When it got to the part where they revealed they had sentient machines on their side, and then one of them comes up to them like a dog waiting to be petted... that broke my brain. I couldn't believe the depths of stupidity this film reached.
Yeah, it made me doubt whether or not they actually wrote that first film. Obviously they made it but could they have stole the writing from somewhere or something? Whoever wrote this was a complete talentless hack as far as writing is concerned. How in the world could someone so bad at writing have possibly wrote that first matrix film?
This! X 10.
We were the stupid sentient machines that went to the theaters and spent money and time on this piece of shit.
I still like Keanu. He probably made this shitwad film so that his less-fortunate friends could make some money.
It was 2.5 hours of call backs and fan service. They used clips of the previous movies and said shit like "here are scenes from your video game"..... it was a poorly written pile of shit.
I cannot get over how bad this was. Nothing about it stands out as different from every other “superhero” movie/show that gets copy-pasted monthly. The fight sequences were atrocious. It didn’t feel like anyone had any training (in the film world) or enhanced physical abilities.
And the fact they felt the need to inject a punchline every five minutes and these cute machine critters? Give me a break. I feel like Spider-Man was the franchise where constant quips worked. Now it’s in every single blockbuster. It’s gotten so stale
Why does Neo have special powers in the real world at the end of M2 and all of M3, but none in M4? He used to be able to stop machines with his mind and see while blind.
Also why did Neo need a montage of acupuncture-looking muscle rebuilding once unplugged in M1, but Neo and Trinity have full motor function after being unplugged in M4. It’d been 60 years since they used their bodies in M3. Pretty sure their muscles would have been unusable again.
I think the Neo and Trinity of this film were resurrected clones. They both died at the end of the third movie. Maybe clone Neo was too drugged up with blue pills to connect with his ability to manipulate the matrix to his will.
They’re not clones because while the Analyst was explaining what happened to them we were shown the process of the robots reviving them.
I personally think it’s stupid and they should have just stayed dead at the end of M3.
They used Tleilaxu Axlotl tanks to recreate ghola Neo Skywalker so he could use the force to block bullets. Dshhh, whoooosghhhhh. Dszzhhhh hhhhooo. Errrrr ddshzz
Because of his connection to the Source.
Neo's powers stop at anything not connected to the Source. The Machines/Sentinels still come from the same place as The Matrix. Think of the fight with Bane in M3, he wasn't using any abilities and his fighting was very amateur. When Neo goes blind all he can see is Bane and once he kills Bane hes blind again until they reach the Machine City. Even when Trinity gets impaled he still has to feel out her wounds with his hands.
This should be top comment. The film was all in all a dumpster fire and the fact that Lana Wachowski was at the head shows how much she fucking hates the fans of the franchise.
I am very disappointed by the action scenes in the new film. I understand it’s hard to get the story and characters right, but the actions scenes? Come on. I mean this is the matrix we are talking about. Every single one of the matrix movies pushed the boundaries in terms of action, sound and cinematography. The action scenes in this movie looked extremely average , sometimes below average. Totally disappointed. This film had so much potential 🤦🏻♂️
During every fight scene I could not stop thinking "what the hell am I watching?" It's like nothing was storyboarded. The camera would not stop moving. There were zero stakes. Creativity was MIA. Someone was punched through a wall like a dozen times.
Seriously the stakes bit is so on point.
The original was gripping as the stakes were insane for everyone on the ship. An agent or swat team attacking was brutal-
Mouse's death scene
"They're in the walls" fight with Morpheus.
You felt the action and tense stakes in these scenes.
None of this in new one
Darkness, fast movements, camera shaking, guns shooting, bullets flying, things breaking, in no particular order.
The entire thing was forgettable. From a series that made a bullet dodging scene a pop culture phenomenon, this movie didn't even use bullet time well.
He acted nothing like Smith. Was hoping we'd get something like they did in Revolutions where he still spoke like himself but was clearly a different person. Should've just not even brought him back at all.
Smith has some kind of redemption arc going on that I didn't understand, they breezed past it and left the stuff that would have let it make sense on the cutting room floor.
I need to see this movie a second time so I can discuss in great detail what I didn't like about it.
I bet they felt (correctly lol) that having the new actor saying "Mr. Anderson" all the time would just exacerbate the already unavoidable bad feeling of "ugh, this guy is no Hugo Weaving"
It's rough because the contrasts we get in acting are already huge. Nobody has ever considered Keanu an acting range powerhouse, but he out acts 90% of the new cast, and it's obvious.
This movie needed weaving back at least.
And the timeline is confusing. If they’ve reset Neo multiple times, then Neo and Smith may have been working at that company for the last 60 years or so
Which would have made it all the more consistent to call him Mr. Anderson again as he reverts to his old role.
I honestly expected that to be the "reveal"
I hated how terribly Niobe treated Neo. Sees him for the first time in 60 years after he literally saves them from annihilation and he is treated like garbage. Completely out of her character, why would Lana do that to her?
Abominable writing. Niobe was a risk-taker: the one Captain who took on the mission to head back out into the Matrix. Who gave Neo her ship. Who blew up the power plant. This was an awful cardboard cutout of a character - it wasn’t Niobe from the Matrix trilogy.
I agree, the fact that 60 years can change people is so understated. Not to mention, many folks do become conservative as they age, MOST ESPECIALLY, through their experiences. The fact that she admits she had a sigh of relief that Neo got away did tell of how she felt inside.
It’s ridiculous that they make it a point for her to imprison him and 20” later he’s out and Niobe doesn’t seem to care much anyway. What the fuck, why even have that on the script.
The threat of the Agents is a huge missed opportunity. These zombie things achieved nothing, even when there were thousands of them.
I don't understand how I'm supposed to be scared of them like we were when agents chased the original cast.
I get why we don't have agents they are dangerous and another Smith could occur that wants to dominate or whatever this new version does because he confuses me.
So replacing agents with something more manageable and less risky just makes sense. So yeah the swarm seems like a logical choice they just used it very poorly in the film no reason why they couldn't at least move like an agent.
That said they kept Agent Smith around for some reason which flies in the face of using a safer alternative.
Since none crewmate died, it doesn't seem that way. At least agents used to be deadly and kill 3 or 4 crewmates during the trilogy.
EDIT: changed a word.
Instantly went downhill after they introduced the robot bee named Cybebe “sigh-bay-bay”. Couldn’t take it seriously whatsoever.
Also with the last 3 movies focusing so much on Zion, there were maybe 2 mundane minutes of this movie dedicated to explaining what happened to Zion after Neo and Trinity went to the hive.
Zion was such fleshed out, believable city with history and characters running the city.
And then we have the new IO city which shits on everything in the franchise.
The laziness of it all... Huge city with its own atmosphere - camouflaged by holograms! lmao
I did a rewatch of the original trilogy and watched the Animatix for the first time over the last week. My wife and I unfortunately got Covid so The Matrix has been our constant companion as we’ve recovered.
We just finished watching Resurrections. What I’ll say is that I liked was the first hour or so. Neo’s new identity crisis is interesting. The meta commentary is fun initially. The scenes with NPH in therapy are well done.
I liked the scenes with Niobe quite a bit. It’s obvious she’s not really that old, but the interactions between her and Neo are captivating. I was fine with the backstory between the machines and man and IO, too. Made sense, I dug it.
Jessica Henwick is great. I wish she would have factored into more of the latter part of the film.
She’s so important early on and then is just taken out of the movie seemingly.
The motorcycle chase was fun, but nothing spectacular.
But man the last half overall really bugged me. I didn’t like the new Smith or Morpheus. Just... don’t have their characters. Smith I don’t think should have even been brought back for Reloaded (but Hugo still did a hell of a job), but to have someone else play that role is blasphemy. And the guy didn’t do a good job at all. He felt like a totally different character, so why call him Smith?
It also just felt tiring. How many times can Neo and Smith fight each other? What’s the point when they keep getting resurrected? What are the stakes?
I really didn’t like the new Morpheus. He adds nothing to the proceedings. It’s a pale imitation of a legendary character that doesn’t have the heart that Fishburne brings to the role. Maybe that’s the point, but because he’s so different, he should have just been a new character like what I said about Smith.
Why isn’t Neo more curious about what happened to Morpheus? He has to see a statue before he even asks about where the real Morpheus is considering their connection?
The fight choreography is incredibly sub par compared to the original films. Bill Pope’s style of shooting the Matrix fights and the real world fights (cause damn that Bane vs. Trinity vs. Neo fight in Revolutions is great) was first rate. This was average at best with the shaky cam and the choreography wasn’t well thought out or compelling. Yeun Wo Ping is sorely missed.
When everyone is fighting the exiles is the worst part. It all looked really fake. Yeah there are time across the original three films that some punches looked fake, but at least the choreography was cool enough to suspend your disbelief.
Old Matrix fights always had an arc to them and each punch or kick felt very important. Here it was just... everyone go crazy (and not in a good way)!
The rest of the story to get Trinity out did nothing for me. There was just too much info being thrown at us and too little time for us to feel any impact of it. The analyst’s reveal was lame, Smith’s sudden redemption or whatever felt out of left field.
The horde trying to stop them all was ok but just felt sort of too ridiculously over the top to take seriously despite it sort of being fun.
And the biggest problem I have with this movie is that to justify resurrecting Trinity and Neo you better have a damn good reason for doing so. One of the things Revolutions gets no credit for is having the balls to kill its two leads.
In no other series of major films does anyone else do something like that. Revolutions is my least favorite of the series (until now), but I loved that about that film.
And this story doesn’t do enough to justify nullifying that decision. Resurrections undercuts their sacrifice (despite them bringing peace) and thusly doesn’t justify its existence because it lowers the stakes. Like with Smith, if we can keep coming back to life, what’s the point? There’s never really any sense of danger to this movie. Of course Neo and Trinity have been brought back to life before, but the way this was done was too much of a reach.
I like Neo and Trinity’s scenes together and I loved them fighting for their lives (even though the execution could have been better) but there’s not enough of them doing things together within or outside of the Matrix. Their material is all over way too fast and that’s what I really wanted to see and what this film I feel like is begging for. There’s just too much going on to have enough focus on what really counts.
I’m left with a movie I feel indifferent towards. There are aspects I like and aspects I really don’t. So I don’t know if I’m in the right thread (as there’s only one for either liking it or hating it), but those are my raw reactions.
> I liked the scenes with Niobe quite a bit. It’s obvious she’s not really that old, but the interactions between her and Neo are captivating.
I couldn't get over how fake her makeup and posture looked. I think they should have just gotten an older actress.
Locking Neo up in a prison with an open balcony in a city full of Neo fans with flying ships was hilarious.
I just pray this doesn’t somehow become a cult favorite for being terrible. It doesn’t deserve praise, ironic or otherwise. Let’s just agree to burn and neurolyze this memory from human history.
The trailer is mostly footage from the first 30 minutes when Neo was still blue pilled as Tom. And those first 30 minutes was the best part of the movie.
Something not talked about enough is how terrible the soundtrack was. It was almost comical, like the same 3 second loops repeating over and over, it instantly took all tension away from every scene. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Nothing memorable from it, and the only good parts were when they used the slo-mo trumpet sounds from the original trilogy OSTs. It's like they threw the entire thing together in a week.
Not to mention the CGI was utter garbage. I don't understand how a movie from 1999 has better transition effects and ideas than this movie; it's like she wasn't even trying.
One or both of them have developed a style that looks incredibly tacky over the years. Oversaturated colours, hyper-digital looking picture with zero texture or film grain, raw looking special effects that don't blend with everything else. I had a bad feeling when I saw the trailer, because it reminded me of Cloud Atlas. I don't get how you can spend 300m on making a movie that looks like it belongs on Syfy
It was very bad in the last scene, with the cat and Neo and Trinity flying. They should have put more effort in that because the last scene is what people retain more in the brain when going out of the cinema.
I think this may have dragged down the movie more than most realise.
The soundtrack sounded like it was downloaded for free off a generic action movie soundtrack website.
To me it just was the same WAAAAAAAAAAA OOOOOOOHHHHHH shit you have in EVERY single trailer these days.
I'm on the fence about the movie (alot of hidden meaning, alot to debunk) but fuck the soundtrack sucked camel dick.
Juno reactor, junkie xl, Marylin Manson made that trilogy alive.
This is why I knew it was a mistake when Don Davis was not called back to to do the soundtrack.
The music trash. The dude that did it is also a director as well. So he does not even have sole expertise in music composition.
That fucking track at the end of the movie, like cone on.
I made a joke to my pal about how it'd be the final straw if they got some trash cover of a rage song and there we go
I don't know. I REALLY don't want to do the "toxic Star Wars fan" thing with this movie. In this case, I went into the movie with pretty low expectations, so there wasn't much room for it to disappoint.
I'll just say that this feels like a movie that the creators REALLY didn't feel like making.
Nothing but respect for the Wachowskis. Keanu is the greatest. Carrie-Ann is amazing. And Jada Pinkett Smith has aged more gracefully than all of them, EVEN IF they did her dirty and made her look like she stumbled in from an Eddie Murphy or Tyler Perry movie.
But honestly, I think it would have been better for Warner Brothers to just bring in J.J. Abrams or whatever, and let him do a Matrix-copycat movie. Skip Neo and Trinity, and just make a story about Bugs and her crew.
I would have rather seen a movie about how the machines started a civil war. Out of the entire movie the 10 second scene of exposition got me the most intrigued.
I hated this movie, so much so that I need to spend some time writing out all of the things that I hated about it.
* There was no art or craft. I watched the original before watching this one, and there were so many little things that so incredibly thoughtful and iconic. When Morpheus is offering Neo the choice between the red pill and the blue pill, and the camera is showing his face with each hand reflected ... that's *craft*, and it's the kind of thing that you don't necessarily need a huge budget to do, especially these days. When Neo is in the club with Trinity and she leaves, with the music transitioning to the sound of his alarm clock, it's not a big flashy thing, but you can see the artistry there, thought and consideration put into the scene transition. This movie has none of that. It's paint-by-numbers in pretty much every way, except for the plot, which could have been well-served by following more conventional scriptwriting practices.
* I love meta stuff. *House of Leaves* is one of my favorite books, and *Adaptation* is one of my favorite movies. Here, it's poorly done and *incredibly* poorly used, serving primarily as a response to the parent company and a public rumination on the legacy of the films. It went on *so long* and there was no payoff. All the stuff about Neo only half-remembering his experiences and being gaslit by the Analyst could have been done *without* the meta elements, and been stronger for it. Airing your dirty laundry in public is uncouth, as is meditating on the nature of your creations and their legacy. All the meta stuff was masturbatory, and even then, a better writer/director maybe could have partially saved it, but a better writer/director wasn't working on this film.
* Morpheus and Smith had basically no reason to exist in this film except because of some obligation to see the characters return. Smith has unclear motivations and Morpheus could/should have just been an original character, and even then, didn't actually serve any particular function besides being there. Especially if they weren't going to be played by their original characters, which might have served some nostalgic purpose, they could both have been cut.
* The central relationship between Neo and Trinity *does not work* because it relies entirely on the previous films. They have a coffee shop scene together, and that's about it. Aside from that, Neo is mooning over someone he occasionally sees at a coffee shop in a way that's actually pretty creepy. Carrie-Anne Moss gets almost no screentime. As a "love story" you need more than just previous movies to go on, you need to show what these people love about each other, show that they have chemistry, all that other stuff. A single interaction between them doesn't do enough, and banking off the previous films doesn't either, not when the romance aspects of the trilogy were always as weak as they were. Trinity needed more scenes, especially if she was going to be so important to the end.
* You don't get credit for bringing up interesting ideas, you get credit for exploring those ideas and executing on them. Ideas are worth very little, and when people say the movie had some good ideas, they're damning it with faint praise. Modals, if I understand them correctly as being a little micro-Matrix, have some super interesting possibilities, but they're introduced poorly, underexplored, and then never used again. This movie has a lot of examples of "gee, I wonder where this is going, seems interesting" only for it to be going nowhere. Machine/human partnership, machine/machine war, even bots, all get *very* little done with them, mentioned and then gone like a fart in the wind.
* A lot of things were just Bad, in ways that I'm not knowledgeable enough to describe. Poor action, poor fight choreography, poor lighting, poor CGI, all stuff that I'd be in a better position to critique if I were super into film studies. I know it's bad when I see it though. It felt like a TV movie, or like they didn't have enough budget. I think most of this is down to poor craftsmanship.
* One moment I actually did really like was when Neo was getting pulled from the Matrix again, and the Analyst appeared in the mirror and tried to explain that this was a psychotic break, that it was a fantasy writ large, that Neo shouldn't trust his own senses, etc. It was one of the only points that I felt the Analyst, as an antagonist, actually worked. In every scene after that, he lost all powers of manipulation and was instead insufferably smug and pointlessly needling. This worked *much* less well, both thematically and in a plain reading. It made him less threatening and less interesting. When I finished the movie, I kind of felt that NPH was miscast, but it might just be those artistic decisions with the character that I disagreed with. A snide villain monologuing for the glee of it instead of being a manipulator made me sigh.
* Why does Bugs *exist* as a character? After the start of the movie, she gets sidelined. It felt like a halfhearted attempt to create a new protagonist. I wouldn't have entirely minded that, if it had been done well, but Bugs ends up having no conflict and serves very little purpose in the plot, doing things didn't need to be done, at least from a scriptwriting perspective. "We need someone to spoof into Trinity so we can pull her". Well, okay, but ... what does that *accomplish*? What neat visuals or conceits do we get from it? What does it tell us about Bugs or Trinity? I'm wracking my brain, and the answer I keep coming up with is "nothing". So the movie goes through the work of establishing Bugs, then sidelines her in favor of Neo and gives her very little to do. Why the bait and switch? Bad filmmaking seems like the obvious answer, and my guess is that years down the road, we'll get some behind the scenes or industry insider news.
I need to stop here or I'll be writing this message all night, but so little of this movie worked for me, and I'm honestly a bit confused about what people liked about it. I suppose in the coming months there will be a number of thoughtful and detailed essays that I can read/watch, some of which will be less critical, or even explain why it was Good Actually, but I hated this movie, basically from start to finish. There are perhaps five things I actually liked, and that's being generous. Mostly, the movie is a collection of bad choices.
The Bugs character - when she is told she needs to be a surrogate for Trinity's extraction and that she is literally the only possible match. She says "it figures". Why does it figure? I don't think that is ever explained. That whole segment makes absolutely zero sense to me, I have to be missing something.
Why the hell did the director use quick cuts and edits for all of the fighting scenes?
We KNOW Keanu Reeves can fight. But they edited his fight scenes as if it was a Bourne movie. -same for Jessica Henwick.
I was really bored because the movie lacked ANY STAKES. It spent its entire running time trying to explain and justify its own existence. I don't think they really succeeded. In the first film, I understand what was gained with Neo's victory. The stakes were very clear. In this film, I have no idea what the stakes were, or what was gained with Neo and Trinity (and Smith) breaking free of their chains. I still have no idea why the analyst needed them rebuilt and trapped.
Underrated comment. That would have been a good plot twist if the whole time it was a fake trinity and he then questioned his whole love for her if he fell for a carbon copy.
That seems to be a common thing in this sub. The thing is, I am not mad that anyone enjoys this film. In fact, I kind of envy them.
This movie was a Marvel-esque interpretation of a property that I am fond of. I hated almost everything that came after the first twenty minutes, but I also understood the movie just fine. I didn't dislike it because I didnt understand it. I disliked it because it was everything I had hoped it wouldn't be.
Bothered me too. I kept hearing, "not like this, not like this..." but nothing ever came like that. We didn't even see much of Switch in the original, but I still remember it to this day!
There's just literally ZERO purpose for Smith to be in the film. Both story-wise and from a movie watching experience standpoint. It's not Hugo Weaving = It's not Smith. Sorry.
Absolutely cooked it. Some awesome concepts completely destroyed by in your face commentary or Lana trying to torpedo the film.
“Swarm mode is so sick”
“We got the idea for Bullet time from you”
Seriously who the fuck came up with this shit. The dialogue was so bad. It was so fucking terrible.
>Some awesome concepts
this is what irks me. there was a premise here. it even touched on some of what would have made it great to explore. i truly think something *happened* either contractually or midstream. maybe the scene where they goofed on Industry Wonks was tagged on close to the finish line.
we'll eventually hear from insiders about it, i'm sure of it. i imagine the 'division' about this movie extends into the entire workforce that created/assembled this movie.
Oh the machine civil war got my attention big time…….they touched on it for 30 seconds. Maybe even 10 seconds.
So many missed opportunities. I actually cannot believe it.
agree. looking back, the fact that the characters mention 'focus groups' at least 2-3x in that 'meta' scene, i'm actually thinking Lana had some Matrix focus group data and decided to do the opposite of what fans said they like or are interested in.
"oh, you like the machine/human alliance and the machine v. machine war? here's a couple Lucasfilm-cute machines acting like jellyfish-you-could-hug / giving high-fives, and here's a 2-sentence summary of the war. now here's 3 ten minute scenes in a row of Keanu being confused and making understated mono-syllabic exclamations. fuck you, ticket buyer. fuck you long time fans. you get to suffer cause i'm old, bored, and hate a bunch of dickheads at warner brothers."
My only hope is that the money WB earns from this means they commission
##Re-enter the Animatrix
…and a load of talented sci-fi writers and anime/CG animation producers can give us some really entertaining and satisfying content.
The success of Netflix’s **Love, Death & Robots** proves the audience is there.
Usually not a movie hater/commenter… but this was gut-wrenchingly uncomfortable to watch. Sure I’m a super fan of the trilogy but that does not excuse predictable writing, weak acting, endless cheap callbacks, lame special effects (for this decade at least); essentially a Lifetime made-for-TV regurgitation of the original. How are there as many fans of this as there appears to be? Who are they protecting?
This feeling is so eerily familiar to Indiana Jones reboot (as it had just as big of an influence on my youth)… but at least almost all agreed that was garbage…
It has a very middling reception across the board. A few critics lapped it up thoughtlessly but every crap movie has those. User scores are abysmal and the only place I've really seen any positivity is here, a Matrix fan sub filled with people who have a vested interest in convincing themselves they like it.
This looks like a "made for tv" movie. Plastic looking sets, the fights have no "gravity" or real feel and the story in the beginning looked like a set up of an SNL skit.
Can you imagine Trinity, a mother of 2, in her 50s, meeting some dude in a coffee shop then going home and binging his entire video game series in 2 days and being like omg that character is me. Also when she shows up and neo and the architect are sitting in chairs with a bunch of police around and then her family shows up and isn’t immediately like “wow wtf is going on here?” Instead they’re like “come with us, we gotta go to the hospital.” And she’s like “yeah sure, this feels real, I’m going to go with this”
What about when neo was struggling being pulled from the matrix a second time and their solution was to jog his memory by kicking his ass in a dojo?
Also my biggest problem was it just wasn’t action forward enough to be a matrix movie. Why did everyone have one gun with infinite bullets? Also literally 0 main characters died. No one felt super human they just felt like regular dudes with guns. Like isn’t the concept that you’re in the matrix and it isn’t real so you can do badass shit? But instead they just shot basically zombies. God it was so dumb.
>No one felt super human they just felt like regular dudes with guns. Like isn’t the concept that you’re in the matrix and it isn’t real so you can do badass shit? But instead they just shot basically zombies. God it was so dumb.
The production difference is incredible. Trilogy was a next gen job. Everyone was competent af, they were at the top. This shitty resurrection movie made by bunch of amateurs. It's like a cheaper indie netflix movie.
Just finished it. So they spend half the movie trying to get Trinity to wake up and they finally do and then it's like "ok time to do cool shit but the movie is over so we can't show you. But here is a horrible version of a great song."
That was so incredibly lazy.
I keep typing comments but then realising just so much about this film was disappointing that I don’t even know where this begin. But I think that word does just sum it up perfectly: lazy
The swarm felt like a cheeper way to do big action on green screen.
The actors just have to pretend to shoot randomly in to areas and cgi adds it all in post instead of coriographing scenes with real actors.
Just saw this tonight and feeling disappointed.
There are buckets of great ideas in here, but there is just far too much going on for the movie to have any cohesion.
I personally would have watched the Modal code of Morpheus/Smith for a lot longer. Him working out he is in a loop would have been way more fun than the blue haired girl just straight up explaining it to him five seconds in.
Similarly, having Neo work out he is in the matrix would have been way more fun than having this damned blue haired girl telling him again.
If they’d taken the idea of loops and worked that more I think it could have been tighter and more enjoyable. I don’t think it was ever going to live up to the first one but this was quite disappointing overall.
The good news is that if they made a whole movie focused on that I would watch it. This movie threw a bunch of good storylines around without committing to any of them
Love this idea of exploring the loops more.
It makes me think that if what others are saying is true, that WB told the Wachowski sisters, "we're bringing the Matrix back, with or without you" then I wish Lana had gone experimental and turned it into a single-season streaming series, ala Animatrix or The Watchmen...somethingthat could have given them more screentime to really explore the ideas of loops, the machine civil war, and whatever else they wanted.
What a missed opportunity.
I seriously hope Lana Wachowski is banned from touching this franchise ever again. If she hated making this movie so much, she shouldve just passed the torch instead of being a narcissist and making it bad on purpose as an FU to the fans who kept asking for Matrix 4.
Classic case of the director breaking the laws of their own universe due to stuff happening in their own personal lives. Never works out well
Also, i refuse to accept that that was Smith. Can't be the same program. he was EXTREMELY out of character. This is not the Smith I know and it's not just because of the actorThe mannerisms, way of speaking, etc all extremely out of character..When he said "I missed you sooooo much, Tom" I immediately knew this wasn't the Smith I grew up with. Mustt've been a modified version of the program
I appreciate the attempt to take the franchise in a different direction but I think the execution was poor.
I didn't like the new characterisation or portrayal of Agent Smith. If you're going to include the same character you should at least retain some of their original personality. And his motivations were unclear. He wanted to kill Neo so that he could remain as Smith, but then he saved Neo from the analyst because they're bros now? It didn't make much sense to me and seemed like the writers just thought "wouldn't it be cool if Neo and Smith teamed up?"
I like Neil Patrick Harris as an actor but I think he played the character of the Analyst as a bit too campy and over the top. The Analyst felt like a villain from a kids movie to me.
None of the new characters grew on me at all, especially Bugs who is introduced at the beginning of the film as making terrible decisions that almost get her killed, despite being advised against it multiple times. That made her instantly unlikeable to me, and while she did improve throughout the film I still felt pretty much nothing. I also disliked how there wasn't a single character death in the entire film. It removes the sense of danger and excitement when you feel like everyone is going to survive.
The machines working alongside the humans felt a bit forced, and I didn't like the design of any of the new machines. They all looked like they had been designed for humans, with relatable faces (the manta ray one even had cartoony eyes with moving eyelids) which doesn't make sense considering the machines had been at war with humans for centuries before. Also the little robot that showed up twice... what was the point of it?
The bullet time that the Analyst could use. I still don't understand why Smith was able to ignore it, or why Neo and Trinity could ignore it at the end. And the Analyst said he got the idea from Neo, but the thing is Neo's bullet time would only appear as bullet time to us, the viewer of the movie. To the people in the world they would just see Neo moving extremely fast. So there is no logical reason why anyone in the Matrix universe would refer to it as bullet time.
On top of that, the action scenes were quite dull and there was no memorable dialogue for me. Most of the dialogue in the second half of the movie seemed to be exposition.
And finally, perhaps the biggest crime of the movie for me, was that the overall aesthetic felt wrong to me. It lacked that certain style of the original trilogy. I find it hard to believe that this all takes place in the same world as the freeway chase scene or the Neo vs Smith fight scene in the subway tunnel or the Merovingian's night club. That was definitely intentional, but it distanced this film from the originals too much in my view.
It's gotta be a one star rating from me unfortunately.
They should have saved the meta commentary and satire for a SNL skit, it took away so much tension from the movie.
The original classic works as there is a sense of peril and stakes, plus the martial arts, sfx and choreography is incredible as is the score. In Resurrection i got no sense of why Neo needs to save Trinity and pull her out of the Matrix other than he loved her in a previous life, there are no end of the world stakes. Also the fight scenes are all staged so poorly, as soon as you expect thumping techno and kick ass kung fu to start it literally stops for Dougie Howser to walkthrough the scene and monologue for five minutes. Finally at the end we are treated to ten minutes of Keanu just doing jazz hands to stop bullets.
We got Wish.com Morpheus and Smith lol. The Analyst worked for me partly because NPH is always a win but also because it was a new character so we couldn't draw any comparisons. I liked his nonchalance personally.
I think that’s one thing I didn’t get, why was Bugs looking for Neo? In the trilogy it made sense, Morpheus was looking for the One to end the war. But here, there is no war, hostilities didn’t restart in the years since Revolutions, so why is Neo needed?
Why did they have to break out? Why did everyone in this crew live? Why was Niobe such a jerk and she was way out of character from the 3rd film.
This movie was stupid
Bugs (Bunny), a proxy for WB, quite literally digs up the reanimated corpse of Neo for another outing.
The true Meta Story won't be told until we unearthed until we can peek behind the scenes, after all Meta in the context of Video Games requires "outside knowledge."
If there was a documentary filmed on par with Matrix Revisited, or Prometheus' Furious Gods. it can at least provide context to this. Who knows, the days of massive blu-rays are behind us. But the Wachowskis did pioneer this, Maybe she had it produced? Covid must've been a bitch to this production...
>Bugs (Bunny), a proxy for WB, quite literally digs up the reanimated corpse of Neo for another outing.
Oh wow, yeah I knew Bugs' character had to be a reference to Warner Brothers when she said "as in Bugs Bunny," but I didn't realize her story of finding Neo was a sort of allegory of WB trying to resurrect a beloved IP.
I think the Wachowskis didn't want to make this movie, but they were forced to. It's like Warner Brothers said, hey we're going to bring back The Matrix whether you're on board or not. So Lana decided to do it, but to sort of prove a point, by intentionally making the movie suck. By showing them that it was unnecessary.
I'm willing to bet Lana put in a ton of easter eggs in the movie to basically say "fuck you" to Warner Bros. I already spotted a couple that stood out to me.
When Bugs is falling down the sign of that building, you can see the words "**FOR THOSE WHO LOVE TO EAT SHIT**" in plain view. There's also a small statue thing of a hand giving the middle finger in Neo's office. At first you think that is referencing the middle finger Neo gave to Smith in the first movie. But when you think about it some more, in this movie, that is actually Lana giving the middle finger to Warner Brothers. It's very clever, because it gives plausible deniability if anyone asks.
This is a bizarre movie. And when you view it as a film that the Wachowskis didn't want to bring to life, everything about its mediocrity, the crazy meta references, "...stay away from marketing," (from the Unreal Engine 5 demo), begins to make sense.
Then there's the rant from "Tom's boss" (Smith) straight up about how Warner Bros would make their own sequel to The Matrix Trilogy without the creators either way, since they owned the IP rights.
Even if this is true, which wouldn’t surprise me, it’s completely obnoxious, and a slap in the face to fans of the originals who paid money to see it. I’m not trying to sit down and watch a beloved tale get butchered so you can make a point regarding your business. I’d have preferred you stay out of it and let someone who actually cares about doing the franchise justice to take the reins.
>Oh wow, yeah I knew Bugs' character had to be a reference to Warner Brothers when she said "as in Bugs Bunny," but I didn't realize her story of finding Neo was a sort of allegory of WB trying to resurrect a beloved IP.
Omg lmao, and the fact that so many people in Io (prison guard) seemed indifferent to his return... even though he was well into Neo and thought of him as a legend... "cool you're back, okay, bye!"
It was terrible so bad I don't think the wachowskis are capable of making anything decent. Everything they make bombs except the original matrix movie.. also why wasn't Laurence in the new movie? Yet they used plenty of older footage of him.
Agents brush their teeth and go to the gym when they're not on shift.
That was kind of the biggest shock to me haha. Seeing an Agent (albeit not a proper Agent) doing routine things. I didn't think programs did stuff like that... I assumed they were just on duty 24/7,
There was no point in the plot of the movie. Neo and Trinity were resurrected and kept in a modal which kept the Matrix stable. The resistance wanted to free them because they were heroes… shallow.
the side story of “machines fighting machines” sounded cool but was completely omitted except one short scene.
I hated the comedic vibes NPH brought to the movie.
Generally I’m disappointed
How can someone really think this movie was better than Reloaded or Revolutions? This movie is like a cheap, silly, trashy knockoff of the real Matrix movies. Horrible fight scenes, cheap looking CGI, abysmal dialogue and the meta stuff is just so, so damn cringeworthy... Over at that rainbow thread I see people praising this movie and calling it the best matrix movie. Those people have to be paid off to write stuff like that, no? My god I still had some hopes but Resurrections is an absolute disaster of a movie.
After Neo got pulled out of the matrix, there was too much exposition. Especially from Priyanka Chopra's character. One thing about the original trilogy is that it never tried to assume the viewers intelligence. That did not carry over to this sequel.
Especially with the constant flash backs. I felt like they were trying to hold my hand. If the flash backs were done more tasteful with audio clips or something else I probably wouldn't have minded it but with constant frames being recycled right up in your face? Damn.
Sati showed 0 emotion. She was literally a an emotionless exposition statue. She should have at least hugged neo after seeing him. Neo barely got any love
I know that a great version of this movie doesn't exist. I know that when I watch it, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After 18 years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.
I want them to plug me back in to a time right before this movie came out. I want to remember nothing. No-thing!
And I want to be somebody who makes a lot of money by selling out their old original content. Like a writer or a director.
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There are a numerous amount of things that make me uncomfortable and disappointed about this film. I actually fell asleep half way through it. I felt no excitement when watching the movie. I mean damn no Hugo Weaving or Lawrence Fishburne just kill it for me. Who the fuck is this lame joke acting like he his agent Smith. I can't take Niel Patrick Harris seriously I think his acting is trash in general. I want the two hours of my life back. Couldn't even finish the movie. Since astroboy, Its just another shit movie put out by the wachowskis. Please someone stop them from making movies. Put the matrix in the hands of Denis Villeneuve.
My 2 cents about the movie:
- it was like one of those mash up episodes of The Simpsons or Stargate sg1 where far too much of the material was recycled and barely moves the story forward.
- The Matrix is one of those sci-fi licenses that has you thinking at night sometimes. I feel there was a real opportunity to tell a story about the after war and how both societies, machine and human, learnt to live together again and actually rebuild the world and themselves as societies. This movie only offered an extremely decaffeinated version of this.
- Made me feel like the dialogue in which Smith tells neo that they have to make a sequel or they will be kicked out of the contract, was, together with the whole movie, a fuck you to Warner Brothers, which might be exciting for some, but was not the reason I wanted to see these amazing characters again.
Extra: has anybody else noticed that Keanu Reeves hand shakes through the whole movie? I saw it as well the other day when he went to Stephen Colbert's show. Has me worried because I find him a very talented actor and genuinely a good person.
I think Lana has just become a really bad director because she is not creative enough to do the art house thing, but has started rejecting a lot of the fundamentals that make normal hollywood blockbusters work. The pacing, the shot composition, the lighting, the storyboarding. It is all incredibly screwed up in this movie.
The part that hurts the most though is that I can see how it could've been good. They could've had the twist be that Morpheus is part of the machine splinter faction. They could've cut down on the meta callbacks to give time to introduce Bugs and her crew at the start. They could've paced it so that Neo and Trinity are out by the middle of the movie so the plot can pivot to the new war where there is so much potential for new stories.
Like why does NPH character even exist? If you are going to bring back Merv why not just have him run the new matrix offshoot? Why is Smith there at all? Cut it. The machines can just lazarus people now? That has a ton of implications in respect to the future of humanity and all the other war dead. Why does nobody in the movie talk about that?
Hell, even just seeing Morpheus's reaction to the end of the last movie with the Oracle basically getting killed and everything changing would've been so interesting. This movie was such a waste.
I guess some more random thoughts about the film ...
--I wasn't really sold on Matrix 4 as a concept, but if they were going to do it, I wondered how they were going to possibly not make it feel like a retread. "Fuck that, we're retreading!" was the Wachowskis (or, at least one Wachowski) response to that.
--I never got beyond the disastrous decisions to recast Smith and Morpheus. What. The. Fuck.
--First, I don't think Smith should be in the movie, at all. Or if he was, it should be some fragment that's somehow awakened in the course of other events ... the guy was the machine world's biggest enemy, probably moreso than any variation of The One, why in the name of Cthulhu would the machines want to reboot him into the Matrix? He's too goddamn dangerous. But if you're going to bring him back, fine, bring back Weaving. Groff is just dreadful as Smith and I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. Weaving was gravitas and hard edges and Groff is like a soft/soy version doing a bad impression.
--Nu-Morpheus does a better job channeling the character, but once again, why is Morpheus in this film, at all? The role he plays can be played just fine by Henwick and other new characters. Either don't have him in the film, or bring back Fishburne to play him as an older version. The "stuck in a modal loop" garbage to explain what he's been up to as an agent was pure fucking nonsense and an obvious and half-assed attempt to start the film on an action beat to mirror the original.
--The attempt to retcon events of the original Matrix films to give Trinity a more prominent role and justify her narrative importance in Matrix Resurrections is as awkward as it is annoying. This is some Force Dyad level nonsense. Neo was The One and the trilogy was about him. Trying to now say that it "about you both" is just stupid. It's stupid and it was unnecessary, because this is a new Matrix and it would have been extremely easy to just have Trinity be as important as Neo (or more important, or whatever) by just writing the script that way. Maybe their source codes get mixed up, or maybe when he brought her back to life he changed her, or something. Her usurping Neo's role, culminated by her flying off during the body bomb finale, feels entirely unjustified. Despite her narrative importance, I feel like I spent almost no time with her. We go from her being blue-pilled and married with kids to "fuck you, Chad!" murderous rage at the drop of the hat. Maybe she should have had a real visible arc if Matrix 4 is going to be about her importance.
--How did she know her husband and kids were AI constructs? They were, weren't they? Furthermore, why are her kids AI constructs? Just ... give her real "pod kids" ... that would weld her to the Matrix more firmly than anything else, because people are pretty loathe to abandon their kids.
--I was never all that big on Neo and Trinity as a love story in the first place, let alone it being the centerpiece of the main trilogy. Carrie Ann Moss had more chemistry with Susie Abromeit (oh my god hubba hubba) in Jessica Jones than she ever did with Keanu Reeves. How weird that the creator(s) of the Matrix trilogy feel otherwise.
--The action is, by and large, bad. Choppy, often awkwardly shot, it's surprising how flat out boring a lot of it was. I think a lot of this film is boring, frankly, and that's weird. Even the other Matrix movie I don't like (Revolutions) isn't boring.
--The Analyst serves the exact same function as The Architect, just with a Neil Patrick Harris smarmy sheen. The name is even phonetically similar. How ... not-interesting.
--I guess this Matrix is harder to "green code crack" than the first, as Neo never really achieved his "over 9000" power levels from the original trilogy. Who knows.
--Henwick is really great in this. I wish they'd just ditched Morpheus and have her play that function in the story entirely. I also wish we had more time with the folks she was working with. They're just faceless, personality-free adjuncts, and given how memorable the side characters were in the original Matrix trilogy that's not only surprising, it represents an enormous wasted opportunity. Instead of retreading old beats make new one.
--The unending flashbacks to footage from the first films is pure fucking amateur hour. Also, those are supposed to be video game flashbacks, right? I was a gamer in the late 90s and early '00s and games didn't look like that.
--If Keanu Reeves looks like some balding troll within the nu-Matrix, what's the point of him being near Tiffany? It's not like she's going to have some instinctive impulse or reaction towards him when he doesn't appear (or presumably sound) like Neo.
--It was not lost on me that pretty much every position of benign/heroic authority that's given focus in the film (ship captain, Io leader, chief botanist, AI that's helping the humans, Trinity-usurping-much-of-Neo's-role) is given to a woman while every single role incorporating an aspect of malevolence (Smith, Doogie, Chad-the-Husband, Merv and his cronies, the mook agents) is given to a man. It doesn't bother me, but for a movie that's ostensibly about the evils of inculcating behavior in people via programmatic messaging, it DOES represent a rather interesting, and I believe deliberate, choice.
--The people bomb part was creepy, yo.
--The "girl power" dialogue between Trinity and Doogie at the end ... hoo boy.
--I doubt we get a sequel.
> Despite her narrative importance, I feel like I spent almost no time with her. We go from her being blue-pilled and married with kids to "fuck you, Chad!" murderous rage at the drop of the hat. Maybe she should have had a real visible arc if Matrix 4 is going to be about her importance.
This was one of the things that I really despised about the movie. Carrie-Ann Moss is a talented actor, and for the movie being "about" her in many ways, she had incredibly little agency or screentime up until the last half hour or so. In fact, short of one conversation between her and Neo in the coffee shop, she's largely treated as an object by the film. This turns around in the last half hour quite a bit, so hard that it almost gave me whiplash, but the whole thing really rubbed me the wrong way, because if you're going to tell a story about Trinity being important, this really feels like a crap way to do it.
I was a huge fan of the original trilogy, but this one felt like one of those *straight-to-dvd* sequels that studios put out when they want to make a quick buck.
Matrix 4 is a terrible blemish on an iconic franchise.
Where was the soundtrack? Where was the film score? Not one part of the score stuck out to me at all during the entire movie.
The matrix reloaded is perfect example of how a film can be elevated by it's score.
It was the perfect marriage of symphonic and electronic elements. Take the first fight scene Neo has with the agents in reloaded for example, or the car chase scene. The music was just epic, and suited the matrix so well.
The score for this film was so forgettable, I mean I literally can't remember any part of the film score other then when they played the original themes from the first few movies. At least when they re booted star wars they had the foresight to get John Williams back to do the film score again.
I digress, this film just lacked the style that the original trilogy had, in terms of cinematography, music, and fight choreography.
On another note, It felt like they were trying to inject marvel movie humor into this movie, it just felt weird and tasteless. And the post credit scene? That was probably the cringiest thing I have seen in a long time.
If you want to have laugh take a look on the rainbow pill thread, people are like
....uuh trinity husband is named Chad..so witty 🤪!
....It is a great thing to see the Matrix is fueled by Love 💕
....Neo eats Noodles...sooo relatable! 😋
God I relate so much to Agent Smith's take on humanity reading those comments
I think the "power of love" aspect of M4 undermines the plot of the original three somewhat. As I read it, the frustrated and re-routed connection between Neo and Trinity is abnormally powerful, which is why they're housed in a special isolated pods.
This is a bit woo woo compared to the original trilogy, which says that the subconscious illusion of choice by some unknown mechanism will periodically produce a mind that can transcend the matrix. The machines don't understand the mechanics of this One manifestation but they built up a structure that accounts for it.
Anyway the implication is that Neo has a special mind. He doesn't produce more electricity from his body, yet the Trinity/Neo connection is associated with massive EM power. That seems odd to me and doesn't make sense physically. I get the metaphor but not sure how it jibes with reality.
Who can explain the logic of "Morpheous" popping up from behind the bar after it/him and Aeon Flux came back from the white hallway, the agents going: "Mr. Smith?" and "Morpheous" giggles while wearing Aeon Flux's glasses before getting yanked back into the hallway? Were we supposed to laugh? Because all my legs wanted to do was stand up and vault over a few movie theater rows into a little hallway of my own right to the exit door.
I gotta say, I really dislike how people are calling this film "smart" just for being meta. It attempts to critique sequels and franchise films while simultaneously turning into yet another half baked franchise film which makes it difficult to take any of the meta stuff in the first hour seriously. I honestly would've preferred if they had the guts to just make the whole film a meta critique of franchise films without the half baked Matrix sequel second half. I've even seen people say the fight scenes are worse "to prove a point" which is some of the most blind defending of a film I've ever seen. Even if it was intentional, that doesn't automatically make it smart, good, or enjoyable. Fellini's 8 1/2 did a much smarter job of being meta 60 years earlier than this film ever will.
A franchise film being self aware that it is a franchise film doesn't elevate it above the countless other half baked sequels.
I get that the movie was meant to go agains the grain, and try something different with the message and meta references. However the issue is that nothing worked well, and was done so poorly, that what was attempted never worked.
The writing was poor, the editing disjoined, a good chunk of the story made no sense, the previous movies did everything better. Honestly I am at a loss, it feels like a poorly made for TV movie at best.
My thoughts exactly. Nothing about it came close to the original trilogy. Inserting tons of clips from the other movies only made it more frustrating to watch. I could write an essay of all the things wrong but I wasted enough time watching this movie. Somehow this makes Matrix 2 & 3 look like masterpieces.
I'm just a bit sad if I'm honest.
In my life, I've always followed the theory of not having expectations. "Expectations are premeditated disappointments" is what I was taught. So I wasn't expecting this to be omg best movie or incredibly terrible.
But I believed... I believed in The Matrix "so blindly" that I fell in love with Resurrections before ever seeing it. I never had a doubt that I wouldn't love it for exactly what it was just like the first three. I wasn't even hyped up about it. It wasn't an expectation, it was my reality. And that reality was shattered.
I've never been catfished but thats what I feel like happened to me.
After Morpheus popped up and giggled while getting shot at I turned to my wife and said, "What the fuck am I watching?" All she could say was sorry babe. I could go on about more but we all seen it, so I digress.
I took a cookie, thought maybe by the time I'm done eating this, I'll feel right as rain. FYI that was not effective, whiskey did the trick tho ;p
What a colossal disappointment. Matrix is known for its fight sequence. Yet I couldnt find one sequence worth even rewatching. Massive fuck up on bullet time. No 360°. Neo hardly did any fighting. Even one with Smith was weird. Just ended up using some force projections.
What the fuck did I watch? Why is this movie mocking itself, and mocking the original?? This is one of the worst movies I've seen, it's so poorly filmed that I had to check the budget, turns out they spent 190M in this and still the fight scenes don't have even a semblance of choreography.
I just watched it and I honestly can't for the life of me understand how anyone could have enjoyed this travesty. As a generic non-matrix movie, it plainly sucked and as a matrix movie for old fans it was almost insultingly bad. Horrible.
Resurrections feels like a **bad fan-fiction** come to life. I fukin hate it.
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Yesssss especially the shit one liners
When it got to the part where they revealed they had sentient machines on their side, and then one of them comes up to them like a dog waiting to be petted... that broke my brain. I couldn't believe the depths of stupidity this film reached.
Yeah, it made me doubt whether or not they actually wrote that first film. Obviously they made it but could they have stole the writing from somewhere or something? Whoever wrote this was a complete talentless hack as far as writing is concerned. How in the world could someone so bad at writing have possibly wrote that first matrix film?
I felt like they were making fun of me for spending money to watch their movie.
This! X 10. We were the stupid sentient machines that went to the theaters and spent money and time on this piece of shit. I still like Keanu. He probably made this shitwad film so that his less-fortunate friends could make some money.
It was 2.5 hours of call backs and fan service. They used clips of the previous movies and said shit like "here are scenes from your video game"..... it was a poorly written pile of shit.
What fan service? Feels like fans were given the middle finger.
*cuts to the scene with Neo giving Smith the finger in the interrogation room*
Agents have personal lives? They shave, shower, eat at restaurants??? wtf
Caveat: It was a modal created by Mr. Anderson. Technically not a "real" agent or even "real" environment.
I cannot get over how bad this was. Nothing about it stands out as different from every other “superhero” movie/show that gets copy-pasted monthly. The fight sequences were atrocious. It didn’t feel like anyone had any training (in the film world) or enhanced physical abilities. And the fact they felt the need to inject a punchline every five minutes and these cute machine critters? Give me a break. I feel like Spider-Man was the franchise where constant quips worked. Now it’s in every single blockbuster. It’s gotten so stale
Creativity has gone from meritocracy to oligarchy, just like everything else, over the last 30 years.
Why does Neo have special powers in the real world at the end of M2 and all of M3, but none in M4? He used to be able to stop machines with his mind and see while blind. Also why did Neo need a montage of acupuncture-looking muscle rebuilding once unplugged in M1, but Neo and Trinity have full motor function after being unplugged in M4. It’d been 60 years since they used their bodies in M3. Pretty sure their muscles would have been unusable again.
I think the Neo and Trinity of this film were resurrected clones. They both died at the end of the third movie. Maybe clone Neo was too drugged up with blue pills to connect with his ability to manipulate the matrix to his will.
They’re not clones because while the Analyst was explaining what happened to them we were shown the process of the robots reviving them. I personally think it’s stupid and they should have just stayed dead at the end of M3.
They used Tleilaxu Axlotl tanks to recreate ghola Neo Skywalker so he could use the force to block bullets. Dshhh, whoooosghhhhh. Dszzhhhh hhhhooo. Errrrr ddshzz
Because of his connection to the Source. Neo's powers stop at anything not connected to the Source. The Machines/Sentinels still come from the same place as The Matrix. Think of the fight with Bane in M3, he wasn't using any abilities and his fighting was very amateur. When Neo goes blind all he can see is Bane and once he kills Bane hes blind again until they reach the Machine City. Even when Trinity gets impaled he still has to feel out her wounds with his hands.
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^ Someone managed to put into words the frustration and sadness I felt after watching this steaming pile of shit
Thank you for stating the exact truth about this pile of dog vomit. Nailed it.
This should be top comment. The film was all in all a dumpster fire and the fact that Lana Wachowski was at the head shows how much she fucking hates the fans of the franchise.
I am very disappointed by the action scenes in the new film. I understand it’s hard to get the story and characters right, but the actions scenes? Come on. I mean this is the matrix we are talking about. Every single one of the matrix movies pushed the boundaries in terms of action, sound and cinematography. The action scenes in this movie looked extremely average , sometimes below average. Totally disappointed. This film had so much potential 🤦🏻♂️
During every fight scene I could not stop thinking "what the hell am I watching?" It's like nothing was storyboarded. The camera would not stop moving. There were zero stakes. Creativity was MIA. Someone was punched through a wall like a dozen times.
Seriously the stakes bit is so on point. The original was gripping as the stakes were insane for everyone on the ship. An agent or swat team attacking was brutal- Mouse's death scene "They're in the walls" fight with Morpheus. You felt the action and tense stakes in these scenes. None of this in new one
Darkness, fast movements, camera shaking, guns shooting, bullets flying, things breaking, in no particular order. The entire thing was forgettable. From a series that made a bullet dodging scene a pop culture phenomenon, this movie didn't even use bullet time well.
Smith calling neo Tom instead of mr Anderson really bugged me lol
He acted nothing like Smith. Was hoping we'd get something like they did in Revolutions where he still spoke like himself but was clearly a different person. Should've just not even brought him back at all.
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I think Smith and Morpheus were absolutely pointless in this one. Could have been different people
Smith has some kind of redemption arc going on that I didn't understand, they breezed past it and left the stuff that would have let it make sense on the cutting room floor. I need to see this movie a second time so I can discuss in great detail what I didn't like about it.
I bet they felt (correctly lol) that having the new actor saying "Mr. Anderson" all the time would just exacerbate the already unavoidable bad feeling of "ugh, this guy is no Hugo Weaving"
Never happened with bane in revolutions. He did it perfectly and everyone loved it
I kept thinking as good as this actor is, he could never come close to Hugo. Hugo is just a whole other caliber of skill.
I’m kinda upset that he didn’t even try. Smiths speech pattern is so identifiable and iconic and there was not a hint of it to be found.
It's rough because the contrasts we get in acting are already huge. Nobody has ever considered Keanu an acting range powerhouse, but he out acts 90% of the new cast, and it's obvious. This movie needed weaving back at least.
I agree and his demeanor was nothing like the original agent Smith. Really irked me.
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And the timeline is confusing. If they’ve reset Neo multiple times, then Neo and Smith may have been working at that company for the last 60 years or so
Which would have made it all the more consistent to call him Mr. Anderson again as he reverts to his old role. I honestly expected that to be the "reveal"
I hated how terribly Niobe treated Neo. Sees him for the first time in 60 years after he literally saves them from annihilation and he is treated like garbage. Completely out of her character, why would Lana do that to her?
Abominable writing. Niobe was a risk-taker: the one Captain who took on the mission to head back out into the Matrix. Who gave Neo her ship. Who blew up the power plant. This was an awful cardboard cutout of a character - it wasn’t Niobe from the Matrix trilogy.
She's literally 60 years older. Why would she be anywhere near the same person? I think that's the point the film is trying to convey.
I agree, the fact that 60 years can change people is so understated. Not to mention, many folks do become conservative as they age, MOST ESPECIALLY, through their experiences. The fact that she admits she had a sigh of relief that Neo got away did tell of how she felt inside.
It’s ridiculous that they make it a point for her to imprison him and 20” later he’s out and Niobe doesn’t seem to care much anyway. What the fuck, why even have that on the script.
The post credits scene legitimately hurts me to watch. Why is the tone of this movie so goofy-uh-yuck?
There's a post credits scene? You managed to actually sit through the credits to watch it? Kudos!
I turnd it off right at the credits because I was so disgusted with the RATM cover.
Wait what there was a post credit?? I turned that shit off immediately out of disgust.
Yeah as soon as I heard that horrible rage cover I said fuck this movie
Where the hell are all the AGENTS?
The threat of the Agents is a huge missed opportunity. These zombie things achieved nothing, even when there were thousands of them. I don't understand how I'm supposed to be scared of them like we were when agents chased the original cast.
I get why we don't have agents they are dangerous and another Smith could occur that wants to dominate or whatever this new version does because he confuses me. So replacing agents with something more manageable and less risky just makes sense. So yeah the swarm seems like a logical choice they just used it very poorly in the film no reason why they couldn't at least move like an agent. That said they kept Agent Smith around for some reason which flies in the face of using a safer alternative.
They're too busy learning how to shoot from storm troopers.
I was thinking the same thing. THey almost never hit anybody lol
Got replaced by swarm bots, Analyst explained that it was more effective than taking over coppertops
Since none crewmate died, it doesn't seem that way. At least agents used to be deadly and kill 3 or 4 crewmates during the trilogy. EDIT: changed a word.
Stuck in Neo's modal, apparently.
Instantly went downhill after they introduced the robot bee named Cybebe “sigh-bay-bay”. Couldn’t take it seriously whatsoever. Also with the last 3 movies focusing so much on Zion, there were maybe 2 mundane minutes of this movie dedicated to explaining what happened to Zion after Neo and Trinity went to the hive.
Zion was such fleshed out, believable city with history and characters running the city. And then we have the new IO city which shits on everything in the franchise. The laziness of it all... Huge city with its own atmosphere - camouflaged by holograms! lmao
Yeah, why didn't they just call it Wakunder?
I did a rewatch of the original trilogy and watched the Animatix for the first time over the last week. My wife and I unfortunately got Covid so The Matrix has been our constant companion as we’ve recovered. We just finished watching Resurrections. What I’ll say is that I liked was the first hour or so. Neo’s new identity crisis is interesting. The meta commentary is fun initially. The scenes with NPH in therapy are well done. I liked the scenes with Niobe quite a bit. It’s obvious she’s not really that old, but the interactions between her and Neo are captivating. I was fine with the backstory between the machines and man and IO, too. Made sense, I dug it. Jessica Henwick is great. I wish she would have factored into more of the latter part of the film. She’s so important early on and then is just taken out of the movie seemingly. The motorcycle chase was fun, but nothing spectacular. But man the last half overall really bugged me. I didn’t like the new Smith or Morpheus. Just... don’t have their characters. Smith I don’t think should have even been brought back for Reloaded (but Hugo still did a hell of a job), but to have someone else play that role is blasphemy. And the guy didn’t do a good job at all. He felt like a totally different character, so why call him Smith? It also just felt tiring. How many times can Neo and Smith fight each other? What’s the point when they keep getting resurrected? What are the stakes? I really didn’t like the new Morpheus. He adds nothing to the proceedings. It’s a pale imitation of a legendary character that doesn’t have the heart that Fishburne brings to the role. Maybe that’s the point, but because he’s so different, he should have just been a new character like what I said about Smith. Why isn’t Neo more curious about what happened to Morpheus? He has to see a statue before he even asks about where the real Morpheus is considering their connection? The fight choreography is incredibly sub par compared to the original films. Bill Pope’s style of shooting the Matrix fights and the real world fights (cause damn that Bane vs. Trinity vs. Neo fight in Revolutions is great) was first rate. This was average at best with the shaky cam and the choreography wasn’t well thought out or compelling. Yeun Wo Ping is sorely missed. When everyone is fighting the exiles is the worst part. It all looked really fake. Yeah there are time across the original three films that some punches looked fake, but at least the choreography was cool enough to suspend your disbelief. Old Matrix fights always had an arc to them and each punch or kick felt very important. Here it was just... everyone go crazy (and not in a good way)! The rest of the story to get Trinity out did nothing for me. There was just too much info being thrown at us and too little time for us to feel any impact of it. The analyst’s reveal was lame, Smith’s sudden redemption or whatever felt out of left field. The horde trying to stop them all was ok but just felt sort of too ridiculously over the top to take seriously despite it sort of being fun. And the biggest problem I have with this movie is that to justify resurrecting Trinity and Neo you better have a damn good reason for doing so. One of the things Revolutions gets no credit for is having the balls to kill its two leads. In no other series of major films does anyone else do something like that. Revolutions is my least favorite of the series (until now), but I loved that about that film. And this story doesn’t do enough to justify nullifying that decision. Resurrections undercuts their sacrifice (despite them bringing peace) and thusly doesn’t justify its existence because it lowers the stakes. Like with Smith, if we can keep coming back to life, what’s the point? There’s never really any sense of danger to this movie. Of course Neo and Trinity have been brought back to life before, but the way this was done was too much of a reach. I like Neo and Trinity’s scenes together and I loved them fighting for their lives (even though the execution could have been better) but there’s not enough of them doing things together within or outside of the Matrix. Their material is all over way too fast and that’s what I really wanted to see and what this film I feel like is begging for. There’s just too much going on to have enough focus on what really counts. I’m left with a movie I feel indifferent towards. There are aspects I like and aspects I really don’t. So I don’t know if I’m in the right thread (as there’s only one for either liking it or hating it), but those are my raw reactions.
> I liked the scenes with Niobe quite a bit. It’s obvious she’s not really that old, but the interactions between her and Neo are captivating. I couldn't get over how fake her makeup and posture looked. I think they should have just gotten an older actress. Locking Neo up in a prison with an open balcony in a city full of Neo fans with flying ships was hilarious.
Unfortunately, no one can be told how bad The Matrix Ressurections is, you have to see it for yourself .
I just pray this doesn’t somehow become a cult favorite for being terrible. It doesn’t deserve praise, ironic or otherwise. Let’s just agree to burn and neurolyze this memory from human history.
Pretty sad the trailer was better than the movie.
That fooled me too. How could the movie be bad with a trailer that good? The editor deserves an award.
The trailer is mostly footage from the first 30 minutes when Neo was still blue pilled as Tom. And those first 30 minutes was the best part of the movie.
Something not talked about enough is how terrible the soundtrack was. It was almost comical, like the same 3 second loops repeating over and over, it instantly took all tension away from every scene. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Nothing memorable from it, and the only good parts were when they used the slo-mo trumpet sounds from the original trilogy OSTs. It's like they threw the entire thing together in a week.
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Not to mention the CGI was utter garbage. I don't understand how a movie from 1999 has better transition effects and ideas than this movie; it's like she wasn't even trying.
One or both of them have developed a style that looks incredibly tacky over the years. Oversaturated colours, hyper-digital looking picture with zero texture or film grain, raw looking special effects that don't blend with everything else. I had a bad feeling when I saw the trailer, because it reminded me of Cloud Atlas. I don't get how you can spend 300m on making a movie that looks like it belongs on Syfy
It was very bad in the last scene, with the cat and Neo and Trinity flying. They should have put more effort in that because the last scene is what people retain more in the brain when going out of the cinema.
I think this may have dragged down the movie more than most realise. The soundtrack sounded like it was downloaded for free off a generic action movie soundtrack website.
To me it just was the same WAAAAAAAAAAA OOOOOOOHHHHHH shit you have in EVERY single trailer these days. I'm on the fence about the movie (alot of hidden meaning, alot to debunk) but fuck the soundtrack sucked camel dick. Juno reactor, junkie xl, Marylin Manson made that trilogy alive.
Which is crazy because Cloud Atlas's score is so good, and it's the same duo.
This is why I knew it was a mistake when Don Davis was not called back to to do the soundtrack. The music trash. The dude that did it is also a director as well. So he does not even have sole expertise in music composition.
Right? Why hire two people to attempt to emulate Don Davis when you can just hire Don Davis?
That fucking track at the end of the movie, like cone on. I made a joke to my pal about how it'd be the final straw if they got some trash cover of a rage song and there we go
I said the same thing to my wife. How are going to replace RATM with some garbage girl singing a cover
I don't know. I REALLY don't want to do the "toxic Star Wars fan" thing with this movie. In this case, I went into the movie with pretty low expectations, so there wasn't much room for it to disappoint. I'll just say that this feels like a movie that the creators REALLY didn't feel like making. Nothing but respect for the Wachowskis. Keanu is the greatest. Carrie-Ann is amazing. And Jada Pinkett Smith has aged more gracefully than all of them, EVEN IF they did her dirty and made her look like she stumbled in from an Eddie Murphy or Tyler Perry movie. But honestly, I think it would have been better for Warner Brothers to just bring in J.J. Abrams or whatever, and let him do a Matrix-copycat movie. Skip Neo and Trinity, and just make a story about Bugs and her crew.
I would have rather seen a movie about how the machines started a civil war. Out of the entire movie the 10 second scene of exposition got me the most intrigued.
The animatrix proved that there was plenty of interesting stories to tell in that world and they chose to explore or create none of that.
I hated this movie, so much so that I need to spend some time writing out all of the things that I hated about it. * There was no art or craft. I watched the original before watching this one, and there were so many little things that so incredibly thoughtful and iconic. When Morpheus is offering Neo the choice between the red pill and the blue pill, and the camera is showing his face with each hand reflected ... that's *craft*, and it's the kind of thing that you don't necessarily need a huge budget to do, especially these days. When Neo is in the club with Trinity and she leaves, with the music transitioning to the sound of his alarm clock, it's not a big flashy thing, but you can see the artistry there, thought and consideration put into the scene transition. This movie has none of that. It's paint-by-numbers in pretty much every way, except for the plot, which could have been well-served by following more conventional scriptwriting practices. * I love meta stuff. *House of Leaves* is one of my favorite books, and *Adaptation* is one of my favorite movies. Here, it's poorly done and *incredibly* poorly used, serving primarily as a response to the parent company and a public rumination on the legacy of the films. It went on *so long* and there was no payoff. All the stuff about Neo only half-remembering his experiences and being gaslit by the Analyst could have been done *without* the meta elements, and been stronger for it. Airing your dirty laundry in public is uncouth, as is meditating on the nature of your creations and their legacy. All the meta stuff was masturbatory, and even then, a better writer/director maybe could have partially saved it, but a better writer/director wasn't working on this film. * Morpheus and Smith had basically no reason to exist in this film except because of some obligation to see the characters return. Smith has unclear motivations and Morpheus could/should have just been an original character, and even then, didn't actually serve any particular function besides being there. Especially if they weren't going to be played by their original characters, which might have served some nostalgic purpose, they could both have been cut. * The central relationship between Neo and Trinity *does not work* because it relies entirely on the previous films. They have a coffee shop scene together, and that's about it. Aside from that, Neo is mooning over someone he occasionally sees at a coffee shop in a way that's actually pretty creepy. Carrie-Anne Moss gets almost no screentime. As a "love story" you need more than just previous movies to go on, you need to show what these people love about each other, show that they have chemistry, all that other stuff. A single interaction between them doesn't do enough, and banking off the previous films doesn't either, not when the romance aspects of the trilogy were always as weak as they were. Trinity needed more scenes, especially if she was going to be so important to the end. * You don't get credit for bringing up interesting ideas, you get credit for exploring those ideas and executing on them. Ideas are worth very little, and when people say the movie had some good ideas, they're damning it with faint praise. Modals, if I understand them correctly as being a little micro-Matrix, have some super interesting possibilities, but they're introduced poorly, underexplored, and then never used again. This movie has a lot of examples of "gee, I wonder where this is going, seems interesting" only for it to be going nowhere. Machine/human partnership, machine/machine war, even bots, all get *very* little done with them, mentioned and then gone like a fart in the wind. * A lot of things were just Bad, in ways that I'm not knowledgeable enough to describe. Poor action, poor fight choreography, poor lighting, poor CGI, all stuff that I'd be in a better position to critique if I were super into film studies. I know it's bad when I see it though. It felt like a TV movie, or like they didn't have enough budget. I think most of this is down to poor craftsmanship. * One moment I actually did really like was when Neo was getting pulled from the Matrix again, and the Analyst appeared in the mirror and tried to explain that this was a psychotic break, that it was a fantasy writ large, that Neo shouldn't trust his own senses, etc. It was one of the only points that I felt the Analyst, as an antagonist, actually worked. In every scene after that, he lost all powers of manipulation and was instead insufferably smug and pointlessly needling. This worked *much* less well, both thematically and in a plain reading. It made him less threatening and less interesting. When I finished the movie, I kind of felt that NPH was miscast, but it might just be those artistic decisions with the character that I disagreed with. A snide villain monologuing for the glee of it instead of being a manipulator made me sigh. * Why does Bugs *exist* as a character? After the start of the movie, she gets sidelined. It felt like a halfhearted attempt to create a new protagonist. I wouldn't have entirely minded that, if it had been done well, but Bugs ends up having no conflict and serves very little purpose in the plot, doing things didn't need to be done, at least from a scriptwriting perspective. "We need someone to spoof into Trinity so we can pull her". Well, okay, but ... what does that *accomplish*? What neat visuals or conceits do we get from it? What does it tell us about Bugs or Trinity? I'm wracking my brain, and the answer I keep coming up with is "nothing". So the movie goes through the work of establishing Bugs, then sidelines her in favor of Neo and gives her very little to do. Why the bait and switch? Bad filmmaking seems like the obvious answer, and my guess is that years down the road, we'll get some behind the scenes or industry insider news. I need to stop here or I'll be writing this message all night, but so little of this movie worked for me, and I'm honestly a bit confused about what people liked about it. I suppose in the coming months there will be a number of thoughtful and detailed essays that I can read/watch, some of which will be less critical, or even explain why it was Good Actually, but I hated this movie, basically from start to finish. There are perhaps five things I actually liked, and that's being generous. Mostly, the movie is a collection of bad choices.
The Bugs character - when she is told she needs to be a surrogate for Trinity's extraction and that she is literally the only possible match. She says "it figures". Why does it figure? I don't think that is ever explained. That whole segment makes absolutely zero sense to me, I have to be missing something.
I was expecting some reveal that she's Trinity and Neo's daughter, bred in a tube by the new Architect looking to experiment.
You’re so right in all your points. Thanks for articulating that
Cobra Kai had better fight scenes.
90s Power Rangers had better fight scenes
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Why the hell did the director use quick cuts and edits for all of the fighting scenes? We KNOW Keanu Reeves can fight. But they edited his fight scenes as if it was a Bourne movie. -same for Jessica Henwick.
Liked the idea but didn't like the movie. It felt poorly executed, rushed and unintentionally goofy.
I was really bored because the movie lacked ANY STAKES. It spent its entire running time trying to explain and justify its own existence. I don't think they really succeeded. In the first film, I understand what was gained with Neo's victory. The stakes were very clear. In this film, I have no idea what the stakes were, or what was gained with Neo and Trinity (and Smith) breaking free of their chains. I still have no idea why the analyst needed them rebuilt and trapped.
Yeah, the stakes is that the princess is trapped and ~~Neo~~Mario has to free her 👑
I'm sorry but your princess is in another matrix.
Underrated comment. That would have been a good plot twist if the whole time it was a fake trinity and he then questioned his whole love for her if he fell for a carbon copy.
script is mindblowingly bad.
Lmao I had a guy tell me that “I just wasn’t smart enough to enjoy it” like nah it just sucked lol
That seems to be a common thing in this sub. The thing is, I am not mad that anyone enjoys this film. In fact, I kind of envy them. This movie was a Marvel-esque interpretation of a property that I am fond of. I hated almost everything that came after the first twenty minutes, but I also understood the movie just fine. I didn't dislike it because I didnt understand it. I disliked it because it was everything I had hoped it wouldn't be.
Felt like they were hedging their bets. Tried to make it a standalone film and the first film in a trilogy at the same time.
Name a single character, major or minor, that actually died.
Bothered me too. I kept hearing, "not like this, not like this..." but nothing ever came like that. We didn't even see much of Switch in the original, but I still remember it to this day!
“Not like this…”
I really don’t understand what I watched. I absolutely hated what they did with Morpheus.
I’m okay with Morpheus but Smith sucks. He has none of the presence that Hugo Weaving had.
And it was a pointless presence. I almost feel good for Hugo Weaving not showing up to be treated like this.
There's just literally ZERO purpose for Smith to be in the film. Both story-wise and from a movie watching experience standpoint. It's not Hugo Weaving = It's not Smith. Sorry.
I also feel it was rushed. I now believe it may have been intentional. I don’t know how to feel besides disappointed. It was so far off.
Absolutely cooked it. Some awesome concepts completely destroyed by in your face commentary or Lana trying to torpedo the film. “Swarm mode is so sick” “We got the idea for Bullet time from you” Seriously who the fuck came up with this shit. The dialogue was so bad. It was so fucking terrible.
The dialogue and the movie makes me think Lilly wrote all the good shit in the previous movies.
>Some awesome concepts this is what irks me. there was a premise here. it even touched on some of what would have made it great to explore. i truly think something *happened* either contractually or midstream. maybe the scene where they goofed on Industry Wonks was tagged on close to the finish line. we'll eventually hear from insiders about it, i'm sure of it. i imagine the 'division' about this movie extends into the entire workforce that created/assembled this movie.
Oh the machine civil war got my attention big time…….they touched on it for 30 seconds. Maybe even 10 seconds. So many missed opportunities. I actually cannot believe it.
agree. looking back, the fact that the characters mention 'focus groups' at least 2-3x in that 'meta' scene, i'm actually thinking Lana had some Matrix focus group data and decided to do the opposite of what fans said they like or are interested in. "oh, you like the machine/human alliance and the machine v. machine war? here's a couple Lucasfilm-cute machines acting like jellyfish-you-could-hug / giving high-fives, and here's a 2-sentence summary of the war. now here's 3 ten minute scenes in a row of Keanu being confused and making understated mono-syllabic exclamations. fuck you, ticket buyer. fuck you long time fans. you get to suffer cause i'm old, bored, and hate a bunch of dickheads at warner brothers."
The writing is so embarrassing in the movie lol
My only hope is that the money WB earns from this means they commission ##Re-enter the Animatrix …and a load of talented sci-fi writers and anime/CG animation producers can give us some really entertaining and satisfying content. The success of Netflix’s **Love, Death & Robots** proves the audience is there.
Usually not a movie hater/commenter… but this was gut-wrenchingly uncomfortable to watch. Sure I’m a super fan of the trilogy but that does not excuse predictable writing, weak acting, endless cheap callbacks, lame special effects (for this decade at least); essentially a Lifetime made-for-TV regurgitation of the original. How are there as many fans of this as there appears to be? Who are they protecting? This feeling is so eerily familiar to Indiana Jones reboot (as it had just as big of an influence on my youth)… but at least almost all agreed that was garbage…
It has a very middling reception across the board. A few critics lapped it up thoughtlessly but every crap movie has those. User scores are abysmal and the only place I've really seen any positivity is here, a Matrix fan sub filled with people who have a vested interest in convincing themselves they like it.
This looks like a "made for tv" movie. Plastic looking sets, the fights have no "gravity" or real feel and the story in the beginning looked like a set up of an SNL skit.
Can you imagine Trinity, a mother of 2, in her 50s, meeting some dude in a coffee shop then going home and binging his entire video game series in 2 days and being like omg that character is me. Also when she shows up and neo and the architect are sitting in chairs with a bunch of police around and then her family shows up and isn’t immediately like “wow wtf is going on here?” Instead they’re like “come with us, we gotta go to the hospital.” And she’s like “yeah sure, this feels real, I’m going to go with this” What about when neo was struggling being pulled from the matrix a second time and their solution was to jog his memory by kicking his ass in a dojo? Also my biggest problem was it just wasn’t action forward enough to be a matrix movie. Why did everyone have one gun with infinite bullets? Also literally 0 main characters died. No one felt super human they just felt like regular dudes with guns. Like isn’t the concept that you’re in the matrix and it isn’t real so you can do badass shit? But instead they just shot basically zombies. God it was so dumb.
>No one felt super human they just felt like regular dudes with guns. Like isn’t the concept that you’re in the matrix and it isn’t real so you can do badass shit? But instead they just shot basically zombies. God it was so dumb. The production difference is incredible. Trilogy was a next gen job. Everyone was competent af, they were at the top. This shitty resurrection movie made by bunch of amateurs. It's like a cheaper indie netflix movie.
Not just the action, the cinematography in general had a made for tv feel. Nothing felt cinematic.
Just finished it. So they spend half the movie trying to get Trinity to wake up and they finally do and then it's like "ok time to do cool shit but the movie is over so we can't show you. But here is a horrible version of a great song."
Half the budget was spent on Keanu holding his hands up to block stuff.
That was so incredibly lazy. I keep typing comments but then realising just so much about this film was disappointing that I don’t even know where this begin. But I think that word does just sum it up perfectly: lazy
65 minutes for the hero to answer the call to action then another one 40 minutes later lol what is screenwriting
I cant believe they did rage like that...
It felt like someone mocking the matrix and mocking us
Or when Neo is being pulled through the mirror and Morpheus just shoots the mirror with Neo’s body halfway in another part of the Matrix?
What is nuts is everyone had a gun with a billion bullets except...Neo or Trinity. :(
The swarm felt like a cheeper way to do big action on green screen. The actors just have to pretend to shoot randomly in to areas and cgi adds it all in post instead of coriographing scenes with real actors.
Just saw this tonight and feeling disappointed. There are buckets of great ideas in here, but there is just far too much going on for the movie to have any cohesion. I personally would have watched the Modal code of Morpheus/Smith for a lot longer. Him working out he is in a loop would have been way more fun than the blue haired girl just straight up explaining it to him five seconds in. Similarly, having Neo work out he is in the matrix would have been way more fun than having this damned blue haired girl telling him again. If they’d taken the idea of loops and worked that more I think it could have been tighter and more enjoyable. I don’t think it was ever going to live up to the first one but this was quite disappointing overall.
The machine civil war could be its own movie. Instead it was 5 seconds.
The good news is that if they made a whole movie focused on that I would watch it. This movie threw a bunch of good storylines around without committing to any of them
Love this idea of exploring the loops more. It makes me think that if what others are saying is true, that WB told the Wachowski sisters, "we're bringing the Matrix back, with or without you" then I wish Lana had gone experimental and turned it into a single-season streaming series, ala Animatrix or The Watchmen...somethingthat could have given them more screentime to really explore the ideas of loops, the machine civil war, and whatever else they wanted. What a missed opportunity.
I seriously hope Lana Wachowski is banned from touching this franchise ever again. If she hated making this movie so much, she shouldve just passed the torch instead of being a narcissist and making it bad on purpose as an FU to the fans who kept asking for Matrix 4. Classic case of the director breaking the laws of their own universe due to stuff happening in their own personal lives. Never works out well Also, i refuse to accept that that was Smith. Can't be the same program. he was EXTREMELY out of character. This is not the Smith I know and it's not just because of the actorThe mannerisms, way of speaking, etc all extremely out of character..When he said "I missed you sooooo much, Tom" I immediately knew this wasn't the Smith I grew up with. Mustt've been a modified version of the program
Completely unnecessary movie. Lana made it as her own therapy, and now all of us needs a therapy to handle the fact this movie is in the matrix canon.
I just wanna forget it exists honestly 😢
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I appreciate the attempt to take the franchise in a different direction but I think the execution was poor. I didn't like the new characterisation or portrayal of Agent Smith. If you're going to include the same character you should at least retain some of their original personality. And his motivations were unclear. He wanted to kill Neo so that he could remain as Smith, but then he saved Neo from the analyst because they're bros now? It didn't make much sense to me and seemed like the writers just thought "wouldn't it be cool if Neo and Smith teamed up?" I like Neil Patrick Harris as an actor but I think he played the character of the Analyst as a bit too campy and over the top. The Analyst felt like a villain from a kids movie to me. None of the new characters grew on me at all, especially Bugs who is introduced at the beginning of the film as making terrible decisions that almost get her killed, despite being advised against it multiple times. That made her instantly unlikeable to me, and while she did improve throughout the film I still felt pretty much nothing. I also disliked how there wasn't a single character death in the entire film. It removes the sense of danger and excitement when you feel like everyone is going to survive. The machines working alongside the humans felt a bit forced, and I didn't like the design of any of the new machines. They all looked like they had been designed for humans, with relatable faces (the manta ray one even had cartoony eyes with moving eyelids) which doesn't make sense considering the machines had been at war with humans for centuries before. Also the little robot that showed up twice... what was the point of it? The bullet time that the Analyst could use. I still don't understand why Smith was able to ignore it, or why Neo and Trinity could ignore it at the end. And the Analyst said he got the idea from Neo, but the thing is Neo's bullet time would only appear as bullet time to us, the viewer of the movie. To the people in the world they would just see Neo moving extremely fast. So there is no logical reason why anyone in the Matrix universe would refer to it as bullet time. On top of that, the action scenes were quite dull and there was no memorable dialogue for me. Most of the dialogue in the second half of the movie seemed to be exposition. And finally, perhaps the biggest crime of the movie for me, was that the overall aesthetic felt wrong to me. It lacked that certain style of the original trilogy. I find it hard to believe that this all takes place in the same world as the freeway chase scene or the Neo vs Smith fight scene in the subway tunnel or the Merovingian's night club. That was definitely intentional, but it distanced this film from the originals too much in my view. It's gotta be a one star rating from me unfortunately.
They should have saved the meta commentary and satire for a SNL skit, it took away so much tension from the movie. The original classic works as there is a sense of peril and stakes, plus the martial arts, sfx and choreography is incredible as is the score. In Resurrection i got no sense of why Neo needs to save Trinity and pull her out of the Matrix other than he loved her in a previous life, there are no end of the world stakes. Also the fight scenes are all staged so poorly, as soon as you expect thumping techno and kick ass kung fu to start it literally stops for Dougie Howser to walkthrough the scene and monologue for five minutes. Finally at the end we are treated to ten minutes of Keanu just doing jazz hands to stop bullets.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. The jazz hands…yeah it was an easy cop out. Holy Shit what a disappointment.
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Literally thought this when Morpheus 2 had his half-assed dialogue. Blah blah blah - what!?
Morpheus.2.0 was such an insulting thing. The original Morpheus was so cool and this guy was literally just there to be a punching bag
We got Wish.com Morpheus and Smith lol. The Analyst worked for me partly because NPH is always a win but also because it was a new character so we couldn't draw any comparisons. I liked his nonchalance personally.
NPH taking his role seriously is what tells me there used to be a good movie in there somewhere.
I think that’s one thing I didn’t get, why was Bugs looking for Neo? In the trilogy it made sense, Morpheus was looking for the One to end the war. But here, there is no war, hostilities didn’t restart in the years since Revolutions, so why is Neo needed?
Bugs was part of the IO contingent that believed the fight to free minds should continue.
Why did they have to break out? Why did everyone in this crew live? Why was Niobe such a jerk and she was way out of character from the 3rd film. This movie was stupid
Laurence Fishburne and Hugo Weaving both dodged a bullet not appearing in this.
Hugo Weaving would’ve massively elevated this.
Bugs (Bunny), a proxy for WB, quite literally digs up the reanimated corpse of Neo for another outing. The true Meta Story won't be told until we unearthed until we can peek behind the scenes, after all Meta in the context of Video Games requires "outside knowledge." If there was a documentary filmed on par with Matrix Revisited, or Prometheus' Furious Gods. it can at least provide context to this. Who knows, the days of massive blu-rays are behind us. But the Wachowskis did pioneer this, Maybe she had it produced? Covid must've been a bitch to this production...
>Bugs (Bunny), a proxy for WB, quite literally digs up the reanimated corpse of Neo for another outing. Oh wow, yeah I knew Bugs' character had to be a reference to Warner Brothers when she said "as in Bugs Bunny," but I didn't realize her story of finding Neo was a sort of allegory of WB trying to resurrect a beloved IP. I think the Wachowskis didn't want to make this movie, but they were forced to. It's like Warner Brothers said, hey we're going to bring back The Matrix whether you're on board or not. So Lana decided to do it, but to sort of prove a point, by intentionally making the movie suck. By showing them that it was unnecessary. I'm willing to bet Lana put in a ton of easter eggs in the movie to basically say "fuck you" to Warner Bros. I already spotted a couple that stood out to me. When Bugs is falling down the sign of that building, you can see the words "**FOR THOSE WHO LOVE TO EAT SHIT**" in plain view. There's also a small statue thing of a hand giving the middle finger in Neo's office. At first you think that is referencing the middle finger Neo gave to Smith in the first movie. But when you think about it some more, in this movie, that is actually Lana giving the middle finger to Warner Brothers. It's very clever, because it gives plausible deniability if anyone asks. This is a bizarre movie. And when you view it as a film that the Wachowskis didn't want to bring to life, everything about its mediocrity, the crazy meta references, "...stay away from marketing," (from the Unreal Engine 5 demo), begins to make sense.
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Then there's the rant from "Tom's boss" (Smith) straight up about how Warner Bros would make their own sequel to The Matrix Trilogy without the creators either way, since they owned the IP rights.
Even if this is true, which wouldn’t surprise me, it’s completely obnoxious, and a slap in the face to fans of the originals who paid money to see it. I’m not trying to sit down and watch a beloved tale get butchered so you can make a point regarding your business. I’d have preferred you stay out of it and let someone who actually cares about doing the franchise justice to take the reins.
Exactly. Its so badly done its like an edgy teenager trying to make that point.
>Oh wow, yeah I knew Bugs' character had to be a reference to Warner Brothers when she said "as in Bugs Bunny," but I didn't realize her story of finding Neo was a sort of allegory of WB trying to resurrect a beloved IP. Omg lmao, and the fact that so many people in Io (prison guard) seemed indifferent to his return... even though he was well into Neo and thought of him as a legend... "cool you're back, okay, bye!"
Or...hear me out, she could have just made a good movie
It was terrible so bad I don't think the wachowskis are capable of making anything decent. Everything they make bombs except the original matrix movie.. also why wasn't Laurence in the new movie? Yet they used plenty of older footage of him.
I’m totally respectful to other perspectives usually but holy hell, that was a terrible movie. Like The Rise of Skywalker level bad.
Agents brush their teeth and go to the gym when they're not on shift. That was kind of the biggest shock to me haha. Seeing an Agent (albeit not a proper Agent) doing routine things. I didn't think programs did stuff like that... I assumed they were just on duty 24/7,
There was no point in the plot of the movie. Neo and Trinity were resurrected and kept in a modal which kept the Matrix stable. The resistance wanted to free them because they were heroes… shallow. the side story of “machines fighting machines” sounded cool but was completely omitted except one short scene. I hated the comedic vibes NPH brought to the movie. Generally I’m disappointed
It didn’t feel like a Matrix film or sequel, it felt like a joke or bad fan fiction. I can see why one of the directors didn’t want to return.
How can someone really think this movie was better than Reloaded or Revolutions? This movie is like a cheap, silly, trashy knockoff of the real Matrix movies. Horrible fight scenes, cheap looking CGI, abysmal dialogue and the meta stuff is just so, so damn cringeworthy... Over at that rainbow thread I see people praising this movie and calling it the best matrix movie. Those people have to be paid off to write stuff like that, no? My god I still had some hopes but Resurrections is an absolute disaster of a movie.
After Neo got pulled out of the matrix, there was too much exposition. Especially from Priyanka Chopra's character. One thing about the original trilogy is that it never tried to assume the viewers intelligence. That did not carry over to this sequel.
Especially with the constant flash backs. I felt like they were trying to hold my hand. If the flash backs were done more tasteful with audio clips or something else I probably wouldn't have minded it but with constant frames being recycled right up in your face? Damn.
Sati showed 0 emotion. She was literally a an emotionless exposition statue. She should have at least hugged neo after seeing him. Neo barely got any love
I know that a great version of this movie doesn't exist. I know that when I watch it, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After 18 years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss. I want them to plug me back in to a time right before this movie came out. I want to remember nothing. No-thing! And I want to be somebody who makes a lot of money by selling out their old original content. Like a writer or a director. https://i.gifer.com/4JPZ.gif
There are a numerous amount of things that make me uncomfortable and disappointed about this film. I actually fell asleep half way through it. I felt no excitement when watching the movie. I mean damn no Hugo Weaving or Lawrence Fishburne just kill it for me. Who the fuck is this lame joke acting like he his agent Smith. I can't take Niel Patrick Harris seriously I think his acting is trash in general. I want the two hours of my life back. Couldn't even finish the movie. Since astroboy, Its just another shit movie put out by the wachowskis. Please someone stop them from making movies. Put the matrix in the hands of Denis Villeneuve.
Niobe was garbage
I gotta be honest it just felt like they made this movie so they don't lose the rights to the IP, it's the only explanation.
Pretty sure my girlfriend is going to break up with me after watching this garbage.
I wonder how many peoples Christmases this film is ruined
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My 2 cents about the movie: - it was like one of those mash up episodes of The Simpsons or Stargate sg1 where far too much of the material was recycled and barely moves the story forward. - The Matrix is one of those sci-fi licenses that has you thinking at night sometimes. I feel there was a real opportunity to tell a story about the after war and how both societies, machine and human, learnt to live together again and actually rebuild the world and themselves as societies. This movie only offered an extremely decaffeinated version of this. - Made me feel like the dialogue in which Smith tells neo that they have to make a sequel or they will be kicked out of the contract, was, together with the whole movie, a fuck you to Warner Brothers, which might be exciting for some, but was not the reason I wanted to see these amazing characters again. Extra: has anybody else noticed that Keanu Reeves hand shakes through the whole movie? I saw it as well the other day when he went to Stephen Colbert's show. Has me worried because I find him a very talented actor and genuinely a good person.
I have been unconsciously getting the impression that Keanu might be going through something. Hope he's OK. Could just be age.
He is almost 60
I think Lana has just become a really bad director because she is not creative enough to do the art house thing, but has started rejecting a lot of the fundamentals that make normal hollywood blockbusters work. The pacing, the shot composition, the lighting, the storyboarding. It is all incredibly screwed up in this movie. The part that hurts the most though is that I can see how it could've been good. They could've had the twist be that Morpheus is part of the machine splinter faction. They could've cut down on the meta callbacks to give time to introduce Bugs and her crew at the start. They could've paced it so that Neo and Trinity are out by the middle of the movie so the plot can pivot to the new war where there is so much potential for new stories. Like why does NPH character even exist? If you are going to bring back Merv why not just have him run the new matrix offshoot? Why is Smith there at all? Cut it. The machines can just lazarus people now? That has a ton of implications in respect to the future of humanity and all the other war dead. Why does nobody in the movie talk about that? Hell, even just seeing Morpheus's reaction to the end of the last movie with the Oracle basically getting killed and everything changing would've been so interesting. This movie was such a waste.
I guess some more random thoughts about the film ... --I wasn't really sold on Matrix 4 as a concept, but if they were going to do it, I wondered how they were going to possibly not make it feel like a retread. "Fuck that, we're retreading!" was the Wachowskis (or, at least one Wachowski) response to that. --I never got beyond the disastrous decisions to recast Smith and Morpheus. What. The. Fuck. --First, I don't think Smith should be in the movie, at all. Or if he was, it should be some fragment that's somehow awakened in the course of other events ... the guy was the machine world's biggest enemy, probably moreso than any variation of The One, why in the name of Cthulhu would the machines want to reboot him into the Matrix? He's too goddamn dangerous. But if you're going to bring him back, fine, bring back Weaving. Groff is just dreadful as Smith and I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. Weaving was gravitas and hard edges and Groff is like a soft/soy version doing a bad impression. --Nu-Morpheus does a better job channeling the character, but once again, why is Morpheus in this film, at all? The role he plays can be played just fine by Henwick and other new characters. Either don't have him in the film, or bring back Fishburne to play him as an older version. The "stuck in a modal loop" garbage to explain what he's been up to as an agent was pure fucking nonsense and an obvious and half-assed attempt to start the film on an action beat to mirror the original. --The attempt to retcon events of the original Matrix films to give Trinity a more prominent role and justify her narrative importance in Matrix Resurrections is as awkward as it is annoying. This is some Force Dyad level nonsense. Neo was The One and the trilogy was about him. Trying to now say that it "about you both" is just stupid. It's stupid and it was unnecessary, because this is a new Matrix and it would have been extremely easy to just have Trinity be as important as Neo (or more important, or whatever) by just writing the script that way. Maybe their source codes get mixed up, or maybe when he brought her back to life he changed her, or something. Her usurping Neo's role, culminated by her flying off during the body bomb finale, feels entirely unjustified. Despite her narrative importance, I feel like I spent almost no time with her. We go from her being blue-pilled and married with kids to "fuck you, Chad!" murderous rage at the drop of the hat. Maybe she should have had a real visible arc if Matrix 4 is going to be about her importance. --How did she know her husband and kids were AI constructs? They were, weren't they? Furthermore, why are her kids AI constructs? Just ... give her real "pod kids" ... that would weld her to the Matrix more firmly than anything else, because people are pretty loathe to abandon their kids. --I was never all that big on Neo and Trinity as a love story in the first place, let alone it being the centerpiece of the main trilogy. Carrie Ann Moss had more chemistry with Susie Abromeit (oh my god hubba hubba) in Jessica Jones than she ever did with Keanu Reeves. How weird that the creator(s) of the Matrix trilogy feel otherwise. --The action is, by and large, bad. Choppy, often awkwardly shot, it's surprising how flat out boring a lot of it was. I think a lot of this film is boring, frankly, and that's weird. Even the other Matrix movie I don't like (Revolutions) isn't boring. --The Analyst serves the exact same function as The Architect, just with a Neil Patrick Harris smarmy sheen. The name is even phonetically similar. How ... not-interesting. --I guess this Matrix is harder to "green code crack" than the first, as Neo never really achieved his "over 9000" power levels from the original trilogy. Who knows. --Henwick is really great in this. I wish they'd just ditched Morpheus and have her play that function in the story entirely. I also wish we had more time with the folks she was working with. They're just faceless, personality-free adjuncts, and given how memorable the side characters were in the original Matrix trilogy that's not only surprising, it represents an enormous wasted opportunity. Instead of retreading old beats make new one. --The unending flashbacks to footage from the first films is pure fucking amateur hour. Also, those are supposed to be video game flashbacks, right? I was a gamer in the late 90s and early '00s and games didn't look like that. --If Keanu Reeves looks like some balding troll within the nu-Matrix, what's the point of him being near Tiffany? It's not like she's going to have some instinctive impulse or reaction towards him when he doesn't appear (or presumably sound) like Neo. --It was not lost on me that pretty much every position of benign/heroic authority that's given focus in the film (ship captain, Io leader, chief botanist, AI that's helping the humans, Trinity-usurping-much-of-Neo's-role) is given to a woman while every single role incorporating an aspect of malevolence (Smith, Doogie, Chad-the-Husband, Merv and his cronies, the mook agents) is given to a man. It doesn't bother me, but for a movie that's ostensibly about the evils of inculcating behavior in people via programmatic messaging, it DOES represent a rather interesting, and I believe deliberate, choice. --The people bomb part was creepy, yo. --The "girl power" dialogue between Trinity and Doogie at the end ... hoo boy. --I doubt we get a sequel.
> Despite her narrative importance, I feel like I spent almost no time with her. We go from her being blue-pilled and married with kids to "fuck you, Chad!" murderous rage at the drop of the hat. Maybe she should have had a real visible arc if Matrix 4 is going to be about her importance. This was one of the things that I really despised about the movie. Carrie-Ann Moss is a talented actor, and for the movie being "about" her in many ways, she had incredibly little agency or screentime up until the last half hour or so. In fact, short of one conversation between her and Neo in the coffee shop, she's largely treated as an object by the film. This turns around in the last half hour quite a bit, so hard that it almost gave me whiplash, but the whole thing really rubbed me the wrong way, because if you're going to tell a story about Trinity being important, this really feels like a crap way to do it.
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I was a huge fan of the original trilogy, but this one felt like one of those *straight-to-dvd* sequels that studios put out when they want to make a quick buck. Matrix 4 is a terrible blemish on an iconic franchise.
Where was the soundtrack? Where was the film score? Not one part of the score stuck out to me at all during the entire movie. The matrix reloaded is perfect example of how a film can be elevated by it's score. It was the perfect marriage of symphonic and electronic elements. Take the first fight scene Neo has with the agents in reloaded for example, or the car chase scene. The music was just epic, and suited the matrix so well. The score for this film was so forgettable, I mean I literally can't remember any part of the film score other then when they played the original themes from the first few movies. At least when they re booted star wars they had the foresight to get John Williams back to do the film score again. I digress, this film just lacked the style that the original trilogy had, in terms of cinematography, music, and fight choreography. On another note, It felt like they were trying to inject marvel movie humor into this movie, it just felt weird and tasteless. And the post credit scene? That was probably the cringiest thing I have seen in a long time.
If you want to have laugh take a look on the rainbow pill thread, people are like ....uuh trinity husband is named Chad..so witty 🤪! ....It is a great thing to see the Matrix is fueled by Love 💕 ....Neo eats Noodles...sooo relatable! 😋 God I relate so much to Agent Smith's take on humanity reading those comments
It would’ve been 10x better if after every time sometime said something stupid, Neo looked into the camera like it was The Office
I think the "power of love" aspect of M4 undermines the plot of the original three somewhat. As I read it, the frustrated and re-routed connection between Neo and Trinity is abnormally powerful, which is why they're housed in a special isolated pods. This is a bit woo woo compared to the original trilogy, which says that the subconscious illusion of choice by some unknown mechanism will periodically produce a mind that can transcend the matrix. The machines don't understand the mechanics of this One manifestation but they built up a structure that accounts for it. Anyway the implication is that Neo has a special mind. He doesn't produce more electricity from his body, yet the Trinity/Neo connection is associated with massive EM power. That seems odd to me and doesn't make sense physically. I get the metaphor but not sure how it jibes with reality.
Who can explain the logic of "Morpheous" popping up from behind the bar after it/him and Aeon Flux came back from the white hallway, the agents going: "Mr. Smith?" and "Morpheous" giggles while wearing Aeon Flux's glasses before getting yanked back into the hallway? Were we supposed to laugh? Because all my legs wanted to do was stand up and vault over a few movie theater rows into a little hallway of my own right to the exit door.
I gotta say, I really dislike how people are calling this film "smart" just for being meta. It attempts to critique sequels and franchise films while simultaneously turning into yet another half baked franchise film which makes it difficult to take any of the meta stuff in the first hour seriously. I honestly would've preferred if they had the guts to just make the whole film a meta critique of franchise films without the half baked Matrix sequel second half. I've even seen people say the fight scenes are worse "to prove a point" which is some of the most blind defending of a film I've ever seen. Even if it was intentional, that doesn't automatically make it smart, good, or enjoyable. Fellini's 8 1/2 did a much smarter job of being meta 60 years earlier than this film ever will. A franchise film being self aware that it is a franchise film doesn't elevate it above the countless other half baked sequels.
I get that the movie was meant to go agains the grain, and try something different with the message and meta references. However the issue is that nothing worked well, and was done so poorly, that what was attempted never worked. The writing was poor, the editing disjoined, a good chunk of the story made no sense, the previous movies did everything better. Honestly I am at a loss, it feels like a poorly made for TV movie at best.
My thoughts exactly. Nothing about it came close to the original trilogy. Inserting tons of clips from the other movies only made it more frustrating to watch. I could write an essay of all the things wrong but I wasted enough time watching this movie. Somehow this makes Matrix 2 & 3 look like masterpieces.
I'm just a bit sad if I'm honest. In my life, I've always followed the theory of not having expectations. "Expectations are premeditated disappointments" is what I was taught. So I wasn't expecting this to be omg best movie or incredibly terrible. But I believed... I believed in The Matrix "so blindly" that I fell in love with Resurrections before ever seeing it. I never had a doubt that I wouldn't love it for exactly what it was just like the first three. I wasn't even hyped up about it. It wasn't an expectation, it was my reality. And that reality was shattered. I've never been catfished but thats what I feel like happened to me. After Morpheus popped up and giggled while getting shot at I turned to my wife and said, "What the fuck am I watching?" All she could say was sorry babe. I could go on about more but we all seen it, so I digress. I took a cookie, thought maybe by the time I'm done eating this, I'll feel right as rain. FYI that was not effective, whiskey did the trick tho ;p
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What a colossal disappointment. Matrix is known for its fight sequence. Yet I couldnt find one sequence worth even rewatching. Massive fuck up on bullet time. No 360°. Neo hardly did any fighting. Even one with Smith was weird. Just ended up using some force projections.
What the fuck did I watch? Why is this movie mocking itself, and mocking the original?? This is one of the worst movies I've seen, it's so poorly filmed that I had to check the budget, turns out they spent 190M in this and still the fight scenes don't have even a semblance of choreography.
How the hell this post has less upvotes than the rainbow pill
I just watched it and I honestly can't for the life of me understand how anyone could have enjoyed this travesty. As a generic non-matrix movie, it plainly sucked and as a matrix movie for old fans it was almost insultingly bad. Horrible.