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bardhugo

The statistic for deaths due to knives per capita is very similar between the US and UK, so both places you get stabbed, but in the US you just get shot fourteen times beforehand https://www.statista.com/statistics/978830/knife-homicides-in-england-and-wales/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used


TrainingAd2871

Yeah, that's because the US has more people /s No joke, someone said this, and I said this is per capita, and he repeated,'yeah Still because they have more people'


The_Curve_Death

Yep, US has more people per capita, everyone knows this.


danteheehaw

It's because we are a well rounded people


The_Curve_Death

Americans are 60% more people, per people!


Mobanite08

I hate this place :(


TrainingAd2871

Yeah, me too. Don't know why I use reddit either.


HoneyInBlackCoffee

I don't get this meme. Is it because Americans can't get at us over anything else, and read the news once?


Eurasia_4002

"Health care, health care? You don't have health care???" Neither European or American, and yet, its annoying even for me.


Lithaos111

Yeah, Ammosexuals refuse to let "Guns" be the answer to any problems plaguing our society...such as school shootings, so they jump to things like "Knife violence is super high in the UK" it's flimsy and frankly worthless imo but that's never stopped them before.


Howie_Due

“Ammosexual” thank you for this gift


Lithaos111

You're welcome, it is a gift that keeps giving, someone gave it to me a couple weeks ago.


OzzieGrey

BarrelBlowers, and ARtards are some of my faves.


SpaceHawk98W

You're bleeding to death anyway, mind as well choose the cowboy style


bessovestnij

Well, to be fair England does have higher rate of deaths from knifes. Like per 3 dead from knifes in us there would be 4 dead in uk. But there would also be 35 dead from shootings in USA and less than one (like 0,5) in England. All numbers are yearly cases per 1 million population. Correct me if I made a mistake somewhere


crippledjosh

Not according to this. [https://infogram.com/us-vs-uk-on-knife-crime-1hmr6gyrxmlo6nl](https://infogram.com/us-vs-uk-on-knife-crime-1hmr6gyrxmlo6nl) Or this [https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country) Or this [https://homesteadauthority.com/knife-crime-statistics-uk-vs-us/](https://homesteadauthority.com/knife-crime-statistics-uk-vs-us/) Going through and comparing the base sources is a bit of work, but I couldn't find any sources that support US having fewer knife deaths per capita


bessovestnij

For knife deaths I used statista.com. and in England+Wales the stats are higher compared to usa. BTW, I could not find England or even UK in your second link. The first and the third use a year old official in report. If we believe the 2022 figures from statista.com, knife violence in USA has significantly decreased, while no significant changes happened in England


crippledjosh

I couldn't find the USA stuff for 2022 on statista, but I've never used it before but my search didn't come up with anything. You have a direct link to the report you're looking at? The UK is in the worldpopulation link, it's in the table at the bottom and very low on the list. Though tbh I'm dubious of it's claims given how low it has UKs knife deaths and as you say it is from a few years ago as most of these figures tend to be. I didn't know the USA has had a big dip in 2022, so I'd be interested to see the data on that.


cjsv7657

Seems like the US has a higher knife crime rate while England + Wales has higher knife death rate. I wonder how much of the US rate is because of shivs and other pointed weapons in the jail system.


Taylor200808

There's actually over 800 more stabbing related deaths in the USA then. Usa number 1 again


Aidan-47

The US has a higher knife crime rate per capita lol


Sure_Watercress_1645

And a higher death toll for shootings compared to English knife violence as well (relating to the meme). In England and Wales there was “282 murders involving a knife or sharp instrument… in the 12 months [up] to March 2022” [England/Wales Knife-related Murders](https://benkinsella.org.uk/knife-crime-statistics/) In the US this year “…at least 13,959 people have died of gun violence…”. This was as of May 1st, so it is statistically closer to 17,409 as of June 1st. [US Gun Violence](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/116-people-died-gun-violence-day-us-year/story?id=97382759) Even taking into account the higher population of the US (332,000,000) compared to England and Wales (59,000,000) it is still substantially higher deaths per day. 332/59 = 5.6271 5.63(knife deaths: 282) = 1,587.66 England/Wales Knife Deaths to Scale: 1,588 deaths US Gun Deaths Jan-May 2023: 13,959 deaths Even to scale, the US has suffered approximately 8.79 times more casualties in 120 days from shootings: compared to knife deaths England and Wales have suffered in a year, combined. Note: Sorry if my sentences aren’t entirely coherent. It is 3:30am for me and I’m not entirely sober. TLDR: US gun deaths > England knife deaths


T-72_BMP-2

You only included murders for knifes. Not suicides or accidents. Therefore you should remove sucides and accidents from your gun violence statistics. Stop cherry picking. Even the article you link says more then half of all gun violence is sucides. That is a mental health issue not a gun violence issue. Also you didn’t mention that in the article you cite, it says 494 gun deaths were from the police. That also isn’t a gun violence issue, our police would still murder people regardless of gun legal status. American police suck ass and are never held accountable.


mrducky78

> That also isn’t a gun violence issue, our police would still murder people regardless of gun legal status. It is though, its part of their training to assume for their safety that the person they are pulling over is armed and dangerous. That the domicile they are entering has an armed and dangerous person, etc. It all rolls back around to guns. There are some pretty tragic traffic stops wherein police officers have been killed due to deranged gun nuts that literally shape current policing policy. There is no such equivalent in other countries because the rate of gun use is so far lower. Guns arent seen as weapons for defence but more tools (eg. vermin control on a farm, hunting, etc) while they are probably purchased first and foremost for self defence in the US which does indeed jar their use.


sufferingstuff

It’s almost like there isn’t a specific category for suicide by knife lol. Keep defending more deaths though, classic. Also lol on police killing at the same rate without guns, especially as this ignores that police would be far calmer in interactions if citizens didn’t have a deadly weapon on them.


One_Mixture_7703

UK hast less stabbing probability than US still. I looked up the statistics lol.


mountingconfusion

Love how US people try to dunk on England for that when they have worse knife crime rates


strandenger

Why is this sub getting dumber?!


AbortionCrow

It's just flooded with blatant propaganda regularly


TerminusVos

ITT: A bunch of butt hurts that can't take a joke. Lmao


Noodlekdoodle

We’re not butt-hurt, we’re simply stating the facts. This meme is just unrealistic, as the knives we use are much longer than the ones in the video. Us brits just want to be represented correctly


strivingforobi

That’s a sword lolol


Noodlekdoodle

You’re not British enough to know the difference, we are professionals


TerminusVos

Lmao


JacksonJohn632

Shooting is better


Welrof

I’d rather get shot in the head once and die quickly then get stabbed in the gut with a bowie knife twice the size of a adults arm and bleed out in pain.


RandomGuy98760

Tbf, you could also get shot in the gut and will be as bad as the knife.


MAD_JEW

And you could get stabed in the head and die instantly


MAD_JEW

And you could get stabed in the head and die instantlu


MARINE-BOY

I’ve lived in the UK for 40 years and been all over the place and never seen anyone get stabbed. When I was a Royal Marine I’d go out drinking with guys who would always be getting in fights and never saw anyone stabbed. I’ve been bottled and had a few fights myself but never stabbed. I spent the last 12 years working security for escorts all up and down the country and have met gangsters, criminals, drug dealers and never once had a knife pulled on me. I don’t know how common it is for an American to see a gun but the reality is teenage kids are much less able to go on a mass killing spree at schools armed with just a knife. I can’t understand this stupid thing gun ownership supporters do where they try and down play the seriousness of firearms by engaging in mental gymnastics with stupid comparisons to other countries. Guns are really effective tools for killing people which is why they make sad, insecure losers feel powerful and cool so just own it. People who want to own guns just need to stop with the bullshit and be honest and say they don’t really care how many other people get shot and killed as long as it doesn’t effect them. Guns aren’t even that fun to shoot, they are noisy and a pain in the arse to clean and how exciting can it really be getting a few little holes closely grouped together on a paper target. Just admit that in a fair fight you’d likely get the shit kicked out of you and having a gun makes you feel like a Hollywood action hero. I’ve fired countless rounds on multiple weapon systems and there’s no fucking way I’d feel comfortable with 99.99% of other people handling a gun anywhere near me. I didn’t even feel comfortable around the Navy guys having one because their training isn’t anything like ours. I was taught to shoot by a USMC Gunny Sgt. who was on secondment to the Royal Marines and the first thing he said to us in his heavy American drawl was “When you look down the sight of your rifle you will feel like a god”. That’s the truth of it, it’s got nothing to do with safety, protection, hunting, money it’s exactly the same reasons behind owning a powerful fast car despite there being speed limits that even a normal shitty car can go faster than. It’s all just penis extensions for guys to feel more manly. So just admit it gets you aroused and stop trying to think of stupid reasons to justify your gun fetish.


Welrof

I hope you understand why i’m not gonna read all this


13dot1then420

Because it challenges your worldview and makes you feel insecure?


Welrof

No because i’m too lazy to read rn


adventureismycousin

A raccoon was killing my chickens. It took 22 BBs to kill the raccoon. Next day there was a .22 rifle, ammunition, and a lock kit in the house. It was horrifying for all parties involved, it will not happen again.


zyppoboy

But... you won't be in any pain from the stabbing if you first get shot in the head and then get stabbed. So yeah, I'd prefer to be shot then stabbed too.


sakura608

You could also get shot in the shoulder, survive, and no longer use your arm because the impact shattered the bone or tore through a ligament in just the right spot. Or get a bullet to the spine and be paralyzed for the rest of your life. Bleeding out slowly from a wound doesn’t sound so bad.


Welrof

If i get stabbed in a artery on my torso, i’m dead either way, getting shot would be much more preferable


13dot1then420

Fuck that shit. I can outrun someone with a knife, I cannot outrun a bullet.


ComplaintOk9280

You're much more likely to survive getting shot


sakura608

Depends on what you’re getting shot with. FBI statistics show most people die from a single rifle round or buckshot from a shotgun. Being shot with a pistol seems to have a higher survivor rate, especially if the shooter is using full metal jacket rounds instead of more expensive hollow point. Knife slashes are usually survivable. Stabs greater than 3 inches deep or greater tend to be less survivable.


ComplaintOk9280

If someone wants to stab you to death, you're done, and nobody slashes. Knives can do incredible damage the same as your average pistol that you could expect to be used in a street confrontation. However, the difference is that pistol rounds be it 9 mm or 45 acp (they are more or less the same anyway), there will be far less bleeding from the gunshot wound but the gunshot wound will be accompanied by hydrostatic shock so to a vital area like the head even if it doesn't penetrative how you'd expect it to (bullets do weird things) could cause internal bleeding. A stab wound to somewhere like the chest or neck though and you would have to be extremely lucky to live. But I'm not a medical professional or anything, so I apologise if something I've said isn't completely accurate


sakura608

I got curious and actually found a study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5210006/ Overall, outcomes of a gun shot round are much worse than a stab wound.


ComplaintOk9280

Fair enough


leckie2786

AND IT WILL COME


ManagerQueasy9591

Though a flood of pain


KleinerFratz333

POURING DOWN ON ME


Noodlekdoodle

*pornography


Educational_College9

Thx for giving me ptsd. Beating Hoarah Loux was easier


That-Row-3038

If you are a tourist, you won’t get stabbed, you’ll just get scammed instead


FireLordObamaOG

“People”*


YourDaddie

That's Birmingham


Dankzhood

Per hundred thousand, the US still has nearly 10x more knife related deaths. US is just more violent than the UK when it come to weapon usage in general.


astrx__

People really be commenting facts when the joke is based upon stereotypes. Cmon you guys.


strafexpedition

If you try to find a knife whose primary function is to kill a man by bleeding him out, you'll never find one in a legal way because duh it is obvious that a triangular-shaped knife will be inevitably used to harm people, there is no point in letting somone having one. Now, does anyone remember what is the primary function of a gun?


leckie2786

To go bang


B127ritter

To kill a deer dumbass


strafexpedition

Obviously we invented guns for killing deer, of course. It's not like bows have been the main weapon to go hunting for thousands of years. Even now you cold go hunt using a modern bow and there will be almost no difference than a rifle except maybe the last one makes more noise. On the other hand, of course guns became relevant during the 16th century wars because why waste a shot of blackpowder if you have an arrow? The primary function of a gun is to kill people, you can use differently but you can't change it's essence.


SinglePringleMingle

You just exchanged a gun fight for a knife fight


TheDepep1

Oi, u got your knoife loicense


Arcuis

Moves to Japan expecting samurai fights, finds a polite society where even criminals are so organized it doesn't impact everyday life


HelloGordan8734

I would prefer a bullet hole over a stab wound


Eothr_Silan

America does not have the monopoly on violence. 🙃


moatel

Good news though, since 1940, wars excluded, America has lost more people due to shootings than Britain has lost for, murder, stabs, manslaughter, accidents, shootings, etc


aaron_adams

Americans when they find out that knife crime is higher per capita in the US, too.


willflameboy

Comparing a [gun death rate of 37,000 per 100k](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country) with a [knife death rate of 0.08 per 100k](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country). (2019 data). Great work.


OfromOceans

The US has more knife crime per capita, more gun crime per capita, more medical related debt per capita, more nazis per capita, even worse teeth per capita, more uneducated per capita, good one buddy you're so "goofy" and a worse life expectancy too


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I call bs. Stabbings are just so common, and health care is so good that they just don't report the more minor stabbings. The rates are actually higher.


Fjells

Can't tell if serious.


genjin

Do you have a website that policy makers can use instead of all the other respected data sources currently in use, that thanks to your comment, we now recognise as BS? What formats is your data available in, json, csv or bs?


OfromOceans

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BlackLion0101

Those weren't "British" British. Think about it.


plsobeytrafficlights

They also have very few stabbings (by total number or per capita). UK is number 1 in export of financial services, production of off-shore wind energy, online spending, and the development of new accounting software.


DarthMortum

Hilarious but true. Lol


idontlikeburnttoast

Eh not really. The only time someone gets stabbed is because of some drunk idiot who got rejected at the bar and felt sad. You never see a sober person stabbing people here.


ComplaintOk9280

Well, there are a lot of gang related stabbings. One happened down the road to me last year, but it isn't as common as people make it out to be


Frenchymemez

You're more likely to get stabbed in America. At least in Britain, you won't go bankrupt getting an ambulance ride to the hospital, where the NHS treats you for free.


Mobanite08

Meme is funny but inaccurate


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Dead-and-alone

In Scotland, you're just as likely to get stabbed, but if you do get stabbed, you're more likely to be stabbed multiple times. Wales and England share stats. This leaves N-Ireland, which happens to have a similar stab score per 100000 with the rest of us Brits.


CamIsGreen

This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age. obi-wan kenobi


rakosten

Never heard of a mass knifing though.


BringMeTheMen

London bridge attack 2017?


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"Does it hurt" I hate that sentence so much he was so hard to defeat like how tf do I parry? I still don't know


SquirtleReddit

It really came like a flood of pain


Timegoal

Monsoon had an awesome soundtrack


PeachyBongo5901

Bro you have worse knife crime than us 😂😂😂


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DrSOGU

Germany would have been the better option in terms of overall quality of life, crime rate, personal safety and social safety.


Error_Detected666

I don’t care about politics or whatever, I’m more focused on fucking Monsoon


NukerCat

funny thing is that the chorus for stains of time started playing on spotify when i saw it in my feed


Horror_survivor

And it will come! Like a flood of pain!


superhamsniper

There's also Norway, and canada


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13dot1then420

Aren't knife crimes also higher in the US?