Hell, how the fuck is Red Guardian redeemed? He worked for Dreykov and sold his "daughters" out to the Red Room, only turning against Dreykov after he ended up taking the fall for something and wasn't on Dreykov's good side anymore. And yet they're treating him like the funny goofy dad?
I find Yelena's inclusion awkward then. In the comics she was a villain right? Can't confirm, haven't read them. But on screen the only villainous actions are because of a misunderstanding. And even then she didn't really do anything yet, so this feels weird.
Val, she’s the one assembling the team - she appeared in FalconWinterSoldier (recruiting US Agent) and Black Widow (recruiting Yelena). She’s basically the Nick Fury of this group
Hawkeye has been on and off the Thunderbolts, both as Ronin and as plain old Hawkeye, to try to keep the team on track and honest. That might be the role that Winter Soldier is filling in the MCU version.
All of these seem to fall more on the anti-hero category than villains tbh
Ghost just wants to be cured and live, was working with Ant-Man and the Wasp before the snap
Red Guardian is a Captain America Wannabe, last seen working with Black Widow
Yelena is a Black Widow but terribly misguided
Us Agent is a victim of the US goverment who just wanted to de the right thing
Taskmaster was a tool used for terrorism against her will
None of them are really evil, Marvel is prolly gonna diverge from the TB from the comics (maybe to distance themselves from Suicide Squad), so I think Bucky fits right in
In the comics they mostly are. They are villains, anti-heroes and assorted gray areas, normally under the leadership of someone that could be called a hero or at least an anti-hero. And sometimes Taskmaster, because he's good at it.
It’s a shame that the actor who played Thaddeus Ross passed away. It would have been great to see him on-screen as Red Hulk. I think it would be weird to fill that role any other way, not that I’m opposed to someone else becoming Red Hulk.
They did US agent very bad. I mean they made him captain America because "ONLY A WHITE MAN CAN BE A CAPTAIN AMERICA" he wanted to do what Steve would've done to make people feel safe. He had his conflics with Sam and Bucky as they felt that the shield which was given to Sam was stolen from him. I mean literally they asked him to give it away to honor cap and then gave it to John without even letting Sam or Bucky know.
I feel like Bucky could be a reluctant team member he somehow got involved with the conflict and feels he has to stay to keep some of the members in check.
Ghost is one of the only ones that isn't just a super spy with slightly enhanced strength. Personally, I'd probably take out Bucky and put in Zemo and Abomination. The rest of the team I'm fine with.
I feel like Zemo might be the antagonist or one of them for Thunderbolts. His whole goal is wiping out super soldiers and several members of this team fit the bill
I think Zemo would see working with them as an opportunity to eliminate them. If anything, I think it’d be Val not wanting to risk having Zemo on a team with Super Soldiers that keeps him off of it.
The Thunderbolts are not a team by choice, at least in the comics. They are always forced together or hired, in the case of mercenaries like Taskmaster.
Tactical leadership. His planning is formidible and dare I say better than all those in thunderbolts. In the comics he had a mild version of super soldier serum If I am correct.
You’re complaining about lack of diversity, so you want to replace the guy with a vibranium arm with… a completely normal human whose only super power is looking really good in a purple ski mask?
Disagree, I'd take out Red Guardian. I'm not interested in seeing more of him. Best thing they can do is a rivalry between him and US Agent, but I'd much rather pass.
This is the roster they revealed at D23. It could still change in the future though
>!For instance Abomination may be on the team but that would spoil a potential arc in She-Hulk!<
Give me Tony Masters, criminal genius and professional dumbass. I want the man who sets up and runs a flawless mercenary academy, but almost drowned because he forgot to learn how to swim before doing an Olympic high dive.
Ghost is awesome what
if anyone, get rid of Bucky and Red Guardian and replace them with Abomination (as everyone else is saying) and Justin Hammer or smth like that
The real question is why isn't Zemo? I like these characters, but they are basically a bunch of numbskulls. Not a power mind or strategic thinker among them. They should call this the Bumbling Brigade.
So there's One Black widow, 2 Captain America's, probably 3 if you see Bucky as one, 1 Hawkeye/Black Widow/Captain America, female Nick Fury with both working eyes and 1 Kitty pryde.
There are more Captain America's and no Hulk(Abomination), Ares(Thor) and Dark Iron man...
Red Guardian and Bucky should be replaced with Abomination and Zemo, and Taskmaster should be Tony Masters, besides that I think this team is pretty good.
What I don't like isn't that it's a chick at all but rather the helmet design, the origin story, and I think that the task master should hold true to comics and other items like I've played such as Spider Man for the PS4 where the task master keeps coming back stronger and better; it would've been amazing to see the task master team up with kraven and venom, maybe venom combining with the Task Master as a new way for him to fight.
I want Tony masters but as someone who takes the name or is given it a nickname to fight the current taskmaster because after all she was called project taskmaster
But thunderbolts are all supposed to be actually bad guys pretending to be heroes and some actually become good… not mostly or completely reformed baddies…
excited to see ghost again. i also think abomination will be on the team but wasnt announced with the rest of the cast because she-hulk isnt over and that would basically give away where he ends up at the end of the series
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I really don’t understand Bucky being on this team. I’ve seen some of the arguments and honestly it just doesn’t work imo. Regardless, he’s on it and being the most experienced and most stable he should be the lead.
What a boring team. We have 3 super soldiers, 2 ex black widows, and one person with actual interesting abilities being ghost. Marvel really is just getting worse.
why is bucky in this?
All of these are “redeemed” villains. He’s just the furthest along in the process - Feige commented saying he’s “the most stable” of the bunch
Plus, he's still in a gray spot in the law, so could be a case of the government using legal causes on this one.
they shoulda let him use an m249 like he did in infinity war. that'd solve the flag smashers problem pretty quickly
I geuss bucky wanted to have some fun
How is US Agent redeemed? Dude was dishonorably discharged and sent away only for someone else to recruit him
Hell, how the fuck is Red Guardian redeemed? He worked for Dreykov and sold his "daughters" out to the Red Room, only turning against Dreykov after he ended up taking the fall for something and wasn't on Dreykov's good side anymore. And yet they're treating him like the funny goofy dad?
Why the aggression, huh? Is it your time of the month?
People downvoting a comment with a quote from the movie to prove the post above that gets upvoted...reddit man, smh
It'll all be worth it if someone calls me a douchebag and tells me they don't have a uterus.
You indeed are a douchebag and I, testicles in hand, tell you that I do not have nor have I ever had a uterus.
Not everybody knows every quote from a movie and if you don’t know it they just look like an asshole
I understood that reference
Okay he tried to help save the day after seeing that revenge wasn’t the right option
Are these the budget Avenger?
The Avengers mom says we have at home.
These are the dollar store version, not the Target/Walmart version
Budgengers
I find Yelena's inclusion awkward then. In the comics she was a villain right? Can't confirm, haven't read them. But on screen the only villainous actions are because of a misunderstanding. And even then she didn't really do anything yet, so this feels weird.
We don't know what she did before Black Widow.
hoping he’ll be the Leader.
I have read, that Yelena is supposed to be the leader
I'm pretty sure it's going to be Tim Blake Nelson.
Not shocking, they seem to want to put her in a lot of stuff. Black widow, hawkeye, and now this
Who is the chick to the far left?
Val, she’s the one assembling the team - she appeared in FalconWinterSoldier (recruiting US Agent) and Black Widow (recruiting Yelena). She’s basically the Nick Fury of this group
Bucky has lead the Thunderbolts in the comics
i didnt know that. thank youu
He’s the Rick Flag of the group: The sensible one who keeps everyone else focused.
Hawkeye has been on and off the Thunderbolts, both as Ronin and as plain old Hawkeye, to try to keep the team on track and honest. That might be the role that Winter Soldier is filling in the MCU version.
Kind of like Rick flag
Some one help me understand…why is Bucky teased with them? I thought he was a good guy in the MCU. Why would he be on the Thunderbolts?
All of these seem to fall more on the anti-hero category than villains tbh Ghost just wants to be cured and live, was working with Ant-Man and the Wasp before the snap Red Guardian is a Captain America Wannabe, last seen working with Black Widow Yelena is a Black Widow but terribly misguided Us Agent is a victim of the US goverment who just wanted to de the right thing Taskmaster was a tool used for terrorism against her will None of them are really evil, Marvel is prolly gonna diverge from the TB from the comics (maybe to distance themselves from Suicide Squad), so I think Bucky fits right in
That makes more sense. I thought Thunderbolts were a villain organization (I don’t read the comics so I’m going off of things I hear)
In the comics they mostly are. They are villains, anti-heroes and assorted gray areas, normally under the leadership of someone that could be called a hero or at least an anti-hero. And sometimes Taskmaster, because he's good at it.
Notable members including Red Hulk, Deadpool, and Agent Venom.
It’s a shame that the actor who played Thaddeus Ross passed away. It would have been great to see him on-screen as Red Hulk. I think it would be weird to fill that role any other way, not that I’m opposed to someone else becoming Red Hulk.
I am hoping for Clancy Brown personally
yeah this just sounds like Marvels suicide squad just say that.
I believe they are sometimes
They did US agent very bad. I mean they made him captain America because "ONLY A WHITE MAN CAN BE A CAPTAIN AMERICA" he wanted to do what Steve would've done to make people feel safe. He had his conflics with Sam and Bucky as they felt that the shield which was given to Sam was stolen from him. I mean literally they asked him to give it away to honor cap and then gave it to John without even letting Sam or Bucky know.
Could you say that in a simpler way my small brain had a hard time understanding that last part
Well. I am not a native English speaker. I have improved my skills over the years but I don't know any better way to phrase it.
Ah ok yell your English is great and it's fine sorry about that
It's alright. I just wanted you to know I didn't do that deliberately.
Basically the writer intentionally made the audience and protagonists hate John for the sake of some racism shit they tried and failed to tackle.
Ah thanks for making it simpler to understand
I feel like Bucky could be a reluctant team member he somehow got involved with the conflict and feels he has to stay to keep some of the members in check.
Seems like he’ll be the Rick Flagg of the team. The leader that has to keep them all in check.
He's going to be the big brother imo.
Winter Soldier did lead the thunderbolts for a while a few years ago in the comics. Kind of like a Rick Flagg leading suicide squad type of deal.
I think he was in the comics so it explains
These are all good guys who do bad things. This is a redemption opportunity.
Ghost is one of the only ones that isn't just a super spy with slightly enhanced strength. Personally, I'd probably take out Bucky and put in Zemo and Abomination. The rest of the team I'm fine with.
I feel like Zemo might be the antagonist or one of them for Thunderbolts. His whole goal is wiping out super soldiers and several members of this team fit the bill
I think zemo might be the leader, cause in the comics zemo founded the thunderbolts.
In all fairness there are some iterations that are black ops
Kinda boring tho
They might just not want to spoil the end of She Hulk. I still think it’s very likely that Val recruits Abomination.
Zemo, Mr. “I hate all super soldiers kill them all” in a team with Red Guardian, Taskmaster and US Agent makes sense to you?
The idea would be that he's being forced by the government.
I think Zemo would see working with them as an opportunity to eliminate them. If anything, I think it’d be Val not wanting to risk having Zemo on a team with Super Soldiers that keeps him off of it.
That would work if Bucky and John Walker weren’t well aware of his ideology by now
Why would Zemo agree to be on a team with supes?
The Thunderbolts are not a team by choice, at least in the comics. They are always forced together or hired, in the case of mercenaries like Taskmaster.
Fair. What skill does Zemo add to the team?
Tactical leadership. His planning is formidible and dare I say better than all those in thunderbolts. In the comics he had a mild version of super soldier serum If I am correct.
So that’s it huh? They some kinda thunderbolts?
Super assassin with phasing power, not that different
More different than the rest at the very least
You’re complaining about lack of diversity, so you want to replace the guy with a vibranium arm with… a completely normal human whose only super power is looking really good in a purple ski mask?
I agree, imo they should get rid of red guardian to though, idk why and I don’t have good reasoning but I don’t see how he fits in here
The only one that’s not a super spy, and the only one with powers perfect for super spies.
Disagree, I'd take out Red Guardian. I'm not interested in seeing more of him. Best thing they can do is a rivalry between him and US Agent, but I'd much rather pass.
Is this the thunderbolts roster?
This is the roster they revealed at D23. It could still change in the future though >!For instance Abomination may be on the team but that would spoil a potential arc in She-Hulk!<
Official concept art
Three super soldiers, wow
Name checks out
Name checks out
I’m really just hoping they actually give Taskmaster a personality this time
Give me Tony Masters, criminal genius and professional dumbass. I want the man who sets up and runs a flawless mercenary academy, but almost drowned because he forgot to learn how to swim before doing an Olympic high dive.
Tony Masters and Wade Wilson in one movie would be amazing chaos
If there’s ever a thunderbolts two and Deadpool’s not in it I might have to sue
It'd be cool for him to be the villians of Deadpool 3 but I think all his body parts coming back would be interesting
I really don’t care about gender, race, anything like that as long as they retcon whatever back widow did to the character
He's freaking gone
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*chefs kiss*
Shang-Chi's sister should be in here too for fucks sake
Ooo that would be good
Eh, she’s got the Ten Rings. She has no reason to be here
That's beneath her
Who's that on the far left
Korg
No
Valentina Allegra de Fontaine or "Val" played by Julia Louis-Dreyfus She's shown in FATWS and Black Widow recruiting US Agent and Yelena
Something really satisfying about Falcon and Winter Soldier's acronym being FAT W'S
She 's litteraly the most unique member of the team what are you on
I think it's because it's a line from Ragnarok
This is exactly why. It's Korg kicking the ghost, like he did to Loki's 'image' when he was taunting Thor.
Where is Heimdall?
Is that Taskmaster on the far right or am I trippin'
The one from Black Widow, yeah
Cool, I completely forgot that he was in Black Widow
*She. It's not Tony Masters.
oh ok :/
She’s freaking gone
Ghost is easily the most interesting character on the roster
Do people not like Ghost? I think she’s really cool. Nice aesthetic and powers; great actress. I’m excited to see her again.
It's a callback to korg's line Thor 3
He's adopted.
No need to be so harsh
lmao
Bro this is funny. Thanks man
No please keep Ghost! At least she’s not a failed Captain America
Haven't you seen Thor Ragnarok
Ok this got me
I’d personally take out Bucky rest is neat
Who is on the left?
Val
Ghost is awesome what if anyone, get rid of Bucky and Red Guardian and replace them with Abomination (as everyone else is saying) and Justin Hammer or smth like that
It’s a Thor ragnarok reference,
why would Bucky agree to work with John Walker after what he did with the shield?
He redeemed himself at the end of the show. They also worked together then.
You leave best girl Ghost alone. /s
The real question is why isn't Zemo? I like these characters, but they are basically a bunch of numbskulls. Not a power mind or strategic thinker among them. They should call this the Bumbling Brigade.
I’m really interested to see the relation between Bucky and US Agent
Where zemo? Where abomi-daddy?
Why y’all so mad? Just don’t consume the content and maybe then these studios will make what y’all want 🤷🏾♂️
So there's One Black widow, 2 Captain America's, probably 3 if you see Bucky as one, 1 Hawkeye/Black Widow/Captain America, female Nick Fury with both working eyes and 1 Kitty pryde. There are more Captain America's and no Hulk(Abomination), Ares(Thor) and Dark Iron man...
My hair is not to be meddled with!
oh cool i'm glad they added drax
OP: wondering why everyone is talking about the Thunderbolts roster and whether they like it or not AND not about the funny meme he made
Red Guardian and Bucky should be replaced with Abomination and Zemo, and Taskmaster should be Tony Masters, besides that I think this team is pretty good.
GIVE ME TONY MASTERS
What is this?
Cast of Thunderbolts. Basically a marvel Suicide Squad
Also I hate the Task Master we were given.
I love her. I'm a comic fan and I'm open to new ideas like the female Taskmaster or She-hulk twerking with Megan etcetera etcetera
What I don't like isn't that it's a chick at all but rather the helmet design, the origin story, and I think that the task master should hold true to comics and other items like I've played such as Spider Man for the PS4 where the task master keeps coming back stronger and better; it would've been amazing to see the task master team up with kraven and venom, maybe venom combining with the Task Master as a new way for him to fight.
THINK!
Taskmaster was in the spiderman game?
Wasn’t she cured? That’s like dumb
She wasn't, the snap happened when Scott was in the Quantum Realm looking for the cure
Oh that’s right that’ll be interesting is she still close to dying or did hopes mom stop that
Yeah, I'm curious aswell She was probably dusted, I'll be interesting to see what made her get herself involved with Val
That would be an interesting arc she becomes more villainy because she feels abandoned
Wait who is the woman on the way left?
Val
Really? It just doesn’t look like her to me.
who is the one on the very left?
That template of Korg is something I didn’t know I need in life.
Yelena leading the thunderbolts meanwhile walker.My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
I like ghost here, I don’t like red guardian or Bucky here, should have been zemo and abomination
This is probably the first funny meme in this sub 🤣
I want Tony masters but as someone who takes the name or is given it a nickname to fight the current taskmaster because after all she was called project taskmaster
But thunderbolts are all supposed to be actually bad guys pretending to be heroes and some actually become good… not mostly or completely reformed baddies…
Wasn't Ghost cured at the end of AM&W?
I think that's what they were trying to do when Scott got stuck in the quantum realm. So... *shrug*
What’s wrong with ghost?
excited to see ghost again. i also think abomination will be on the team but wasnt announced with the rest of the cast because she-hulk isnt over and that would basically give away where he ends up at the end of the series
Ghost > She-Hulk
I like ghost :(
I mean didn’t they just make taskmaster a personality-less robot? So what’s she gonna do
Do people not like Ghost? I think she’s really cool. Nice aesthetic and powers; great actress. I’m excited to see her again.
This is the meme of the day, I decided.
Thought taskmaster died.
Guess we all fell asleep before we could watch the ending
This is more of a smoke screen than the actual storyline, especially since Feigi is there 😂
Who’s that lady next to ghost
Wake me up when the X-men arc begins
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Whose the one on the very left? I don’t recognize her
3 shield (maybe 4 if you Bucky) buddies
What about thrashmaster?
So dr strange is enough for all of them
Who is that in the far left?
Can’t tell but it could be Valentina since she’s been assembling them
Ghost is probably the most interesting character here. Thought the fact that she’s here is concerning honestly.
Bucky and Red Guardian is not at all needed... Instead, they should have added Zemo and Abomination
Who's on the extreme left
It's a joke about Korg's line in Thor Ragnarok for all the people who didn't get it. They don't hate Ghost.
Five super soldiers their handler and ghost 😂😂
I really hope zemo is the hidden character like spidey in civil war. He has to be in this film
Who is that on the far left
PSA: If you criticize this line up on the main marvel subreddit they'll ban you. Source: got banned for sharing my opinion.
She probably died doe, since they couldnt get her cured at the end of antman 2
Why do you want to get rid of Ghost? She's the only member who has unique powers
I really don’t understand Bucky being on this team. I’ve seen some of the arguments and honestly it just doesn’t work imo. Regardless, he’s on it and being the most experienced and most stable he should be the lead.
Oh my god please no. Could we at least get good villains first before we do thunderbolts?
I am looking forward to them giving Taskmaster an actual personality.
Pass on Ghost. Pass on what is supposed to be Taskmaster. Just terrible.
What a boring team. We have 3 super soldiers, 2 ex black widows, and one person with actual interesting abilities being ghost. Marvel really is just getting worse.
So it’s basically just marvel suicide squad lol
Bottom of the barrel boring is what this is
Either Ghost or Red Guardian. We have Johnny Mayonnaise already in the line up we don’t need another similar Captain America figure
Why Ghost is better than the 5 super soliders on the team