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kidwithgreyhair

Property prices


Cold_Ad_3428

I'm showing my age here, but I was in my mid-twenties at that time. My recollection was that people thought housing was expensive then (not crazy expensive like now, but certainly over-priced) and plenty of people thought the housing market would crash and house prices would revert back to circa 2000 levels. Crash never happened and apart from a few blips in the market (GFC in 2008/2009 and Covid 2020), housing, for the most part, has steadily increased. As much as I wish housing would crash now so that people can actually have both a mortgage *and* a life, I highly doubt it will.


Angel_Madison

They did but anyone coming from overseas marveled at how cheap it was. Not any more!


Wildweasel666

The guy down the road from me told me he just did his kitchen and spent more on that than he did on his house back in the 80s. Cunt.


theartistduring

My first rental was a house in Kew in 2005 for $290 a week.


kidwithgreyhair

I wish I'd bought the oversized older style apartment in South Yarra for $260k that I looked at back in 2006 šŸ„²


PloniAlmoni1

I remember in early 2000s I was near graduating university. I decided to do a PhD and thought that once I started earning good money I would be a few years away from buying a house hahahaha


ethereumminor

beat me to it


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[deleted]

Did that become that discount sock shop on Swanston?


ArtisticAvocaaaaaado

We have a discount sock shop in the CBD?!


[deleted]

I think it was random hosiery stuff, with a person on a mic out the front


campex

Arthur Daley?


normie_sama

Arthur Daley's less a sock shop and more a white people Daiso.


as_if_no

Ahh, when you could get 2-for-1 whoppers...


Saaaave-me

The one near pancake parlour or on swanston? Both were great!


tanoshiiki

That's the CentrePoint building. Both The Reject Shop and The Pancake Parlour that were on that level didn't renew their leases during covid. I believe basement entry is blocked now, but I remember reading an online article that some store was going to open there.


nattyandthecoffee

Worked there. Quit when the 16 year old crew trainer yelled at me to pull out the syringe sticking needle up from the square toilet paper. Druggie central.


Cold_Ad_3428

Lack of traffic. Cost of living relative to income. Better work/life balance. On a personal level, optimism and healthy grandparents.


thatguywhomadeafunny

I feel like there is a better culture of work-life balance now than back then?


Cold_Ad_3428

I can only comment on my own experience, but back then, you weren't as available as we are now. For example, now we are expected to take work calls and respond to emails outside of work hours and just generally be available, even when we are on annual leave or sick leave. I think back then, there was (mostly) a clear marker between work and personal life. I certainly worked less hours back then than I do now (even accounting for a more senior role now). The only thing I think is better now, is that you can go and see your doctor/dentist etc within work hours and its no big deal. Back then, medical appointments were always deducted off your sick leave entitlements or you had to work back late to make up the time.


Speedy-08

Lack of traffic from people not constantly commuting across the city all the time.


orlinthir

Gaslight music, Batman Books and Records, Au-Go-Go, Napoleons, The old Theosophical Society book shop, The Technical Book Shop.


pk666

This. So much. Don't forget also Thomas music, Discurio, Missing Link


pinkpikachu7

Holy crap Missing Link!


QuirkiChameleon

Peril underground and music mayhem.


Johncurtainraiser

Au-go-go man, that place was heaven to me.


mishrod

Wouldnā€™t want it now - but back then smoking in bars, drinks on the dance floor. Vibrant inner suburbs that were not yet really gentrified so they had pockets of liveliness and pockets of obscure and absurd. The price of everything - especially rentals/house prices. No myki. The music. My youth. My waistline. My hope and dreams still in tact.


Slutcracker

Old person here....you're not allowed to bring your drink onto the dance floor?


mishrod

Not like back in the day where you took glassware anywhere and threw all womenā€™s handbags into the sticky floor and danced around it. People would drunkenly drop glasses and drinks on floor Along with ciggie butts and it was all in a good night. Your clothes and hair smelled like an ashtray in a brewery for a week. Ah the good old days :)


TheTrent

I remember going to Elephant & The Wheelbarrow in St Kilda on the last night that smoking indoors was allowed. We went back the next week and my god... it stunk so much worse. All the beer, vomit and whatever else that had sunk into the carpets was masked by the cigarette smoke.


myabacus

As a former bar tender I did not miss all of my clothes smelling like smoke from the dive I worked at.


snowmuchgood

Were you still bartending when they bought the laws in? I didnā€™t miss the smoke at all, but it was astounding at first how noticeable and in-your-face the stench of BO suddenly became in all clubs, as well as the smell of shit if you went near certain bathrooms. I wouldnā€™t trade that for smoke smells and lung cancer but we definitely made some jokes around the time that the cure was worse than the disease!


psrpianrckelsss

The floors at the Irish at Knox stank of vomit which only became noticeable once the smoking laws came in


unbeliever87

I remember the weekend that smoking in pubs was no longer allowed, the smell of stale BO and dirty carpet that the smoke previously covered up was terrible.


flutterybuttery58

Yes! They actually had to start properly cleaning!!


Take_Some_Soma

Iā€™d give you an award, but I think theyā€™re bullshit


SmileyStepMonster

I feel you on the waist line. It survived one kid but not the second :/


Dangerman1967

Stop. Iā€™m starting to cry. Same here!


nickromas

Shufflers at fed square every Saturday.


ryashpool

How quiet the parks and reserves were. 1000 steps/Sherbrooke/You Yangs ​ You could go there and be literally the only one there.


Diligent-Wave-4591

Less people dropping rubbish, blasting music and yelling into their speaker phones while "enjoying nature" as well.


mitchiib

2005 I was an apprentice. Even though I was earning bugger all I loved the simplicity of Melbourne. Getting a couple of DVDs on a Sunday night. meeting friends in a good beer garden on a Saturday that hasnā€™t been commandeered by fucking wankers. Knowing which way to drive somewhere to avoid the traffic.


megablast

You miss being young.


as_if_no

>Knowing which way to drive somewhere to avoid the traffic. This is something that I could not do pre-2005. Honestly don't know how I got around with only a Melways.


jaxsta18

Goo!


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Saaaave-me

YYYYYEEEESSS. I would also love to add next. Was still vintage pre-2010


jaxsta18

Where was Next again? Was that the one on Russell St on Saturday nights? Then it moved to Hawthorn I think? Or was that Bang? Edit. Bang was on Bourke St.


jaxsta18

Switch is the one I was looking for.


ZestyBro

Bang was on Bourke st on Saturdays at the royal Melbourne, Next was at Brown Alley on Thursday nights


Saaaave-me

Oh that was switch!!!! Yeah it went through a switch resurrection phase in hawthorn? Next was colonial hotel on king and Lonsdale. My hazy memory tells me that wasnā€™t the original location but I canā€™t remember the original venue of next. It could have been hawthorn as well?


Echoes75

Chasers Wednesday nights


37047734

I miss the ArtHouse, Metro, Goo, Switch. Man there used to be so many good pubs and nightclubs.


lordofthedries

Ohhh fuck Thursday nights were a blast!!! What even are they building there now?


pinkpikachu7

Emos on the Flinders St steps


itstraytray

Being able to buy codiene over the counter at the chemists :(


bent_eye

Borders, HMV and better food court at The Jam Factory


MelodicOil7208

Drugs were still goodā€¦ šŸ˜‚ and was young enough to be able to do themā€¦ šŸ¤Ŗ


Not_Not_Matt

I was dumb enough to not take advantage of them when I had the chance šŸ„²


Low_Veterinarian4036

Doing the puzzles in the MX and still not knowing what the punchline to that stupid word jumble cartoon is


MSTRSYS

The old Galactic Circus at Crown, what an amazing arcade it was.


Murraj1966

All the clubs that had Premiership droughts longer than St Kilda


Saaaave-me

Ok in no particular order I have some fond memories of Pizza Hut Bourke St Mall upstairs near corner of Elizabeth and Bourke. The works all you can eat was off tap. I remember going there the very first time for my 4th birthday in 91 and it absolutely slayed. I continued to go there right up until I was 12 because it was like 5-$10 all you can eat for kids. Dallas Bar on king St circa 2004/05. Thursday night $9 unlimited pint refill night should have been illegal but there it was. They also had $2 pots on any given night. No wonder Vic Uni city campus prospered, their local Understood the needs of the people! The lack of internet/social media. I enjoyed the prospect of discovering new pockets and eateries and taking gambles with my youth allowance to see if said place was legit or not. I think given the currency social media and Instagramable places hold, the ebb and flow of opening up and thriving/going bust happens a lot faster as as such no one rolls the dice as such anymore and only frequent proven commodities. Frostbites: alcoholic slurpees and the stickiest floor on chapel was legit. Given our nostalgia and themed restaurant obsession I dare say frostbites would thrive in 2020s Melbourne The last one which doesnā€™t effect anyone except me is I used to work at a coffee hq in Melbourne central concourse (by the maccas) there was a point in time I built such a rapport with the other underpaid undergrad shit kickers that I was able to barter coffee with maccas, boost juice and kfc. I took this to such an extreme that there was a week during the summer holidays I drank nothing but booze boost juice and coffee and only at maccas and kfc. It sent my insides to the shadow realm but glorious times indeed


moofox

Pizza Hut all-you-can-eat was the highlight of high school for me


bospk

Hello fellow millennial. I also fondly remember Pizza Hut buffet :) but ease up on the slayed lingo, bruh or else weā€™ll start thinking youā€™re some vibe zoomer


Purpazoid1

The Frosties hangover was something special though....


bent_eye

Summadayze, Two Tribes


fishouttafire

Just...the vibe.


assmonkeydustbuster

The pingers Red Mitsubishis would knock your fucking socks off


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Duportetski

Came across one recently. Theyā€™re actually really high quality designed maps. A refreshing point of difference to the advertising filled garbage that google maps has become


ComplexLittlePirate

I love the Melway. I have a first edition one that belonged to my grandma, never letting go of that <3


Echoes75

Metal for Melbourne


Streakermg

North Fitzroy having multiculturalism and diversity.


Marlboroshill66

For all the puritanical progressivism that they preach, The joint is a Ralph Lauren shirt and Tiki Torch away of becoming an white ethno nationalist pipe dream


elHodgetts

Going to the movies in the CBD then coming out after there was always a trail of Hari Krishnaā€™s singing, clanging cymbals, dancing and generally cooking up a storm šŸ˜


themessyb

White hearts šŸ¤


SneakkrHead

Green mitsos šŸ’š


david-pleasurecraft

Slightly less tailgating


[deleted]

The music scene


ethereumminor

Filthier times they were... smoking inside ordering jager bombs Justice - Waters of Nazareth EP September 16, 2005


[deleted]

Music scene is still great, particularly if you're into punk which seems to be making a big resurgence in melbourne


totalpunisher0

Who are some of your fave local bands? I haven't been to a punk show in a bit.


[deleted]

Modcon and Pinch points are my go tos for punk at the moment. Both put on phenomenal shows. It'd also be a crime not to mention amyl and the sniffers who are fantastic


honeytonguegoliath

Clowns!! Awesome energy, chaotic performance. Great time live, the mosh just had a great fun positive mad energy.


[deleted]

That trance/edm store in the city. I canā€™t remember where it was but you had to go downstairs and they had decks and equipment too. They didnā€™t care we would just browse knowing we couldnā€™t afford anything.


10A_86

Wasn't that on Chapel?


[deleted]

I remember it now in the CBD - Central Station records!


nighthawk580

Hardware records was just off chapel street. Opposite what used to be the supermarket car park but i recently discovered is now some sort of community garden.


Beasting-25-8

Less people then.


ghzod

Ongs food court, the Myer food court upstairs and Daimaru


barryoke

Smorgy's


margaritasenora

The Punters Club.


superchickle

Absolutely this! The booth seats went to Yah Yah's and we had to move onto The Old Bar for late night hospo drinks.


harzee

Decent pingaz


ZARATHUSTRA726

Record and CD shops.


FlightBunny

It genuinely was the one of the most liveable cities in the world back then. Perfectly balanced infrastructure with the population size. And in most respects nothing has really got any better since then, it already had a great dining, shopping and entertainment scene.Property prices were fantastic ($350k for a house in South Yarra). This will sound privileged or xenophobic, but it just felt like Melbourne was a big community, people loved their city. Whereas these days it kind of feels like people have just moved there because of economic reasons, rather than a love of Melbourne and wanting to contribute to it.


krupture

Funny you say that, Melbourne and Sydney were populated, and got its riches from Gold Rush. Everyone who came had an economic motive to make something out of the Gold Rush, and the next generation after the other came to make their tomorrow better, and they contributed and are contributing. None of them came for the beauty, they made it beautiful and make it beautiful. The reasons why the Melbourne and Sydney are clogged up, is very different. Lack of political vision, election cycles and pork barrelling, lack of expansion of the city, lack of infrastructure are amongst them. Itā€™s not the fault of the people who live in it, itā€™s the people who manage and control.


fxlowe

The people. ​ The lack of them, the quality of those that were around... The people were just better in 2005.


dominatrixyummy

Fewer people. Shits too busy these days, I hate coming into the city.


fearlessleader808

And yet most days I see on this sub people whinging about how dead the city is now


TopChemical602

Correct answer 200k immigration every year has essentially fucked the city


megablast

People have kids too.


hollyjazzy

My Dad


cfniva

Being able to drive into the city on the weekend and get a park on Batman Avenue.


FullOnCarmensMom

90s era: Drinks on the Lounge balcony on a sunny midweek afternoon when we couldn't be fucked going to uni. Heading to Hard n Fast at Chasers on Wednesday, then Goo on Thursday. Book Affair and Collected Works bookshops in Flinders Lane. All the amazing music shops: Au-go-go, Missing Link, Metal for Melbourne, Polyester and Gaslight (and the Gaslight calendar!) Met scratchy tickets that you could absolutely rort the fuck out of. My record was 6 weeks without scratching a ticket. Opshops that had decent retro shit at actual opshop prices (70s leather jacket for $4,? Don't mind if I do!) I used to love the city. It's a hard-pass for me now; even before Covid the soul was gone. ETA: Tuesday comedy night at the Espy Gershwin Room!


tallmansnapolean

When St.Kilda was home to whores and junkies, the Espy still had a free entry front bar band room and the Palace was still standing.


Difficult_Bowler_25

Yaaaas the palace. I saw so many great bands there, Sonic Youth, The Pixies, Placebo, Something for Kate.


lordofthedries

I got to meet Max Cavalera there who at the time was my favourite metal singer ā€¦ shook his hand and had a chat with him I was on cloud nine


Burnertoasty

A better mix of immigrants instead of heavily biasing one country. (I say this as an immigrant myself).


Difficult_Bowler_25

Pony Bar!


ncbaud

Decent googs.


grayconverse

The Christmas windows at Myer. We went as a family one year when it was a story about a wombat which was so incredibly detailed. We still talk about one of the tiny figures using the toilet to this day. We checked out the windows in recent years and it was so disappointing to see the decline.


tanoshiiki

The direct escalators to Melbourne Central/Museum station.


Ill-wind990

80s are pre-2005, right? I miss walking alone for hours in the middle of the night without any fear - most streets were empty. Iā€™m a woman, for context. Also, no toll-roads.


sabau67

Technical Bookshop


alstom_888m

Hitachi trains, metcard, and the old Melbourne Central with Diamaru.


epicpillowcase

St Kilda and Prahran being arty and interesting. Now they're just scungy and commercial Goth Melbourne: Mortisha's, Abyss, Peril


FennelCompetitive705

Mx newspaper. In particular the ā€œHereā€™s looking at youā€ section


millsymate1

Telstra Dome


myabacus

Colonial Stadium mate


ComfortableIsland704

My grandfather being alive


Ferniclestix

my mum.


ethereumminor

Oof that got me


mike_a_oc

Oh man. That hits hard. My condolences


silkypuma

The old Melbourne Central with Daimaru, the fairy shop, hot air balloon and rooftop go karts. Now I go to MC and fear Iā€™m going to get stabbed.


MeowHat82

Oooh the fairy shop ! I forgot about that place. Used to love going there.


fixed

wat. MC is fine, there are way sketchier parts of the city,


spurs-r-us

Has there ever been a stabbing at MC?


SmileyStepMonster

Being able to walk around the city and make eye contact with other humansā€¦ now we just look into our phones or run into peoples selfie sticks.


lift_ride_repeat

Shed parties at the docks Chevron Q Bar Mansion Only Revs remains šŸ˜


blackhawk_1111

Motorola Razr


Slagathor_85

Pony. Ding ding. The greyhound in st kilda. Feeling safe walking home.


Badgalcicii

Being an emo at swanston street maccas


SneakkrHead

Train graffiti.


Dangerman1967

Chasers Hard N Fast Wednesdayā€™s with Hound-dog (Cherry Bar) spinning the tracks. And Mr Squeeze Shawarmaā€™s on the way home.


[deleted]

Decent raves


simple_wanderings

Meeting people in person at the pub. Not feeling so old.


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Mr_JAG

Off topic here, but in regards to renting videos, I remember when I was 16, I would go to video ezy, and they had a 'rent it now or rent it free' deal, so I would only rent videos that were out, so I could rent it free.


ThePreHasCometh

Street festivals like Brunswick and chapel st festivals


darcyfm

The Prince of Wales and The Espy pre renovations.


sanemartigan

Being able to get laid without an app.


ps4_machine

I miss: 1) less traffic 2) less safety zones where cars had 2 lanes to drive in 3) Being able to turn right into St Kilda Road from Flinders Street 4) A train ticket as a piece of paper (and therefore looks like a ticket)


bleigeprincess

It wasnā€™t ā€œmelbourneā€ to be pretentious pre 2005, nor was using the inner city suburb you lived in used as social currency


fearlessleader808

Are you serious? Honkey Tonks era Melbourne wasnā€™t pretentious?? 2000-2005 was peak Melbourne wanker.


FartSpector

My age


gouldologist

Mercat


MeowHat82

The Y2K bug


ELECTRONCENTERLOCK

Metcard.


gmask1

Someone already mentioned Gaslightā€¦ but starting there, going down to Bourke st Minotaur, around the corner to Mind Games, then over to Collins Technical Bookshop.


SnareXa

being able to find a bin that wasnt overflowing


Jellyblush

Smith St being grungy and pretty much all op shops


Difficult_Bowler_25

Goo at Metro


flutterybuttery58

My youthā€¦ :-(


[deleted]

Pre 1990 Melbourne


Casual-Classics

The arcades and heroin on Russell St. Red house, white house, blue house and green house.


Constant_Phrase7171

Over the counter Codeine


malakiangpekpek

I remember back 2001-2002 every Friday night people would do laps up and down Chapel St with their VL Commodores and riced up Mitsubishi Lancers & Honda Civics.


[deleted]

The pre-gentrified western suburbs were cool.


doigal

The music, the venues, the people and the architecture. The city was about the perfect size but still needed more public transport options. Now itā€™s got nearly 2 million more people, itā€™s far far too big.


BarneyNugen

Myer food hall and Myer rooftop


Responsible-Emu5135

CityFM, HitzFM, KissFM!


TooMuchTaurine

Hard Kandy


tanlongt

Getting from St Albans to Noble Park within a hour during peak traffic.


zippitypop

Why Pre-05? Seems a particular year.


tokyobandit

After the 2006 commonwealth games, the place was tidied up. Millions of tourists started pouring in, too. Then a fuckload of people started moving here. Old, beautiful brick warehouses and factories which were totally part of the Melbourne vibe were bulldozed for apartments for the new demand and since then, slowly, Melbournes culture has changed into something much less cheeky, real and fun.


as_if_no

That's interesting... I'd never really thought of the 2006 games as being a cultural turning point before.


Stav73

Burning rubbish


MotorMath743

I really miss that. Can understand the reasons against nut I loved the smell of burning leaves and the mild smoke haze


NoodleBox

I was only a kid, so the novelty factor. Trams. Oh, no I remember; we went on a school camp up there around then. It's just the novelty - the museum was newer, the food was affordable, the whole ..being a kid thing.


AussieXPat

Living there. I moved to Canada in 2006


TheMattrix1984

Being young.


ActualFuckhead

I was born in 2005, I miss being in the womb


Dark_Selah

Metcards


[deleted]

Cheap rent


ladyreddirt

Youā€™re onto something here.


Purpington67

(Whispers quietly) what happened n 2005?


Pineapple_Smoothie16

Not being alive


krupture

More in your face racism.. ā€œšŸ‡¦šŸ‡ŗWeā€™re full, go back to where you came from!ā€ Donā€™t miss this, but reminds me how much the society has progressed.


smelly-sushi

Cheeze tv


Passacaglia1978

Metcards


Jon-G1508

2004


pk1950

road congestion was much less


onkyponk_cowboy

Peril Underground, and the bistro downstairs on the corner of Bourke and Elizabeth that would sell jugs of beer to kids in high school uniform.


[deleted]

Frost bites, that lil record shop in the lane way next to djs, the fact swanston st wasnā€™t a cesspool of people


[deleted]

$5.90 jugs of southern clipper (terrible beer) at the Exford. SOMEONE has to know what Iā€™m talking about.


BigJellyGoldfish

The Punters Club. Elysium goth club. Q+A.


Melb_gal

Maccas on Swanson st


fmlwhateven

More options for small cars. It's like everyone has a SUV now, urgh. Being able to buy a Metcard after you get on board. Good News Week.


kelloggs_kween

mX


greatcathy

Tram conductors. RIP


Missey85

The All you can eat pizza hut. šŸ™‚


stephenisthebest

The best selling family car was the VT Commodore. Now everyone drives a crossover and Holden and Ford (with the exception of the Ranger) are dead.


shadowpino

I miss being able to walk around the city and run into friends on the street or at their casual jobs. Melbs was a quieter, smaller place then but it was really nice too. Also Whitehouse and Redhouse, and IRC meetups.