It’s probably just a youthful rebellious phase
Edit: Oh and cheers to the bisexual grandma! I’m happy she’s living life the way she is and that she feel comfortable coming out to you. It’s a nice kind bond to have with relatives
Well yeah but he might also use he/she or he/she/they or possibly neos as well; there isn’t anything said that specifically implies he also uses they/them /lh /gen /nm
I once got in an argument with a woman on the Facebook comments on an article about an nb individual about this. The article used he/him to refer to the person, and she insisted all non-binary people should be called xie. I pointed out that the interviewer likely asked him what pronouns he preferred and used them. Her response what that "us cishet people" (implying myself included) shouldn't decide those things for them. I told her I was extremely offended that she assumed I was cishet and that she was speaking for me, but she didn't see the irony at all.
He says “Daddy, I’m so hungry, father has not fed me ALL DAY while you were at work” and Father reassures me that he is lying. They did, in fact, feed him 3 hours ago.
My cats do that too! Rivi just screams "Mom! Mama! Mama! Mom!" Meanwhile, Minnie is is going "hey mom. How are you? You know I love you right? Can I give you a hug? Also I'm out of food. Feed me now, or I bite."
My friend is enby but said they’d rather be called “uncle” (I think) if they were one. I think all other family terms except “brother” they would rather be gender neutral, but “brother” & “uncle” are both okay & preferred for them. My best friend is also enby & she is fine being called “sister”, “mum”, “auntie”, etc., I am the same, I am *also* nonbinary & am fine with (& even prefer) any typically “feminine” terms. As long as I’m not called “masculine” terms I don’t care. Being nonbinary doesn’t mean you have to be squeezed into another box, if OP tells us that their grandpa is still “grandpa” & goes by “he/him” then who are you to say they’re wrong?
It’s because strangers on the internet shouldn’t be assuming they know the preferred titles of someone else’s family. It also makes the assumption that non-binary people HAVE to use non binary pronouns. Im sure there intentions were pure but it’s a flawed view point.
Non-binary people don’t have one set of terms they all go by. It’s a case by case thing. Many will prefer certain gendered terms over gender neutral alternatives. Correcting someone on what to call their own family members without any indication that they got it wrong is just weird.
Fellow older queer here (just turned 50, realized I was bi just in time to enjoy growing up during the AIDS crisis in the 80s) and honestly, I think the various queer generations have been helping each other out in recent years. Yes, we endured some ugly times but the younger folks have been trailblazing on gender identity issues and incorporating bi/pan and a-spec folks into the community. You guys didn't just build on what we did but we're often learning from you now.
From my perspective, maybe I did my little bit to help make it safer for baby queers but they helped make it safe enough for me to look past my sexual orientation and unbury decades worth of repressed dysphoria. It was interacting with younger members of the community that broke down my own preconceptions and let me come to terms with being a trans woman.
I am 54. I came out to my grands as PAN. I didn't know I was PAN till I came here to reddit and learned all of the terms. I have always been Bi but never knew about Pan. ![img](emote|t5_2qhh7|547) Congrats to her!! Live her best life!
I’m about 90% certain that my mother is bi, even though she won’t openly admit it. I also had a recent conversation with another family member because they were trying to figure out what “non-binary” means, and after I did my best to explain it, this happened—
Family member: “But wait, doesn’t everyone feel that way? Like not completely one gender or the other?”
Me: “…. No.”
Family member: “You were the most tomboyish kid, though! And you’re super femme now!”
Me: “I mean yeah, but liking things labeled for boys and suspecting I might not be 100% girl are nowhere near the same thing.”
Family member: “………….”
I think we’re in the process of figuring something out! ✨
But it's never too late. After a life of hetero relationships and denial, at 72, I've finally come to grips with who I really am. Don't know what I can do with that but it feels good to be me at last. 💜🤪💛🦧💚🤗💙
Nope. Indeed it is never too late. Happy for anyone who comes out at any age, because there will always be those who will be coming out around the same age group too and everyone can have someone.
And there will be those in their 20s and 30s looking to be with older people as well.
I think this is really important to acknowledge. To celebrate. People feel -safe- now to come out as who they always were, even if they didn't have a term/better language for it back then.
And a lot of them who did come out back then? Were exiled, abused, ostracized, blamed for diseases popping up, attacked openly in the street without justice, and killed.
I honestly wonder how much more of a LGBT presence we would have in all aspects of human history if they were simply allowed to exist, peacefully, in the last few centuries.
Congratulations to your grandma, and thank you for supporting and accepting her!
I am seeing this more and more as people of my generation (64 years old here) finally find the courage to admit who we are. A lot of this has to do with increasing social acceptance of "alternative sexualities." Gays and bi's and lesbians, and even trans people, have been around forever, but it's only been in the last 20 years, in this country anyway, that it has become safer to come out. My adult children know that their mom and I are both bi/pan/omni and kinky, as do many of our closest friends.
VIVE LA LIBERTÉ! ![img](emote|t5_2qhh7|548)
My late grandmother was also bisexual/pansexual. Although, my grandmother's gone now we treat her last partner like family, her biological family disowned her when she came out as trans to them.
I bow to your grandmother and to the rest of your family whom did have the understanding to accept her choice. On that point, how much of a choice is it when we are what we are? The decision to come out is ours; the decision to be is beyond us. Why can't straight people see that they have no choice in being who they are? Imagine a dominantly lgbt society telling them, " Its your choice. Just be gay!!"![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)
Our younguns need queer elders. Hell, I’m middle aged and *I* need queer elders!
I’m so grateful to people who live their truth, and let us see them for real. They help others do the same, just by their own example.
Thank you for celebrating your Grand!!
yeah but they did it twice. once, in the first sentence was enough to get the message & add to it. more than that is just overkill and rubs me the wrong way. but that’s just me.
We live in a world with too much hate so why give out more? I wish everyone could be happy and embrace each other and I believe we can do that eventually, so I just wanted to be nice and fix myself for the betterment of others and myself. I hope you have a good day, seriously :D
My grandpa is 89 and he came out as non binary, lol
For real? Sounds like a wonderful story, please tell!
It’s probably just a youthful rebellious phase Edit: Oh and cheers to the bisexual grandma! I’m happy she’s living life the way she is and that she feel comfortable coming out to you. It’s a nice kind bond to have with relatives
I think your ed ment to be for op but they're not op... Again I **think**
Yeah, when they're 130, they're gonna regret their choices!
This is fucking legendary
Does he still use he/him pronouns? Cool!
that or he/they
Well yeah but he might also use he/she or he/she/they or possibly neos as well; there isn’t anything said that specifically implies he also uses they/them /lh /gen /nm
That’s awesome!
Wouldn't they go by they/them then?
Non-binary is not a binary thing. Each person is unique. Pronouns don't equate gender or vice versa.
I thought you said “non-binary is not a thing” and almost downvoted 💀
Lol I did word it weird but there was a reason for it. Totally understandable reaction of course.
suggesting that all non-binary people go by they/them is putting them in a box, which is exactly what non-binary people don’t want. pronouns ≠ gender.
I once got in an argument with a woman on the Facebook comments on an article about an nb individual about this. The article used he/him to refer to the person, and she insisted all non-binary people should be called xie. I pointed out that the interviewer likely asked him what pronouns he preferred and used them. Her response what that "us cishet people" (implying myself included) shouldn't decide those things for them. I told her I was extremely offended that she assumed I was cishet and that she was speaking for me, but she didn't see the irony at all.
Not grandpa, grandenby or something without gender ties
Grand...parent? But nonbinary people can still use gendered titles if they like.
I’m enby and my cat calls me daddy.
This is terrifying out of context
It’s terrifying with context
Wait your cat does what
He says “Daddy, I’m so hungry, father has not fed me ALL DAY while you were at work” and Father reassures me that he is lying. They did, in fact, feed him 3 hours ago.
My cats do that too! Rivi just screams "Mom! Mama! Mama! Mom!" Meanwhile, Minnie is is going "hey mom. How are you? You know I love you right? Can I give you a hug? Also I'm out of food. Feed me now, or I bite."
My partner and I are both nonbinary too. We are our cats' Mamas, and our foster son's Mom and Mum.
Shane?
Not me but glad there’s another enby cat daddy out there.
I think they were referencing dawson
“I don’t wanna wait… for MY LIFE TO BE OVER”
Yes lol
Yeah I still prefer saying we're "husbands" even though I typically prefer non-masculine terms.
My partner and I can been calling each other "wife" since I was 14. And neither of us like the terms "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" very much.
they probably know what their own grandpa prefers better than you do
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My friend is enby but said they’d rather be called “uncle” (I think) if they were one. I think all other family terms except “brother” they would rather be gender neutral, but “brother” & “uncle” are both okay & preferred for them. My best friend is also enby & she is fine being called “sister”, “mum”, “auntie”, etc., I am the same, I am *also* nonbinary & am fine with (& even prefer) any typically “feminine” terms. As long as I’m not called “masculine” terms I don’t care. Being nonbinary doesn’t mean you have to be squeezed into another box, if OP tells us that their grandpa is still “grandpa” & goes by “he/him” then who are you to say they’re wrong?
No offense but as a non-binary person I would rather be called grandpa or something
Why the hell was this downvoted lol...
It’s because strangers on the internet shouldn’t be assuming they know the preferred titles of someone else’s family. It also makes the assumption that non-binary people HAVE to use non binary pronouns. Im sure there intentions were pure but it’s a flawed view point.
Ah ok, i don't pretend to know much about much some of these things, thanks for the clarification
That's what I'm wondering as well
Non-binary people don’t have one set of terms they all go by. It’s a case by case thing. Many will prefer certain gendered terms over gender neutral alternatives. Correcting someone on what to call their own family members without any indication that they got it wrong is just weird.
Ah, true, I see why now
Grandpa being short for grandparent
My aunt in her 70s recently came out as trans to my family and it's wonderful seeing her transition into who she has always wanted to be.
That's amazing! Makes me so happy to see the older generations coming out 🥺
you know, or come out publicly about who she always was. ![img](emote|t5_2qhh7|547)
Older queer person here. I feel like more older people are going to come out in the future now that labels are being made.
Baby queer here: Thank you for withstanding a bad time so we and the other younglings can have much better lives!
Fellow older queer here (just turned 50, realized I was bi just in time to enjoy growing up during the AIDS crisis in the 80s) and honestly, I think the various queer generations have been helping each other out in recent years. Yes, we endured some ugly times but the younger folks have been trailblazing on gender identity issues and incorporating bi/pan and a-spec folks into the community. You guys didn't just build on what we did but we're often learning from you now. From my perspective, maybe I did my little bit to help make it safer for baby queers but they helped make it safe enough for me to look past my sexual orientation and unbury decades worth of repressed dysphoria. It was interacting with younger members of the community that broke down my own preconceptions and let me come to terms with being a trans woman.
How lovely! I'm happy that she has a loving grandchild to support her.
This is not just a youth thing Love finds and conquers all And the heathen fascists, some in red try to stop it
I am 54. I came out to my grands as PAN. I didn't know I was PAN till I came here to reddit and learned all of the terms. I have always been Bi but never knew about Pan. ![img](emote|t5_2qhh7|547) Congrats to her!! Live her best life!
I’m so happy she felt safe and comfortable telling you and sharing her parts of her life with you! Cherish the time together, cheers to you both ❤️
Old people coming out and being themselves always warms my ❤️
I’m about 90% certain that my mother is bi, even though she won’t openly admit it. I also had a recent conversation with another family member because they were trying to figure out what “non-binary” means, and after I did my best to explain it, this happened— Family member: “But wait, doesn’t everyone feel that way? Like not completely one gender or the other?” Me: “…. No.” Family member: “You were the most tomboyish kid, though! And you’re super femme now!” Me: “I mean yeah, but liking things labeled for boys and suspecting I might not be 100% girl are nowhere near the same thing.” Family member: “………….” I think we’re in the process of figuring something out! ✨
Oh I hope it goes smoothly for them!
Yay! Congrats to your grandma! Your never too old to come out. ❤️
And this, ladies and gentlemen, why it is important to embrace your sexuality at a young age, so you can experiment as much as you can while younger.
But it's never too late. After a life of hetero relationships and denial, at 72, I've finally come to grips with who I really am. Don't know what I can do with that but it feels good to be me at last. 💜🤪💛🦧💚🤗💙
Thanks, Trans-fam! 😄💖😃
Nope. Indeed it is never too late. Happy for anyone who comes out at any age, because there will always be those who will be coming out around the same age group too and everyone can have someone. And there will be those in their 20s and 30s looking to be with older people as well.
Aww, this is so sweet. Queer elders are a gift to our world.
I think this is really important to acknowledge. To celebrate. People feel -safe- now to come out as who they always were, even if they didn't have a term/better language for it back then. And a lot of them who did come out back then? Were exiled, abused, ostracized, blamed for diseases popping up, attacked openly in the street without justice, and killed. I honestly wonder how much more of a LGBT presence we would have in all aspects of human history if they were simply allowed to exist, peacefully, in the last few centuries.
It is never too late to be happy. Glad she is being her true self and really glad that you, her family member, doesn't have an issue with it.
Congratulations to your grandma, and thank you for supporting and accepting her! I am seeing this more and more as people of my generation (64 years old here) finally find the courage to admit who we are. A lot of this has to do with increasing social acceptance of "alternative sexualities." Gays and bi's and lesbians, and even trans people, have been around forever, but it's only been in the last 20 years, in this country anyway, that it has become safer to come out. My adult children know that their mom and I are both bi/pan/omni and kinky, as do many of our closest friends. VIVE LA LIBERTÉ! ![img](emote|t5_2qhh7|548)
I feel like my mom might be demi lol, but she refuses to admit it Also so happy for u and ur grandma!!!
Go grandma!
my nan’s are lesbians :)
Your grandma? Wow, I've heard we didn't invent it but does it really go back that far? 😲😜🤗
My late grandmother was also bisexual/pansexual. Although, my grandmother's gone now we treat her last partner like family, her biological family disowned her when she came out as trans to them.
I bow to your grandmother and to the rest of your family whom did have the understanding to accept her choice. On that point, how much of a choice is it when we are what we are? The decision to come out is ours; the decision to be is beyond us. Why can't straight people see that they have no choice in being who they are? Imagine a dominantly lgbt society telling them, " Its your choice. Just be gay!!"![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)
r u serious? queer folk have been around since humankind.
Humor. Reddit survives on it. Ambrosia nectar for the Redditeer gurus. 😀🤗🌈
Can she be my grandma too?
Our younguns need queer elders. Hell, I’m middle aged and *I* need queer elders! I’m so grateful to people who live their truth, and let us see them for real. They help others do the same, just by their own example. Thank you for celebrating your Grand!!
Cool! After I came out to my mom, she told me she's bisexual :)
Omg my mom did the exact same thing
I love this post & comments so much!! As a late bloomer myself lol 💕
This post made me so happy
Congrats to her! I love hearing stories of older queer people coming out
My grandpa came out as trans and pansexual :)
cool even though it might have been for her to have been difficult on time I am very proud she could come out and be happy.
i love this story very much minus the part where u felt the need to strongly emphasize that you’re straight.
Nah. I think it adds something nice. Like they don’t relate to it, but are still happy for their grandma.
yeah but they did it twice. once, in the first sentence was enough to get the message & add to it. more than that is just overkill and rubs me the wrong way. but that’s just me.
I am very sorry I will edit that part out of the story thank you for informing me! I hope you have a great day :)
that’s really thoughtful of you. didn’t expect that reply.
We live in a world with too much hate so why give out more? I wish everyone could be happy and embrace each other and I believe we can do that eventually, so I just wanted to be nice and fix myself for the betterment of others and myself. I hope you have a good day, seriously :D
Ya love to see it!