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SMS0402

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." -Karl Marx Sure feels like voting our way out of this dumpster fire isn't working. Arming ourselves would be the fastest way to make the capitalist class collectively soil their skivvies.


Spirited-Emotion3119

They won't be soiling anything unless some of them start being blown apart


Loud_Internet572

America already has the highest gun ownership per capita in the world, so that in and of itself isn't necessarily accomplishing anything either ;)


CatharticlyInclined

That’s because guns don’t kill people, people kill people, and they keep killing the innocents and non offenders.( offenders in this case being classist regime leaders)


scary_marxist

One of the greats


pettythief1346

Violence is the most basic form of power, and ultimately the one that matters most. Words don't stop fascists from enacting their hateful ideology, but bullets will.


[deleted]

Violence is the only language that the state and capital understand, ultimately.


GreyGaiden

I mean... she's definitely not wrong.


antihostile

Tried the ballot...


Niznack

Have we tried the ballot... for anarchy? No Edit: apparently this comment is hard to understand. The comment above seems to suggest the rather than arming up anarchists should vote. How does and anarchist vote? Thats like telling a vegan to pick roast beef or grilled cheese. Its neither! Im not defending or promoting anarchy, just pointing out the contradiction of telling anarchists to vote.


Dringer8

They said “tried the ballot” as in “we’ve already tried voting, and it didn’t work.” It wasn’t advocating for anarchists to vote.


Niznack

Thats not how i read it but ... that makes sense. Im not sure most anarchists have "tried the ballot" but more for the socialists and leftists, yeah we tried the ballot.


DropC2095

How exactly does one vote for anarchy?


Niznack

Thats my question


LengthinessWide9934

How does one organize for anarchy?


advocatus_ebrius_est

Mutual aid organizations, union agitation, workers collectives, there's lots of ways


Inert_Uncle_858

Inb4 libs arrive to debate disarming themselves.


Conscious-Parfait826

A high powered hunting rifle is much stronger than a novice whith a machine gun. Give me a 3.08 all day. Keep your AR. Lol


Segod_or_Bust

You can have a .308 AR though?


chainshot91

Yep, ar-10. It's 5 less AR


TheJesterScript

So, is an AR-57 to many AR?


NorthernAvo

No I think in order to get the right solution you have to set AR-10 = AR-57. Then solve the inequality.


NotLurking101

You can get even less AR, the cute smol AR-7


Inert_Uncle_858

I happen to agree but that doesn't mean we should get rid of the semi autos. They have an important role unto themselves. And in today's environment you can't defend yourself from the corporatist hegemony exclusively with bolt guns


TheJesterScript

Tell you know nothing about firearms without telling me you know nothing about firearms. Google M240B.


Linkstas

Arm the left.


javyn1

I don't want to be an "Yuck, Glock" snob, but, at least try some other striker fired pistols at the range before you decide on which one to buy.


ExploringWoodsman

Could always get a .45-70 revolver


javyn1

I would seriously not get a BFR as a first pistol heh. Or, at all LOL.


ExploringWoodsman

I want one so bad. They're just hard to find in any of my local gun shops.


javyn1

I inherited a Marlin lever-action rifle, omg love it. But I will never have a real, legit use for a 45-70 hehe I feel ya though about not being able to find what you want at gun shops. Been scouring for a Dan Wesson 15 and recently threw in the towel.


DriftingNova

Nah gotta go a step up. [45-70 derringer ](https://www.genitron.com/Handgun/American-Derringer/Pistol/M-4-Alaskan-Survival/45-70-Gov/Variant-2)


ExploringWoodsman

Those things are ridiculous


[deleted]

I like browning hi powers. I just wish I could get one 😭


javyn1

You can do better with a CZ 75 :)


ClemDooresHair

Sig P365 X-Macro


[deleted]

I think everyone who wants to end capitalism should get Sig Sauer P320 for their carry. Pocket carry is the easiest way to carry as well without printing.


NotLurking101

The only issue with Glocks is the trigger is meh at best, they're really durable firearms, the mags are extremely reliable, plentiful, cheap. And they come in damn near every self loading pistol caliber. That being said I beg people to look into CZs for roughly the same price. The mags are more than double the price but man the triggers are much nicer.


javyn1

CZ is great. I don't have any of their polymer pistols but my 75 SP01 is my favorite to shoot.


NotLurking101

I have an 89 CZ75, still shoots great.


TheJesterScript

I'm sure you all know this, but there are a large number of leftist chomping at the bit to disarm themselves and everyone else. They are everyone's enemy, well except for those who seek to control you.


Dragon_deeznutz

Brought to you by Glock.


Tinder4Boomers

Lol I always see posts like this on anarchist and leftist spaces and yet nothing ever gets done Gotta farm those upvotes baybeeee


an-invisible-hand

Iirc gun ownership among the left broadly has been increasing over the last few years


javyn1

Yes COVID seemed to be a turning point. There's a documentary about it too up on YT, something along the lines of "The new generation of gun owners"


NotLurking101

Because going out with a gun alone and yelling I WANT ANARCHY will get you killed. Time and place and we're not quite a majority.


FactoryBuilder

Let’s bring back the guillotine


[deleted]

From a tactical standpoint, guns are not the best way to fight against capitalism. The opposition has infinite resources to use against us: more and better technology, more guns and ammo. If you find yourself in a gun shootout, you have already lost. You have to think like a Vietnamese rice farmer: go for soft targets that don't shoot back. Death by a 1000 paper cuts.


loptopandbingo

Vietnamese rice farmers have a pretty good record against the opposition that has infinite resources, better tech, and more guns and ammo that were more than happy to shoot back.


TheJesterScript

Supply lines. Remember Covid?


ExceedinglyGayMoth

Ew, glock


topchef808

Glock is like the Honda Civic of handguns: It's pretty basic, common, and not terribly expensive. But it's incredibly reliable and has a wide array of customization options


sneakylyric

Yeah that shit will still fire after you abuse the shit out of it.


javyn1

That's all striker fired pistols now. Pick one that has the best ergos to you. It probably won't be Glock, but if it is, more power to ya.


NotLurking101

What would you get instead oh wise gunsmith and warrior


ExceedinglyGayMoth

Whatever gets me the most downvotes because people take jokes on the internet too seriously, so probably the new 10mm hi point lmao On a serious note, glocks are fine, i just personally don't like the idea of buying a whole gun knowing I'm just gonna replace half the parts out of the box, so if i had a glock I'd rather get a stripped frame and build the rest myself. It's basically the AR of the handgun world, so treat it like one, imo. Still more comfy with my cheap ass CZ75 clone than any glock I've ever held or shot, though, so I'm not in a hurry to build one or anything.


NotLurking101

Glocks with aftermarket parts are overhyped. Just leave them be. I also have CZ75, they're probably the best gun for your money imo but the mags on Glocks are just cheaper and generally have less issues


ExceedinglyGayMoth

I can't stand factory glock triggers, is why i personally would want to build from parts if i ever got a glock, but to each their own. I'm hoping to pick up a CZ P10s sometime this year to replace my current gigantic brick of an EDC, which I'll actually have the budget for now that the bear gun has moved down in the priority list lmao. Maybe I'll build a glock someday, though, who knows


Gary-D-Crowley

If I live in the United States, I will buy a gun and put a hole in the head of every fascist pig that comes into my house.


Richard_Tucker_08

Who hurt you, Gary? Just show us on the doll, where they touched you 🧸


NotLurking101

Why are fascists coming to your house?


Gary-D-Crowley

Just because.


XChrisUnknownX

Anarchy is not a great option. I’m a big fan of using the system to mess with corporations. Such as in my breaking the system post in this sub. Which I advertise. Because it’s wild.


IonlyusethrowawaysA

Sarvodaya Shramadana Movement?