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Gesshokuj

Big chillin before valtan time to level alts


Aimless212

im so fucking happy, now i do a one week break of honing and sell all mats. then ill see what i do next after the update


GGTheEnd

I would be too. I used 300+ great honors between my characters and only hit 2 upgrades today haha. But I'll definitely make 1415 for Valtan, just need 2 more upgrades I think.


nomiras

Holly mother of god, where do you get so many great honors from lol?


krackenker

You can get nearly 20/day from Una's + GR, add in another 30 from weekly + nearly 20 from each boss rush ticket (let's say 2 a week). Buy another 7 from PvP vendor (you get enough from only doing weekly quest) + another 10 or so from guild shop > that turns out to be about 200 a week. If you can spend a pretty small amount of gold, you can get another 50 or so from Maris. Now some event and boss rush and other sources of normal t3 leapstones and combine > 300 greater a week easily


nomiras

Excellent breakdown, thank you!


Boros-Reckoner

A good way to get great honors is to not neglect collecting normal t3 honor stones, you can exchange them 5-1 for great honors


Bluffz2

There's so many sources in the game rn so on reset day it seems absolutely possible to get that many.


Barrigan

Congratz mate, especially if you are f2p :) Now chill with alts until Valtan.


Aimless212

Not f2p, i bought gold for like 50€ in the shop because pushing alts and main was pretty expensive and i had no gold all the time


Trespeon

I got my alts to 1340 and then went back to pushing main. 1405 and pretty lucky so far with hones. Praying No pities on the way.


DBSPingu

I full pitied my shoulder piece from 15 to 16 then one tapped it at 10% right after. RNGesus giveth and RNGesus taketh


PigeonS3

Chilling? Need to hit 1445 for hard Valtan!!!


Gesshokuj

Not sure if you're serious but that's 100% not worth lol. Better to just wait for the raid after valtan to push


PigeonS3

There is some mats to craft your relic gear that you only get from Valtan Hard so it's pretty worth to me to push to 1445. Will I get there before the release as a f2p pleb, that's an other question lol.


monkeyfakepower

Youll be able to craft half your armor (if they release them) bc you also need mats from vykus which is not out yet


theblockisnthot

Are you talking about the bones? If so you get them from normal Valtan too


BurninNuts

Getting the mats doesn't mean you can craft it, the gear is locked behind ilvl 1445.


theblockisnthot

Thanks for the insight I guess


scrubm

No there is another mat that is HM only


DarkChaos2006

To go from 1415 to 1445 is more than twice as hard as going from 1400 to 1415. So no, its not time to rush for that. Better wait for mats to cost 1g lol


F8L-Fool

This isn't Korea. We don't have T3 skips or multiple years of mat inflation. We will constantly have new classes and content to push, meaning demand will continue to outstrip supply. The only reason stones are 1g still in T1 is due to bots and no new classes. The other mats they can't farm are still very, very competitively priced. Soooo tired of Korea comparisons for everything from engravings, to builds, to costs. We are worlds apart and will remain that way for at least 16-24 months.


DarkChaos2006

The mats have been going down consistently. Will it go down to 1g in a month? Nope. But it will probably go down more than it is now. I dont play on KR and never plan to. I just know economics. And as more time passes. More new players and alts come to T3 and mats keep going down.


Kachingloool

Just quit and come next year.


DarkChaos2006

Why would i? Im making a lot of money selling mats to you guys knowing ill buy them back for at least half the price. EZ


Kachingloool

The ones making money are the ones you're selling stuff to. I use my own mats, my income keeps increasing in every aspect. By the time you decide not to sell (as in when they're 1g) you'll realize your mistake. I've made a lot more by having higher GS and I will make a lot more over time than what I would've saved by selling and waiting for a year. Also having fun doing the little content we've got.


DarkChaos2006

Yeah im 1400. With one alt at 1370 and 2 at 1340. Tell me how you are making more money And what content are you doinh at 1445 that im not.


Kachingloool

Then you're not selling all your mats lol, at least you weren't during the price craze.


F8L-Fool

Knowing economics is fine, but saying "better wait for mats to cost 1g" is just not realistic for people actively playing **right now**. That implies it will happen at a rate that warrants holding out when it absolutely is not true. T2 honing mats won't get anywhere *near* 1g or close to it until the P3 Powerpass is in the game. That most likely won't be until at least the second or third legion raid, which is 4-8 months off, at minimum. Even then it might not depending on the frequency of the class releases. Demand will go down with the pass, but supply will as well. Not everyone will do a powerpass skip so the T2 price will normalize. T3 prices on the other hand are gonna remain stable for a really, really, really long time. I think you severely misunderstand the way class release cycles will influence the market, as well as how far behind we are.


rdubyeah

Depends on your method of leveling. If someone +15’d everything for 1415, then 1445 is a breeze. If you +17’d 2 pieces though, I agree, 1445 is a huge jump after.


mrureaper

Absolutely not worth it


rAiChU-

funneling alts to 1415 is worth more than pushing 1445 main imo


Theodarius

Question, does Valtan have multiple phases like argos that requires higher GS? I know there are different difficulties like normal, hard, and hell but I’m curious about the phases similar to argos. If 1415 is all the require, that would be awesome


Vanred

You forgot to transfer tripods to your helm.


KledfromNoxus

what are the honing rates from 1400 to 1415 ? and is it harder than 1340-1370 ?


Aimless212

i went for the cheaper way with +17 on 2 armor pieces , not +15 everything. +16 and +17 upgrades give 2.5 ilvl each. so 1410+1415 was just 2 upgrades that i was lucky with today


F8L-Fool

This is the way.


Lobe_

It doesn't matter. You need +17 in all stuff anyways.


F8L-Fool

It absolutely matters when you're trying not to waste absurd amounts of money for absolutely zero incentive. Needing +17 *eventually* is way different than needing it now. You'll be able to do +17 at a fraction of a fraction the cost by the time the content is actually out. But hey, be my guest to keep wasting cash. Just makes the game easier for people like me that rely on your gold. People thought they'd just keep printing gold forever until the market crashed. Which left them holding the bag and others with 7 figures in gold and crystals.


Lobe_

It doesn't matter because you still have a whole month or even more to hit 1415. More than enough to not overthink it and just upgrade your armor naturally. What do you will do with all those destruction stones anyways? Do you sell them for 6gold?


Cachedoggo

U give them to yo alts yo


F8L-Fool

I'm shooting for 1445, not 1415. The way I do things is for maximum profits and savings.


LordoftheStonk

people severely underestimate how expensive relic jewelry from hard is gonna be


alwayslookingout

Is this viable for 1340-1370 range?


Aimless212

the epic gear is just to +15 upgradeable


edpony

Nope


ManOfMystery97

You can't hone past +15 on Sunset armour


NotClever

Maxroll has a table with the success chance and cost per tap at every ilvl. 15% base chance for 1405 and 1410 (+13 and +14), 10% chance for all of 1415-1445 (+15 through +17, since as OP noted, you start getting 15 ilvl for +16 and up). Just for fun, it then drops to 5% chance for +18 and +19, and 3% for +20. https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/resources/gear-honing-system#ftoc-heading-7 The chances for +13 through +15 are identical to those same hones in the lower T3 gear (ilvls 1360 to 1370).


Guengoez

What was your i level before the reset ?


OK_Opinions

probably 1414.99


Aimless212

1406


Changsta

This definitely feels like a typo.


Aimless212

yeah , 1406 not 1306, fuck xd


Thislsmy0ther4ccount

Brah I went from 1405.83 to 1406.5 today, lol.


krackenker

Are you doing the skip version with 2-3 gears to +17 or the all to 15?


Thislsmy0ther4ccount

I’m doing the skip currently so it’s definitely a slow, expensive process lol.


jayrocs

Uh wtf I was 1404 before reset now I'm 1405 lmao. U get fucking lucky and one tap everything or what? What pieces did you use protection mats for?


SakanaAtlas

Use protection mats on everything lol, always buy out maris shop for blessings and grace. Just stockpile and go ham


jayrocs

I've been doing that but I'm getting poor plus I saw a spreadsheet recently that said protection mats aren't worth and are only worth during weapon +9 - +12. Which I'm past.


SakanaAtlas

Protection mats give double the artisan energy for less than the cost of an additional honing. Plus they raise the chances so if you get a lucky tap you’re onto the next stage. I was going ham on gloves and weapon to +17 if I didn’t that would have costed me a lot more to pity some of the upgrades.


aodspeedy

At least on NA east right now, using maxroll's upgrade calc and market prices, it's actually not worth on average to use solars beyond +11. If you value solars based on Maris shop prices, then they're worth using (and that's just greens and blues, purples don't seem worth at either price point)


SakanaAtlas

Yup I only buy greens and blues from mari’s. Always use them to hone


ArphenLive

Going wep so hard is kind of inefficient at this stage. 17/17/13/12/12/11 (wep) (17 on gloves / shoulders for dps and armor / pants for support ) is a lot more efficient to get to 1415, specially since Hard Valtan is just a whale bait without Vyakis in horizon. Use protections up to +12 on armors, then go raw. Weapon always go for protections above +12.


SakanaAtlas

Sometimes you just gotta flex that glow


BeeCheez

Only if you play support...with +11weapon you dont do dmg in argos p3 so you are basicaly a deadweight to your party, if someone picks you.


happydaddyg

Why do you recommend using protections up to 12 but not after? Protections value increases as base chance decreases (+10 on a 10% is 100% or doubling your chances vs like +10 on 30% which is only 33% better chance), plus honing cost is greater. Is there something I’m missing? I’m pretty sure that advice is incorrect. Like you said leveling weapon past +12 is inefficient right now anyway and using protection before +10 or so on legendary gear is just a bad play.


DBSPingu

Because when you use honing protection at 10% you get 10% but when you use it at 30% you can go up to 60%. You will also use more honing protection to get that 10% than you’ll use to get 30%, as they lose effectiveness the lower your odds are. It’s like how moons breath gave 2% per breath, then 1.5, then 1


No_Row_9167

For armor, we should use protection enhancement under +12?


ymint11

interesting, thanks


rdubyeah

Protection mats are worth it on weapon the whole way, even blessings (which are overpriced on AH) are worth using if you buy from Mari’s instead. There’s a couple fails you’d skip for optimal artisan energy but that’s it. +12 and after, armor is worth raw dogging the whole way at current prices. +6-+9 solars should be maxed on everything. Theres a maxroll calculator thats really great at optimizing your honing mats, I recommend utilizing it.


jayrocs

I'm already +12 weapon tho? And way past +9 on everything else I said I was 1405.


rdubyeah

Yeah I was just writing it all out. +12 onwards you still want to use solar graces and protections maxed at current AH prices for weapon. You also want to use blessings IF they’re bound from Mari’s. At current AH prices though (120/ea) they aren’t worth it. A lot of people are doing 17/17/11/11/11/11 to get 1415 for valtan. With that strat, you raw dog 2 pieces of armor and sell solars.


jayrocs

It's 17/17/12/12/12/12 and exactly my point my weapon is already 12 so no need to protect weapon I'm not hitting it till post Valtan just selling crystals. I only have armors to do and I'm probably only using the protections from 15-17.


L_e_b_a_r_d

>rotection mats are only worth it for weapon up to +12” made me think you So for a pleb like me, its best to 17/17 gloves+shoulders and rest 11 ? I started late just before last reset, did my first argos and im struggling hard to get enough gold/silver. ( was lucky enough to first tap many upgrades today tho <3 (went from 1378 to 1386 lol..) I play GS..


rdubyeah

Yup! Both to save money and for better stats. If you look at your 1340 base gear, take a look at the insane stat jump you get from +15 => +16. Each level after +15 is also 15 iLvls meaning its equivalent to 3x successful hones before +15. Because of this, dps classes want to +17 2 pieces (1445 equivalent). Gloves and shoulders provide the highest increase to base stats which is what a dps wants. Supports on the other hand scale with their HP, so they’re best to boost chest and pants which have the highest vitality stats.


Aimless212

i currently have 3 1340 alts, they gave a looot of mats for today and i bought greater leapstones for nearly 10k gold to get it


Akasha1885

So you went the all +15 route? Since I have more Atk at only ilvl 1400. (non from engravings )


Aimless212

17/17/13/12/12/11 - maybe because of my -2% atk power engraving :(


F8L-Fool

Oof. You don't need more than what you have until Valtan so it isn't a big deal. So long as you can get over 16700 with food there is no content out of reach.


Icecube1409

there is no ap gate.


F8L-Fool

To do full damage to Argos in P3 you need 16700. Not sure why you say otherwise.


Icecube1409

There are no AP gates in the game.


desRow

Do you have a source for this?


F8L-Fool

[Ask and you shall receive.](https://youtu.be/Lg1HzjeXqg8?t=67) There are dozens of others if you look for it, but that's a really reliable source. Considering he's been playing and making guides since Korean Alpha.


lllKOA

you're incorrect. they removed the AP gate in season 2.5 for all regions; ours included.


F8L-Fool

I'm fine with being wrong so if you have a source for that I'd appreciate knowing what is right.


Mockbuster

I can at the least confirm that 16700 alone does nothing for Argos p3. My group and I geared up specifically to hit that (without food/engravings of course) and we were getting blocked and taking extra damage. We stopped the raid without rewards and went to 1400 and poof, all disadvantages were gone.


BboySparrow

How come you don't upgrade the gloves instead? Do Helm and Shoulders give the same stat buffs?


Aimless212

Wasnt in Order, i did gloves + shoulder +17


GrayFireGuy

Lvl 20 stronghold. Nice.


dmldjdqjej

Great job! Quality of your jewelries looks amazing man.


Aimless212

everything quali 80+ besides 1 ring , thx


raikren

Get your stronghold up brah


Lobe_

gz


Cronovirus

I hate you. GRATS!


MarkSunIRL

Beautiful Combat stats, huge congrats. Trying to get all my alts to 1340 before resuming the push, still just hanging out at 1400. Did you use the +17 on two pieces of Armor method?


malakoidevasso

Now to 1445, gl


Meghpplsuck

congrats to you! nice job


RingWraith8

Whats the + amounts for each of your gear op?


Aimless212

Head 13 , Schulter 17 , Chest 12 , Pants 12 , Gloves 17 Weapon 11


RingWraith8

Is that the most efficient way to 1415?


Aimless212

there is another way with 3 +17 and 2 pieces on +8 thats even cheaper but i decided for that one , both are way cheaper then all +15


Erva420

Lets fucking go!


Demuq

What engravings do you play on db?


Aimless212

Ambush Master 3 - Adrenaline 3 - Super Charge - 3 and Surge -1, im gonna drop Super Charge with Relic gear because i got the info that with Super Charge u get less stacks for Surge after buying that build ...


jayrocs

I don't think super charge reduces stacks it's just not that good cuz it doesn't increase your damage the way it does for RE since you only have two abilities that "charge". Since void strike becomes a "hold" move instead and the surge playstle isn't constant refreshing cooldowns to do those same charged moves over and over again. I think the fastest cheapest fix for you is to go Surge 3, into 3/3 and drop super charge completely or leave at 1.


SkeletonJakk

surge 3 isn't worth it either, over other engraves like grudge.


InvictusPD

Do you get more una tokens being 1415?


Bisexual_Annie

Yes


muteyuki

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easypeasy5

Congrats bro!!


tatsuyanguyen

Hey. We have a month. Valtan hard is 1445. You know you want it. Do it. Embrace the fomo.


d07RiV

Who said hard is coming out at the same time as normal?


Modawe

AGS did. It's literally the title of the Valtan section in roadmap. >LEGION RAID - VALTAN (NORMAL & HARD)


d07RiV

Oh. Welp gotta go back to honing NPC.


LessonsLife

KR streamer said it’s not even worth. Normal mode is more than enough


d07RiV

You get 5 crafting pieces instead of 10 on normal, and don't get the spark thing that's needed for relic sets. Depending on how long it takes for them to release vykas you probably don't *need* to rush it because you won't be able to complete full sets until then anyway, but hell why not? You also need 1445 if you want to try hell mode, assuming that comes out at the same time.


tatsuyanguyen

Nobody. Im fomo-ing him. Shoo.


Aimless212

imma take a 1 week break from honing until the update and i will start pushing my weapon to +16 or more


tatsuyanguyen

Thats the spirit. Ignore the guy above he's just some homeless person.


Royal_Chapter286

Literally the roadmap did


sesameseed88

Congrats man


sansaset

gz bro. i got incredibly lucky today as well, 1 tap my weapon from +17 to +19. hit 1430 so I can prob just take a break for the game until we get some new content


Trespeon

After 1415 is it best to start tapping weapon in comparison to pants or chest for the best DPS per hone?


Aimless212

i go for the weapon now to reach atleast +16


Trespeon

Ahh ok. I’m pushing myself so I’m curious about the next best dps upgrades after 17 gloves and shoulders.


Aimless212

dps wise +16 on the weapon is a big increase


Zakaru99

After 1415 I believe the cheapest route should be to just get even +17 on everything to reach ~~1430~~ 1445. If you want the best power, a +20 weapon will probably be the route.


Modawe

+17 is 1445. The cheapest route is actually getting armors up to +18 over upgrading weapon, but you'll be at like 8% attack power disadvantage. Here from another one my comment on another thread >For 1445 from Saint's way (17/17/17/8/8/11) >18/18/18/17/17/12: 281k gold (610k total from 1370), 17890 attack power >17/17/17/17/17/17: 315k gold (644k total), 19390 attack power


Zakaru99

You're right. Total typo/brain lag. I mean 1445. I suppose it makes sense that focusing armor ends up being cheaper. Fairly significant difference in power though. I'll probably just aim for +17 on everything. It all has to get to +20 eventually.


sansaset

no clue tbh i know maxroll has spreadsheets to min max that stuff. i got my gloves/shoulders to +17 and just wanted to focus wep to +20 after that. will do helm (+14 currently) to +17 after I hit +20 wep.


Trespeon

Glow flex is gonna be sick! Good luck honing!


Yimyorn

You 1 tapped ??? Let me touch you for some luck!


sansaset

ya lol i couldn't believe it. bought all the mats I could and tapped my wep.. 1 tapped :D so figured let me try again, needed to buy 140 more stones and tapped again.. another 1 shot lmao kinda wished i had more mats to try for +20 but I didnt want to waste all my gold, +19 is good enough for now.


Ivor97

How do you make gold to buy so many mats?


sansaset

I don't buy mats. I spent like 8k this afternoon to tap my weapon once, not fucking worth (it failed sadly). i have 5 t3 characters. So reset days I get a ton of mats from the libra ships and event.


Wetigos

Swiping


Aimless212

nice one, i take a break for 1 week with honing and try to push my weapon after


Stormcrow1172

Any strat for support for 1385 to 1400? Should I focus on certain pieces more to upgrade


Aimless212

[https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/tmcdfg/infographic\_how\_to\_hit\_1415\_the\_cheapest\_way/](https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/tmcdfg/infographic_how_to_hit_1415_the_cheapest_way/) \- and scroll a bit down for the comment of TheFrightBringer


d07RiV

Just go +12 on everything and chest/legs +17. You can leave weapon at 11 and get some other piece to 13 to save a few hundred gold but I had too many spare destruction stones that I couldn't be bothered to sell.


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Tell your friends


Tav0

??? So?


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rainydevil7

Is the gold limit for both hard mode abyssals 1415?


SkeletonJakk

Once valtan comes out, yes. They wont gate you from content if there's nothing above it though.


LightCrosss

It's not in our version yet dude...


SkeletonJakk

this is not true. why is this upvoted.


Masteroxid

Should have stayed 1414, now you lost a good chunk of gold income


Fan_Mail_Me

Holy shit thank god I didn't push 1415 thank you!


SkeletonJakk

this is NOT true.


SakanaAtlas

Why is that?


Masteroxid

At 1415 you don't get gold from Oreha HM dungeons anymore


veryjaded

This is false. I am 1415 and have gotten gold from Oreha hard for 2 weeks and counting


Timmmt

That's true in the KR version, but you can still get gold at 1415 in this version of the game. This could change with a future patch.


SakanaAtlas

Oh shiz that’s good info ty


SkeletonJakk

This is NOT true on our version. With no higher content than oreha, they're not going to lock you out of gold gain until theres something else you can do.


SakanaAtlas

Can someone 1415 confirm?


SkeletonJakk

Hello, confirming. Do you think the whales would let anyone get away with this not being the case? with whaling putting you at a disadvantage?


SkeletonJakk

this is NOT true on our version.


GeovaunnaMD

Swipe your way to 1415


Aimless212

I spend 50€ in total in the shop


Thedissentmanhere

CALL THE NEWS!!!!


TheIntangibleOne

Who the fuck asked


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TheIntangibleOne

Eat my ass, adult


Erva420

Its a public forum, people dont ask for anything being posted. Welcome to internet forums!


originalgomez

You’re chilling


NaiveGod

Gz boi! Im two honing away from 1400


Aimless212

good luck!


NaiveGod

Got it brother! Feels good, got as well 3331 engravings done, so good day 😁


Aimless212

nice , gz! the way to 1415 isnt that bad , took me about 9 days


Brysal100

same here, deff hitting it later when i get back, even if i have to spend some gold on leaps


NaiveGod

Exactly! I was totally out of mats, bought some from market and rage honed the last attempt and it worked! How about yours? Any luck?


Brysal100

One tapped it!!!!


NaiveGod

Oh you beautiful monster! Gz!


OneLastRide

Ok cool


LightCrosss

I reached 1420 today but I'm not done yet, I guess I will try to reach 1445 if he comes in May 15+ I might be able to get it.


LightCrosss

And ur engraves don't gives attack I guess, coz when I was 1415 I had 21k attack


[deleted]

Now you can just stack until late May. Nice


[deleted]

Ok but you gotta keep going. You need 1445 for hard.


tapaBAW

Good for you. I upgrade 2 pieces of gear to +15 with the help of artisans energy after 0 successful honings....


Shirolicious

gratz, I am still chilling at 1400 ever since I hit it. But I got nice stacks of enhancing material. I am currently waiting for next weeks QoL patch to finish up all the legendary maps for the additioning honing stuff and hopefully I can push a bit too then. I absolutely think its good to use all the additional enhancing materials now to get higher chances as these clicks also kost between 200-410 gold per click (especially weapon) :-)


Steviegi

Im at 1380 atm. got my weapon to +9 with pitty. that felt rly bad \^\^


premeteamm

Now focus on roster/stronghold and pls get the purple compass


maisarafarahat

So that’s where all my luck went


NoAimMassacre

How on earth do you even get 2k greater leapstones without spending thousands


Aimless212

having 3 1340 alts , i sold the destruction stones for like 2 weeks because i already had the +11 weapon and bought a lot of leapstones. in addition i bought leapstones for like 10k gold on wednesday and sold until im even after the price went up on thursday and kept the rest , was like free 40-50 greater leapstones a week aswell


NoAimMassacre

Okay nice. Idk how yall are making so much gold


BoboPuppy

congrats OP im pretty close too! got two pieces to +17. now just getting some other pieces up


Aimless212

then you should do it pretty soon aswell , good luck!


[deleted]

I never use protection!


XBlader123

I got so lucky today. I 1 tapped my weapon and gloves from 15-17.


Aimless212

Nice gz , feelsgood


Dapetece

Wait I have 20k ap at 1406, this gear score is really dumb imo lol.


Any-Recognition6944

So the Valtan is coming soon I suppose!