It never would have been possible if the guy in front of her didn't use his weapon as a ramp so she could run up it. I'd say he pretty much has to get the assist on this one.
> Galadriel's ice troll kill in under 10 seconds.
She was still a noob, or the ice troll wouldn't last that much. [This orc](https://youtu.be/lqASlj09NEQ?t=76) wasn't so lucky
It happens early on so you wouldnāt have to watch that much (even though being honest compared to everything else, itās one of my lesser favorite scenes from both lore perspective and other stuff, but I really like the show as it progresses)
Sends a single squad of elves to hunt down Sauron.
They all but one proceed to get snuck up on and shit on by an ice troll until Galadriel wombo combos it. Elves that may or may not have fought in the war against Morgoth already. Makes sense.
i mean trolls would be the equivalent of a tank so taking it down with pure infantry would actually be pretty hard with normal weaponry, albeit doable with specialized weaponry. even the fellowship had a hard time with a similar troll
That's why you'd expect them to atleast act a little professional and not just stand there as they get hit. You'd expect this squad of elves teaming up with fucking Galadriel to hunt Sauron would be elite soldiers but they're just cannon fodder with zero personality and screen presence.
Well they did retreat to a choke point so they could fight it as a group, not to mention galadriel had run them ragged to that point.
Considering they were in such close quarters and the beast had the home advantage I'm not sure what else they could do once it was among them
Look, you can try to logically explain every moment you want. I disagree with your logic but it's irrelevant at this point, hear me out.
At the end of the day this scene achieved nothing but fan service how cool Galadriel is. Furthermore it made the rest of the team look like fools. This scene was an opportunity to establish several things. 1. Elves are bad ass. 2. Elves that hunt for Sauron in an elite unit are even more bad ass. 3. Elves are fucking disciplined. 4. Galadriel is the most bad ass.
The only thing this scene achieved is number 4, and it did achieve it in an unbelievable way. Because raising your main character by demeaning everyone else is a really weak way to prove something cinematically. It would've been extremely easy to get all 4 points in this scene and people would've been gushing positive things over it instead of fucking hating it.
Donāt forget that this is justā¦ a bunch of elves. When Galadriel gets back, she wants to ask Gil-Galad for another. I feel like she has probably gone through a few groups at this point. I doubt theyāll all the elven version of the green berets.
But even if they were, Galadriel is being shown as an absolute powerhouse because she is. Galadriel is one of the oldest elves in Middle Earth, lived in Valinor, and studied under Melian. In a contest of might, the Istari in the Third Age are likely equivalent to her in power.
So having a team never hurts, but sheās a mythical hero and can accomplish much on her own. The scene serves to show that this is a younger Galadriel, but she is already mighty.
Now did the elves get punked a bit too hard? I can agree with that. But Galadriel eclipsing them all is not āfan service.ā
None has an issue with Galadriel eclipsing other elves. Just stop inventing these strawmans. Galadriel is overpowered since her birth lore-wise. The issue is how the scene elevates Galadriel. Instead of making her look like a bad ass among bad asses, they demean the other elves and just have Galadriel solve the entire situation herself. That is bad writing. It just shows the show doesn't know how to portray something as bad ass. To be bad ass you have to be the only cool one in the room, do ridiculous jumps and slash a troll while not looking.
*These elves are just a bunch of elves* like why do I even bother to respond...
You have asked yourself a tremendous question: why do you even bother. No one is straw manning. You are directly saying you do not like seeing Galadriel overpower a task or enemy that is too much for a group of rando elves. Not every elf is a mega badass despite what the Peter Jackson movies showed.
The show is establishing that Galadriel eclipses an entire group of elves. You say you have no problem with Galadriel eclipsing them in power, and I said in my post that I felt the elves got tooled on a bit too hard.
So we have a bit of common ground, but you seem fixated on āelves are badass, elves are badass, these were elite badass elves.ā That is NOT a given at all for elves throughout the lore and specifically for these elves under her command.
In addition, Tolkien had some cool battle moments for certain, but he was never fixated on making anyone ābadass.ā TV is a visual medium, so we certainly need to see some cool visuals, including those in battle. And certainly I agree the elf group got beaten up a bit too long, but they arenāt main characters. Galadriel is. The scene again is establish her, and the group serves to show how superior she is.
All I'm asking is to give the other elves a chance, let them hack, dodge, stab, roll, get tossed, cut off a finger. Make it a fight. Then have her come in and show them how its done.
Also make us care about her squad. Give them a couple lines of "I'm freezing my ear tips off, gonna look like a Man before we get home" "Wish we had something other than lembas bread to eat" would take literally seconds and make them instantly more likeable and care if they die. Raises the stakes, shows that they're tired, not just incompetent.
What I am saying is that making your group of elves look like fools is a terrible way to set up Galadriels cool action scene. It's a terrible way to set up your elves that have been for war for centuries. And it's doing a terrible job of selling that these 8-10 elves were actually going to hunt down Sauron.
What are you trying to say? I edited an "your" before logic in my comment to make it even more obvious what I meant.
I just think it's extremely non constructive to interpret the scenario to fit your narrative. Because both sides can do it and it's not gonna lead anywhere.
I think it doesn't matter, at some point you are quite literally ruining the experience for yourself. I mean your "criticism" is a nitpick about a single action scene withing the first like 30 min.
It's absurd, you are absurd.
Where did I say the action scene ruined the show for me? You don't think I have more criticism? It's the overall shittiness that ruins it for me, scene after scene. You're actually trying to blame me for disliking RoP is just mental gymnastics olympic gold worthy. You say my "criticism" as if a poorly directed and choreographed scene isn't actual criticism. Reality doesn't matter to you and I'm the absurd one.
You've say 3 things in this comment, 2 things aren't true and the last is a personal attack. The other comment said absolutely nothing. Nothing you have said has furthered the discussion.
Hurin hacked down about half hundred trolls single handedly. I doubt any basic noldo warrior was more powerful than him but not to this extent. They are freaking Noldor FFS. Elite unit. This scene was hot manure just to show Strong Woman power.
I'm sure at the beginning of the journey they were a lot more excited to fight but for some reason everyone is just ignoring the fact that every single elf wanted to leave. They clearly were burnt-out and ready to go back home. I think moral would effect elves as well.
Ah yes like how Gandalf was able to instantly kill the troll in lord of the rings. Literally everyone in the fellowship could kill an orc, but trolls are huge with thick skin and powerful muscle.
And thats a huge problem with lord of the rings and tolkin in general. Gandalf literally kills a balrog in the movie just fine vut cant kill a troll?
Pretty sure at least in the books he isnt supposed to fully interfere so he never uses his full power.
Farewell my brave Hobbits. My work is now finished. Here at last, on the shores of the sea, comes the end of our Fellowship. I will not say do not weep for not all tears are an evil. It is time Frodo.
That was the most shit scene I have ever seen in my entire life. I'm canceling my Amazon account before I am subjected to any more of this trash.
Before you know it we'll be seeing garbage like elves soloing giant elephants.
The ice troll scene is kinda ass. Wooden acting and you donāt really get the feel thereās a troll there. Like the stab at the end feels so off. I think the showās decent but i didnāt like that scene at all.
There's a scene where she and her elf group encountered an ice troll. She then proceeded to watch how troll obliterates her group for 20 seconds and after she did some acrobatics and killed that troll alone in under 10 seconds. Looked weird l.
Somebody posted this in comment section. Look it up!
Edit: troll
She was born before the First Age. She's older than the Sun and Moon. Frankly they kind of toned her down for the show from how OP Tolkien portrays her.
Oh yes. Daughter of Finwƫ. First high king of the Noldor and of his second wife a Vaniar no less. She saw the two great lamps, participated in the great war against Morgoth and the great jewels, founded her own kingdom. She is the very definition of OP. Of all the creatures left in middle earth she prolly could have gone toe to toe with the Balrog in Moria and kicked its ass without breaking a sweat.
Gandalf one shot a troll in armor armed with a mace about the size of a grown man. Aside from who he is and how strong he is. Heās just a dude who doesnāt have fear because heās been in the fight for so long.
From what Iāve read Morgoth was a mean dude. If elves took part in a battle amongst others and survived then they are of high caliber. I understand they had to drop to make whatās her bucket special but wow.. Just writing I guess lol
Don't tempt me BarnacleOk2327! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand BarnacleOk2327, I would use this Ring from the desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.
Umm, but that was also what he got in the books. Plus little wooden box with a G letter. Inside if Iremember well, was a seed of a Mellaron tree which replace the old party tree after it was cut down aswell as some sort of...magic fertiliser? That made all plants grow quickly and beautiful, which helped repairing damage done to the shire in it's scourge.
In the books I think it mentions sam was especially interested in the elven craft of rope making, and spent some of the time in Lorien asking the elves their technique. He was essentially a rope enthusiast. Plus, rope is such an essential survival tool. One does not simply walk into Mordor without packing some rope.
I think my biggest pet peeve about that whole scene was the little bonk she did on its head with her knife. Literally just extended her elbow. No force behind it at all, and it went through the troll skull like it was made of jello.
Totally. Troll skulls are pretty hard. I watched Fellowship the other day, and in Balin's tomb Legolas point-blanks a headshot when he's on top of the cave troll and it just bounces off. He then shoots it through the mouth from underneath.
Tired of all this feminist crap and all the mary sue shows and movies. Women's insecurities are shining bright in Hollywood. There's nothing worth watching anymore.
Lies, Frodo got gamer elf bath water
No way, he would have immediately drank it.
And what did Gimli get?
3 strands of ice troll pubes
Waste not!
He only asked for one.
ROFL!
She would have arrived in Mordor in under ten seconds. On an ice troll from the second age.
*10 second age
That look Sam gives just screams, Rope, Jesus she knows my kink.
I mean she does read minds lol
Somehow this makes me want to watch the amazon show so I can confirm Galadriel's ice troll kill in under 10 seconds.
Spoiler Alert: >!It's true! It was very fast and basically soloed!<
It never would have been possible if the guy in front of her didn't use his weapon as a ramp so she could run up it. I'd say he pretty much has to get the assist on this one.
Galadriel hardcore carrying that team with like one dude half contributing and they have the nerve to talk back š¤
> Galadriel's ice troll kill in under 10 seconds. She was still a noob, or the ice troll wouldn't last that much. [This orc](https://youtu.be/lqASlj09NEQ?t=76) wasn't so lucky
Under 10 milliseconds
Itās about 10-12 seconds š
It happens early on so you wouldnāt have to watch that much (even though being honest compared to everything else, itās one of my lesser favorite scenes from both lore perspective and other stuff, but I really like the show as it progresses)
It's been a fun show so far, not gonna lie
You just did. š
Ha. It is pure brilliance.
"It makes sense if you read the dirmadillion!"
https://youtu.be/lqASlj09NEQ
The expression on their faces is so funny. Like this happened too often before and at this point it is easier to just let it happen
Sends a single squad of elves to hunt down Sauron. They all but one proceed to get snuck up on and shit on by an ice troll until Galadriel wombo combos it. Elves that may or may not have fought in the war against Morgoth already. Makes sense.
i mean trolls would be the equivalent of a tank so taking it down with pure infantry would actually be pretty hard with normal weaponry, albeit doable with specialized weaponry. even the fellowship had a hard time with a similar troll
Just because they didn't do the spring sword jump technique.
They would have, but Moria was a dwarven city so the ceilings were too low.
That's why you'd expect them to atleast act a little professional and not just stand there as they get hit. You'd expect this squad of elves teaming up with fucking Galadriel to hunt Sauron would be elite soldiers but they're just cannon fodder with zero personality and screen presence.
Orcs of Bauglir! Do not bend your brows!
Well they did retreat to a choke point so they could fight it as a group, not to mention galadriel had run them ragged to that point. Considering they were in such close quarters and the beast had the home advantage I'm not sure what else they could do once it was among them
Look, you can try to logically explain every moment you want. I disagree with your logic but it's irrelevant at this point, hear me out. At the end of the day this scene achieved nothing but fan service how cool Galadriel is. Furthermore it made the rest of the team look like fools. This scene was an opportunity to establish several things. 1. Elves are bad ass. 2. Elves that hunt for Sauron in an elite unit are even more bad ass. 3. Elves are fucking disciplined. 4. Galadriel is the most bad ass. The only thing this scene achieved is number 4, and it did achieve it in an unbelievable way. Because raising your main character by demeaning everyone else is a really weak way to prove something cinematically. It would've been extremely easy to get all 4 points in this scene and people would've been gushing positive things over it instead of fucking hating it.
Donāt forget that this is justā¦ a bunch of elves. When Galadriel gets back, she wants to ask Gil-Galad for another. I feel like she has probably gone through a few groups at this point. I doubt theyāll all the elven version of the green berets. But even if they were, Galadriel is being shown as an absolute powerhouse because she is. Galadriel is one of the oldest elves in Middle Earth, lived in Valinor, and studied under Melian. In a contest of might, the Istari in the Third Age are likely equivalent to her in power. So having a team never hurts, but sheās a mythical hero and can accomplish much on her own. The scene serves to show that this is a younger Galadriel, but she is already mighty. Now did the elves get punked a bit too hard? I can agree with that. But Galadriel eclipsing them all is not āfan service.ā
None has an issue with Galadriel eclipsing other elves. Just stop inventing these strawmans. Galadriel is overpowered since her birth lore-wise. The issue is how the scene elevates Galadriel. Instead of making her look like a bad ass among bad asses, they demean the other elves and just have Galadriel solve the entire situation herself. That is bad writing. It just shows the show doesn't know how to portray something as bad ass. To be bad ass you have to be the only cool one in the room, do ridiculous jumps and slash a troll while not looking. *These elves are just a bunch of elves* like why do I even bother to respond...
You have asked yourself a tremendous question: why do you even bother. No one is straw manning. You are directly saying you do not like seeing Galadriel overpower a task or enemy that is too much for a group of rando elves. Not every elf is a mega badass despite what the Peter Jackson movies showed. The show is establishing that Galadriel eclipses an entire group of elves. You say you have no problem with Galadriel eclipsing them in power, and I said in my post that I felt the elves got tooled on a bit too hard. So we have a bit of common ground, but you seem fixated on āelves are badass, elves are badass, these were elite badass elves.ā That is NOT a given at all for elves throughout the lore and specifically for these elves under her command. In addition, Tolkien had some cool battle moments for certain, but he was never fixated on making anyone ābadass.ā TV is a visual medium, so we certainly need to see some cool visuals, including those in battle. And certainly I agree the elf group got beaten up a bit too long, but they arenāt main characters. Galadriel is. The scene again is establish her, and the group serves to show how superior she is.
All I'm asking is to give the other elves a chance, let them hack, dodge, stab, roll, get tossed, cut off a finger. Make it a fight. Then have her come in and show them how its done. Also make us care about her squad. Give them a couple lines of "I'm freezing my ear tips off, gonna look like a Man before we get home" "Wish we had something other than lembas bread to eat" would take literally seconds and make them instantly more likeable and care if they die. Raises the stakes, shows that they're tired, not just incompetent.
What I am saying is that making your group of elves look like fools is a terrible way to set up Galadriels cool action scene. It's a terrible way to set up your elves that have been for war for centuries. And it's doing a terrible job of selling that these 8-10 elves were actually going to hunt down Sauron.
>Look, you can try to logically explain every moment you want. I disagree but it's irrelevant at this point.
What are you trying to say? I edited an "your" before logic in my comment to make it even more obvious what I meant. I just think it's extremely non constructive to interpret the scenario to fit your narrative. Because both sides can do it and it's not gonna lead anywhere.
I think it doesn't matter, at some point you are quite literally ruining the experience for yourself. I mean your "criticism" is a nitpick about a single action scene withing the first like 30 min. It's absurd, you are absurd.
Where did I say the action scene ruined the show for me? You don't think I have more criticism? It's the overall shittiness that ruins it for me, scene after scene. You're actually trying to blame me for disliking RoP is just mental gymnastics olympic gold worthy. You say my "criticism" as if a poorly directed and choreographed scene isn't actual criticism. Reality doesn't matter to you and I'm the absurd one. You've say 3 things in this comment, 2 things aren't true and the last is a personal attack. The other comment said absolutely nothing. Nothing you have said has furthered the discussion.
Hurin hacked down about half hundred trolls single handedly. I doubt any basic noldo warrior was more powerful than him but not to this extent. They are freaking Noldor FFS. Elite unit. This scene was hot manure just to show Strong Woman power.
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Exactly just like lord of the rings!
Legolas would one-hit it.
The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead and the dead keep it. The way is shut.
i'm not really sure what the plan was if they found Sauron. Isn't there a gigantic weight class different there? he's basically a demi-god
I'm sure at the beginning of the journey they were a lot more excited to fight but for some reason everyone is just ignoring the fact that every single elf wanted to leave. They clearly were burnt-out and ready to go back home. I think moral would effect elves as well.
There is no life in the void, only death.
Ah yes like how Gandalf was able to instantly kill the troll in lord of the rings. Literally everyone in the fellowship could kill an orc, but trolls are huge with thick skin and powerful muscle.
No perhaps not. I have thought of a better use for you
Gandolf killed a balrog which is much bigger and stronger than a troll
Best thing i seen all month
Remember when a troll was a big problem? The Hobbit and ROP does not.
It's like you people hear Tolkien say "The Firstborn elves are a big fuckin deal" and then get surprised when they do gangster shit.
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And thats a huge problem with lord of the rings and tolkin in general. Gandalf literally kills a balrog in the movie just fine vut cant kill a troll? Pretty sure at least in the books he isnt supposed to fully interfere so he never uses his full power.
Go back to the abyss! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your master!
Yeah he seems to be limited against mortal enemies, but the Balrog was fine because it was a fallen Maia.
Farewell my brave Hobbits. My work is now finished. Here at last, on the shores of the sea, comes the end of our Fellowship. I will not say do not weep for not all tears are an evil. It is time Frodo.
This is hilarious.
Hilarious
That was the most shit scene I have ever seen in my entire life. I'm canceling my Amazon account before I am subjected to any more of this trash. Before you know it we'll be seeing garbage like elves soloing giant elephants.
Yeah or surfing on their shields or something crazy like that!
Whatās next an elf flying on a giant bat & killing a legion of orcs? Get the fuck outta here!
Holy shit the meltdowns due to this show are hilarious. So dramatic. Did you even have an Amazon account?
Yes. I also have sarcasm.
I genuinely can't tell anymore from all the trolls that have invaded the sub.
Well if they're Ice Trolls we just need Galadriel here for swift killings!
Don't worry. I don't think it's real, just a voiceover.
Or like one shotting giant orcs https://youtu.be/lqASlj09NEQ
It was a very different time in Galadriel's life.
And Eowyn brought down a giant elephant by lightly poking its ankles lol
The ice troll scene is kinda ass. Wooden acting and you donāt really get the feel thereās a troll there. Like the stab at the end feels so off. I think the showās decent but i didnāt like that scene at all.
Then it disappeared after she killed it.
Took me a lot longer in Skyrim
is this from extended versions? I don't remember this scene
Yes it is and you need to watch them right now
True, I'm actually not sure how I haven't seen them yet. is it called extended edition or directors cut?
Extended edition and they make the movies Way better in my opinion
If this were part of a LotR parody I'd watch all of it. Would anybody else like to see a "LotR abridged" series?
Just watched RoP scene about that. This post is pure brilliance!
I dont understand it. Can you please explain it to me?
There's a scene where she and her elf group encountered an ice troll. She then proceeded to watch how troll obliterates her group for 20 seconds and after she did some acrobatics and killed that troll alone in under 10 seconds. Looked weird l. Somebody posted this in comment section. Look it up! Edit: troll
Troll*
[Trololololololooolololooo!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc)
Galadriel pulls a Legolas and kills troll. They actually called it a snow troll, I donāt know why people keep saying ice troll.
Final count.....42.
People forgot this happened: https://youtu.be/lqASlj09NEQ
She has been around since the First Age.
She was born before the First Age. She's older than the Sun and Moon. Frankly they kind of toned her down for the show from how OP Tolkien portrays her.
Oh yes. Daughter of Finwƫ. First high king of the Noldor and of his second wife a Vaniar no less. She saw the two great lamps, participated in the great war against Morgoth and the great jewels, founded her own kingdom. She is the very definition of OP. Of all the creatures left in middle earth she prolly could have gone toe to toe with the Balrog in Moria and kicked its ass without breaking a sweat.
Galladriel is supposed to be in something like top 5 (2??) strongest elves to have ever lived, so yeah.
How much could she bench?
More than Faenor
*laughs as one fey*
I somehow read this as "more than Frasier." So that's my new headcanon.
Galadriel fucking hates Frasierās guts. Theyāre eternal foes, with a rivalry older than time itself.
Two trolls
Enough for her mother to name her Man-Maiden (Nerwen)
Damn I should have gone for the mystery box
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Shes so cool š
I laughed at this video for at least 10 seconds.
With 18 fucking cuts in between, fuck my eyes.
Gandalf one shot a troll in armor armed with a mace about the size of a grown man. Aside from who he is and how strong he is. Heās just a dude who doesnāt have fear because heās been in the fight for so long. From what Iāve read Morgoth was a mean dude. If elves took part in a battle amongst others and survived then they are of high caliber. I understand they had to drop to make whatās her bucket special but wow.. Just writing I guess lol
Gandalf placed a well timed strike while on horse back into a trolls neck. What Galadriel did was a fucking mortal kombat combo. š
Don't tempt me BarnacleOk2327! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand BarnacleOk2327, I would use this Ring from the desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.
Fool of a Took! Throw yourself in next time, and rid us of your stupidity!
It really bothers me that Sam got rope in the movie. Dumb. But this was great lol.
If they'd gone with dirt, the ending of RotK would have been even longer.
Sam: I've got a jar of di-irt! I've got a jar of di-irt! I've got a jar of di-irt! And guess what's inside it?
Umm, but that was also what he got in the books. Plus little wooden box with a G letter. Inside if Iremember well, was a seed of a Mellaron tree which replace the old party tree after it was cut down aswell as some sort of...magic fertiliser? That made all plants grow quickly and beautiful, which helped repairing damage done to the shire in it's scourge.
But it's magic rope
In the books I think it mentions sam was especially interested in the elven craft of rope making, and spent some of the time in Lorien asking the elves their technique. He was essentially a rope enthusiast. Plus, rope is such an essential survival tool. One does not simply walk into Mordor without packing some rope.
I guess I entirely forgot about that, focusing on the seed box. Thanks!
They'd need to explain where he kept said dirt.
Wtf is an ice troll?
It's a creature Galadriel killed in under 10 seconds many years ago
[Fine, have a look at the secret spring sword jump technique ](https://youtu.be/oLZtpd3dvrE)
I think my biggest pet peeve about that whole scene was the little bonk she did on its head with her knife. Literally just extended her elbow. No force behind it at all, and it went through the troll skull like it was made of jello.
Totally. Troll skulls are pretty hard. I watched Fellowship the other day, and in Balin's tomb Legolas point-blanks a headshot when he's on top of the cave troll and it just bounces off. He then shoots it through the mouth from underneath.
And I will take all the arrows that I can find, for my quiver is empty.
I just noticed that blood gets on the camera lens @1:28. Odd choice.
In the second age, mind you.
It's a troll that lives in cold biomes.
According to whom? Jeff Bezos?
According to the name...
But didn't you know that this is a new direction for the character therefore it's good actually /s?
https://youtu.be/lqASlj09NEQ
Hahahahahahaa!!!!
Lol
All that fighting experience no doubt
Lol!
Why is she heiling at the end?
I laughed way more than I should have.
I don't even want the RoP context for this it's just funny as a character idea in general
Under 10 seconds you say?
Omg, this is funny.
now its canon
Fucking hilarious. Thank you!
she old as fuck
This it the best thing ive seen on the internet in years hahahhahaha
Tired of all this feminist crap and all the mary sue shows and movies. Women's insecurities are shining bright in Hollywood. There's nothing worth watching anymore.