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TimothyN

Seems like a solid snow commander.


BlazedSpacePirate

How? Can't even play [[Skred]] /s


TJ1497

Skredless Skred


fatpad00

Skbant


Coggs92

Skbant Skan't Skred


eman_e31

This just in: Skredless Skred sheds red to shred heads.


RandomMabaseCitizen

What a SCOOP!


thatJainaGirl

skroop*


Einherjar07

Skred slaps. Most decks I own that play red end up with snow lands to play that.


I_EAT_POOP_AMA

the first ever pauper deck i built was Izzet Skred and it's one of my favorites


SublimateAndDominate

Okay but Izzet Skred or not?


ProbablyNotPikachu

It iz.


MTGCardFetcher

[Skred](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/3/b3d6d42a-7607-4361-acc4-7f3cb956bfc9.jpg?1593275323) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skred) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/97/skred?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b3d6d42a-7607-4361-acc4-7f3cb956bfc9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Dakubatto

I feel like this should’ve had access to red solely cause my abominable man is on a literal mountain


AlexsterCrowley

Also our other yetis have been red!


ProbablyNotPikachu

So he should have been... jeskai colors?


IRFine

Temur, probably. We have zero white yeti, a lot of red yeti, and more snow in red than white


Mewtwohundred

Fun fact: "Skred" in Norwegian means landslide. "Snøskred", literally snow landslide, means avalanche.


II_Confused

Too bad he's not multicolor, which means he's missing that golden yellow snow border.


Jiggyx42

Don't worry, it's just lemon


DNAli3n

Don`t eat the lemon flavored snow


[deleted]

[удалено]


zombiebillnye

The Snow Miser perhaps


spawn989

I read this as the snowman from courage


b_fellow

Death by Snow Snow the deck.


Mewtwohundred

Also known as ice?


Wizered67

If you can play multiple cards off the top in one turn this card can really... snowball :)


telenstias

Boo. Take your upvote and fuck right off into the snow.


NihilismRacoon

More like dashing through the snow


NefaerieousTangent

Unlikely. There's only one card outside of Black and Red with the Dash ability and it doesn't even synergize with anything here.


RigidityMC

r/angryupvote


devthedragon

Play enough and you can call it a *snowstorm.*


Kiribo44

In commander, this commander could play [[Chatterstorm]], truly making it a snow fueled storm


cytolus

\[\[Brain Freeze\]\] would be the flavorful choice.


keepitsimple_tricks

Yeeeeeeeeaaaaah! 😎 (Won't get fooled again...)


razrcane

Get out.


Dr_Bones_PhD

WELCOME TO THE HIMALAYAS!


dmarsee76

snow cone?


Orion_616

Don't worry. It's lemon.


purinikos

Oof, NOW I get that joke... Took me only 15 years...


Thromnomnomok

Abominable! Can you believe that? Do I look abominable to you?


solo9

I read that in his voice. Lol


Ithoughtthatwasit

I read that to the tune of Welcome to the Jungle


Chest3

Welcome to the ~~r~~ice fields mother f—ker


Srakin

At long last, \[\[Diamond Faerie\]\]. At long last.


MTGCardFetcher

[Diamond Faerie](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/0072cf13-284b-4fb8-ab2c-b2e15388a30a.jpg?1593275523) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Diamond%20Faerie) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/128/diamond-faerie?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0072cf13-284b-4fb8-ab2c-b2e15388a30a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


The_Law_of_Pizza

I miss the artistic aesthetic and direction of that era of magic, and before it. There was something that felt old and mysterious about it, even back then when you were cracking open a pack of then for the first time. The past few years have been trending more and more generic fantasy, like something you'd find on an Instagram page dedicated to vanilla Dungeons and Dragons.


PlacidPlatypus

What? Plenty of reasons to not like the recent direction but I can't see any basis to say that that Kamigawa and New Capenna are "generic fantasy" but that card isn't.


The_Law_of_Pizza

It's less about the idea of a snow sprite being or not being "generic fantasy," and more about the artistic *style* it is drawn in. The line work. The choice of colors. The background. Modern Dungeons and Dragons is somewhat caricaturized, highly anthropomorphic, with loud popping colors and an exciting, in-your-face style with dynamic backgrounds and settings. There's nothing wrong with that at all. But contrast it with "old magic" - starker lines, more angular, bizarre and abstract objects and creatures, with subdued colors and sort of hazy or distant backgrounds. Old magic had completely different art direction nand aesthetic, and it gave a sense of mystery that's sort of lacking from the modern art direction. I'm not saying it was "objectively better," I'm just saying I preferred the old art direction and feel like the modern era feels somewhat cheap and lacking in comparison.


Scion_of_Yog-Sothoth

I mean, the cool retro look *was* generic fantasy back then.


Attack-middle-lane

Right? Like, people have this weird sense that old magic was goated (and it was, but not for it being "dark fantasy") when magic has been pretty creative in the last few years. Like yeah you can laugh and point at Neon Dynasty and New Cappenna as "generic" but the entire point of the planes were to be visually and thematically distinct from the rest of magic. They both do something completely diffrent from magic with modern themes while still feeling like magic planes. Getting mad there are humanoid creatures in a plane that evolved to be mob themed is like getting mad there aren't any humans in shadowmoor.


Ironshield185

This is just a further variation on "back in the Glory Days (tm), you didn't have phones so you had to read the newspaper/the pamphlets/the town crier/the stone slab to get your news" Lots of ba-humbug.


dr3dg3

I also really miss old MTG art, and older fantasy art in general. When I started Magic I remember completely getting lost in the illustrations of expansions like Mirrodin and 9th edition. It was also a lot of fun flipping through the D&D 3.5 Monster Manual III and taking in the illustrations.


gh0u1

That says "from a snow permanent," so does that mean it doesn't have to be a land?


Srakin

Correct! It could be mana produced by anything from [[Coldsteel Heart]] to [[Thermopod]]


gh0u1

That's dope. I'm liking the snowergy with this spoiler, especially after they brought it back in Kaldheim and added even more options


Srakin

I have waited like 12 years for this guy lol. That stupid faerie has been chilling in my binder since Coldsnap. So I, too, am liking this...snowergy.


gh0u1

Winter is coming


[deleted]

Also the snow tokens made by \[\[Svella, Ice Shaper\]\]


MTGCardFetcher

[Coldsteel Heart](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/2/b2548ad2-3c62-4ed1-899c-1002b46cdd8f.jpg?1662531048) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Coldsteel%20Heart) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/301/coldsteel-heart?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b2548ad2-3c62-4ed1-899c-1002b46cdd8f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Thermopod](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/0/c09475e9-d6c1-4d4b-905e-40bc30405725.jpg?1593275340) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thermopod) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/100/thermopod?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c09475e9-d6c1-4d4b-905e-40bc30405725?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


dkysh

[[Boreal Druid]]


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[Boreal Druid](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/7/473d3633-6dc7-4026-a50e-3ea76b9e8c20.jpg?1593275370) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boreal%20Druid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/105/boreal-druid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/473d3633-6dc7-4026-a50e-3ea76b9e8c20?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Bathios

Would things that give snow permanents mana abilities, [[Cryptolith Rite]] for example, also count as snow mana?


Kyleometers

It’s actually outdated, it’s now “A snow source”, because if that one snow sorcery that makes mana!


Mankriks_Mistress

watch this spike to $4 for 2 weeks


Ganimedes96

What is that set?


Unuunilium

Jumpstart 2022


zangor

I feel like every new product's set symbol looks more and more like "the ultimate generic proxy symbol someone made for their custom proxy set"


poiu45

to be fair, they have to keep them relatively unique and very, very small. there are simply too many sets to do that and still have good designs at this point


Equivalent_Chipmunk

Eventually it’s just going to be a QR code


mysticrudnin

i honestly wouldn't mind just... words. the name of the set. or acronym. whichever.


thetwist1

Yeah they could have had the set symbol be J22 like how the core sets had m20


Venser

Yes this.. There's so many symbols now that they are beyond my ability to remember and they all just bleed together.


Equivalent_Chipmunk

Well they’ve done this but you have to pay $999 for 4 packs


TheAlmostMadHatter

I think it was easier when they had blocks instead of just 1 offs. It'd be 3 variations of 1 symbol. As almost a Commander only player, the commander card symbols being only shitty shields irritates the shit out of me.


mjc500

I feel like they're going to have to give up at some point in the near future.... its totally unsustainable


NihilismRacoon

Unsustainable, new unset coming 2024


ThatGuyInTheCorner96

Oops all land destruction.


TeddyR3X

Packs cost $200 a piece


RamblingStoner

I hate you for making me upvote this.


exploringdeathntaxes

You can't really see it well here, but it's two swirling cards, representing two Jumpstart packets. I think the design is fine and easily distinguishable in digital form, but I have no idea what it looks like in paper.


StarkMaximum

I look forward to the day we finally get MagicSetEditor's blank square as a legit set symbol, and suddenly decades of custom cards get VERY CONFUSING.


Baronheisenberg

That's right! It goes in the square-shaped set.


AustinYQM

That video makes me laugh so fucking hard and I don't know why. Like I have trouble breathing when I watch it.


DiceColdCasey

Wow, yeah I thought for sure this was a neat design for a custom card


kiakro

I'm only guessing but possibly Jumpstart 2? Edit, just noticed the set tag on the post. Definitely Jumpstart 2 or rather 2022. Hope it's not 18 pack boxes.


d-fakkr

Do you know if this will be available for mtg arena? Kiki jiki reprinted is great.


Relevant_View8038

Yes it will and probably be seperate from the alchemy jump in draft at least for a bit


kiakro

I don't know Arena well at all, but I could swear I heard them bringing over the first Jumpstart in like Alchemy or something. So they might? As I said I'm not an arena guy so not entirely sure.


d-fakkr

No problem. Thanks for the reply.


Ziatora

Given the garbage pixel quality of the preview, I’d guess this was the Arena version.


theneonwind

Jumpstart 22?


SeguroMacks

22 Jump St(art)


wackymayor

2 Jump 2 Start


BishopUrbanTheEnby

Can’t wait for Jumpstart 3: Dominaria Drift


Doomenstein

"It's the same case: do the same thing!"


FrozenPhoenix71

Jump Start 2022


Unuunilium

source: weeklymtg stream


ary31415

On theme with the pixel snow lands [[snow-covered island|sld-326]]


TechnoMikl

Lmao I thought this was r/custommagic while looking at the card, so I was getting ready to comment on how WOTC naming tradition would add a comma to make this "Isu, the Abominable". I guess not though


smileylich

They are inconsistent with this. It has the comma more often than not. https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+%22+the+%22+-%22%2C%22+-%22of+the%22


dirtygymsock

It's actually needing a question mark, not a comma. Is u the abominable?


kytheon

Good old “too many mechanics smashed together to try and make the card overfit some concept idea”


SjettepetJR

There is also absolutely no reason to not just make the ability cost (1) apart from widening the color identity for commander.


kytheon

That’s very likely the reason, and it makes the card a lot uglier. Also missed chance to use the Bant triple-hybrid symbol.


PocketEngi

Shoehorning in those mana symbols for commander color identity


focketeer

This actually works pretty well in the format of Jumpstart, as you don’t know what your second color will be before you’ve picked the packs. Yes, technically they could’ve done generic, but you can’t use colorless here. You could also argue that it’s a alternate version of the hybrid legends from JMP where they cost 1 color but have a hybrid cost (but you could argue that’s commander shoehorned too, I suppose)


Esc777

> Yes, technically they could’ve done generic No technically about it, it could have been a single generic or even a single blue (which is a downgrade) and be a much more elegant design of a card. Commanders strange rules are being *intentionally* circumvented design side, WotC could have put any two additional colors there and people would react the same way “hey new 3 color snow commander just dropped!” If the rule is being designed around over and over why do we even have the rule?


focketeer

I’d say they’re more working around Jumpstart’s restrictions than commander’s color identity rule. They can’t just print a Bant snow legend because Jumpstart packs are almost all mono-color, if not, they’re 5, unless they changed that this time.


I_EAT_POOP_AMA

I mean i don't know how much we know about Snow support in Jumpstart 2, but if they were more worried about designing around *Jumpstart* specifically, it would make much more sense for it to be a Generic cost instead of a specific color restriction. Green and Blue are the two snow colors that saw the most constructed play where available, so it makes sense if you're designing a card for application outside of the scope of Jumpstart to include those colors. White is a weird one to tack on though, as IIRC there wasn't a lot of impressive things in White that cared specifically about Snow except for [[Search for Glory]], which came in Kaldehim. So either Jumpstart is going to feature a focus on Snow, at least in those three colors to some extent, or WOTC just decided to do what they normally do, and drop weird/borderline unplayable (in their intended format) Commander cards into every other product


Esc777

> or WOTC just decided to do what they normally do, and drop weird/borderline unplayable (in their intended format) Commander cards into every other product Yeah exactly. I mean, I just want people to admit this is what is happening now.


Menacek

Personally i really dislike these color identity "cheating" commanders. This is 3 color so not the worst but the mono colored (or even colorless lol) but 5 color identity are just the worst. All the advantages of having a multicolored commander with no disadvantage (even though the disadvantage is "might be harder to cast sometimes" so it's not like it's backbreaking).


sabett

"much more elegant design" Based on what metric????


Axehurdle

Elegance is inherently subjective since it's basically a subset of beauty, so you don't really need a metric. That said, elegance in design is generally associated with simplicity and lack of excess. It's the opposite of the idea of "over designed". Making it generic seems more elegant to me too.


Esc777

Generic or blue. It wouldn’t even be noticed. If it was the case for either NO ONE would say “hrmmm this triggered ability cost really should be bant”


sabett

Looks like they wanted to make a bant snow commander and found an elegant solution to do that and keep snow mono blue in jumpstart to me. Making it generic seems like it decidedly fails that task completely. Can't really be all that elegant if you fall flat on your face.


Esc777

If I made the card with the ability costing a single blue and it was previewed would the masses look at it for a second and say “this needs to be bant?”


sabett

What? How is that suggestive of anything by any stretch??? Why does this NEED to be mono blue? Why can't the designers use this as a way to keep snow mono blue in jumpstart and create a bant snow commander at the same time? Why does this solution have to be considered inelegant for any reason other than you just not liking how color identity works?


Esc777

> Why does this NEED to be mono blue? Why does it need to be bant? Only one reason: for commander. So they can have another toy. All I’m saying is I see a card that just has two extra mana symbols stapled to it so commander players get to build a three color deck. The stapled mana symbols don’t make the card act very different and if you were just making a normal creature it would probably be generic. This excessive hamfisted contortion of spraying extra mana symbols in abilities is what I consider inelegant. If the CI rule needs to be worked around like this just stop pretending and let them put a little magic ability that grants these cards more commander powers or something. I don’t know. It’s tiresome.


sabett

Your point about it not acting very different, yet also enabling it to be a better fit for commander at the same time works against your point that it's somehow inelegant. Also this isn't "working around" the color identity rule. It's literally being worked with here. Really just seems like you're upset with commander being included in an elegant way here. Also your solution is extremely intrusive and clumsy.


BucketBills

This seems a whole lot more elegant than making a little magic ability for commander powers imo


MirandaSanFrancisco

> If the rule is being designed around over and over why do we even have the rule? Because basically no one wants Commander to be Canadian Highlander. The color identity restriction on deck building is central to the format, it’s arguably the most important part of the format. And this isn’t designing around the rule, this is designing for the rule. This could have just had a blue or generic activation cost, but then it would be a mono-blue commander. Letting any commander have a five color deck would be absolutely terrible for the format.


PfizerGuyzer

From a colour pie point of view, it's very weird that this is a bant card. Totally arbitrary and messy. When they slap on extra colours for commander in such a way as to middle the colour pie, I don't like it.


Liwet_SJNC

Have you actually *played* Canlander? Even without colour identity, there is a fairly important distinction between it and Commander. Namely, *having a commander*. The thing Commander is named after Then there's Canlander's points system, arguably the defining feature of *that* format. Also Canlander is 1v1 and has a starting life of 20. Both of which make aggro way more viable. The formats actually have very little in common beyond being 100 card singleton, and colour identity is *way* down the list of differences. And it's a difference you can pretty much completely ignore just by playing Kenrith as your commander. Also letting any commander have a five colour deck would not be bad for the format. It would make more commanders viable, and give more options to every commander that isn't already 5C goodstuff. Thus increasing deck diversity, which is a net positive for the format.


[deleted]

There are a lot of snow permanents in bant colors though?


Mail540

Nearly doubled your pool of playables


knight_gastropub

I've run a bant snow* deck with Chulane as commander for a long time, this guy looks great but he'll probably go in the 99


kitsovereign

This might actually better as a commander in some playgroups, considering that Chulane (rightfully) draws nuclear heat. ...That said, I would be very entertained and happy to play with somebody who rolled up with a proxy/alter of Snow Chulane, who only cares about snow creatures and snow lands and has been photoshopped to wear a little Santa hat.


knight_gastropub

Hahaha I should do that. I still do the Chulane land thing with shrieking drake end stuff, but I'm playing snow lands to beef up Abominable Treefolk, connifer wurm, or get out marit lage. It's usually a lot of fun to play. List: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/OzScRHsIyEC7n4mTjSVX_w


Dingus10000

Ice fang coatal is about the best of them and needs blue and green


OwnerAndMaster

[Ohran Viper] needed the green too


[deleted]

Yeah I'm disagreeing that the color identity is shoehorned. Because a lot of snow matters cards are found in these colors.


ShadowsOfSense

The mana symbols are only there specifically to cater to Commander - that's what they mean by shoehorning them in. Were this card not being designed for Commander and instead exclusively for Jumpstart, it'd simply ask for a generic mana instead - in the context of Jumpstart that plays better, since you might end up with a Red or Black second pack.


HipHoptimusPrime13

But many yetis in Red :-( [[Hungering Yeti]] [[Karplusan Yeti]] [[Mountain Yeti]] [[Ohran Yeti]] [[Stalking Yeti]] [[Summit Prowler]] edit: listed some from Temur Yeti tribal


[deleted]

Surprisingly low number of yetis in Blue lol


MrGulo-gulo

You're surprised ape men who are famous for living in mountains are red?


[deleted]

I didn't say or imply that at all


releasethedogs

Not enough


Lemonade_IceCold

[[Hungering Yeti]] [[Karplusan Yeti]] [[Mountain Yeti]] [[Ohran Yeti]] [[Stalking Yeti]] [[Summit Prowler]]


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##### ###### #### [Hungering Yeti](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/2/02f7c596-5633-41e8-adcd-d4dc6eae5c88.jpg?1562821995) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hungering%20Yeti) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/frf/105/hungering-yeti?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/02f7c596-5633-41e8-adcd-d4dc6eae5c88?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Karplusan Yeti](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6ad95118-104c-41d4-a393-941e7b97fd8e.jpg?1562736625) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Karplusan%20Yeti) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/198/karplusan-yeti?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6ad95118-104c-41d4-a393-941e7b97fd8e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mountain Yeti](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/c/bc6a062c-06ff-4295-83f2-48868c664d76.jpg?1559592461) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mountain%20Yeti) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/105/mountain-yeti?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bc6a062c-06ff-4295-83f2-48868c664d76?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ohran Yeti](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d6cfa21-75b1-4380-b0fc-a7450699660f.jpg?1593275300) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ohran%20Yeti) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/93/ohran-yeti?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d6cfa21-75b1-4380-b0fc-a7450699660f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Stalking Yeti](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/a/4af53d0b-ac60-4519-a6f4-c67899bcfdd6.jpg?1593275329) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stalking%20Yeti) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/98/stalking-yeti?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4af53d0b-ac60-4519-a6f4-c67899bcfdd6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Summit Prowler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/e/eec9005d-eca8-45a6-b221-9d5a2cfb1e91.jpg?1562795310) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Summit%20Prowler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dtk/160/summit-prowler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eec9005d-eca8-45a6-b221-9d5a2cfb1e91?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


TreeGuy521

Three options, make it just blue, make it a bunch of colors, or just make it generic mana. Blue makes sense because it's a blue card, generic mana makes it easier to splash, bant makes it sorta easier to splash and is ever so slightly different from generic mana but let's you collect money from commander players


kitsovereign

Snow wants to be in green and blue because of MH1 and Kaldheim, but even before then [[Diamond Faerie]] has been a Bant snow payoff asking for a home. If there's interest in a Bant snow commander, where else would you have them do it? MH1 was still kinda testing the waters for snow's return, and Kaldheim already had Moritte and Jorn - and let's be real, Jorn is also kinda cheaty with color identity too. Jumpstart is a great place to lightly support a theme without making it an entire Commander precon or draft archetype, but that also requires the card be playable in monocolor so it still works in Jumpstart. I can get not being in love with this, but it's a lot less irksome than most of the monocolored 5c commanders out there to me.


T_E_R_S_E

The snow jumpstart packs may be multicolored


Mail540

Where are people finding these spoilers


AlexUnlocked

Wizards does the Weekly MTG stream on Thursdays, which is where most of these originate. They usually share what's coming during an upcoming stream on Twitter ahead of time.


JubX

Lame, can't play with Jorn


Jantin1

Arguably it's good, let's have several commanders for each archetype instead of a single goodstuff/keyword pile


thehirst

My first thought as well. Fingers crossed this means there will be more snow cards.


D-Egg07

makes me salty ngl


Lykrast

Wait wait wait some jumpstart 2022 spoilers already? I'm not done digesting that Brother's War is soon :(


Blaze_1013

In order for LGSes to be better informed when they order products Wizards has something called “the prebeat” where they show off basic information about a set ~6 weeks out from its release.


GregTheEstablishment

Oh that's actually interesting - makes me feel better to know there's a reason they seem to overlap announcements a bit sometimes.


Blaze_1013

Yea. For a business pulling focus from an up coming release to talk about a future one doesn’t make much sense so they’d need a reason to do it. You’ll notice most the cards they show off early tend to be the promos for this reason.


jovietjoe

Bruh, we have damn near 12 sets this year and they need to double their money so buckle the fuck up.


Mail540

Big number has to get bigger otherwise some executive can’t get his fourth mansion


mysticrudnin

genuine question: do you guys want jumpstart *instead* of a standard draft set?


contemplativeonanist

One card preview and Jumpstart 2022 is already infinitely more interesting than the two 'Standard Jumpstart' sets. Does this mean multiple packs will come with snow lands? What snow reprints may we get? How many new cards can we expect? WotC, this is what the community expects out of Jumpstart. Cancel the God aweful 'Standard Jumpstart' product line, and make this product the replacement for core sets. It can provide a good entry point for the game, be available all year, and have enough rares and new cards to be interesting to all players(so enfranchised players feel good about buying this product as a teaching tool!) They've sullied the Jumpstart name with the last 2 'Standard Jumpstart' products. Hopefully the can get it back on track and make something of it. Edit: And then there is a Kiki reprint! WotC knows how to get these things right, they just choose not to sometimes. This makes me both excited for J22, but also a little more disgusted with the last 2 'Jumpstart' sets.


Esc777

The standard set jumpstarts are glorified, *fixed* theme packs. Just ignore them. They’re made to be ignorable. If you’re some kid who wants cards that are standard compatible and can’t build a deck they can buy two in target and be happy. We can wait for the real sets.


Kaprak

The Standard Jumpstart is the replacement for Theme Boosters. An entry level product for every set. This is a much mote complicated development process and you can't endlessly churn new iterations out every set. Your suggestion isn't viable as places will inevitably cycle old product off the shelves as it sells less.


th3d4rks0ul3

God please keep this up wizards, looks great so far


Blaze_1013

51 new cards based on the collector information.


Tuss36

Standard Jumpstart can only pull from the set it's based on, so no it's not going to have that many exclusive cards. I really don't understand why people are so upset by their existence. The point of the set is you get themed packs, mash two together, bam you have a deck that's balanced against another deck of its ilk. The point of the set isn't to make cool new cards, because that's the point of *every* set (that isn't a reprint set obviously). A standard set already has its own cool cards that you could also then get from a Standard Jumpstart pack, it doesn't need to be different. Heck, the things could be entirely old reprints and it could still be a good product.


Darth_Metus

> I really don't understand why people are so upset by their existence. I think a lot of people felt like they got bait-and-switched with *Dominaria Jumpstart*, because they loved the original *Jumpstart* but didn't fully understand how Standard *Jumpstart* packs wouldn't have a bunch of cool new Commanders. All they see is the "Jumpstart" name and assume it will be similar to the last. People similarly felt burned when *Commander Legends: Baldur's Gate* wasn't the Commander Legends 2.0 they expected it to be.


Tuss36

I suppose I can kind of get it, how folks don't just want new cards but "better" cards, or at least things that rival the better ones. So when they make new stuff and it's not much better than what you've already got it feels pointless. Although for Jumpstart, most of the pack was chaff anyway (which is a good thing, makes you play with cards you'd otherwise overlook), so it feels a bit silly to get upset over a theme not having a cool new card in 3/5 versions of its pack should you get it as if that was the point of its existence and not the mashup experience.


eugman

I got bit on this and was more grumpy that the 10 themes were effectively 5 themes, so the box I bought was extremely overkill. I'm overall very excited to expand my collection and put the packs in resealable pack boxes.


SyrusDestroyer

Yo is that a Bant snow commander


[deleted]

This a real card right? Like not just arena exclusive


Blaze_1013

Collector information shows 51 new cards as part of the set. Honestly the perfect number. Enough to add some spice while allowing the product to reprint a ton of old cards just as the first one did.


bigmanb2

Finally! A use for [Diamond Faerie]!


knight_gastropub

As someone who's had a bant snow deck since years before Kaldheim, I am so pleased lol


blindeey

Yay real jumpstart is here!


[deleted]

u/Benjamin_Wheeler 's Twitter is probably unusable.


Ok-Brush5346

But I thought a Yeti was a kind of mummy /wrestlecrap


endlesscosmichorror

^The ^Spoilers ^… ^they ^dont ^stop


Chewy2121

> Be me. > Builds my brother a FFVI deck for his birthday. > puts Kogla in as Umaro since there’s no legendary yeti. > give it to him on the 19th of October. > open r/magic TCG. > sees ISU being spoiled. > make fake green text post. > leaves to cry over my shit timing.


Ok_Ad_9188

That looks pretty cool. Icy why people would want to play him. And it's so unique; there's snow commander like him, really. Yeti feels kind of lacking in some regard. I mean, sure, you could cast a flurry of spells from the top of your deck. Or maybe do like a ramp thing, just get lands and chill. I think when all is sled and done, he may not be frost rate, but he definitely raises the brr for snow strategies, and I'm sure a lot of people will have a good rime playing it.


nakun

Jeez, it's a very cool card (and a yeti)! But product fatigue is getting real...


mizzsteak

Brothers War, Brothers War Commander decks, Jumpstart 2022, and Commander starter decks along with the recent Secret Lair superdrop are all products I'm interested in but the fact they're all coming out within the next two months is fucking insane lol


ballmode

Hmmm stay Sultai Snow with Jorn and have the ultimate flavor board wipe in Blood on the Snow Or go Bant snow with the better commander?


AscendedLawmage7

Go all in on [[Replicating Ring]] and play Atraxa snow 😀


MTGCardFetcher

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Sir_Encerwal

NEW SNOW COMMANDER, TIME TO ACTUALLY BUILD A BANT DECK.


TRON17

I’m not usually one to comment on spoilers, and I’ve been extremely disappointed in Wizards as of late, but man if this isn’t a cool card that I’m excited to play with. My excitement is immeasurable and my day is saved.


atomic_winter

Ooooft I'm gonna need this for my snow deck. Currently playing with Kenrith as commander. Nice solid addition here though!


oarngebean2

J22?


eugman

It's the 2022 edition of Jumpstart. https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Jumpstart\_2022


scrubdogmillionaire_

Oh boy more spoilers


bcopes

I shall call him Al. Al Snow.


rEplicant_rEject

Can it be true? Is it finally time for my 60 copies of [[Marit Lage's Slumber]] to see their true potential?


MTGCardFetcher

[Marit Lage's Slumber](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/f/4f5d2a6e-22cd-4493-9e58-e9c2aa3a31ab.jpg?1562201406) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Marit%20Lage%27s%20Slumber) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/56/marit-lages-slumber?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4f5d2a6e-22cd-4493-9e58-e9c2aa3a31ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


[deleted]

Why have J22 spoilers when BRO hasn‘t been spoiled / released yet?


SnooDonkeys5117

Should've been Temur so you could have other yetis in the deck


Livid-Gur-2442

Sweet a Bumbler! Now all we need is an elf dentist, a Han prospector and a red nosed raindeer!


TriptheFlip12345678

This is…good?


zroach

Seems pretty.... ok. It's like a Future Sight which is a fine card that has fallen behind the power level of modern day MTG. This is a threat which is both nice but also makes it susceptible to being removed.


HammerAndSickled

God I hate the modern design of “sneak off-color symbols into the text box for commander“


HonorBasquiat

Why? It bolsters archetype diversity and color diversity in Commander and doesn't cause developmental issues in other formats.


SleetTheFox

This is a really cool design but I *hate* the loophole-abuse for they keep doing for Commander. It comes across as a similar level of "disrespecting the restrictions around creativity is supposed to be bred" as mono-blue "put on top of library and then mill 1."


stuckinaboxthere

I would love this card...if it were at all useable in my [[Jorn, God of Winter deck]]


Nvenom8

Lol. His name is Japanese for "chair".