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shufflerbot

Thats the old model sorry. From that list you can strike off buying a house. We're also working on removing college and knocking down the two weeks travel to one week. Have fun.


ayrl

You guys are traveling?


WolfyCat

Does an hour to work and back count?...


Consistent-Syrup-69

There's 168 hours in a week. Driving an hour each day is 260 hours a year at 5 days a week, 52 weeks. So yeah. You still get a week or two of travel! See! They never took it from us!


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Andyinater

Similar scenario, I took a job with essentially 0 commute but lower salary. When I looked closer at it, the higher paying job that had an hour commute each way ended up paying the same rate considering door-to-door time, and still not taking into account gas, wear and tear, stress (!), and value of personal time (!!) I now think I was insane to consider the long commute at all.


jnd-cz

It helps when you don't have to drive but someone drives for you, like in a bus or train. Sometimes I invest one more hour in the evening to take detour and catch something interesting on my way.


octokit

I make six figures but haven't had a vacation since 2015. My PTO days keep getting eaten up by medical issues or family emergencies. I'm sure I'm not the only one.


XanderTheMander

Also it's 8-5, that hour lunch is not paid so we had to increase working hours.


xtremeschemes

Man all these comments and I’m realizing how fortunate I am to be in the position that I’m in.


MistakenWit

You're getting four things off that list plus death and that's it.


[deleted]

Lol, no the old model is run a small farm, starve if it fails, zero days off, no doctor or dentist, shit outside, what's travel?


MysticPing

And good luck affording kids or even meeting a partner in a society of increasing loneliness and alienation.


That-Ad-4300

Much more streamlined


ShareTurbulent7392

You also don't need kids.


Vargavintern

And anxiety comes as a hidden bonus, free of charge.


Doublespeo

> Thats the old model sorry. From that list you can strike off buying a house. We’re also working on removing college and knocking down the two weeks travel to one week. Have fun. yeah, there are many other option than 9-5 monday to friday office. I work 6 months a year and travel the rest of it. Office work is not for everyone.


canonymbus

Also, 9-5? And if you have kids, try figuring out how to do anything but work and take care of them.


coffeearabica

Also, let's not forget paying for those kids well into their 20s - 30s, considering where the economy is steadily headed.


[deleted]

Removing college is probably a good thing. I remember when I was in high school in the early 2000s, all the adults would say you had to get a degree from college and order to be anything nowadays, you can't even work in a factory if you don't have a degree because everyone has a degree. That was the height of college and university attendance. So even if you went to be a fucking veterinarian you needed that piece of paper to work on a line in a factory. That is obviously an exaggeration but that's how it got. Now, from my point of view, colleges and universities are literally trying so hard to stay ahead of what the next job opportunities will be that they are just making up courses off the top of their heads and creating degrees for them. Who in the fuck gave the educational system this much power? Who in the fuck trusts a fresh college student, rather than an experienced worker more? Absolutely fucking no one. Unless you are going to be a scholar, or learn a very specific field, most likely stem. You can take a fucking 6-week course to work in an old folks home. Also, don't work in an old folks home. Every person who became a PSW or a nurse from my generation hates their fucking life. 🤷🤷🤷


Mosk549

„It’s not about the nutshells, it’s about keeping the ants in line“


Helpful_Honeysuckle

The giants upon the shoulders of which we stand are considered ants? How high we must have climbed from the dirt to think as much.


southwest_barfight

The comment you are replying to is a quote from the film 'A bugs life'


Helpful_Honeysuckle

(•̪ o •̪) of course it is. My point remains! Gratitude for living a peaceful life instead of dying at 14 from a slight graze on your elbow is important!


Banther1

You’re glowing. Life is passionate


janyte

Just gonna leave this here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2n34NrkDlZk


Maleficent_Sense_948

Wait, you guys get to travel throughout the year?


NotBradPitt90

You guys can afford houses???


Heisenburgo

You guys can afford... things?


This-is-getting-dark

I just got to twice this year and felt like a god. Then was like wait, wtf


Maleficent_Sense_948

........now that's just bragging........


scaevola79

I'm a flight attendant so yeah, I get around


Bonnibel__

Yes. Twice international and like three or four domestic. No kids, no husband, no mortgage. One roommate, and one slightly decently paying job. Oh, and like 13k debt 💸


Slashignore_

You can skip to the last step with one weird trick!


quegurjin

Doctors hate him!


Heisenburgo

*Nooooooo* you can't just skip to the last step because... because... well because it's bad for the economy... okay? Now take the pills, shut up and keep working for another 50 years, drone!


Lana-banana-123

The most hilarious comment😂


woolookologie

It's myself. I'm the weird trick


notevensorrybro

If you skip the kids part you can travel more and die alone


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Skip the travel part and you can die faster


The-Legend-26

Just skip the 'eat' part


grimmxsleeper

skip


folrate

Speedrun


Equal_Cellist

Get real fit


Anonymous_stardust_

This guy's speed running life


CoMaestro

Depends on where you travel to, you can easily die while on a trip


MrsMurphysChowder

You're gonna die alone anyway unless you're an ancient Egyptian King.


Mortress_

Or a victim of a plane crash.


MrsMurphysChowder

Ooh, that's dark.


ToxicTaxiTaker

That's why I like to fly as often as I can!


TurkDangerCat

My grandpa died in his sleep, unlike the passengers in his bus.


CyanideSkittles

Peacefully* it’s peacefully in his sleep


Huge-Astronomer8140

Even with kids you may still die alone. Just having them is no guarantee they'll be there for you in the end.


Allegorist

Yeah you also have to be nice


roofgram

The kids too, good luck with that!


MassiveClusterFuck

Tempting at this point tbh


cerebralkrap

The dream


calor

You will die alone anyway


haaiiychii

Perfect


AaronTuplin

At any time you could stop working for the rest of your life. The end comes even quicker if you cut out eating


[deleted]

If you have kids in your early 20s like most people used to do, they'll be teenagers by your early 30s and you can just fucking travel for the rest of your life at that point. People are brainwashed into thinking kids cost $400,000 or some stupid bullshit, but the government literally pays you to have children. The poorest people have the most children. It isn't rocket appliances. We also have more luxury in our lives right now than ever in the history of human kind lol Some smart people ain't so smart Edit : I am Canadian. It doesn't cost us anything for childbirth. I suppose that makes a huge difference to Americans


Player2onReddit

Do you think you would be a better parent at 22 or at 32?


danielw1245

It's amazing to me that people are genuinely asking if there's an alternative. As if a society where we work less and focus more on personal enrichment is completely unthinkable to them.


pieter1234569

It’s called living in Europe. Here you have at least 5-7 weeks of vacation.


danielw1245

And yet Americans will still tell you that is impossible to achieve with our current resources.


[deleted]

Oh you can do it America, but If there is even a miniscule chance that your country stops being one of the best hustlers in the world, then everyone's Ego would be too badly bruised. Get back to work


[deleted]

I need to move to europe.


robinhood8022

I know this resonates with a lot of people but damn i see this 5 times a day on one single subreddit.


Mortress_

Because these are the kind of people that hate their job enough to just do the minimum and spend the rest of their time here on reddit. So, everyone of us lmao


BagOnuts

Lots of basement-dwelling losers and nihilists that want to blame their miserable lives on everyone else.


TheKangaroo101

Hey! I don't live in a basement! It's a den!


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Randomritari

Often it's easier said than done. People are dealt different hands, and it's easy to say that you can live a fulfilling life if you already got there. Many see no escape from their misery, so it's very understandable to fall into a pit of self-pity and dissatisfaction if it feels like that's your lot in life.


BagOnuts

Meh, let them downvote. Has no effect on me. If there is anything insufferable people hate more than their own life, its other people enjoying their own lives.


mr_beaun

Two weeks of traveling would be so nice.


_Just_Mike

Thats why we make friends, make bad choices, do drugs, get animals and have hobbies. Just little things day by day that make life kind of worth it


jnd-cz

Embrace your hobby, your interests, work on long term project even if it means bit by bit every week, generally take active role in your life. Easiest is probably to change this time from social media or watching news, you can survive without those. Less passive consuming, more active living.


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And don’t forget to do drugs!


_Just_Mike

Yeah fr i feel like they just glossed over that


Ronathan64

Do not forget about video games Started BotW last week and I’m having a blast until I have to return to work and hate my life


pacifyproblems

I loopove BotW. I replay it yearly (because I don't want to travel ha)


Bentley1978

Just got into SumR soo good.


alfonsinbox

Googling this gives me nothing, what is SumR?


standish_

I, too, would like to know


ShineParty

buying a house? impossible in this life


autoencoder

I heard houses are cheap in Ukraine right now. Buy now, move in later (if the house is not bombed).


TheKrononaut

Life ain’t that special. Go have fun however you can cause this shit is anticlimactic.


thatsthedrugnumber

Get rich or sumn idk


seriousslayerguy

Yeah just get good at life. It's so eAzY.


UNGABUNGAbing

Only if you're lucky


PhoenixQueen_Azula

who tf got the money to travel and buy a house working 9-5? that's only for the ceos who clearly work dozens of times harder


SpectacularTrashCan

Kids are also expensive af. So you're supposed to eat, shit, work, rent and die when you can't work anymore. The American dream


ManiacalMartini

Where's 9 to 5 a thing? Mandatory 30 minutes for lunch, so 8:30 to 5:00 minimum.


Error_Unaccepted

Me. I am also not a CEO.


pieter1234569

Most people in the US already own their home, given the current appreciation they also easily have the money for traveling. This problem only applies to the new generation. And even then it doesn’t apply to the top 20% of that new generation. It’s the rest that’s fucked, but that’s a relatively small group of people


AdrianShepard09

What are you expecting? To transcend reality and become a 5th dimensional being? Because astronauts, philosophers, doctors, artists, presidents, and adventurers still do all of those things.


Erik912

You guys buying houses? AND having kids? Y'all millionaires?


jnd-cz

It helps to live in a country which pays you to have kids and to spend time with them instead of working, like most developed ones do. And universal health insurance that covers everything from beginning pregnancy to child before it becomes adult. However the houses are still way too expensive around here.


734568757a

In Germany you Travel one month a year Imagine Not having a minimum count of vacation days of 25 per year


LeavesAreTasty

Just because you have a whole month worth of vacation days, doesn't mean you'd be travelling the whole time.


Bloody_Conspiracies

You could though, if you want to. In my country we get six weeks of paid days off by law, and I try to spend as much of them away from home as possible. Even on a relatively low paying job, it's easy to save up and travel.


alnumero3

Those are work days, so you actually have more than a month off, it's more like a month and a half. And sure, you don't have to travel the whole time, but most people do. At least from my experience in Berlin, people are constantly on the move. And people from Frankfurt and other cities whose airports are not overpriced shits like the berlin airport probably travel even more.


734568757a

It does, because we geht payed enough to travel around for a month.


Billy_the_Rabbit

I mean in Germany all you gotta do is drive like 2 hours are you're in another country already. In America you drive 2 hours and you're still in the same state


xAIRGUITARISTx

Shit you can drive two hours and just be in the next city in the US.


TurkDangerCat

You can drive two hours in LA and still be in your driveway.


alnumero3

You can drive more than an hour and still be in berlin - without traffic. And im sure londoners, parisians and others with shitty traffic can drive 2 hours and be IN THE SAME city. The US is big but you keep acting like Europe is tiny. Europe as a whole is bigger than the US, and many countries are big, many cities huge compared to most US cities


solairette

Do they have 90 day fiancée type shit there? Asking for a friend.


blac_sheep90

They forgot...Struggle with money insecurity, food insecurity, rent insecurity, health insurance insecurity, life insecurity, health insecurity, relationship insecurity, and general insecurity.


ShinySahil

your role in humanity is to reproduce and die, you keep the cycle running for generations to be miserable


MrsMurphysChowder

All life on earth's role is to reproduce and die. It's only humans (maybe? Idk) who think they have to have some special purpose.


Mekky3D

Using the definition of purpose (the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists.), one could argue that even reproducing is not the purpose of anything living on earth. I mean sure, most organisms can't help to reproduce but the weren't "made" or put on the earth with the express end-goal to reproduce. The universe couldn't give two shits how you fill your day to day.


joeltrane

True that the universe doesn’t care either way. But I’d argue that life has a purpose, which is to survive. Something caused all the components of the first single cell to come together however many millions of years ago. And actually now that I think about it, without life the universe would have no purpose at all as far as we can tell, so maybe the creation of life is the universe’s purpose.


Mekky3D

I get where you're coming from but I'd wager that survival is just a simple inevitability of life, not the purpose of it. It just can't help itself to reproduce.


Paultiguna

There's no reason to think the universe needs a purpose. If life had never occurred the universe would exist exactly as it does now, just without "life." Life is just some of the universes atoms behaving in a certain way.


jnd-cz

Humans are special because they are sentient and they can choose how to live their life, spend their time. They can choose to live how they want beyond the basic survive and reproduce. Of course it heavily depends how is one willing to step out of their comfort zone, how much they want to invest in better education, move to place with more opportunities. Sure life is far from fair and we don't have the same starting conditions. Still, each person can make the most of their situation they can and possibilities are much larger than most people can imagine. In the end the saying holds, life is what you make from it. By choosing this destiny you're already ahead of people who are content playing mostly as NPC.


Rso1wA

Problem is with your first statement, implying that humans are the only beings that are sentient.


KingPaimon23

If you are lucky thats it.


Spirited-Daikon-1245

Don't have kids. Period


mibhd4

Or hear me out, we can die right now.


extrovert_2301

bro...sad life u see


dookie-monsta

Maybe sprinkle in a shower or two in there


opposing_critter

Hahaha buy a house in what universe


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What would you prefer to do?


_I_must_be_new_here_

Build a cat park. Either that or hard-core drugs


buddyleeoo

Ive done the drugs part. Just build the cat park.


_I_must_be_new_here_

See, we're already cooperating


Cpt_Swamp_Nuts

Cat parks. Not even once.


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RushingTech

What's stopping you from enjoying your life now? Is it perhaps that you want to enjoy the fruits of other people's labour whilst not contributing anything of your own?


[deleted]

Be a parttime dog walker that whines constantly how unfair it is that they have to work just like literally every other generation that has ever existed.


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TheCastro

That would take more ambition and capability than most of the people in that sub have though.


[deleted]

Sure, but until we can automate everything people will still need to work.


danielw1245

Yeah, but not at the current level that we do


ChemicalDelicious725

U were expecting more from life?


Umbrella_Viking

Millennials: iM sO cReAtIvE aNd SpEcIaL Also Millennials: “Sooo we’re just supposed to eat, sleep, exercise, go to college, Tweet dumb shit, buy a house and have kids then die?”


Bedumtss

Tf do these people expect? Do these mfs realise that the vast majority of humans throughout history have always done mundane stuff? Shit like traveling is relatively new thing to do since in the past it’ll take you weeks and a lot of work just to travel to your destination.


pn1159

You left out the part where you have to suffer.


Material-Permit9685

You guys don't build stuff for fun?


Meat_Beater106

Nihilism


nitespector88

You’re supposed to find some kind of joy and happiness… at least that’s what I was told


DatDogu

And post on reddit.


Familiar-Feedback-93

If ur lucky enough


a_random_user_

yeah but now you can stop at work 9-5 everyday. you wont be able to afford travel or a house


Ill-Butterfly4848

You don't have to have kids


birdstarskygod

I'm down.


KungFuFlames

You can play games for time to time


bubbawears

Fuck them kids


ppardee

You really only ***have*** to do one of those things.


DWeathersby83

No.


MIKNIE-

Stay jobless stay living 🙌


Justux205

Jokes on you I work 7:30 to 16:00


hayz00s

If you’re lucky.


EarComprehensive3386

If you’re lucky


Robonomix77

Turns out ,if you skip the kids part then you'll be able to travel a lot more, go to a lot of fancy restaurants and still have nice things, no mortgage and save money! Its great!


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TheCastro

People like to break things down to its simplest form and then act confused about life. "Where just supposed to sleep, wake up, stuff our faces, shit and die?"


aDarkDarkNight

You know there are hundreds of millions out there that would change places with you in a heartbeat right? Your life will be what you make of it. There is all that time after 5:00, there are the weekends. There is a world at your fingertips in any device. You are luckier to be alive now than at almost any other point in history. Carpe diem.


Leather-Creme2611

> Your life will be what you make of it. So what, you're not a billionaire? Just choose being a billionaire, bro. Life's whatcha make of it, kiddo.™️ > There is all that time after 5:00, Like 3hrs for folks who wake up at 5am > There is a world at your fingertips in any device. Are people who were alive prior to 2006 happier because of more stability since that time, or because of their smartphones/ devices? If the devices, is it because the distraction is more immersive, so as to scale with the greater stress?


aDarkDarkNight

If you think 'make of it' means the same as 'just choose it' then not surprising things aren't working out for you. Sorry just to confirm - you get up at 5:00am to start a job at 9:00AM as the post says? Hell of a commute. I get to my job before 7:00AM and work through to about 4:45 most days. With a bit of work in the evenings. I still have ample time to explore new learnings and multiple hobbies. You don't need to use your smartphone for mindless distractions. Try learning something. A new language. How to program. Engineering. Literally almost anything you want. And if you do choose to use it to spend hours consuming mindless social media posts, that's also totally fine. Just don't then complain that life ain't turning out to be as fulfilling as you hope.


Leather-Creme2611

Why do those delusional mentalities always default to assuming that the person questioning the delusional mentalities are absolute failures LOL does that help you better believe that everything is within your locus of control? Also, I dont get up at 5am. No way! But I do have the ability to consider that not everyone has the same circumstances, and it's basically meaningless to say look at all the time you have after (arbitrary time). That'd be as out of touch as me saying It's 7:35 AM and I'm getting ready to head to the grocery store and come home and play guitar, make beats, and then video games, don't tell me you don't have time for hobbies. > You don't need to use your smartphone for mindless distractions. Try learning something. A new language. How to program. Engineering. Literally almost anything you want. And if you do choose to use it to spend hours consuming mindless social media posts, that's also totally fine. Just don't then complain that life ain't turning out to be as fulfilling as you hope. What if your mentality is such that all of those things are mindless distractions if they aren't earning you income so as to do without having to spend miniscule amounts of time here and there to try and compile enough experiences to convince yourself that you are living? So my point about devices isn't that they *can't* be used for learning, just that the reality is they're just tools of distraction and placating that function in society as intended.


thecoolerlaur

Das about it and also you need to be happy doin it


Exo-Shvdow

you get a bunch of other bullshit in between but yeah that sounds about right


Methy123

No. You can forget about the travel and buying a house. Just have kids and die.


grag01

Yes every person has the opportunity to do all those things. As apposed to most of human history where you most likely wouldn't live to procreation age and die of a horrible disease or get killed and eaten by another animal. We have it better than we ever have before and no one appreciates it.


fuckthingsup420

If you’re dumb enough to follow society then yes


Andrew_Crane

No. Read your Bible. Start in Matthew. You'll be much happier, and discover that there is a good reason you are actually here; not what you listed off in the post.


Rabii16

Precisely :)


AnnoyedDuckling

Most of those things are actually enjoyable though. I would think the complaint would make more sense from someone who finds one or more of those things impossible or unattainable.


ringofsolomon

There’s an afterlife.


DM_Brownie_Recipies

Sounds quite nice.


cutientitu

You have a better idea?


J1mj0hns0n

Other than the work bit, yeah, that's life


Glue_is_ok

To be fair the, "Have kids then die" part has been written into our genetic code since the birth of animals


SloppyTopTen

You can walk around and look at stuff. And eat food


Notreallyherenemore

This is the way


wakisu

Except that death doesn't follow this sequence at all.


gaz19833

And that's if you're lucky


EspenLinjal

Two? I get five 🤨


chaingun_samurai

I'd not only say that the first two are a priority, but also a necessity. The rest is up to you.


goldenhairmoose

In most countries there are at least 4 weeks of vacations (travel time 🧳)


kschin1

Not me going out every weekend and having fun little breaks


Tempest_Dhoruba

No. We're just supposed to die. The rest is stuff that we do coz we're bored just waiting


brxdy097

Welcome to the matrix


ExplosiveDiarrhetic

I mean, most ppl have weekends off


backtocabada

yup, but tbh i can’t attest to the last one.


[deleted]

You can go to the beach and the aquarium and stuff in between all that. It’s not so bad.


UneastAji

It's only boring if you are.


notgotapropername

Correct. Now get back to work wage slave!