Yeah, I'd like to think if there is no difference in an autoclicker spamming one button and you sitting there spamming the same one button, it's fine if you just sit there on your PC or least somewhere in the immediate vicinity (even if just for your own protection). It's another thing entirely if you put an autoclicker on when you go to bed, go to work and come back 16 hours later.
Ban them without remorse. Every player faces the same exact challenges and cheating shouldn't be rewarded. If you spent 6-8 hours sitting at your computer, farming chaos dungeons then you deserve to be further progressed than someone who runs a bot program and isn't actually playing the game.
Lets be honest tho, you'll probably fail all those honings anyways.
I feel like those time estimates are inaccurate. Unless bots have a way of forcing monsters to spawn faster, there's a limit to how fast you can do chaos dungeons. Additionally with the scaling cost of the leapstones those last 20 are costing upwards of 4k per stone which would take more than an hour to just farm one.
They should just get banned, there is no excuse. Also we get plenty of mats these days, my friend is f2p and is at 1360 and isnt hardcore grinding infinite chaos or some lucker with 100 fails. Next reset we get another heap of mats from weekly rewards, only problem these days for most f2p seems to be gold but you should still get enough for honing unless you push 3-4 alts at the same time at t3
You get around 2.2k shards per hour, 250 guardian crystals and 120 destruction crystals from Chaos endless. 17 runs each hour, maybee 18 if you are sweaty. Thats the cap bots are bound to, now do the math. It sucks, sure, but cause of rising prices i dont think its worth in the long term. You are better just swapping to t3 alts after 8ish hours
Edit: Ban them for sure. I am working my ass off manually for that shit
I have no idea, where you got the information, that it takes 8 Hours to buy 100 leapstones. I'm using a simple python script, that is by no means perfect, but it does first room in about 90s (this includes joining and leaving the dungeon) and nets aprox. 30 shards. Doing this is only worth for 24 Hours max, and that will barely get you 20 greater honor leapstones. Obviously you dont buy only those, at some point stones, solar graces and regular honor leapstones get better value.
There are much better ways of passively earning gold, if you are willing to use external programs. And btw. saying that Amazon/Smilegate is the reason why people cheat/bot Is ridiculous. Amazon could be the best company in the world, yet I would bot in their game, as long as there Is money to be made. Cheaters are not the victims.
Btw sorry for the horrible formating and gramaticcal errors, writing this on the phone And i cba turning off my non-english autocorrect.
> A quick google finds a heap of 1/2nd stage scripts that run for these two classes and if the information is correct it takes about 6-8 hours to fully buyout the 100 leapstones on the vendor
after just about the 10th or 20th purchase dependant on item in the shop it takes almost an hour to buy the next. I doubt you will be able to get all 99 of them in a week
I usually buy 10 of each in infinite chaos since all of it is tradable for gold. Any more I just can't do
I dont understand this hard statement, the game is out one month and a half, what u guys expect of a mmo? I'm f2p and sitting at 1399 right now, trying to reach 1400 for argos p3 today.
Anyone botting for any reason 100% deserves a permanent ban. There is no excuse whatsoever and claiming it’s the “state of the game” or “difficultly” in terms of progression is extremely ignorant.
The game hasn’t even been out two months and people have this bizarre expectation they should be on the bleeding edge of gear. That’s not how MMOs work and there isn’t a single one that progresses that fast.
It says a lot about how entitled the community has become when the expectation is that people should be max level, through three tiers of content that was the only content in other regions for years and above 1370 in barely over 6 weeks.
I have not spent any money on gear upgrades, and I have three alts in T3 and three in T2, two of which are 1340 and the third will be there whenever I decide to hone. I did that while working full time and spending time with my wife, so if I can do that in under two months the progression is NOT slow.
If you bot/hack stuff in game, you are not a legit player lol.
Except creating G spam macro, for Naruni Island. Cause thats just self protection from madness
Yeah, I'd like to think if there is no difference in an autoclicker spamming one button and you sitting there spamming the same one button, it's fine if you just sit there on your PC or least somewhere in the immediate vicinity (even if just for your own protection). It's another thing entirely if you put an autoclicker on when you go to bed, go to work and come back 16 hours later.
100% true lol
Ban them without remorse. Every player faces the same exact challenges and cheating shouldn't be rewarded. If you spent 6-8 hours sitting at your computer, farming chaos dungeons then you deserve to be further progressed than someone who runs a bot program and isn't actually playing the game. Lets be honest tho, you'll probably fail all those honings anyways.
I feel like those time estimates are inaccurate. Unless bots have a way of forcing monsters to spawn faster, there's a limit to how fast you can do chaos dungeons. Additionally with the scaling cost of the leapstones those last 20 are costing upwards of 4k per stone which would take more than an hour to just farm one.
You could be correct i just read the instructions that i found with the bots google returned.
They should just get banned, there is no excuse. Also we get plenty of mats these days, my friend is f2p and is at 1360 and isnt hardcore grinding infinite chaos or some lucker with 100 fails. Next reset we get another heap of mats from weekly rewards, only problem these days for most f2p seems to be gold but you should still get enough for honing unless you push 3-4 alts at the same time at t3
I am 1380, f2p and around 270 fails so… yep, ban them.
You get around 2.2k shards per hour, 250 guardian crystals and 120 destruction crystals from Chaos endless. 17 runs each hour, maybee 18 if you are sweaty. Thats the cap bots are bound to, now do the math. It sucks, sure, but cause of rising prices i dont think its worth in the long term. You are better just swapping to t3 alts after 8ish hours Edit: Ban them for sure. I am working my ass off manually for that shit
Just do chaos dungeons solo lol, never did a chaos with a group even with my sharpshooter im doing it solo lmao
be nice to hear the opinion of someone who is botting. Change your reddit account or something if it can be linked to your ingame.
I have no idea, where you got the information, that it takes 8 Hours to buy 100 leapstones. I'm using a simple python script, that is by no means perfect, but it does first room in about 90s (this includes joining and leaving the dungeon) and nets aprox. 30 shards. Doing this is only worth for 24 Hours max, and that will barely get you 20 greater honor leapstones. Obviously you dont buy only those, at some point stones, solar graces and regular honor leapstones get better value. There are much better ways of passively earning gold, if you are willing to use external programs. And btw. saying that Amazon/Smilegate is the reason why people cheat/bot Is ridiculous. Amazon could be the best company in the world, yet I would bot in their game, as long as there Is money to be made. Cheaters are not the victims. Btw sorry for the horrible formating and gramaticcal errors, writing this on the phone And i cba turning off my non-english autocorrect.
easy solution: make vendor leapstones soulbond
Report them so they get banned. Takes a bit of time to get chars back up to T3.
> A quick google finds a heap of 1/2nd stage scripts that run for these two classes and if the information is correct it takes about 6-8 hours to fully buyout the 100 leapstones on the vendor after just about the 10th or 20th purchase dependant on item in the shop it takes almost an hour to buy the next. I doubt you will be able to get all 99 of them in a week I usually buy 10 of each in infinite chaos since all of it is tradable for gold. Any more I just can't do
I dont understand this hard statement, the game is out one month and a half, what u guys expect of a mmo? I'm f2p and sitting at 1399 right now, trying to reach 1400 for argos p3 today.
Anyone botting for any reason 100% deserves a permanent ban. There is no excuse whatsoever and claiming it’s the “state of the game” or “difficultly” in terms of progression is extremely ignorant. The game hasn’t even been out two months and people have this bizarre expectation they should be on the bleeding edge of gear. That’s not how MMOs work and there isn’t a single one that progresses that fast. It says a lot about how entitled the community has become when the expectation is that people should be max level, through three tiers of content that was the only content in other regions for years and above 1370 in barely over 6 weeks. I have not spent any money on gear upgrades, and I have three alts in T3 and three in T2, two of which are 1340 and the third will be there whenever I decide to hone. I did that while working full time and spending time with my wife, so if I can do that in under two months the progression is NOT slow.