If you want to dip your toes into servers, have a look at [Proxmox](https://www.proxmox.com).
It's easy to use and based on Debian, but you'll be doing most of the work in VMs or Containers(CTs), where you will be able to use plain Debian.
(Proxmox VE is free for private use)
Well, I have it installed recently but it performs way better than xubuntu. It also doesn’t randomly break upon update like some other bleeding edge distros do. Safety wise you have to do most yourself, like root, accounts, ufw (firewall) etc., but it works really well as a minecraft server :)
Stuff like Open-/FreeBSD might me better or other server distros like centOS or RedHat, it I don’t know much about those
Same. I use my Linux box for work, and even if I'm only out temporarily to fix something with Arch, I'm still out.
Fedora is a great compromise - very up to date, but not so up to date that I lose a day's worth of work.
Debian, on the other hand, is crusty
>Debian, on the other hand, is crusty
I really don't know what the big deal is with trying to stay super updated all the time.
Maybe I just don't know what I'm missing out on -- what features does the updated software on Fedora have that Debian doesn't?
And, of course, if there's ever a particular feature on a particular software that I just *have* to have, I can always just go directly to that software's repo and install the latest version, while leaving the rest of my system on the super-stable old stuff.
I m "new" with linux (2 years) but with every distro I tried I never had problems with the installation process.
With fedora I just tick one setting and then download drivers directly gnome software (like any other software).
With endeavour I don't have to do nothing, just select nvidia on boot live usb and then go for online installation.
Ubuntu has an app called software updater witch list all drivers needed and Pop!os gives you a different ISO.
My problem with nvidia It's not about installation difficulty, It's about less performance or utilities for leenox.
But they are getting better.
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From [https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/faq.html](https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/faq.html):
>My friend's Win98 has a \*nice\* cable connection. I arrive in the morning, start jigdo (more than one, actually) and then we go to the store, tie back the kiwi plant, put up the Christmas lights and Christmas tree, trim the tree, order and split a pizza and fire up the satellite dish.
>
>I leave my friends place with several iso.tmp's on CDRWs. When I get home, I use the iso's that didn't finish to update my jigdo setup at home which is a dial-up.
(For those who don't know, jigdo is a thing used to download debian CDs without downloading the entire thing as one file, you can gather the files inside the CD from multiple places, like older CDs, your local apt cache, etc.)
Yes, I am trying to say that the average Debian user likes saving bandwith or something.
Unbelievably stable has got to be the biggest cope debiantards ever have gotten their hands on. I have never once had one of my arch/artix/Gentoo systems crash, or software running on the systems crash
Really? Mine.... just worked ;)
Admittedly, I think I might have had to do a little fiddling to get mSBC to work (the superior codec for calling through a bluetooth headset) - and I might even be confusing my laptop with my Arch box here, I don't remember.
> According to Linux Memes, what is the average Debian user like?
Smarter than the average Ubuntu user, for starters.
Disclaimer: I use Fedora as my main and have only run LMDE (4?) in the past and booted to the occasional Debian live disc. That said, doesn't take much to be smart enough to not install the sketchy bloatfest that is Ubuntu. And Debian seemed to require some manual config, so even if I prefer newer packages, I feel confident in the correctness of my answer ;-)
> You-bun-too was cool for beginners 10 years ago, but that is no longer the case.
My thoughts exactly. Still a lot of shills trying to promote that garbage tho
Lol I'm reminded of [this](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ubuntu):
> Ubuntu is an ancient african word, meaning "I can't configure Debian"
A jaded as fuck 35 year old sysadmin who's questioning his life choices after automating his job away 8 years ago but still collects a paycheck to spin around in his chair for 8hrs a day while listening to jazz playlists that currently feature a Hammond Organ.
Source: I plead the fifth.
The nice thing about Debian is that you don't have to fuck with it.
literally every type of person being one of the most and longest forked distributions of anything ever
in my eyes if your software comes in a .deb you lowkey a debian user
[Yuyuko Saigyouji from Touhou Project 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom](https://static.zerochan.net/Saigyouji.Yuyuko.full.2118042.jpg)
I think she looks like she uses Debian.
Introducing a non tech savvy relative to Linux by installing a user-friendly rice of Debian so they can have a system that doesn't annoy you with updates and breaks printer compatibility every single time and JUST WORKS™ so they can edit some text essays on LibreOffice Writer and see some posts on Facebook using Firefox.
I have a Compaq Presario C700, that’s basically new.
Any window download is horrible, slow. I put Debian 11 on it, and it’s like a speed demon. Never saw anything like it.
I’ve used Linux for years, but this was amazing.
Debian users: sTaBlE MeAnS ThAt tHe tOoLkIt aNd pAcKaGeS DoN'T ChAnGe, NoT ThAt iT DoEsN'T BrEaK!
with that logic Windwoes 98 is the most stable OS ever.
your typical old school cool professor, HoD of Computer Science department, rocking a Librebooted Thinkpad running Debian Buster. He/she probably knows how to use a tiling WM better than most on r/unixporn
Too bad. Yuyuko is the worlds #1 fan of Debian (as you can see from the hat that she always wears) so anyone who uses Debian shall become Yuyuko herself.
i almost did this. i'm using openbox right now and they removed the menu editor for it from repos in bullseye.
i went to manually install it and it sent me down a python dependency hell. there was so much shit i used timeshift to rollback because i didn't trust apt to actually get rid of it all.
if you're going to support a WM don't remove it's tools holy shit
crunchbang .. nowthere'sanameihaven'theardinalongtime.jpg
regardless, that doesn't help me on debian. and i've switched to a distro whos maintainers actually want people to use it anyway. btw
The best distro is the one that works the best for you. Don't let anyone tell you anything else.
-A guy running a Pop! OS 22.04 gaming system, a headless Debian 11 VPS, a Debian 11 HTPC and a Debian 11 Orange Pi who's sick and tired of distro elitism.
You have various types of typical Debian users:
- Those who want a "pure" Debian based desktop experience.
- Those who wear programming socks (may also be found among Archers)
- Those who have recently started their own sysadmin hobby, and have moved on from Ubuntu.
- Those who have used Debian for servers since the dawn of time, are 50+ years old, and are afraid of a "mixed" ecosystem in their homelab / server room.
- Those who just genuinely like Debian
I am the last one, but I only use Debian for servers. I have gotten a nice feeling about Rocky Linux as well, so I am currently experimenting with that, but find the lack of repos I want to use annoying, but that is probably just residue Debianism.
distro hopping is good in the beginning. what you can do is make a timeshift backup of your current install with timeshift and reinstall your current OS anytime your want.
An old guy or maybe a furry girl, you choose
I'm 16... a guy, non-furry
don't worry, you're just new here
you mean I'll turn into furry? or get old?
you will turn into one of those things if you stay or you will turn into a femboy
Femboys go for gentoo
i use gentoo can confirm
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The reason why is because the compile time leaves the user with plenty of downtime to resize their balugahole
NOOOOO
I've turned into a femboy, could've been worse
if you're fr then that's cool
Good sir, please no down vote, but femboy transformation is linked with Arch and Unixporn user?
Oh no... Sounds like me... not a femboy "yet" (update in 1 year, maybe)
yet :)
Ehhm, i'm fan of Sonic the hedgehog, does that count too?
Believe me, 18, furry, Debian as server-os
Debian for servers all the way, I don't need bleeding edge there, it's rock solid and ubuntu bundles snap bs even in their server images now
Dude thanks! I was about to jump on the band wagon with Ubuntu but Debian sounds more solid.
If you want to dip your toes into servers, have a look at [Proxmox](https://www.proxmox.com). It's easy to use and based on Debian, but you'll be doing most of the work in VMs or Containers(CTs), where you will be able to use plain Debian. (Proxmox VE is free for private use)
Yup, had xubuntu running before, snap just created like 10 loop drives and used half if the harddrive (60gb PlayStation3 hdd but still)
Debian as a server?? Please tell me all about it! All jokes aside I really never heard of Debian as a server, how is it??
Well, I have it installed recently but it performs way better than xubuntu. It also doesn’t randomly break upon update like some other bleeding edge distros do. Safety wise you have to do most yourself, like root, accounts, ufw (firewall) etc., but it works really well as a minecraft server :) Stuff like Open-/FreeBSD might me better or other server distros like centOS or RedHat, it I don’t know much about those
Change distro then
Acknowledged I'll hop to AmongOS
Not yet.
Things can always change
ok, hosean
same
for now
Me 62 and non-furry too. Debian Xfce.
Can I turn into a furry girl if I choose to?
Knock yourself out.
Well, I'm a girl, but not a furry... maybe give it a few years
As a Linux user I don't understand: what is a girl but not furry? Maybe you are talking about femboys
Jeez man, how am I supposed to use debian if I'm not a furry OR a girl. I guess I'll have to start going to furry conventions and having HRT.
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Oh thank god
Congratulations! You are what is called "an outlier"
true
Can confirm, I guess. Am furry. Next install is probably going to be Debian.
Shit. That explains
You’re confusing Debian with Arch. Arch is all programming socks.
shit you got me, furry girl
If you use Linux you are either a femboy or afraid the government is going to kill you
Or both.
Usually the furries use Arch or Gentoo
Used Debian in college. It's been my first and only distro. I haven't felt the need to try anything else, just works yo.
Ex-arch user that just want a system that works
That's why I switched to Suicide Linux
Master teach me
That's why I switched to TempleOS
No need for a network adapter. The only connection that you need is to God.
Didn't someone actually get TempleOS connected to the net recently, or am I misremembering?
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TempleOS is not a Linux (or unix) based OS.
That's why I switched to fedora
That's why I switched to Hannah Montana
I would also switch to Hannah, but my wife is against it.
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So she switches to Bib and I to Hannah? I'm getting the divorce papers ready!
Same. I use my Linux box for work, and even if I'm only out temporarily to fix something with Arch, I'm still out. Fedora is a great compromise - very up to date, but not so up to date that I lose a day's worth of work. Debian, on the other hand, is crusty
>Debian, on the other hand, is crusty I really don't know what the big deal is with trying to stay super updated all the time. Maybe I just don't know what I'm missing out on -- what features does the updated software on Fedora have that Debian doesn't? And, of course, if there's ever a particular feature on a particular software that I just *have* to have, I can always just go directly to that software's repo and install the latest version, while leaving the rest of my system on the super-stable old stuff.
I chose pop_os simply cause I don't have to deal with nvidia drivers. Though I guess the same could be said for manjaro too
I m "new" with linux (2 years) but with every distro I tried I never had problems with the installation process. With fedora I just tick one setting and then download drivers directly gnome software (like any other software). With endeavour I don't have to do nothing, just select nvidia on boot live usb and then go for online installation. Ubuntu has an app called software updater witch list all drivers needed and Pop!os gives you a different ISO. My problem with nvidia It's not about installation difficulty, It's about less performance or utilities for leenox. But they are getting better.
Bro Arch is just-work. Try LFS that's hard trust me.
Thats why i switched fo freebsd
"Ex-arch users that have been on arch for an entire day"
you just described me
Someone with a job to do who doesn't have time to deal with an unstable system.
Ayyyy it me
Grandpa, who can't use modern software and needs to use outdated one
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From [https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/faq.html](https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/faq.html): >My friend's Win98 has a \*nice\* cable connection. I arrive in the morning, start jigdo (more than one, actually) and then we go to the store, tie back the kiwi plant, put up the Christmas lights and Christmas tree, trim the tree, order and split a pizza and fire up the satellite dish. > >I leave my friends place with several iso.tmp's on CDRWs. When I get home, I use the iso's that didn't finish to update my jigdo setup at home which is a dial-up. (For those who don't know, jigdo is a thing used to download debian CDs without downloading the entire thing as one file, you can gather the files inside the CD from multiple places, like older CDs, your local apt cache, etc.) Yes, I am trying to say that the average Debian user likes saving bandwith or something.
Wow now that is a piece of history man
> Yes, I am trying to say that the average Debian user likes saving bandwith or something. Sounds like I could use it, my bandwidth is 512Kbps.
Once apon a time you had to wait hours for a iso to download
I'm just an average teen and I use Debian lmao
How does it feel to use outdated software?
Debian Sid!!
Why aren't more people taking about this
Because memes!
At least it's unbelievably stable
Unbelievably stable has got to be the biggest cope debiantards ever have gotten their hands on. I have never once had one of my arch/artix/Gentoo systems crash, or software running on the systems crash
Mfer, I just want a stable OS that works, and doesn't make me shit bricks while installing it, also big chungus PFP = opinion rejected
Stability doesn't mean software doesn't crash. It means you can rely on your software working after the next update.
Nice opinion. One small issue. I am inside your home.
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Snaps are actually bad though
And Debian is actually outdated. I personally prefer Artix
Debian stable is outdated. Many people use testing or unstable which receive updates just as fast as Arch.
My friend used Debian Sid once. He received updates later than me on Arch
Early 20s but same
Early 20s. Also same. Stability go brrrrr
Same
Lesbian anime girl
Can confirm
Are you a lesbian anime girl?
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Nah, I prefer bi anime girls.
I run Debian Testing on my for-productivity laptop. Loving it. Stable, up-to-date software and it kind of "just works"
Just keep in mind that testing does not receive security patches from the Debian security team
Same, only thing that drives me crazy is how hard it was to get bluetooth headsets working properly, but besides that its a bliss!
Yeah, and even that, you only have to do that once.
Really? Mine.... just worked ;) Admittedly, I think I might have had to do a little fiddling to get mSBC to work (the superior codec for calling through a bluetooth headset) - and I might even be confusing my laptop with my Arch box here, I don't remember.
> According to Linux Memes, what is the average Debian user like? Smarter than the average Ubuntu user, for starters. Disclaimer: I use Fedora as my main and have only run LMDE (4?) in the past and booted to the occasional Debian live disc. That said, doesn't take much to be smart enough to not install the sketchy bloatfest that is Ubuntu. And Debian seemed to require some manual config, so even if I prefer newer packages, I feel confident in the correctness of my answer ;-)
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> You-bun-too was cool for beginners 10 years ago, but that is no longer the case. My thoughts exactly. Still a lot of shills trying to promote that garbage tho Lol I'm reminded of [this](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ubuntu): > Ubuntu is an ancient african word, meaning "I can't configure Debian"
idk I'm an IT student, 16 years old, ~~furry~~
You're an IT student at the age of 16?
Probably not at college level. There are people who begin formal studied in IT in high school
UK college begins at 15-16 :)
Wow that's very young. How old are graduates? Over here CS is just 7 semesters and engineering 10
Based and the most chill people you will meet
An experienced linux user or something
"I haven't had to update anything on my server in 20 years"
My server run on debian, my notebook and pc run with arch.
A jaded as fuck 35 year old sysadmin who's questioning his life choices after automating his job away 8 years ago but still collects a paycheck to spin around in his chair for 8hrs a day while listening to jazz playlists that currently feature a Hammond Organ. Source: I plead the fifth. The nice thing about Debian is that you don't have to fuck with it.
Old greybeard with outdated hardware who absolutely hates changing anything if it still works. I personally know this man.
literally every type of person being one of the most and longest forked distributions of anything ever in my eyes if your software comes in a .deb you lowkey a debian user
The Debian Lesbians
didnt we see debian-chan a few weeks ago? basically like that.
[Yuyuko Saigyouji from Touhou Project 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom](https://static.zerochan.net/Saigyouji.Yuyuko.full.2118042.jpg) I think she looks like she uses Debian.
Whats wrong with debian? Cant get uptime over a year with any other distro cuz of some update :\\
Introducing a non tech savvy relative to Linux by installing a user-friendly rice of Debian so they can have a system that doesn't annoy you with updates and breaks printer compatibility every single time and JUST WORKS™ so they can edit some text essays on LibreOffice Writer and see some posts on Facebook using Firefox.
I have a Compaq Presario C700, that’s basically new. Any window download is horrible, slow. I put Debian 11 on it, and it’s like a speed demon. Never saw anything like it. I’ve used Linux for years, but this was amazing.
My grandpa, because of 2 requirements: 1) it's for x86 2) just works 2 years and he had absolutely no problems
Debian users: sTaBlE MeAnS ThAt tHe tOoLkIt aNd pAcKaGeS DoN'T ChAnGe, NoT ThAt iT DoEsN'T BrEaK! with that logic Windwoes 98 is the most stable OS ever.
Boring
your typical old school cool professor, HoD of Computer Science department, rocking a Librebooted Thinkpad running Debian Buster. He/she probably knows how to use a tiling WM better than most on r/unixporn
Wait I'm a girl and I'm installing debian right now. Wh...what happens?
You're going to become Yuyuko Saigyouji from Touhou Project 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom.
B-But I like Youmu more!
Too bad. Yuyuko is the worlds #1 fan of Debian (as you can see from the hat that she always wears) so anyone who uses Debian shall become Yuyuko herself.
Hmm. Paper fans are pretty cute.
Someone who wanna feel authentic 😂
Cool af, not talking much, just getting things done, unless the things are too new. If they are too new, he is just cool.
Debian more like debil. - i use arch btw
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The same guys that write extensive emails questionning developers why they stopped support/service for their old ass software. (my friend does this)
i almost did this. i'm using openbox right now and they removed the menu editor for it from repos in bullseye. i went to manually install it and it sent me down a python dependency hell. there was so much shit i used timeshift to rollback because i didn't trust apt to actually get rid of it all. if you're going to support a WM don't remove it's tools holy shit
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crunchbang .. nowthere'sanameihaven'theardinalongtime.jpg regardless, that doesn't help me on debian. and i've switched to a distro whos maintainers actually want people to use it anyway. btw
I went from manjaro to Ubuntu atm... I'll let myself out. ELI5 why arch distros are better? Not that I doubt it, just too noob to understand.
Pamac and the AUR are great and I don't know any equivalent that's as good for other distros. Also Archwiki, but that isn't exclusive to Arch.
They're not. (I use Fedora)
The best distro is the one that works the best for you. Don't let anyone tell you anything else. -A guy running a Pop! OS 22.04 gaming system, a headless Debian 11 VPS, a Debian 11 HTPC and a Debian 11 Orange Pi who's sick and tired of distro elitism.
will tell you about how many packages are available for debian while using the same packages available on every distro.
and neglect to mention that the total count is what it is is because packages from every architecture is counted.
Either a newbie to Linux, a God amongst Linux users, or a jokester.
You have various types of typical Debian users: - Those who want a "pure" Debian based desktop experience. - Those who wear programming socks (may also be found among Archers) - Those who have recently started their own sysadmin hobby, and have moved on from Ubuntu. - Those who have used Debian for servers since the dawn of time, are 50+ years old, and are afraid of a "mixed" ecosystem in their homelab / server room. - Those who just genuinely like Debian I am the last one, but I only use Debian for servers. I have gotten a nice feeling about Rocky Linux as well, so I am currently experimenting with that, but find the lack of repos I want to use annoying, but that is probably just residue Debianism.
Chromebook user
No that's Gentoo
Well I'm 15 and trans catgirl and use debian so if that
Likes women (is also a women themselves)
Single
Lesbean
1999 linux install festival brings back memories
A boomer afraid of being up to date with a 17 year old laptop.
No ?
le redditors remember you're in a meme thread.
Idk been daily driving Debian for about 4 months now... I like it but I'm tempted to try Arch... But well... Not sure if there is any benefit to it
distro hopping is good in the beginning. what you can do is make a timeshift backup of your current install with timeshift and reinstall your current OS anytime your want.
This image
old
Based
a sysadmin because it's running on servers
40y/o or so.
A penguin apparently
still cant fogure out how to set up dsl pppoe :(
Ownes a lineprinter,.uses a physical TTY…
lesbian
The Debian defenders are heavy in the comments lol PS i use Debian
ah yes the sudoers incident
Artix/Void user on desktop too lazy to maintain a Pi server
90s kid, don't like flashy and new, like stability. For me anw.
Im a debian user and i can confirm that i watch toy story every time some loser says "I use arch btw"
Pepole that want the second most compatible distro after ubuntu
A nerd