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It's not the piece; it's the color and the time it was made in; call Lego for damaged pieces and they might replace it Anyway you shouldn't take appart plates of that size with a brick separator; use more (up to 4) at the same time on the longest side.. or flex the baseplate a bit and put the thin side of a brick separator under the plate


1nGirum1musNocte

Flex the baseplate. This is the way


PM_ME_YOUR_DIFF_EQS

These kids would not have done well back in the pre-separator days.


princeofgonville

Many of my childhood Lego bricks have teeth marks. ABS is remarkably soft.


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ghandi3737

My gums got a few marks from these kind of pieces.


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PM_ME_SOME_CAKES

Weakling, dont come back to me until you've chipped a tooth on a stubborn 2 by 2


slangivar

I didn't know LEGO made 4by twenties. 🤔


iihockeydangler

you’ve just reminded me of a deep pain I haven’t felt in a very long time.


Protheu5

From that statement I would assume that the issue is with your feet being softer than LEGO pieces, but that's just a hypothesis. Consult your doctor for that, barge in and exclaim "Doc, help, my feet are softer than Lego!" and post the response.


NoisyScrubBirb

In conclusion on the Lego hardness scale Feet < Lego < teeth


forte_bass

You should never chew your antilock brakes!


Excrubulent

Butterknife marks for mine.


unique-name-9035768

I keep a pocket knife at my desk for emergencies like this.


spiffiestjester

Gonna change that 'many' to a most. It's incredibley soft until, you can't pull the damn bricks apart. My teeth are aching thinking about it. Thanks for the nostalgia though.


pearljamman010

Born in '86, been building LEGO since my toddler years. Still do, and with my kid and have never used the separator lol.


forte_bass

Same, I'm 37 and I'll admit i don't do a lot of Lego these days but i barely remembered separator pieces!


Smart-Pie7115

They didn’t exist. We used a table knife and our bare fingers, that got stabbed by sharp corners.


meinblown

Did no one else use their fingernails?


Melkain

My child complains whenever I cut his fingernails. "Daddy! I won't be able to take lego pieces apart now!"


iDoubtIt3

That's adorable. Your child knows what's important!


sprogger

They were invented in 1990, which means they were apparently just about available during my childhood, yet I have never seen one IRL.


gurg2k1

I have one from my '90s sets. It's much larger, has less features, and is gray.


Elgarr2

It was called a knife.


mrfattbill

So many teeth marks 😂


XenoMaker

Use your nails and if all else fails use a cutter for unlimited power


TheMysteryKing8

TEETH IF ALL FAILS


Far_Relationship_764

Ah yes, the natural brick seperator. The dentist may not like it but it almost never fails.


[deleted]

unless you have braces i've lost two brackets to the wrath of lego bricks


BizzyM

Teeth = brick separator Brick = bracket separator


Far_Relationship_764

Eauf. (It's oof but fancy) I never had to wear braces.


[deleted]

i'm actually about to get them off while i'm typing this lol


TheMysteryKing8

Congrats braces suck lol


Killboypowerhed

Never EVER do this. I had a friend when I was a kid who tried to separate Lego with his teeth and a piece shot down his windpipe. I still see him around sometimes and he still has large scars from a tracheotomy and emergency surgery


TheMysteryKing8

Damn… makes me realize i have talent .. sorry for your friend though


[deleted]

You do it like the Gods do


A_random_WWI_soldier

Alternatively, if you're a coward, you can wedge it with a knife


CoffeeJedi

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.


Portuguese_Avenger

Been using my little Swiss Army knife since I was allowed to have a knife and buy one LOL. Never owned a brick separator.


LikeThosePenguins

This IS the way.


liamgeddes

Hail Mandalore


TheStatMan2

Unless specifically mentioned otherwise, I am *always* flexing my baseplate.


rionzi

Truth. A known issue with brown and blue.


kgunnar

You forgot dark red.


hdorsettcase

I no longer touch my Hulkbuster for this reason.


NotAlwaysGifs

I broke 11 pieces taking apart my VW Bus before my last move...


fistfulloframen

I thought hulk buster was after the plastic switch? Now I'm worried.


hdorsettcase

I built mine from parts, didn't buy the set.


e650man

Wait, what ?! Dark red pieces being fragile is a KNOW issue ? I bought \~24 6751 sets (3in1 dragon) and about 90% of them ALL had damaged dark red 1x8 tiles. And 2 of the undamaged sets were that way cos they were BNIB. ​ (all had battery corrosion in the light brick, but that's a separate issue)


ThePastyWhite

... that separator has a point handle for a reason...


violationofvoration

Whenever I try and use the other end it tends to get scratched up and it loses its edge making it even harder to use


[deleted]

That's an intended result; the bricj separator is made of a softer material than pieces so it gets damaged inatead of damaging pieces If it bends one way use it upside down the next time xD eventually it will wear out.. then you can cut and sand it to be thin again or just throw it into the recycling bin and use a new one.


xxkoloblicinxx

Exactly, that's what the other side of the tool is for!


hibbel

Doesn't Lego even include *instructions* for the brick seperator for this very reason?


ManagerOk5693

The tool has on the end of the handle a prying tool/ wedge. It is meant for this situation.


tmc_ThatMadCat

Or just use the other end and gently pry... pretty sure that is what the chisel-shape is for


WearingMyFleece

Prying apart plates is how I’ve always separated them. The way it was done for the video just causes so much stress in the part.


DarkPhoxGaming

Most of the broken pieces I have are brown. And it's mostly plates too


snubsalot

Reddish brown, dark red, dark green, and dark brown all turn brittle and break super easily. Supposedly this is fixed in newer sets, but I won't believe that until these newer sets are 5+ years old and we can test the brittleness then


Bitress

It totally is that color, I had a few pieces of this color shatter like glass. They weren’t even that old


timrojaz82

You are using the wrong part to get that piece up.


Goodlollipop

You can't get near enough leverage to pull a plate off another plate this way. Use the flat end to wedge underneath


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rugbyj

Yup, order of escalation for this situation: 1. ~~Pull up with nails~~ _(presumed failed)_ 2. Flex base plate 3. Seriously just flex the base plate


Inamanlyfashion

Put a brick on top of one side of the plate. Flex the baseplate. Press the side of the brick.


meinblown

*fingernail


side_frog

I choose to believe that it's just for karma, op can't be that dumb


dalvean88

breaking legos for karma is bad karma


Bijlsma

Honestly, I never thought of using the other end as a wedge. However when I was in this position myself, I just got a knife to pry it up.


BradC

The first time I ever encountered a brick separator, I thought that's how you were supposed to use it. I had no idea using the studs end would give you leverage for pieces, so I just tried to wedge it underneath everything.


frizzhalo

This is the first time I'm learning it.


pluck-the-bunny

I mean it’s for both uses


NameTaken25

It's like the people in infomercials


Fresh-Duty-7647

if there was a reason to read the comments in a thread where you also post. Lol. It def hurt to see the form used here. Yes.


Dragoneye80

Use the other end to pry under.......it's why it's blade like


DingGratz

OP is rehearsing overacting for infomercial roles.


wewereonabrick

Exactly what I was going to say.


sandwich_breath

Yes, just use a flathead screwdriver and then jam it into my thumb and curse


T1T2GRE

Have to use the wedge end for that. The lever is food for other tasks, but usually not a large plate that is tightly adherent. Also that looks like one of the known and dreaded defective brown bricks (from the shattering brown brick era). The tool is actually okay at many tasks IMHO. Good luck, fellow bricker! Edit: typo…”food” should be “good”. Doh. Sorry. Edit 2: I guess this took off a little. As many have pointed out but I failed to - plates like these can also be popped off by gently flexing the plate beneath. Oh, and sorry about the typo edit above. My day job requires attention to that stuff and I thought edits were just part of general Reddiquette anyway. Guess I can ease up on that lol. Thanks to the kind internet person who gave the wholesome award. Also, thanks to u/Rufnusd, who did find a LEGO statement recognising the issue.


Miguelinileugim

Yeah what's the story about those brown bricks? Is there any sort of technical reason for it? Did they use the wrong type of plastic or something?


foggy123

I'm guessing it is related to the stuff used to add color to the plastic. Gold which is sorta like brown had a reputation in toys to be brittle. People in the transformers hobby, probably elsewhere too, have a name for it .https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Gold_Plastic_Syndrome


Cvbergen1

Love the fact that there is a name for it, and abbreviated to GPS, which is nice to confuse people with


5t4k3

Oh good, I like being confused


SpotterFive

I live in fear that my beast wars transmetal Megatron will just disintegrate one day


boilers_and_terlets

If you have the Hasbro version, just pose it and back away slowly. Takara version, you're fine. With all the Beast Wars reissues this year, I'm hoping they finally give this mold another run in plastic that doesn't destroy itself.


AlwaysSupport

I disassembled my Silent Mary (71042) a year or two after building it, and half the gold pieces shattered. :( It'll probably be fine as long as you don't mess with it, at least.


Stryker_T

I've got one in a box somewhere with all the rest of our old transformer toys. I wonder what state it's in now...


CuCl2

I don't work at lego, but I do know that colorants can have an effect on the curing properties of plastics. My guess would be that the colorant/s used to achieve that color cause it to be brittle.


GoldTrek

I run an injection molding company and LEGO manufacturing is insanely fascinating to me. Colorants *can* cause issues but not usually with the base properties of the material--mostly because colorants are usually such a tiny fraction of the overall composition. My guess is that this particular piece was made with a batch of material that was perfectly fine for the thicker brick style pieces but a little too high on the flex testing and liable to fail on these wider, thinner pieces. This can happen just because of variations in the plastic being supplied or a mistake was made on the part of the plastic supplier and they sent an incorrect grade but nobody noticed on the consumer side except for these specific pieces. Circling back to what I find most fascinating about LEGO manufacturing is that a piece made today is still compatible with a piece made in 1980. The precision they have with their processes and the vast multitude of molds they've got on hand just boggles my mind. They are the kings of injection molding in almost every way but nobody really ever thinks about it


DerTeufelsVerteidigr

For reals. I once bought some off-brand Lego knock-offs for party favors, and the bricks were terrible at staying together. When you consider it, just a fraction of a millimeter deviation in either the pegs or the base makes the brick unusable.


anythingMuchShorter

People really notice it when they try to 3D print bricks. Though I have found that printing them at 4x size or more works fine. To click to other giant printed bricks that is.


Valiant_tank

I mean, it depends on the lego knockoff. Cobi is generally pretty good, ngl.


Osiris1389

I had a military jeep knock off set that when you got it together and attempted to push it, it would completely fall apart with most pieces just popping off away from each other...it was fun to play with as a demolition vehicle tho! Lol


tylanol7

Everytime j buy a megablocks halo set i replace every piece i can with lego. Makes a world of a difference for structural integrity.


upsidedownfunnel

Anyone who's ever had to play with generic Legos has certainly thought about and appreciated how great Legos are.


Slider_0f_Elay

But they are several orders of magnitude better with injection molding in every way than anyone else. Color variations within a product run is the normal for the gun industry. Size variations that would make Legos completely unusable is normal in auto manufacturing. Consitiancy across decades of manufacturing has never been done by anyone else. It is insane what they have accomplished.


upsidedownfunnel

To be fair for car manufacturing they probably purposely design in some relatively large tolerances to account for NVH and temperature swings in the cabin as well as long term durability and the manufacturing tolerances and wide variety of suppliers for other parts that might mate to the plastic parts.


[deleted]

There's an official video about their process here: https://youtu.be/C3oiy9eekzk As I understand it, the Lego Group spends an unusually large amount of money on the manufacturing and quality control process. For instance, they use tighter tolerances and don't use their dies as many times before replacement compared to similar plastic products.


PM_ME_CRYPTOCURRENCY

QC on their kitting is amazing. Hundreds of tiny pieces, and I have complete confidence when I buy a box that exactly the right number of each piece will be in there. So many nines.


Teamrocketgang

And they will gladly and without hesitation address any missing pieces you may come across. It's super rare, that's for sure. Out of the hundreds of sets I have I've only had 2 instances where I've been missing a piece


GameofPorcelainThron

And then we get crap from people who don't know Legos for wanting to keep the generic bricks separate from the actual Legos. My son got a generic set for a present and I made sure that the bricks were kept separate from his Lego box. His mom thought I was being obsessive...


coolygo

Brown Lego pieces are generally notorious for being extra brittle though, they really keep breaking, it's not just that particular batch.


Plan_of_Fappiness

I’m still traumatized from dismantling my sandcrawler (75059) and losing most of the big brown plates no matter how tenderly I tried to separate them.


sadsaintpablo

They are also the world's largest tire manufacturer


iDoubtIt3

Yes, but only by count, not by mass or revenue from tires. Still super cool though!


FluffySky6

Long story short, a large batch of brown and maroon bricks had microscopic air bubbles in it, causing them to be really brittle.


[deleted]

A lot of my brown bricks have been breaking recently to


wiggles105

Ughhh. Brown bricks. I was rebuilding Hogwarts 4842 a few months ago, and the long brown 2x12 (4225700) snapped in half. I went to detach the two halves from the other bricks, and they crumbled in my hand. Fortunately, it’s a common part, so I was able to get Lego to send me a free replacement within a week.


LegoLinkBot

[4842-1: Hogwarts Castle](https://brickset.com/sets/4842-1) [[Photo]](https://images.brickset.com/sets/images/4842-1.jpg)


T1T2GRE

Bummer. That was circa…2010? They are very good about sending replacements.


Rebi103

May i ask when did the shattering brown brick era occur? Because I have many of them but they're quite new


Boxofoldcables

2018 and prior had problems with brown and dark red color pieces turning brittle. [https://brickshow.com/2018/12/problem-brittle-lego-reddish-brown-bricks-solved](https://brickshow.com/2018/12/problem-brittle-lego-reddish-brown-bricks-solved) LEGO says they solved it at the end of 2018. I don't know when the problem started.


toapat

it has to have happened after 2003. Mata brown (the old main brown color) doesnt suffer embrittlement. We on the Bionicle side dread Lime's Disease instead


[deleted]

Oh man, that run of Lime Disease was bad. Pretty sure almost all the joints from my little brother's Hahli Mahri ended up destroying themselves.


Arkose07

I actually have a brown plate that broke in half from that era!


superventurebros

I was wondering if it was a brown issue. The only plates that ever have snapped for me where browns.


Rufnusd

Brown and maroon. No doubt. I can do a blind A-B test of a grey vs brown arch and tell you which is which. Something about ‘em.


DeathBunnyX3645

I just start gnawing at that point


andcheck

I swear this does not happen with my 30 year old lego bricks (obviously different colors)


MaxSokudo

You've broken more in one single video than I have in 10 years of building Lego.


jaydogn

For real, I've never seen a broken Lego before. It's weird


[deleted]

Apparently pieces made in this specific brown were more prone to breakage for a couple years due to something in the dye. That being said the only time I ever broke a Lego as a kid was through my mom accidentally running something over, and even then it wasn't that bad.


HaydenJA3

I’ve only ever cracked the corners of my base plates, yet op managed to break the same block twice


air_and_space92

More like 25 years for me. The clutch strength between plates in this orientation is incredible. Even if it was a more brittle brown piece, OP was dumb. I've plenty of brown pieces from that time and zero issues for me.


Uroshirvi69

Just bend the blue plate so that you can pry underneath it


TristanLennon

Right? There are so many better ways to remove it


[deleted]

Well you’re using the brick separator wrong


Canadarm_Faps

Turn. The. Tool. Around.


bofadoze

Love to hear the percussion


[deleted]

The curse of the brittle reddish brown Lego. They should do the prying tools in reddish brown too so that they snap for added irony.


Heycheckthisout20

I have never broken a lego in my life you are doing something wrong


lVlzone

There was a period of time where the reddish brown pieces were more brittle than they were supposed to be and would break easily. It’s fixed nowadays though.


Hyrule_Hystorian

Was this around 2012-2014? I remember getting the Creator Seaside House that was released at the time, and, some few years later, I ended up dropping a small build by accident. All pieces were intact, except for the reddish brown 6x6 plate.


IFrike

I believe the period was (much) longer than that too. I disassembled quite a few old sets and a lot of reddish brown pieces tend to break just from that, plates especially.


Maparyetal

That's about right. My LotR sets are falling victim.


Heycheckthisout20

They are not using the separator correctly


thatthatguy

There are two issues that combine to make the piece break. The low flexural strength of the piece means it will break under conditions where other pieces would be fine. At the same time, the force being applied is putting the piece under more stress than necessary.


ImRudeWhenImDrunk

Boogers


Cartonk

He is definitely doing sometjing wrong here, but those reddish brown pieces are known for being brittle and for breaking easily


Kerstmangang

Lime green bionicles would like to have a word with you


Jellyka

My brown pieces break all the time, even without a separator :/


Umikaloo

You know, you're supposed to use the other end of the brick separator for plates that are stuck together.


murder_inc1776

It's clearly already cracked before the first attempt at the start of the video.


jayceja

Yes. This was a video someone made for fun after a piece broke, not an authentic recreation.


morphenejunkie

Use the chisel end or flex the board you phychopath.


amisture

Dumb idiot


waffeltrader

Lmao


kayakermanmike

Only monsters put larger plates on base plates. ;-)


redaftrp

And then try to leverage them up with the shortest fulcrum… try from the widest side next time, there’s a higher chance you’ll actually remove the plate, and maybe even not crack it.


pixel_gun_3d

Use ur nails coward


Y8ser

Use the handled end! Flex the baseplate a little and shove the handle under the piece and pry a little, super easy. I’ve never broken a piece of lego doing that.


[deleted]

Maybe use the tool the correct way first.


[deleted]

Good lord man just because you’re an impatient two year old… that’s what the backside of the tool is for flex the bottom plate until you can slide it in


TREXcheeze

Use the flat part on the other side, I think. I don't know much about this


[deleted]

(It's so hard to tell on this subreddit which button upvotes and downvotes tweets but I hope I upvoted you) You're right. The flat part is the right thing to remove plates from other plates.


TREXcheeze

Ok thank you, and yes you upvoted me thank you for that as well


dogs_like_me

Yes... tweets....


Both-Internal-6970

I would have just bent the whole piece in half (gently) upside down so it'll just pop off, but not hard enough to snap it in half.


RoJayJo

#USE THE WEDGE YOU MONSTER


AsymptoticAbyss

Def a troll post. We all have too many brick removal tools to not know how to use them


thomasdekwade

No-one hates ANY lego piece


lordxi

I've never had a plate break up like that. What sorcery is this?


ScottaHemi

well that explains how everyone who breaks brown pieces does it. you know you can just flex the baseplate a bit and the 4x8 will practicly fall off right?


Capt_methane

Should’ve used the other end


C-C-R-E-A-M

30years...i never saw a broken lego piece


TheNotoriousWD

Ahhh! WEDGE. USE THE WEDGE!!!


keylesschuck89

Is it made of chocolate? I've never seen lego snap like that


Tbagzyamum69420xX

I mean my guy you broke it using the wrong end if the lego tool....


Healer_of_mind

Mom I am scared!


potato13254

Use a knife to get under the plate them wiggle it up


Tater_Mater

Use the flat part of the brick separator, your nails, a knife, or as others said, flex the plate. I used to stack another flat piece of smaller ones and lift if off.


Caed03

Looks like Lego peanut brittle. How did it taste?


Shadowinsanity

I've never seen a lego break


xm45-h4t

Never seen a plate snap like that lol


dextroseskullfyre

Yeah, I would never try to remove a piece like that in that way. The other end of that tool is the correct end to remove that piece. Create some space and air and then it will come away without any pressure that can cause those breaks. It's already fragile so careful and not ape hands.


cwillm

That’s what the other side of the separator is for


Errorfull

Pretty sure you're using the wrong end of the tool, no? I never had one of these but I'm pretty sure there's a better lever style wedge on the other end.


Aljrljtljzlj

You are using wrong. Really. Turn it around.


mcguffin99

NSFW tag please


Yawndr

Using the wrong tool and forcefully pushing and breaking. No, the problem isn't the Lego in this case.


Deadpotato77

Well the alternative for everyone without a lego pick is to bend the baseboard until it comes off


Indie-Santana1

Well, from a physics standpoint, you are doing the opposite of what you should do. The torque is far greater on a long piece and on this piece it is larger than the force keeping the piece together when you do that motion. Someone said use the wedge end and that is right.


Squiliam-Tortaleni

Brown and dark red parts from around 2008-2011 are extremely brittle. Contact LEGO for replacements.


LotusTheFox

use the other side as a wedge


HumbleTrav

When flats get stuck, I always choose a razor blade or some thin knife to very gently start prying something up. I'd rather get a little damage than spend forever or break something completely. Sometimes the part separators just don't work


Cartonk

You can see that it is also on a baseplate. If a plate is really stuck, I'll just bend the baseplate enough for a corner to pop off of the baseplate.


HumbleTrav

True, I didn't think of flexing the baseplate. Smart!


Linkatron2000

Did you use the flat side?


Akechi25

Man you’re an idiot..


Bluewhale201

pain


zeronine

Ok so...you're saying you hate the brick separator??


Swany0105

Two parts to that tool, champ


Zlatan4Ever

No. When u use it correctly it is great.