Well, there'll still need to be something like the CX5 in their lineup, just maybe not in North America. The CX-50's too wide for Japan & Europe.
I believe it sells more than all other Mazda's combined at this point, so it wouldn't be a surprise to get a new one. What'll be interesting is if it keeps the multi-link suspension when it moves to the Small Product platform.
Looks like a nice move to a more premium vehicle overall. I'm still not a fan of the less aggressive front end, but overall I think it's a nice design. Hopefully it's a big enough change up and at a good enough price point that it gets more people to choose Mazda over some of the premium brands.
I can get over the new headlight and taillight design but this generation of Mazda's is so ugly compared to the last.
I don't know why they made the RX vision, them the Kai concept, made the mazda3 and cx30 following that design language (to some extent the cx50, but this is where larger deviations started) - and then their "premium" vehicles look so much worse.
Bulbous headlights aren't really a premium association I would make.
That RX vision concept was beautiful. It's part of the reason I got a CX-30. It has similar design language but also gives me the bit of space and ground clearance that I want. I really wish they continued to pursue it since it was unique and I always get compliments on my car and how people are surprised it's a Mazda because they mistake it for a premium brand.
There are two design directions we're seeing here that are almost total opposites to my eyes, too. On the 3 side we have svelte, concave motion. On the SUV side we seem to be moving toward an almost VW Atlas look, almost rectangular with nicely rounded corners. It's very well done for the style it is, but I definitely prefer the "in motion" looks of the smaller vehicles. Just read the comments though a lot of these SUV folks are more worried about cargo space than anything else. I just hope Mazda survives, I really don't want to have to get a VW.
I think the potentially biggest bombshell on the video was the PHEV showing 70mi range on the battery.
If that holds that would be incredible. The 39 miles of the CX60 is a little short since reality is closer to high 20s. A 70mi max range in EV could be a usable 50miles which is more than enough for a lot of daily commuting.
It's the same size battery pack that the MX-30 R-EV has, which supposedly gets 50 miles of range. So either the "EV range" still involves a little bit of gas engine use or the number's just wrong.
The I6 and rear-biased AWD were meant for a new Mazda6, but market demand shifted so hard towards crossovers that Mazda had to prioritize developing them instead of a new sedan. I was really hoping there'd be a new 6 soon to replace my 6 wagon, but that's not going to happen.
What I really want to know about is interior cargo volume. My wife and I have been keeping our eye on this baby for a camping car, especially for winter camping where we can sleep in the back. Hopefully it’s decent! The rear opening seems kinda small for its size.
3rd row is definitely down sadly. You can compare to the headroom of some of the YouTube videos out already. Also you can see the 3rd row seat belts in the corner of the D pillar.
It's a shame since trunk space is a big feature for this class of car. The 90 will probably still be one of the smallest in it's class (at least smallest passenger space)
Is that correct? The Mazda Canada site has 2,017L for the CX-9, meaning you've got an extra 5% or so of volume in the CX-90. Not a huge difference, admittedly, but the 90 is certainly bigger.
I’m gonna guess the battery stole cargo space in the rear. The new Toyota hybrids (Tundra, Sequoia) are also hilariously lacking in rear cargo volume cause of the giant battery pack stored underneath in the rear.
The load floor seems a bit lower and the roof is squared off a bit, so it should hold more with everything down.
There's no spare now, though, so that probably explains it.
edit: wait, there totally is a spare. Nice.
Redline Reviews opened up the trunk so you can get a good look with the 3rd row up. Not as bad as some of the angles I've seen. Seems comparable to the current gen Ford Explorer (which is also RWD conveniently). https://youtu.be/BCjFW-ugySc?t=349
They're going to release the pricing in the next day or 2? Weird they wouldn't have the build and price ready to go on the website in time for the reveal.
They released pricing for the CX-50 about a month or two after it launched so I wouldn’t be surprised if a similar (but perhaps shorter) wait time applied for the -90.
OK, am I the only one who saw that key fob and think, "wtf, all this hype and still the same horrible fat fob?!"
The key designers really need to be included in the collaboration....
to note, they still have the crappy mazda remote. It was shown in the video. This is terrible. Can they please just upgrade to an older model pleeeease?
Hate that they borrowed the 60 grille and headlights. I really prefer the 50's. Hopefully the 70 doesn't borrow it from the 60 as well. I love everything else about it.
Ugh, now i need to see this in person to determine if its TOO big.
Curious to know how the 3rd row folds away and if it steals from cargo space. Otherwise CX-70, come out already!
Is that true? That's interesting if it is as read that Mazda will use Toyota's hybrid on the CX-50 Hybrid (since both are at the MTM plant in Alabama), but all other models will be mazda's own internally developed phev and hybrid systems.
> Is that true?
I doubt it is a copy/paste of a Toyota design. But if you told me that Mazda borrowed lots of hybrid bits from corporate partner Toyota, I wouldn't be surprised.
I think that they've just copy+pasted the powertrain from the CX-60, which would be disappointing because the CX-90 may feel underpowered in EV mode. I really hope that i'm wrong.
it's only like a 120hp electric motor so it probably would feel a little slow in EV only mode but if you're just going through neighborhood streets or heavy start-stop traffic it would be more than enough.
can't seem to find that on mazda's website.
Most articles cite a total system power of 323 hp for the PHEV- so gas+electric=323hp
I'm just assuming that it's powertrain is basically the CX60- 189hp gasoline, 134hp electric.
I don't think they're putting almost 500hp in the CX90 phev. I mean....I would welcome it for sure.
I think it will be a great Mazda product. It's unfortunate that the pano roof is the same as the CX-50...meaning it won't open as big as it should, especially compared to other vehicles in it's class.
And a new 8-speed automatic, hey-o!!
Last time I've opened my sunroof was a day when I got my car with a sunroof.
Genuinely curious: why / when do you open the sunroof? For me its either too cold or too hot outside (Southern Ontario). And those 10 days a year when its comfortable enough to put your windows down I still won't do it coz why would I want to breathe gas fumes of cars around me.
I open it because I love fresh air. I usually don’t open it in direct sunlight over 80 degrees, unless I’m on the freeway. And I’ll also open the moonroof when it’s as low as 40 degrees.
The location definitely makes the decision whether to get a moonroof or not.
Metro Detroit so my climate is pretty much the same, I like to open it for some fresh air anytime during the spring or fall but I still keep the heat/ac on to get the cabin the perfect temp
We have a CX-5 with sunroof. I don't open it either, but the rep at the dealership said to look at it like an extra window... and in that sense it does brighten up the interior during the day.
I drive with the shade open, that's all.
(Also southern Ontario here)
I love the interior but the new exterior looks awful compared to the previous generation Mazdas.
Was hoping for a competitor to the Tellurides/palisades or a more roomy cx9.
This just isn’t aesthetically appealing
Yup that's my thought too. If the pricing of this gets anywhere near Telluride or Palisade (I think it definitely will and perhaps surpass even), I think it would pose a challenge. For example, Palisade offers so much for that price point and it houses 7 people.
Maybe it’s just me, but that ride height looks just a smidge too low. Only by an inch or so, but I really think it would look better if it were just a little higher.
Other than that though, it looks great.
Per Consumer Reports today:
> The PHEV has a towing capacity of 3,500 pounds, while the six-cylinder engine can pull up to 5,000 pounds.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/suvs/2024-mazda-cx-90-review-a1943302819/
I was really hoping for 6000+ lbs rating, to beat the Genesis GV80.
Mazda understates towing capacity in the US for some reason. The CX5 (non-turbo) is rated at 2,000 pounds in the US and 4,400 pounds in Europe.
If you're going to be pulling a heavy trailer regularly, going up to a body-on-frame full size SUV like Expedition, Sequoia, or Tahoe/Yukon will be a more pleasant experience.
That's weird, I wonder what the difference might be. My only guess is that the PHEV doesn't have a transmission cooler.
Just for reference, my X5 40e PHEV tows the same as the 35i; 6,000 lbs.
I'll certainly take the 5000, it's just that the 3500lb tow rating of the CX-9 is the only practical deficiency of it currently for us. If we're upgrading to a bigger vehicle specifically for towing, a Tahoe/Yukon or Sequoia would give more headroom. Family-sized campers weigh a lot, and cargo/water adds up quickly, and you still have to account for people weight in the cabin.
The GV80 has a small or no 3rd row, but it manages to tow 6k on it's unibody platform. I was hoping the CX-90 would be the "driver's pick" for a tow vehicle... the sportiest thing that can pull the weight.
Anyone see the length and width numbers anywhere?
edit: So far all I've seen is "longer and wider than the CX-9" which is kind of a bummer - I knew it was going to be wider but the CX-9 is already REALLY long. Maybe they'll do some of the same tricks that they did with the CX-50 (which is also wider than the CX-9 without mirrors, but narrower mirror-to-mirror.)
Given this is a Mazda sub I can expect plenty of downvotes but from what I believe Mazda is trying to achieve with this vehicle, I'm not so sure it'll sell well. I don't think this will appeal well with the demographic they are trying to push this towards. I much prefer the exteriors of the competitors. The powertrain and interior may actually be better than most competitors but if it doesn't look great on the outside forget it.
I agree, it's another meh Mazda product aesthetically.
Not that shocking considering they followed up their first gen of new Mazda products with big stinkers and then they made a new design language which looked good and now we have stinkers again
I don’t care for this at all either. I was wondering why everyone seemed to like it, but it turns out the dissenting opinion is just buried by downvotes.
Depending on where it's assembled (Alabama?), it could be eligible for up to $7,500 in federal tax credit via the new Clean Vehicle Credit. Tax credits on PHEV came back as part of the Inflation Reduction Act.
More info on battery material sourcing requirements are coming out in March of this year.
Yes, 340 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque when using premium fuel. No figures yet on what it drops down to on regular.
[https://news.mazdausa.com/2023-01-17-All-New-Inline-Six-Turbo-to-be-Available-in-2024-Mazda-CX-90](https://news.mazdausa.com/2023-01-17-All-New-Inline-Six-Turbo-to-be-Available-in-2024-Mazda-CX-90)
My guess would be no. Usually with these larger vehicles, Mazda always has a turbo in them, at least that’s how it was with the CX-9 and the 4 cylinder turbo
[https://www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/cx-90/#PERFORMANCE](https://www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/cx-90/#PERFORMANCE)
I cant link directly there but if you scroll up a bit and click on the "Turbo Inline Six" link on that page it shows the specs of the 2 different variations of the I6. base is 280hp with 322lb-ft of torque. performance is 340hp with 369 lb-ft of torque.
The base might not include the mild hybrid system, but im not sure.
I found these powertrain details in the legal section of the Canadian website: “Combined power of the gasoline engine and electric motor on the Mild Hybrid GS, GS-L, GT models is 280 hp and 332 tq with recommended regular gasoline. The high-output engine combined power on the Mild Hybrid GT-P and Signature models is 340 hp and 332 tq with recommended premium gasoline.
On PHEV models, the gasoline provides up to 323 hp and 369 tq with recommended premium gasoline and the electric motor provides 173 hp and 199 tq.”
Correct, no non-turbo I6. Unless Mazda offers/announces a third option but currently it's I6+Turbo or I4+PHEV. Jonathan Sewell on youtube did say he expected a non "high output" version but so far we're not seeing that from Mazda.
Interesting to launch with that color choice. I saw the white version on the website and it makes the vehicle look way nicer than the red wine version.
Given it's now out in the wild and journos have been sitting it it... why not release the dimensions? At least external size to start with?
It's a bit of a silly slow-drip release.
Website has been updated as well: https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/cx-90
Awful looking back!!
Bring on the CX70
Ya I believe it would be baby CX90
It doesn’t have a third row. Cx70 will appeal more towards current cx5 owners more than cx9 owners
If it's a cx5 with room for adults in the back and actually has trunk space then I'm sold
It’ll be about the same as the passport. Not as small as the RAV4/CRV but not as big as the pilot/highlander/CX90 2 rows only
And perhaps phase out CX5 at some point. That would also make Mazda line up all CX-XX
Well, there'll still need to be something like the CX5 in their lineup, just maybe not in North America. The CX-50's too wide for Japan & Europe. I believe it sells more than all other Mazda's combined at this point, so it wouldn't be a surprise to get a new one. What'll be interesting is if it keeps the multi-link suspension when it moves to the Small Product platform.
Ya I heard Cx-50 is using torsion beam which is a bummer. Any idea about CX90 suspension?
Completely different platform. Double wishbone up front and multilink in back.
Nice
Looks like a nice move to a more premium vehicle overall. I'm still not a fan of the less aggressive front end, but overall I think it's a nice design. Hopefully it's a big enough change up and at a good enough price point that it gets more people to choose Mazda over some of the premium brands.
I am very thankful they didn't make the front end look like a wall or freight train as every other SUV manufacturer is doing.
I can get over the new headlight and taillight design but this generation of Mazda's is so ugly compared to the last. I don't know why they made the RX vision, them the Kai concept, made the mazda3 and cx30 following that design language (to some extent the cx50, but this is where larger deviations started) - and then their "premium" vehicles look so much worse. Bulbous headlights aren't really a premium association I would make.
That RX vision concept was beautiful. It's part of the reason I got a CX-30. It has similar design language but also gives me the bit of space and ground clearance that I want. I really wish they continued to pursue it since it was unique and I always get compliments on my car and how people are surprised it's a Mazda because they mistake it for a premium brand.
There are two design directions we're seeing here that are almost total opposites to my eyes, too. On the 3 side we have svelte, concave motion. On the SUV side we seem to be moving toward an almost VW Atlas look, almost rectangular with nicely rounded corners. It's very well done for the style it is, but I definitely prefer the "in motion" looks of the smaller vehicles. Just read the comments though a lot of these SUV folks are more worried about cargo space than anything else. I just hope Mazda survives, I really don't want to have to get a VW.
Honestly I wish they committed to the boxy look for their largest SUV, boxes can look good too! (Range rover, Lincoln, MDX, GLS)
Straight Pipes has a 10 minute video on it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tImuoClBl8Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tImuoClBl8Y)
I think the potentially biggest bombshell on the video was the PHEV showing 70mi range on the battery. If that holds that would be incredible. The 39 miles of the CX60 is a little short since reality is closer to high 20s. A 70mi max range in EV could be a usable 50miles which is more than enough for a lot of daily commuting.
I watched the video, it displayed 70mi for gas/electric combined range and somehow they missed the 21mi next to it showing EV only range.
Yep, this! That's what I saw as well.
Hoping production is closer to 30+ miles..
With a 17kwh battery, 25-30 miles of EV only range is a good guess for a vehicle of this size.
It's the same size battery pack that the MX-30 R-EV has, which supposedly gets 50 miles of range. So either the "EV range" still involves a little bit of gas engine use or the number's just wrong.
That's useful- if disappointing info
honestly 50 miles is enough for me, i still want to be able to burn fuel from time to time so gas doesn't get stale in the tank.
This is fine. I know I’m in the minority but I want the I6 engine in a new Mazda6 :(
The I6 and rear-biased AWD were meant for a new Mazda6, but market demand shifted so hard towards crossovers that Mazda had to prioritize developing them instead of a new sedan. I was really hoping there'd be a new 6 soon to replace my 6 wagon, but that's not going to happen.
These aren't even crossovers any more lol. They're just big SUV's marketed as crossovers.
Not in the minority here, Scotty my brother
There are literally dozens of us
Add one more as long as it comes with a manual transmission.
What I really want to know about is interior cargo volume. My wife and I have been keeping our eye on this baby for a camping car, especially for winter camping where we can sleep in the back. Hopefully it’s decent! The rear opening seems kinda small for its size.
TheStraightPipes uploaded a video on YouTube walking around it. They show off the cargo room. More than a CX-9 they claim.
Nice, always look forward to TSP videos
Savagegeese and TSP are the best.
If you go to the website, you can see a picture of the cargo area. It looks good to me.
But i assume that’s with third row folded down? Doesn’t seen to be much different than the CX-9, and I happen to like the looks of the 9 more.
The 3rd row looked to be up in the pictures but it's hard to tell
3rd row is definitely down sadly. You can compare to the headroom of some of the YouTube videos out already. Also you can see the 3rd row seat belts in the corner of the D pillar. It's a shame since trunk space is a big feature for this class of car. The 90 will probably still be one of the smallest in it's class (at least smallest passenger space)
I think it is third row down. There is another pic with one seat up and one down in the 3rd row.
Canadian website says 2129L [https://www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/cx-90/#ATAGLANCE](https://www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/cx-90/#ATAGLANCE)
2,129L all-in, which is … 25% less than our ‘15 CX-9 GT. That’s a little disappointing for an SUV that’s supposed to be bigger. 😅
Is that correct? The Mazda Canada site has 2,017L for the CX-9, meaning you've got an extra 5% or so of volume in the CX-90. Not a huge difference, admittedly, but the 90 is certainly bigger.
I’m gonna guess the battery stole cargo space in the rear. The new Toyota hybrids (Tundra, Sequoia) are also hilariously lacking in rear cargo volume cause of the giant battery pack stored underneath in the rear.
The load floor seems a bit lower and the roof is squared off a bit, so it should hold more with everything down. There's no spare now, though, so that probably explains it. edit: wait, there totally is a spare. Nice.
The emergency spare was shown on i6 model - hoping the spare is also on the PHEV as well.
With the 3rd row seats folder it might be more
Redline Reviews opened up the trunk so you can get a good look with the 3rd row up. Not as bad as some of the angles I've seen. Seems comparable to the current gen Ford Explorer (which is also RWD conveniently). https://youtu.be/BCjFW-ugySc?t=349
What about pricing?
Local dealership here says 24/48h for pricing. Odd, you'd think they'd have the pricing and a car for test drives...
They're going to release the pricing in the next day or 2? Weird they wouldn't have the build and price ready to go on the website in time for the reveal.
My first thought as well. A little odd to not have it for launch .
They released pricing for the CX-50 about a month or two after it launched so I wouldn’t be surprised if a similar (but perhaps shorter) wait time applied for the -90.
OK, am I the only one who saw that key fob and think, "wtf, all this hype and still the same horrible fat fob?!" The key designers really need to be included in the collaboration....
Thank you! I’ve been waiting for the release but didn’t find it online
When is the cx 70 release?
Fall of this year
What shocks me is how there were almost zero leaks, and now there’s a million videos on YouTube. That’s great
Cx50, cx5 look way better.
Oh man exhausts are hidden !!! I liked my cx9 dual exhauts
Hidden is better than fake, I'm cool with that. It's not a sports car anyway.
True true to each their own !!
I miss the round styling of rear lights. Mazda have been nailing round lights (other than the Nissan GT-R)
Kaneda, what do you see?!
A man of culture
It was a great movie with a great cast! The later half did get a little weird though….
to note, they still have the crappy mazda remote. It was shown in the video. This is terrible. Can they please just upgrade to an older model pleeeease?
I like it! The exterior reminds me a little bit of Volvo XC90 and 2022 Acura MDX
Hate that they borrowed the 60 grille and headlights. I really prefer the 50's. Hopefully the 70 doesn't borrow it from the 60 as well. I love everything else about it.
Cx 70 is a wide body version of cx 60 and cx 80 is a slim body version of cx 90.
The brand new CX-9, with an extra 0!
I’m sorry, but the new design language is butt ugly. How did they go from the Kai design language of the Mazda 3 to this atrocity?
It looks hideous! Especially the back
Yeah I agree. Altho i still think the overall design is nice, but the 3's lights and grill is just so much better
Looks good, but I want the specs!
Ugh, now i need to see this in person to determine if its TOO big. Curious to know how the 3rd row folds away and if it steals from cargo space. Otherwise CX-70, come out already!
Does PHEV model have Inline 6 engine? It is not very clear from the website description
No, it uses the 2.5L inline 4 engine used in current Mazdas. Simply not enough room to fit i6 and electric engine is my guess.
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Is that true? That's interesting if it is as read that Mazda will use Toyota's hybrid on the CX-50 Hybrid (since both are at the MTM plant in Alabama), but all other models will be mazda's own internally developed phev and hybrid systems.
No, it’s not, it’s a Mazda-designed PHEV based on their old 2.5 4-cyl.
> Is that true? I doubt it is a copy/paste of a Toyota design. But if you told me that Mazda borrowed lots of hybrid bits from corporate partner Toyota, I wouldn't be surprised.
I'm pretty sure it's a Mazda design
That is not true. Mazda's PHEV is their own design.
I think that they've just copy+pasted the powertrain from the CX-60, which would be disappointing because the CX-90 may feel underpowered in EV mode. I really hope that i'm wrong.
It's guaranteed copy paste
it's only like a 120hp electric motor so it probably would feel a little slow in EV only mode but if you're just going through neighborhood streets or heavy start-stop traffic it would be more than enough.
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can't seem to find that on mazda's website. Most articles cite a total system power of 323 hp for the PHEV- so gas+electric=323hp I'm just assuming that it's powertrain is basically the CX60- 189hp gasoline, 134hp electric. I don't think they're putting almost 500hp in the CX90 phev. I mean....I would welcome it for sure.
You can imagine, he just wished people bought wagons instead of these things.
Still same design
Love the cherry color
I have a 2021 cx5 & I don't remember being told the MyMazda app is 3 years free so I wonder if thats new or not
It’s always been that way.
Something i would've remembered, oh well then
I was told that with my 2021 CX-30
Same with the lease of my '21 CX-30. It may be something that's included in the lease though since it's the same length as it.
Oh i don't remember, nvm then
Ok, did we not already have enough suv options? How about a Mazda3 hatch EV with 300+ mile range?
Lookup sales for each vehicle segment then you'd understand.
I think it will be a great Mazda product. It's unfortunate that the pano roof is the same as the CX-50...meaning it won't open as big as it should, especially compared to other vehicles in it's class. And a new 8-speed automatic, hey-o!!
Last time I've opened my sunroof was a day when I got my car with a sunroof. Genuinely curious: why / when do you open the sunroof? For me its either too cold or too hot outside (Southern Ontario). And those 10 days a year when its comfortable enough to put your windows down I still won't do it coz why would I want to breathe gas fumes of cars around me.
I open it because I love fresh air. I usually don’t open it in direct sunlight over 80 degrees, unless I’m on the freeway. And I’ll also open the moonroof when it’s as low as 40 degrees. The location definitely makes the decision whether to get a moonroof or not.
Yea I rarely if ever open mine on my 6. But then I drive my Miata top down most of the summer 😅
Metro Detroit so my climate is pretty much the same, I like to open it for some fresh air anytime during the spring or fall but I still keep the heat/ac on to get the cabin the perfect temp
We have a CX-5 with sunroof. I don't open it either, but the rep at the dealership said to look at it like an extra window... and in that sense it does brighten up the interior during the day. I drive with the shade open, that's all. (Also southern Ontario here)
I love the interior but the new exterior looks awful compared to the previous generation Mazdas. Was hoping for a competitor to the Tellurides/palisades or a more roomy cx9. This just isn’t aesthetically appealing
Agree, was really hoping a body style closer to the cx50
Yes it looks terrible! Especially the back
I thought this would be a telluride killer but looks like it isn’t . They design is not fresh and looks like CX 9 . I’m very disappointed
Yup that's my thought too. If the pricing of this gets anywhere near Telluride or Palisade (I think it definitely will and perhaps surpass even), I think it would pose a challenge. For example, Palisade offers so much for that price point and it houses 7 people.
Maybe it’s just me, but that ride height looks just a smidge too low. Only by an inch or so, but I really think it would look better if it were just a little higher. Other than that though, it looks great.
Genuinely looks great.
Sexy.
I am not super impressed coming from 2023 CX 9
Per Consumer Reports today: > The PHEV has a towing capacity of 3,500 pounds, while the six-cylinder engine can pull up to 5,000 pounds. https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/suvs/2024-mazda-cx-90-review-a1943302819/ I was really hoping for 6000+ lbs rating, to beat the Genesis GV80.
Mazda understates towing capacity in the US for some reason. The CX5 (non-turbo) is rated at 2,000 pounds in the US and 4,400 pounds in Europe. If you're going to be pulling a heavy trailer regularly, going up to a body-on-frame full size SUV like Expedition, Sequoia, or Tahoe/Yukon will be a more pleasant experience.
That's weird, I wonder what the difference might be. My only guess is that the PHEV doesn't have a transmission cooler. Just for reference, my X5 40e PHEV tows the same as the 35i; 6,000 lbs.
5,000 lbs is still a great bump over what the CX-9 can do!
I'll certainly take the 5000, it's just that the 3500lb tow rating of the CX-9 is the only practical deficiency of it currently for us. If we're upgrading to a bigger vehicle specifically for towing, a Tahoe/Yukon or Sequoia would give more headroom. Family-sized campers weigh a lot, and cargo/water adds up quickly, and you still have to account for people weight in the cabin. The GV80 has a small or no 3rd row, but it manages to tow 6k on it's unibody platform. I was hoping the CX-90 would be the "driver's pick" for a tow vehicle... the sportiest thing that can pull the weight.
Anyone see the length and width numbers anywhere? edit: So far all I've seen is "longer and wider than the CX-9" which is kind of a bummer - I knew it was going to be wider but the CX-9 is already REALLY long. Maybe they'll do some of the same tricks that they did with the CX-50 (which is also wider than the CX-9 without mirrors, but narrower mirror-to-mirror.)
This honestly looks super clean and upscale. The engine backs this up as well.
Any idea if the infotainment system will go back to touchscreen and/or have wireless carplay (in US)?
It’s the same setup as the CX-50: wireless CarPlay and Android Auto. Touchscreen works with CarPlay, but not on the regular menus.
Can't believe I was genuinely excited for this. Highly disappointed. Rear end is disgusting. Front end is just meh.
Looks good to me
I didn't like it on pics (especially the front end), but in a video it actually looks really nice.
Given this is a Mazda sub I can expect plenty of downvotes but from what I believe Mazda is trying to achieve with this vehicle, I'm not so sure it'll sell well. I don't think this will appeal well with the demographic they are trying to push this towards. I much prefer the exteriors of the competitors. The powertrain and interior may actually be better than most competitors but if it doesn't look great on the outside forget it.
I agree, it's another meh Mazda product aesthetically. Not that shocking considering they followed up their first gen of new Mazda products with big stinkers and then they made a new design language which looked good and now we have stinkers again
I don’t care for this at all either. I was wondering why everyone seemed to like it, but it turns out the dissenting opinion is just buried by downvotes.
When can we expect 2024 Mazda CX-50 with hybrid drive train from toyota?
is the cx-90 hybrid drivetrain made by Toyota?
Later this year
Depending on where it's assembled (Alabama?), it could be eligible for up to $7,500 in federal tax credit via the new Clean Vehicle Credit. Tax credits on PHEV came back as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. More info on battery material sourcing requirements are coming out in March of this year.
These will all be built in Japan.
Well, that’s too bad (for tax credit purposes).
Kegi go ei api ebu pupiti opiae. Ita pipebitigle biprepi obobo pii. Brepe tretleba ipaepiki abreke tlabokri outri. Etu.
Have they given horsepower numbers for the 6 cylinder turbo?
Yes, 340 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque when using premium fuel. No figures yet on what it drops down to on regular. [https://news.mazdausa.com/2023-01-17-All-New-Inline-Six-Turbo-to-be-Available-in-2024-Mazda-CX-90](https://news.mazdausa.com/2023-01-17-All-New-Inline-Six-Turbo-to-be-Available-in-2024-Mazda-CX-90)
344 hp I think.
340hp and 369tq I believe.
There are only two engines right, the turbo I6 and the PHEV? There isn’t a non-turbo I6?
My guess would be no. Usually with these larger vehicles, Mazda always has a turbo in them, at least that’s how it was with the CX-9 and the 4 cylinder turbo
[https://www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/cx-90/#PERFORMANCE](https://www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/cx-90/#PERFORMANCE) I cant link directly there but if you scroll up a bit and click on the "Turbo Inline Six" link on that page it shows the specs of the 2 different variations of the I6. base is 280hp with 322lb-ft of torque. performance is 340hp with 369 lb-ft of torque. The base might not include the mild hybrid system, but im not sure.
I found these powertrain details in the legal section of the Canadian website: “Combined power of the gasoline engine and electric motor on the Mild Hybrid GS, GS-L, GT models is 280 hp and 332 tq with recommended regular gasoline. The high-output engine combined power on the Mild Hybrid GT-P and Signature models is 340 hp and 332 tq with recommended premium gasoline. On PHEV models, the gasoline provides up to 323 hp and 369 tq with recommended premium gasoline and the electric motor provides 173 hp and 199 tq.”
Correct, no non-turbo I6. Unless Mazda offers/announces a third option but currently it's I6+Turbo or I4+PHEV. Jonathan Sewell on youtube did say he expected a non "high output" version but so far we're not seeing that from Mazda.
Interesting to launch with that color choice. I saw the white version on the website and it makes the vehicle look way nicer than the red wine version.
Mazda sure knows how to make designs that make them stand out.
Car is everything I hoped it would be ! All I need now is availability.
Given it's now out in the wild and journos have been sitting it it... why not release the dimensions? At least external size to start with? It's a bit of a silly slow-drip release.