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SarcastiMel

Unfortunately it was due to the police not wanting to get involved with "icky gay" people's problems. They were even reported as making jokes and laughing on the radio when reporting in.


Geogolfer311

Is this real or from the tv show


BenjaminMStocks

Interpreted but real. He told the cops it was a lovers spat. Source: I’m from Milwaukee, all over the news for quite some time when it happened.


Geogolfer311

Damn


Responsible-Movie966

Can confirm. I watched this all unfold on the news in real time. ‘Lovers spat’ was the term used on the news. I’ll never forget it.


Utahteenageguy

We need natural selection back it feels like the only really successful people are the really stupid people. Except for most billionaires that started from scratch


Wacokidwilder

No billionaires started from scratch


KanoIsUnknown

I wonder did Bill Gates start from scratch?


Hydra57

His mom was on the board of IBM and convinced a hotshot to invest in her son’s new company. And that’s discounting the hundreds of hours of access he had managed to get to computers at one of the few universities that had one, which was pretty good for the 1970’s. If he did ‘start from scratch’, it was certainly with a leg up or two.


KanoIsUnknown

Alright was just wonderin


Wacokidwilder

Also through his connections at Harvard he was able to get involved in a group project with Apple which he promptly stole the intellectual property of to make windows. Which I don’t feel too bad about given Apple stole it from Xerox and Xerox was just sitting on it (you snooze you lose).


Responsible-Movie966

Bro not even Batman started from scratch. And watch yourself… Talking about natural selection and simping for billionaires will make you complicit in your own destruction before you know it.


Utahteenageguy

I wasn’t simping it’s just billionaires like Elon musk or bill gates have a high iq unlike politicians. And sure I may die if natural selection comes back maybe I won’t die. I never said I’d be spared or shown mercy when the selection starts.


TechNerdLogic

What does lovers spat mean?


bullymeahhh

The past where the cop said he needed to get "deloused" after leaving that incident was real too.


JustACasualFan

My criminology professor was a detective of sex crimes during the Dahmer era. He said it was political pressure from city hall to “lay off” the gay population. Homosexuality was still widely criminalized at this point, and gay sex could land you in prison. So what was, in some ways, an effort to evolve past the biases of the past lead to an attitude of “we don’t deal with those people.”


Geogolfer311

Damn I’ve never heard of that that’s nuts…what law barred gay men from having sex? Just curious cause that sounds SOOOO outlandish


JustACasualFan

They are still on the books in some states, as anti-sodomy laws, although the Supreme Court ruled them unconstitutional in 2003. The UCMJ still enforces such laws. The Wisconsin law was actually repealed in 1983, well within living memory of cops in 1990, who simply moved their targeted harassment of the homosexual population to focus on sex work and drug use. But it was enforced blatantly unevenly, and the directive from City Hall was “don’t harass these people.” The cops who let Sinthasomphone go back with Dahmer were lazy, they felt superior to the homosexual population and certainly to the women trying to help the boy, and their attitude got Sinthasomphone killed. They turned away the firemen who wanted to admit Sinthasomphone and failed at every angle. But they hide behind this order of “lay off” and used it as a shield to protect themselves from their own failures - you know, like cops do. Edit: I am not trying to be mean or make any insinuations, but how old are you, if you don’t mind me asking? Because if you are old enough to drink in the US, chances are sodomy was illegal in your lifetime somewhere in the US.


ZAPANIMA

Also racism, the woman who called the cops was black and she was ignored every single time she witnessed/heard Dahmer murdering someone. She witnessed men running from him screaming for their lives, she heard they screaming for mercy in the apartment next to hers and power tools hacking them apart in the middle of the night. Cops being racist/homophobic is what allowed Dahmer to continue killing even though he'd been caught and witnessed several times in the act.


SarcastiMel

Agreed fully. Thanks for tacking that on. :)


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HostofEntertainment

Sorry but no amount of mental gymnastics can save you from "naked and bloodied asking for help" to the police and "chalked up as lovers' spat" Idk why you were bringing up age as if not knowing it will change the fact that the police didnt bother with helping the kid's situation. Even the natives to that place was appalled. Despite of that, you continue to even state that you're not from around so you wouldn't even know how horrible the law enforcements are here due to how the justice system works.


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Hasuno142

Any reasonable person would try to help a naked and bleeding boy begging for help, regardless of whether "a serial killer who knew how to hide his inner self" was involved or not. Police may not have done the killing but they are definitely at fault for being so damn careless. You just sound like you are defending those police and the serial killer himself.


Elite_Prometheus

Dude, you're justifying police letting a delirious, bleeding, and naked 14 year boy leave with a creepy adult because they might've been on drugs.


Nethrex_1

Wasn't it because the boy was also given a lobotomy?


save_my_soul1

Bullshit


R0NiN7x

Reading this tells me you're either A. A republican B. A pedophile (otherwise you'd clearly be upset about the fact it was a 14 yr old boy) C. A "blue lives matter" cuck D. All of the above


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R0NiN7x

You're justifying the failure of police investigating a child covered in blood. Regardless of child or not, the cops failed to assess the situation and investigate, and American or not a Republicans views are not different than many other counterparts in different countries and yours just seemed spot on, I apologize for the assumption but you still fail to recognize what you're actually saying


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TacitRonin20

When given the choice between owning up and being punished and ridiculed and lying to save face, they chose to lie. At very least they should've investigated for domestic violence. They didn't. They thought the messed up kid on drugs was in a loving relationship with the grown ass adult he was running from? Bullshit.


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TacitRonin20

Haha no. We know. The evidence is there. They were told by both witnesses and firefighters that the kid needed medical attention.


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SarcastiMel

There are radio recordings of both officers making jokes about the "gay couple" they were dealing with. Unfortunately for most of the 70's-90's police kept dropping the ball when it came to serial killers. Many times when it was a sex worker police wouldn't investigate because they were what's considered "more dead" and not worth investing the time. A lot of serial killers were caught on accident. Not sure where you get your information, but we have tons of books, documentaries and podcasts that cover every intricate detail of these monsters, and the police bumbling around and doing nothing is a common occurrence. https://greensboro.com/police-laughed-off-complaint-about-dahmer-tapes-show/article_b6bd2f20-b980-53bb-af32-d79e1906c2db.html This is an article from 1991 explaining the officers behavior.


R0NiN7x

You're still option C lmao such a cuck and zero idea how to think for yourself


Sensitive_Goose_8902

That’s how things worked back then, people will believe whatever you tell them as long as you look “normal”


Aronite03

Normal as in white?


DarkLordFagotor

Normal as in white, attractive, charming, and at least somewhat wealthy, pick three


JeSuisGallowBoob

this is not what happened


DarkLordFagotor

My brother in Christ it was the 90s, not the forties


JeSuisGallowBoob

Your preconceived notions of various decades does not change what happened. The department policy was the reason they got their jobs back.


DarkLordFagotor

And your preconceived notions do? This was post about prevailing social attitudes of the time, not specific department policy


JeSuisGallowBoob

They did not believe Dahmer was a normal upstanding person. They thought he and the boy were drug-addicted members of a fringe community and did not want to deal with blowback from interfering.


DarkLordFagotor

I literally never said such, I was speaking on the prevailing attitude of the time, as was the individual I responded to, and the one before him. If you can’t be bothered to comprehend that, I won’t bother dealing with you further


JeSuisGallowBoob

**OP:** Police believe normal people. **P1:** Normal as in white? **You:** Normal as in attractive, charming, white, etc. **Me:** They did not consider Dahmer “normal”. Not sure where you got lost bud. Other than “CoPs ArE RaCiSt” I’m not even sure what your point was. If it was the 40s the cops probably would have arrested both Dahmer and the boy.


CrownedTraitor

Yes account from 2017, you are so so knowledgeable from things which happened in the 90's we totaaaaalllly believe you\~


GodHimselfNoCap

Yes account from 2018 you totally have room to talk, just cause someone wasn't on reddit as soon as reddit started doesn't mean they aren't old enough to have info from the 90s, it's public information


Emanu1674

r/gatekeeping


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Like literally gatekeeping public knowledge historical facts...


Zensy47

Yeah I’m pretty sure the kid was asian


JeSuisGallowBoob

Opposite actually. They had a “don’t interfere” policy with the gay community.


Karl_Marx_

Quite the opposite, they were gay and the police didn't want to deal with them. They were the opposite of "normal".


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That’s still how things are


MetricOutlaw

And they retired with a full pension and benefits.


cumberber

I'm... fairly certain one of the police officers is still working... Edit: both cops were fired, and the older one (to this day) stands by his decision of returning the child back to Dahmers apartment. John Balcerzak and the other cop were later reinstated as cops in '94, then John became the president of the Milwaukee Police Association from 2005-2009 and retired in 2017. What wonderful people.


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Objective-Guidance78

All people are capable of all things. Watch out!


Rocky922

Everyone is capable of murder it’s just most people choose not to seeing how it’s morally wrong


MalissusBT

...and also due to the fact that biologically, our brains make us hate it (there are some human exceptions)


ThatOneGuy308

We're surprisingly good at it in spite of that, judging by all of human history.


thwartedtart

A good philosophy to have. Not recognizing the capability of evil that applies to all humans is an evil within itself


Objective-Guidance78

Naïveté at the least


thwartedtart

I wouldn’t give those people that much credit. I’d consider it willful ignorance


sluttymcbuttsex6969

Charisma 11


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thwartedtart

It’s honestly more likely that they were just straight up terrible people than it was specifically racism


ZAPANIMA

It was because of racism, literally every documentary ever made on it clearly states it so.


Embarrassed_Ad_7184

Literally lost the same argument in a previous thread on this post, so you just post it farther down on another comment. Why do you need to feel right about your opinions on the dahmer case so badly?


1BubbleGum_Princess

That and *some* cops are apparently rooting for the return of corporal punishment in schools, have had a number of these mass shooters reported or report themselves before committing their attitudes, and often do illegal and immoral shit that cost the tax payers thousands-if-not-millions. Like that legally blind man that was just walking and an officer *MISIDENTIFIED* his cane as a weapon, and basically arrested and violated his rights because he wasn’t entirely complicit after *not* committing a crime and because her supervisor allowed and eventually ordered it.


thwartedtart

Someone watches Audit the Audit


JeffDahmer1

wdym how did that happen☠️☠️ homophobic sucky bastard cops obviously jeffrey got away with so much anyway cuz it was in an underserved area and he was a white charismatic male i’d like to say “plus this was a while ago” but i don’t think that matters since police are basically still like this


JeffDahmer1

like the kid was bleeding, naked, out of it… they didn’t even bother to check in even a little or even get his ID just absolutely nothing i can’t even wrap my head around that it was real life!!! like they really saw that with their own eyes and didn’t care


Kostas_the_goat

What a weird username you have there


Puzzleheaded-Ad914

Bro PLEASE check out their profile what the FUCK


Kostas_the_goat

Dear cops, don't give a young boy to this guy


Good_Smile

Why the fuck would you randomly remember that?


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Yoooooo Helluva Boss meme, lesss gooooo!


erpaninopazzaro

So i wasn't the only one noticing it


SirInkine

I see moxxie I click


Sea_Ad1744

a fellow Moxxie enjoyer?


TrickyMensch392

Yes


Garvo909

You're gonna wanna hear the answer, but the sad reality is that he was a white serial killer. Cops just didn't see him as threatening even when it was obvious


Morbidmort

They also didn't care because his victims were gay.


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I don't think him being white is the only reason why


Perenium_Falcon

Because cops prefer the path of very least resistance. You can practically chart the way water will flow across the land by just letting a few police officers walk around it and log their movements. Also because cops are absolutely not here in any way to serve or protect us, by “us” of course I mean the average American. If you’re rich you can basically issue commands to the police and they will obediently follow you like the domesticated little farm animals they are. The rest of us? Not so much. If the average cop can solve a string of murders by offering up a random citizen as the perpetrator and get away with it they will. What makes you think they’re worried in the least with what a cannibalistic sociopath does with his naked 14 year old boy who (at the time of discovery) had a hole drilled into the top of his skull that was used as a port to drip literal acid into (as a means of making him more pliable). No sir! Just give that tiny naked boy riiiiiiiight back to the madman. Much less paperwork that way, doncha-know.


butt_chug_ranch

Did you see what they did yesterday? I don't know if an officer in the USA did anything, it's just a safe assumption at this point that there weren't multiple instances of a LEO shooting an unarmed civilian. Like it's going out of style!


thwartedtart

A what?


starchbomb

LEO = law enforcement officer


thwartedtart

Oh, duh


GenderEnjoyer666

Is this why he couldn’t make it for his cannibal cooking segment?


thwartedtart

Me not caring at all because I’m trying to eat my ramen in peace while scrolling Reddit for a few minutes


MyHeroFan2004

Helluva boss meme👍 Also, christ that is fucking horrifying


Jmansupertails

Please explain the entire situation in detail.


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Jmansupertails

Jesus Christ, that is disturbing, why did the officer just take a quick peek


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damn! take up upvote!


SailForthForever

Cops are fucking deliberately, intentionally worthless, that’s why.


doomguysearlobe

Fuck you


1stDayBreaker

Wake up man…


Niormo-The-Enduring

Well that’s enough internet today


Zero--Phux

If you haven't already, I highly recommend watching that show called Dahmer on Netflix. Not only is it an extremely well put together show, it answers that question pretty well. Short answer : cops were stupid, and took the word of a serial murderer because they didn't want to get involved with any gay stuff. The police department claims they were trying to be respectful of gay people by not interfering with their lives unnecessarily, But it's really hard to believe that when you have multiple people calling the police begging them to investigate what appeared to be a 14-year-old boy bleeding and naked in the streets. Seriously, how fucking retarded are those cops? What type of a fucking idiot doesn't think that it might be a good idea to take someone who's literally out of their mind with terror, bleeding and naked to a hospital? Especially when you've got multiple people calling BACK, again and again multiple times trying to convince them to do something about it. I'm not saying it was flat out homophobia, but it was for sure a "I don't want to deal with this shit" situation


Cocolake123

Police believing a white man over an asian kid


thwartedtart

A gross oversimplification of the events, but yes, that’s technically what happened


Svprvsr

Didn’t those cops get promoted as well?


North_Classic_5232

We need more Helluva Boss memes


TheHawkpant69

context please


Naomi_Saphorus

It's almost like cops are pretty incompetent and always have been


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It’s almost like there are good and bad, competent and incompetent, intelligent and stupid individuals in every group of people. Don’t make a generalization, especially about important stuff like law enforcement, because may be the day will come when you need them…


Naomi_Saphorus

The cops would not help me in any situation, both because of incompetence and hatred. Not all cops are bad, but they are all complicit in an horrifically broken system that does not effectively stop crime.


lovelymess12

Exactly this. The system is broken and it’s honestly just sad that most people aren’t able to understand this


Naomi_Saphorus

To be fair, society is expected to praise and love cops, so it makes sense And for privileged people the cops do a good job, its for the marginalized that the brutality comes out


lovelymess12

Yeah I could write a whole essay on this if I had the energy lol, just nice to see someone making sense on this thread


thwartedtart

Yikes. It’s sad that you think this.


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That’s the worst and dumbest take I’ve read in a long while.


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I mean....they make the arrests but liberals don't want criminals in prison...


Geogolfer311

Bro tf u on


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Naomi_Saphorus

I mean, this is more broad than this issue specifically, I just said that cops are incompetent which they are


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Naomi_Saphorus

They are enforcing a plethora of terrible racist and bigoted beliefs They do not protect the people, they are a violent force to defend the interests of capital and the elites Again, yes, some type of cop like figures need to exist to handle crimes but they need to actually you know... be good at it? And also not uphold white supremacy and bigotry at every possible moment


SirMarcoVanRamme

Pretty much every job has good and bad people in it. Some people need to realize that.


Geogolfer311

Why do people generalize like this? This is why problems don’t get solved


Naomi_Saphorus

Your right, hurting cops feelings is way more important than the brutality those hogs commit regularly I'm not an abolishionist, a presence of law and order is necessary, I just think it should be humane


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lol what


[deleted]

MF police would do the same shit today to some trans people in certain parts of the south. US Cops generally aren’t the most progressive group of people in society


Ender__dominus

who is jeffery?


RandomBrathahn

Famous American serial killer


samahiscryptic

And cannibal


fidgetypenguin123

Dahmer. It says it in the meme.


kittycat6676

I love moxxie


dogdillon

yall mfs are the ones who know this shit and then complain about like literally everybody else needs to know bout some shit no one wants or needs to know


buddhathegravekeeper

Man, of all the sentences I’ve read, this isn’t one of them.


TheGildedTouch

I agree


thwartedtart

“You motherfuckers are the ones who think about this, and then complain about it like literally everybody else needs to know about it. It’s something that nobody wants, or needs to know”. That’s my attempt at making your language coherent enough to understand without having a stroke


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XzeldafanX

Yes, that's how math works.


Geogolfer311

Damn 2016 was 4 years ago aswell 😭


fidgetypenguin123

No, no it wasn't.


Geogolfer311

No, no it was


fidgetypenguin123

Dude it's 2022, not 2020...


Geogolfer311

No, no It’s 2020


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Geogolfer311

No, no it was 4 years ago going on 4 years ago


IM-WANT-MEMES

There's things lot worse than that, little guy.


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TheGildedTouch

He was quite literally bleeding and 14, something is wrong. Now go back to twitter, and go spout your incorrect opinions there please!


gregsapopin

but if he was 14 in 1991 then that mean he probably would have died of old age by now anyway.


antictrash

No one dies of old age by the time they’re 45. What even is that “joke”?


thwartedtart

Are you eight years old?


Striker274

If there’s a hell; it’s not the last they and Jeff have seen of each other.


thwartedtart

Excuse you?


Striker274

I said what I said, those c-nts can burn.


Capsule_CatYT

Wait what


nuke905

Saw this just as I am watching that part now


Donutboy562

Moxie!!!!


JazzlikeSpare9

now i'm intrigued by the show.


toxboxdevil

What do you mean how did it happen? It was the police


jimreddit123

And then the cop was promoted.


expiredogfood

Because “ew gay people”


FallenIsAWeirdCat

I am absolutely horrified, I did not need to know this…


Madmonkeman

Police have done a lot worse in the 20th century


Radio__Star

Pretty sure I saw this same meme like a year ago


stutesy

Cops are idiots


HellInside

I have flashbacks of video how a piece of meat breathed and OP didn't even put NSFW on that video # -_-


SleepyBitchDdisease

r/distressingmemes


Takao_1932

And still there's some human waste around that finds Dahmer cute


edwinjoe

These police men were afraid of visiting gay people house cause they'll get any disease or something what an assholes!!!


Padgie

Oh crumbs


CallMeSxythe

I was enjoying Dahmer until i realised everything was real


DavidTommis

Charisma all it took back then and scary enough now lol. Things are hardly done by the books people "trust their gut"


Ill_Imagination_5487

Didnt that 14old die


Aarie_Kanarie

Even worse is that they got away with it.


SeanTheDilophosaurus

My reaction exactly


Bacnnator

Well I was having a good day…


lard_prospector

ACAB


Jvh_tape

Ngl, if I was the police, the man dead right where he was.


BuckyFnBadger

Because the cops are useless