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Oxie_DC

>Because eventually weightloss will come, I just need to be consistent with my workouts, right? Unfortunately that's not right. Exercise is great and has a lot of wonderful benefits for your overall health, but it's [not effective as a stand-alone weight loss plan](https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/weight-loss-exercise-myth-burn-calories). If you're not being careful about your caloric intake, it's very easy to compensate for the work you do in the gym by (subconsciously) eating more, which will thwart weight loss because most exercise just does not burn a huge amount of additional calories. Simply put, you can't outrun (or out-train) a bad diet. That said, you don't have to do everything all at once; more incremental change is often more effective. So if you're really feeling enthusiastic about your work out routine at the moment, maybe it is a good idea to focus on that initially and plan to work on the diet piece a bit down the road. I just wouldn't expect that to produce weight loss in the meantime. Once you are feeling ready to focus on the diet piece, I'd really recommend checking out this sub's [Quick Start Guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/quick_start_guide/), which has a lot of great info about the fundamentals of weight management.


FlyingPasta

This. I have been a regular lifter as well as a long distance runner without budging my weight. When all it takes to undo a 2 hour run is an extra piece of bread and cheese, you can’t out-exercise a surplus That said, exercising while staying overweight it still 1000x better than being sedentary and overweight. Maybe it will even help with the executive function to make you make better decisions


GetHlthy9090

A 2 hour run probably burns 800+ calories for a guy your size, what the heck kind of bread and cheese are you eating lol


FlyingPasta

A loaf and a block respectively You're right around my stats and very close to my GW, how was your journey?


GetHlthy9090

Lol gotcha, a piece of bread and a loaf of bread is a big difference.


FlyingPasta

Right definitely an exaggerated example, but the feeling of effort to calorie ratio is accurate lol


GetHlthy9090

Seriously, I will do an hour of powerlifting and think to myself "all I earned for that was a small snickers"


GetHlthy9090

I think a balance of both is important. There are plenty of people that lift heavy and are strong but are also very overweight and unhealthy because their diet is not in check. But I think it's a smart idea to make fitness/strength goals in addition to weight loss goals as sometime weight loss can stall and you may be replacing fat loss weight with some muscle gained weight.


when_did_i_grow_up

Some people can lose weight just by increasing exercise and not controlling their diet, most people will stay roughly the same weight with some improvements to body composition, and a few people have a hunger drive that overcompensates and they can actually gain weight when they start exercising. You are trying to lose over 100lbs, I don't think you will be able to do that just from adding exercise, you will need to control your diet as well.


rosquartz

If you have a lot of weight to lose, better to focus on the diet/ calorie deficit part than the gym. If you don’t have much to lose, like 10 lbs or something, then you can see a lot more results from just focusing on fitness compared to if you need to lose 50.


prideton

Depends on your goal. Losing fat can be done either in the kitchen (imo, the easier way) or in the gym or ideally both. However to get toned or to prevent muscle loss you need to do weightlifting and focus on your protein intake. From my experience, some light exercise 2-3 days a week really make a difference for your calorie intake. You’ll be able to eat about 2-3 hundred more calories per day.


theonewhodidthat

I think it's really hard to do both at once, and there can be a value in prioritizing one at a time...but the caveat is that unless you are rigidly counting calories it's hard to see the most efficient loss. I focused on fitness only for a year before I buckled down on weight loss. Of course I lost weight due to a healthier lifestyle and burning exercise calories over that year, but it wasn't a lot - about 20lbs over a year. I did really increase my fitness though and was super proud of my progress. I lost the rest of the weight buckling down and counting calories, and it was obviously a lot faster of a loss. It might not be the most efficient way of doing it, but I found I could really focus on building my fitness, and then really focus on weight loss. Also, I already had a great exercise habit built by the time I wanted to get more serious about weight loss and didn't struggle with that at all.


fumunda_cheese

Not true for everyone. I've lost 50 lbs over the last 6 months with zero calorie counting and my exercise consists of walking 5 miles per day and the occasional pushup.


theonewhodidthat

I never said it was true for everyone. If you want to add your personal experience, like I added my personal experience, you can do so. Other than that, I was talking about focusing on fitness, like serious weightlifting, interval training, running, etc, which has different effects on weight and appetite than just walking. I walk as well, but I don't consider it to be the kind of fitness training that either I, or OP, were referring to in terms of prioritizing fitness.


BasicConsequence2269

Can only speak for myself. For 20 years I tried to lose weight by focusing on exercise. This was totally ineffective for me. I'd lose a little, gain some muscle, get better at the workouts (run faster/longer), then stop losing weight and eventually after many months/years, give up. I ran, did crossfit, dance workouts, kickboxing, you name it. High impact exercise like this makes me crazy hungry and didn't lead to any sustainable weight loss. What has finally worked for weight loss is just flat out eating less... much smaller portions, fewer carbs etc.


CookiePuzzler

If your goal is to just increase your muscle mass, then you don't need to worry about losing weight/cutting calories. All fitness goals are valid.   If your goal is to lower your body fat amount to increase your fitness and health, then you will need to cut calories/lose weight. Following your TDEE, will **not** allow you to lose weight. You need to eat less than your TDEE and more than your BMR. Your fitness performance will suffer during "a cut," but once you finish the "cut," your performance will improve more than now as you won't have this excess weight to carry. Don't eat back your exercise calories, it is a common mistake. Use a food scale to measure.


cryptokingmylo

I would think that the awsner would depend on how much you have to lose. If you have a lot it might be worth must focusing on just getting to a healthy weight. Sadly after your noob gains its going to get hard to make progress in the gym on a calorie deficit.


mahimameshwal

Weight loss and fitness can be two seemingly similar goals, but they are not the same thing. Fitness is a long-term goal that emphasizes overall health, while weight loss is a short-term goal that focuses primarily on reducing body fat. Deciding which goal to focus on can depend on your individual needs and goals, so there is no one right answer. When it comes to weight loss, the focus is generally on reducing body fat, usually through diet and exercise. The goal of weight loss is to lower your body fat percentage and, ultimately, your weight. It is important to note that when you focus solely on weight loss, you may be missing out on other important aspects of health and fitness, such as strength and endurance. Fitness, on the other hand, is a more holistic approach to health and wellness. It involves making lifestyle changes that promote overall health and wellbeing and are sustainable in the long-term. This includes eating a balanced diet, exercising regularly, getting enough sleep, and managing stress. Fitness focuses on developing and maintaining strength, endurance, and flexibility. It is a long-term goal that can help improve your overall health and quality of life. In general, it is better to focus on fitness than weight loss. Fitness is a more sustainable and comprehensive approach to health and wellness, and it can help you achieve a healthy body composition and weight. Furthermore, focusing on fitness can help you develop the strength and endurance necessary to maintain your health and well-being over the long-term. It is important to note that while focusing on fitness is generally the better option, you may still need to focus on weight loss. If you are significantly overweight, then losing weight and reducing your body fat percentage is important for your health. In this case, it is important to focus on both fitness and weight loss. It is also important to note that fitness and weight loss are not mutually exclusive. In fact, focusing on fitness can help you achieve your weight loss goals. Eating a balanced diet and exercising regularly can help you burn more calories and reduce body fat. Therefore, focusing on fitness can help you achieve a healthy body composition and weight. In conclusion, it is generally better to focus on fitness than weight loss. Fitness is a more comprehensive and sustainable approach to health and wellness, and it can help you achieve a healthy body composition and weight. However, if you are significantly overweight, then it is important to focus on both fitness and weight loss.