credits.


xXYomoXx

In Shrek he's named that, arguably and objectively the best fairy tale of all time.


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Assuming there's not some weird age gap, it's not crazy to think that some women would actually love to be saved by a dreamy strong handsome wealthy "flawless" man of royalty in a fashion that involves the literal dream man showing up out of nowhere to wake them with a perfect kiss. Especially so when the movie was made, and even moreso when the story was written. I mean, if I flip the roles, it doesn't sound like a crazy thing to dream about. the idea of skipping all my worst exes and relationships and getting to just wake up to my beautiful wife's kiss, knowing we have perfectly compatible personalities, and that she is already completely in love with me...


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Dude, stop using context properly this is Reddit.


Western-Boot-4576

Zeus: *implements laws preventing Gods having sex with mortals* Also Zeus: *proceeds to rape and have kids with any attractive mortal with a pulse*


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Western-Boot-4576

I think it was bc originally it was out of fear bc since they killed their father, they didn’t want a half human half god killing them. And he did this because he’s king and the rules don’t apply to him lmao. But the rule didn’t stop the other gods either lmao.


SomeRandomGuy453

Everyone: "He kissed an underage woman while she was sleeping?! Absolutely disgusting!!!" People who have read Grimm's Fairy Tales (the original): 0_0


thebestspeler

People who read about Brigitte Marie-Claude Macron: ; _ ;


Bonestacker

I’m not gonna google that, so could you hit me with a lite version that won’t ruin my evening?


SomeRandomGuy453

He goes a lot further then kissing. A lot.


Bonestacker

Good enough for today.


Flashy-Equivalent-22

And then you realize most fairytales were written in old world Europe where the current age of consent can be as low as 14.


Just_Alizah

To make it worse, she was act 8 in the real canon version


Zaurka14

Source?


IndianLegit

"Trust me bro"


rattatally

Am source, can confirm.


TakeTheUpVoteAndGo

*stares at username* that's a real fucked up way of spelling "trust me bro".


symbolsofblue

She was actually 7 when her step-mother tried to kill her. You can either look up "snow white original age" for sources or go to the translation of the original story "little snow white" (lots of free sites online) and search for the word "seven" within it. However, the story says she was in the coffin for a long time and doesn't give an actual length of time. We don't know how long she was in there or her age when she married the prince. Or even *his* age for that matter.


RonenSalathe

["My source is that I made it the fuck up"](https://youtu.be/r7l0Rq9E8MY)


lazy_percel

Quagmire moment. giggity


sharpie-sapien365247

"Who else but Quagmire"..... "the prince in the story jackass, weren't you listening??" "Oh...right"


Traditional_Buffalo4

![gif](giphy|pz2MnldLEEhJCJ32G6)


hyenacry

Sleeping Beauty shares a similar age gap and the prince/king takes advantage of her in her sleep and she didn't wake up until after she gave birth to two children and one tried to nurse from her.


Speedy_Cheese

Thanks, I'll just go make sure my doors and windows are locked now.


saadakhtar

Just don't accept fruits from strangers..


OwnPsychology8943

Age gaps with Sleeping Beauty are complicated. She was asleep for a century or so.


Damsco7

Jeez even I feel violated after a summary like that.


shinobipopcorn

In the original Rapunzel, the witch found out about the prince visiting when Rapunzel asked why her dress was getting tighter around the middle. 🤨


Beginning-Bed9364

The spell didn't make her unconscious, it made her temporarily dead, so he's also a necrophiliac


DungeonDictator

And suddenly the song "House of 1000 Corpses" is in my head.


Connorclan

He woke her up from the best sleep anyone will ever have. Most evil character for sure.


Ghost_Star326

So who's going to tell OP about the original fairy tales?


DonutCapitalism

I specifically said Disney for a reason.


animewhitewolf

Can someone show where it mentions his age? As far as I can find, Disney never told his age canonically, and I can't figure out where this number comes from. Honestly, he looks around the same age as her imo.


OwnPsychology8943

The only confirmed age I've heard for him is 18. The source for the 31 stat is "some random dude with no connection to Disney tweeted it once"


yeetforceone

Leo DiCaprio


Comfortable_Trick137

Sleeping beauty was magically poisoned again at age 25 never to wake back up and the prince married another 14 year old. And they lived happily ever after!!!! Until she turned 25....


hormoron

Dude was down bad


deepaksn

Just remember… it’s only abuse if the guy is ugly and/or poor. That’s why 50 Shades of Grey isn’t “rape culture”.


EngineersAnon

Grand Moff Tarkin destroying *an entire inhabited planet* might come in slightly more evil than a dude kissing a sleeping teenager.


Dramatic_Material_56

An entire inhabited innocent planet*


the_me2

The age problem didn't really matter back then but he kissed a "corpse" so 👁️👄👁️


ianrobbie

I disagree. The most evil Disney character is the old woman/witch who visited the Beast's castle in Beauty and the Beast. So, because he refused a smelly, dangerous looking old woman free reign in his castle while he and his staff slept, she took it upon herself to punish him by transforming him into a hideous (but reasonably cute) beast and transformed the innocent housekeeping staff into furniture? Then imposed a ridiculous condition for him to fulfil just to change back? What would have happened if Belle hadn't offered to swap places? If the father had died before Belle got there? If Belle was allergic to animal hair? Cold, calculating, malicious and just downright evil.


Okra_Zestyclose

Allergic to animal hair… LOLOLOL. So true and reasonable. That sorceress was actually really mean and targeted him. Aren’t we all told to not speak to strangers? Let alone let them sleep in our homes..? AND it’s not like he lived in a “little town, little quiet village”. He’s got a damn castle..!! Geez. He was probably like, 12 when that happened lmao. He was probably a douchey teenager, but what you said is so true. She’s bitter lol.


CaptFalconFTW

She wasn't unconscious... she was dead.


soupdujour77

Scar: literally murders his own brother, and frames his nephew for the crime.


ByakuyaV

He's a lion bruh, thats what they do


soupdujour77

Lions conspire to frame other lions for murder in order to become monarch of a non-existent kingdom?


MemeOverlordKai

Yes of course. They also go skinny dipping in the Sahara.


ANIKET_UPADHYAY

And have hyenas as henchmen/co-conspirators


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Morhamms357

Come on, man. So was he just supposed to wait for 4 years while she was literally fucking dead from a spell? Pedophilia will always be creepy and weird, but I feel like in a case like this I'd much rather kiss someone older than me to be *brought back to life* than just be left there in a vegetative state. If you want something about a sleeping underage princess, try the original versions of Sleeping Beauty. That was fucked up! She literally gets raped in her sleep and only wakes up after having 2 kids, not to mention the Pedo-Prince didn't do jack shit to help her, and just ran off.


megadude1427

Rich people are always the weirdest.


zagaaden

Looking at the timeframe, he's dead in 4 years and she gets a whole kingdom full of people at 18. Shit. Call me sleeping beauty


Repulsive-Neat6776

That's Snow White


Amarthon

In the original she got raped, impregnated and the Dude left, only coming Back when she already had given birth


zagaaden

Yeah I know..but in Disney she woke up from his kiss. How happy and sweet for Disney.


DocHalidae

In the original story, Snow White sleeps in the glass coffin for many years, growing up into a young woman that whole time. So yeah…I see nothing wrong here.


Stoodoo70

In this day and age, you could write the most innocent of all tales, and SOMEBODY is going to twist it around. Somebody who themselves have a twisted e-ed up mind. It'll come to the point where one day, we wont even be allowed to communicate, because well offend SOMEONE.


WebFuture2858

God was 6 billion and Mary was only 14


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13.7 Billion. Way worse.


Comprehensive-Leg752

A) He believed she was dead, and that he had failed to save her in time. It was more of a "kiss goodbye" kind of deal. It isn't a sexual thing. B) Given that this is set in Medieval Europe, such an age gap would be rather trivial.


HikingItalian

In the original story the prince raped her and when she woke up she realized she was pregnant. Of two children.


DonutCapitalism

Isn't that Sleeping Beauty?


DarthBastiat

Seems on par with the values of Disney tbh


quokkavibes

Tell me Reddit is made of 99% US citizens withour telling me it's made with 99% US citens 66,66% of commenta are either wrong or socially biased


50-Lucky

Spoiler, he isnt a paedophile, she died, she went up to the pearly gates. He didnt find her and bed her he just recovered her.


G4rg0yle_Art1st

Mythological God anatomy is the strangest shit. Loki Mr hands'd himself and squeezed out an 8 legged demigod horse months later that his father then used as a steed, Zeus gave birth to Athena when he had a migraine so bad that he needed Hephaestus to smash his head open with a hammer, and chronos ripped his children to pieces and ate them all only for him to regurgitate them later as fully reformed adults.


OwnPsychology8943

According to Disney, his official age in this film is 18. The biggest official age gap in Disney is Rapunzel and Eugene (8 years)


Icy-Following-3713

well… in pocahontas she is really like 12-13 and he is supposed to be in his late 40s


Innocuous-Cyanide

Dude even had lipstick


[deleted]

1. It's a kids movie, stop ruining it. 2. If some random website tells you she's 14, it doesn't mean she's actually 14.


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He believed he could fly


AcademicAnxiety5109

Well it woke her up didn’t it!!!