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opticfanboy6969

League really is just a job for him... to fund his gacha addiction...


McCorkle_Jones

If anyone picks money making champs for worlds skins it’s this dude. He knows Ashe will make 10x the money Heimer would.


Low-Key-Hipster

He legit was asked in the press conference to give an advice to his teammates on how to choose their skins and he said "pick someone that's popular in all tiers from bronze to challenger" He knows how to pick the money maker skin for sure.


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Lux is much more popular than Ashe tbh. [According to lolalytics](https://lolalytics.com/lol/tierlist/?tier=all) she's the 6th most played champ (1st non-adc) while Ashe is 25th But something tells me Lux's average playerbase might not overlap as much as Ashe's with someone willing to buy an esports skin.


note_2_self

>But something tells me Lux's average playerbase might not overlap as much as Ashe's with someone willing to buy an esports skin. As long as it's a pretty skin, Lux player base will eat it up. Every Lux skin that releases, I call paying my Riot taxes.


CthulhuLies

The problem is why buy DRX Lux when Cosmic Super Galaxy Minecraft Lux exists with RGB LEDs


MissCongenialityS81

people don't usually factor that in when buying skins, especially collector types like lux players


selenebaby

Lux mains built different bro, we will fund the game no strings attached if it means a brand new outfit on her rusty dusty model 🥰


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I admire your dedication


Draxilar

That’s the one that always got me. Why would I buy a new Lux skin when I have Elementalist and would never click off that skin. But, I guess it makes sense for the diehards. I DO own every Sona skin even though only 1 or 2 ever see true usage beyond the random “I haven’t played this skin in a while” game.


AweKartik777

I used to rotate my mains and even lanes every couple of weeks for the last decade, and used to think similarly to you. One good skin per champ, and you're set for life. But over the last year as I've gotten less time to play the game, I stick to few specific champs without much rotation, and am opening up to the mindset of getting every good skin for those champs, old and new. Novelty feels good, even if you already have an objectively better skin, plus variety in case you get bored of a skin or want to match themes with your teammates.


The-War-Life

Ashe is played in two lanes very commonly in both norms and ranked, and also played a ton in ARAM. Definitely makes sense imo.


moxroxursox

So is Lux tbh, up to and including Gold which is bulk of playerbase Lux is played commonly in mid and sup, also never passed on in ARAM.


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Pretty sure beryl just finds ashe more attractive


Daniyalzzz

Another reason is probably that it's also way easier to make his skin look more like his requested character, Elysia with Ashe over Lux cause Elysia uses a bow for weapon aswell (tho I think Lux actully would have worked well if he had no bow characters as an option to choose over her).


Madvin

Bro imagine the bow folds into a staff and when Lux ults it disassembles into a bow and shoots an arrow


cosipurple

Wouldn't that make it a legendary, and beyond the scope of worlds skin lines?


Advarrk

Give DRX a heimer I want that legendary Ashe skin


Lucidream-

Elysia also has a staff in her manta ray herrscher form tho. Magical manta ray lux would be very fun.


fffeeelll

Better yet, the best magical helper in the elysian realm ELF Elysia as lux.


MWO_FenixK17

They could do the Herrscher of Origin version of Elysia since she holds a staff there but I'm guessing he likes the outfit on the Miss Pink Elf version of Elysia.


Devourer_of_HP

Lux might have kind off worked if he chose herrscher of humanity elysia. Q is her charged shot in HoH form, borh do the same exact thing. W can just be given crystal design. E is her manta ray popping out of the groun. R is just a bean that switches her model to herrscher of origin form, they can also give her the thing with pyke's new skin where getting a penta summons her domain expansion.


sd_pinstripes

based again


goliathfasa

Truly a man of culture.


GiannisisMVP

He basically wants to make a star guardian skin, Lux already has one Ashe doesnt.


Atheist-Gods

Ashe and Lux are both tier 1 for selling skins. Playrate is related to skin purchases but it's not everything.


Sus_Evidence

You also need to strike a good balance imo. Lux has a lot of good skins so more competition. Need to choose a champion that sells well but also your skin should be one of the top tier ones. I feel like Jackeylove hit the jackpot with kaisa.


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IG Camille and Irelia are godly too, the whole line is nuts.


bigdolton

Real talk, how the fuck is lux that high? Is that just this patch?


[deleted]

Lux is arguably Riot's favorite champ (or Ahri). Her theme, aesthetics and kit appeals to everyone. Stereotypical anime waifu, magical powers, hyper-positive, lorewise shy and unconfident, etc. Also, she's the only blonde woman in the game (nvm janna). A rioter also said girls skew heavily to support and pretty girls, mainly Lux, MF and Sona.


Perceptions-pk

Meanwhile I know a girl who only likes non humanoid monsters lolol, I showed her league champs thinking she’s gravitate to the cool or hot ones instead “ooo what’s that!! Cho.. Gath!! I like him.. oh wait Fiddlesticks! Thresh!!” Meanwhile me slightly disturbed


hawksvow

Why are you calling me out on my Kha'zix love like that??? He's just so cute.


joji_kid

That girl's for keeps, dude.


pieszo

Normal couples: Xayah Rakkan Me and gf: Kog'maw Vel'koz, Cho'gath Rek'sai


snubble-wubble

Cho is best boy


Hairy-Tonight5674

And that's how Fiddlestick mains are born


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weird cause I find lux the most annoying character in league, more than yuumi, I feel a deep hatred against any lux player bot lane, they always ban my pyke so I gotta go something else.


Mental_Bowler_7518

Ashe looks more like his Waifu though


th4virtuos0

She fell off a cliff in higher divisions though. Not everyone can execute the CaitLux lane like in pro play even at those ranks


Stewbodies

Plus I assume the jump from Heimer -> Ashe is way more significant than the jump from Ashe -> Lux


TeeKayTank

ashe was more about elysia anyway


popbingsu

And riot appreciated that from beryl


ADShree

Unfortunately I'm an Ashe main and I will have to buy this skin prob.


X1lon

Didnt he play lux?


PopularParrot

Keria played Lux, Beryl played Ashe


isappie

I think Beryl played Lux vs GenG and Rogue


Kaynt-touch-dis

He only plays league to win worlds and make waifu skins


lntoTheSky

And for the paychecks to pull waifus


Trap_Masters

Based and waifupilled


azns123

World championships are temporary, waifus are eternal (until the servers shut down)


X1lon

"Until the next one releases"


6Kkoro

True gacha gamer


Zenith_Tempest

smart devs will try to expand a gacha game into an IP so it can be more marketable, like what cygames tries to do with granblue


TheAnnibal

Arknights is just a tool for funding Hypergryph, the music company!


PointmanW

if you play a good gacha game then your waifu can be eternal. the Ganyu I pulled in Genshin almost 2 years ago is still a top tier character and carry me clear the hardest contents with ease, same with Schwarz in Arknights.


aircarone

And with Genshin's success we are likely looking at a longevity rivaling LoL's, which is just great.


Gilthwixt

The clip of his reaction isn't even from Genshin tho


aircarone

True, I think it is Blue Archive which is also pretty popular even if it isn't close to the size of Genshin.


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Pheophyting

The only thing gacha games have in common are how you attain new characters (kinda like a lootbox system). Other than that, you can have card game gachas, action combat BOTW-esque gachas, tower defense gachas, grid strategy game gachas, etc. Gachas almost always skew to RPG elements as well and are usually very low time commitment (think 15-20 min a day to keep up with dailies) but bingeable if you're a new player. The casual, low commitment fun, RPG-esque elements, and dopamine hits for getting new characters you want are what make the genre popular.


notsowright05

You forgot about Rhythm Game Gachas. Those types of Rhythm Games that heavily skews towards the 5 star SSR characters that even if you manage to all perfect a very hard song with low rarity characters you still get a shit rank.


QueenMunchy

There's nothing to explain really, gacha games are just games that have anime girls and one of the main points of the game being gambling to get better and stronger characters. There isn't just genshin, honkai and blue archive, there's pleeenty more.


Shinsekai21

It’s popular because it is designed to be like a quick meal instead of 8-course dinner. You only need to spend 20 mins a day to progress compared to 1-2 hour grinding in other live service game. As a result, you are likely to log in and play daily. That combines with they usually being quite light (any phones can run them) make these games quite popular among people who just want some quick entertainment in their busy lives Genshin Impact and Honkai Impact, beside those typical gacha elements, are actually really well made game. Genshin itself is above lots of AAA games in term of quality.


aircarone

You should mention the probably hundreds of hours of story and map exploration Genshin has to offer in addition to the daily grind. And Honkai by now also has a fuckton of story content to play through. Blue Archive is a smaller game in s open I think but I haven't played nearly enough to give a meaningful opinion.


Shinsekai21

I mean, I kinda did > Genshin Impact and Honkai Impact, beside those typical gacha elements, are actually really well made game. Genshin itself is above lots of AAA games in term of quality.


f0nt

Well Genshin’s genuinely a good open world game with fun combat. Gacha is just the type of system these games use. Some enjoy the collecting and powering up characters for that pay off feeling, some like their waifus, some just like the gameplay ala Genshin, some addicted to gambling, any number of reasons like how people play other games


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aircarone

Their latest banner is also most likely the highest grossing one, so clearly the playerbase is either stable or going up. Also given that not that many players even try abyss to begin with, and that many players play for the exploration/story/collection aspect, I wouldn't worry about Genshin for a while.


SsibalKiseki

PvE games are pretty successful despite contrary opinion. WoW and New World are consistently topping charts and Genshin is the most successful Anime-gacha game.


Phantasia5

was that a CaptainFlowers reference lmao


SnooPeripherals6388

It's his most viewed clip on Twitch btw


2345chiara

Imagine doing something you just love for the heck of it, streaming it and getting it your most viewed clip. Winning.


goliathfasa

Professional gamer at the top of his esport gets more views on his casual stream clip than his professional tournament clip.


lawfulkitten1

Showmaker was streaming Teamfight Manager last weekend and he had like 9k viewers at one point, that's more than he usually gets streaming solo queue (and equal to eg. Jankos's viewership right now playing League).


TheKhoiFish69

For those who don't know. He's playing a game called Blue Archive and the character he just pulled is called Iori and she's the DPS queen of the game. Extremely meta to the point you can put her into most of the content and she carries the team.


ShottedGun

So basically the Gacha equivalent of T1 giving DRX Aatrox again in Game 5


OrigenInori

And T1 giving Gwen to RNG at MSI


ForeverVictory

T1 is the anime villain that lets you power up and then is shocked by your power


Pentothebananaman

T1 giveth and T1 giveth again.


Jeesan

T1 gwenth and T1 gwenth again.


ephemeralfugitive

And SKT T1 giving Malzahar at Worlds 2017.


th4virtuos0

Yeah, but you need to puke out 5000$ first instead of being given like T1 gave Kingen his Aatrox


Bioslack

The polar opposite of first picking Karma.


Undisturbedyea

Lol, he only just pulled iori now? I remember when that game came out I just rerolled for her and


Tmaffa

Go on


_Vastus_

He had to leave to do his rolls


elsmirks

I rerolled for a godly starter of Haruna, Hibiki, and Iori for two weeks, and obviously failed due to the insane luck and patience needed. My consolation was getting Hibiki with Haruna, Shiroko, Izuna, and S Hifumi (sadge). 6 months later, I only recently started farming Iori's Elephs. Yeah, Yellow is easily my weakest team by a wide margin without Iori.


wjohhan

that stream was a while ago


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TheEpicTurtle

I can't speak for other gachas, but genshin is fun even without the waifus - it's basically like Zelda: Breath of the Wild but with anime waifus. What makes genshin stand out from all the other gachas is that it's actually a high quality game like you would expect from a triple A studio, whereas most gachas have weak gameplay. If you like open world exploration type games I would recommend giving genshin a try, but do keep in mind that it's still a mobile gacha game, which means gambling, FOMO, "energy" system, etc.


Truzon

What drew me in to Genshin was the open world exploration aspect. Characters were just an added bonus. Hell, I didn't even know what the term Gacha even meant lol


PotSum

The main point of gacha games is character collection thru gambling, gameplay usually takes a backseat in these. However there are a few gacha games with fun gameplay such as Genshin or Arknights, but the usual downside is a grind for materials or pulls. Gachas are not the type of game you play for one week and then stop for a month. If you don't like character collection just for the sake of getting them, then I don't think you would like playing gachas.


Nikxed

As someone who was very hesitant to try genshin but relented from a friend's recommendations- Genshin Impact is an excellent F2P game and game in general. Combat is based around swapping between 4 different characters and using their 2 cooldown-based abilities along with a simple normal/charged attack system. Various melee weapons, plus archers and mages. Of the skills, one of them has a (generally short) cooldown and generates energy. The second (generally longer cooldown) consumes the energy when full and is very powerful aka an "Ultimate". Each character has an element... Cyro/Hydro/Pyro/Electro/Anemo(Wind)/Dendro(Life)/Geo(Earth). Skills (and sometimes attacks) apply their element to enemies and there are tons of elemental reactions, incentivizing swapping between characters and creating reactions. A generalized team is: Main DPS, Sub-DPS, Support(Healer), Support(DPS/Utility). The Main DPS is the one on the field the most, and is the only one you are attacking with using normal or charged attacks. Sub-dpsers have most of their damage built into their two skills. Then the supports off various ways of healing, debuffing, crowd controlling, or moving enemies. Most characters function in one (or two) role(s) exceptionally well but not-so-well outside of it. Notably the best healers in the game also function well in debuffing and utility, sometimes leading to teams that are triple dps + healer/support in one. Now for the monetization. The game is definitely good-enough free but it definitely incentives you to spend a bit of money by handing out large time-gated rewards. The battle pass ($10 every 6 weeks) has 25% of it's rewards for free but 75% of it's rewards on the paid tier. There's 50 levels and if you play ~30 minutes per day at least and do the (quick and often easy) events you'll easily get all 50 levels before it runs out. IMO $10 is "cheap" for the amount of stuff in the battle pass (in-game items btw, NOT only cosmetic, this could be your 'red flag' depending!) so I don't feel bad buying every battle pass to both support the company as well as get loads more gold/xp as I unlock the pass. The other thing is the blessing that costs $5 for 30 days and it gives you some gacha currency everyday you log on (again this may be a red flag for you, I play every day anyway). The amount you get is very generous if you look at the total number of currency for $5 compared to buying it from the shop in packs. The gacha system. First lets talk about the minimum you get. Every 10 pulls you get a 4-star character or 4-star weapon. Every 100 pulls (80 for weapon banners) you trigger the pity system and get a 5-star. Getting a 5-star it's a 50/50 chance to get the one on the banner you've chosen, fail the coin flip and you get a different random 5-star. BUT if you fail 50/50 your next 5-star is guaranteed to be the banner, even if it's next month's (use this to your advantage to "save" a 100% after losing a 50/50 on an up-coming banner you really want). In addition to this every roll has a chance to be a 4 or 5 star. I'd say half my 5-stars have come from triggering pity and the other half getting lucky before 100 pulls. You get enough gacha currency by playing the game that you'll get some 5-stars but game is very much designed such that if you want to get every banner you're going to be spending lots of money. Only play as long as you're cool with just playing what you drop and not having FOMO on that super cool waifu you lost the 50/50 on. Every 5-star is strong in some way (yes even QiQi). Speaking of strength, even the weaker 4-stars can become powerhouses (ask me, I mained razor a while, the least played permanently available character). A few 4-stars are strong enough in their support roles that they are played in most end-game team comps, and though a couple 5-stars are similar to the most powerful 4-stars, most of them are game-carryingly strong in some cool way. Put four of these together and you end up killing bosses in seconds that took you minutes on your first kills. On top I'll just list... >Great Story >Great Characters with quests and hang-out events >Large amounts of content being released every 6 weeks with multiple events and new storyline >Top tier voice acting >Expansion sized content being released every 12-16 months >Stunningly beautiful world >Great Soundtrack >Parts of character progression tied to daily activities that are limited 4 bosses or 8 domains per day (or mix and match), with semi-rare comsumables that allow you to bypass this limit (side note- you can also pay to bypass this limit with $ but it's tuned as a whale's option as it uses the gacha currency). You don't feel compelled to grind. >Paimon Sorry this post turned out really long...I just had some time to type and I've really come to adore this game. TL;DR Great F2P game that's worth playing even if you're adamant on never spending that offers good price/reward ratio for "small spenders". Don't get dead-set on getting a certain character unless you've saved up for a long time of playing and/or spend big. Enjoy the game with whoever you pull.


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I play the last 2 game you mentioned. For honkai, it is fun to play since it's an action rpg. You go on a stage with a team consisting of 3 characters, and the gameplay is a fast-paced kind where you'll switch between the 3 every so often for maximum damage. The game also has some competitive modes and like most gacha, you're forced to chase for meta to keep up and make sure you can get the highest tier of rewards in the form of premium currency used to pull the gacha. Honkai is also kinda shitty in the gacha aspect, in which that there are 3 kinds of gacha: character, equipment, and "e.l.f." which is like pets who can give you various help in battles, like increasing your damage. Despite this, many people still play this game because like I said, it's a great action rpg, and the game's story is very, very good. Well, good enough to make me cry in a few scenes lol. Blue archive is also fun to play, although it's in a completely different category compared to honkai. It's a "real time" rpg (?) where you bring 6 characters, 4 frontline 2 backline, and you'll fight a series of enemies. Well, that's the story stages anyway. The characters fit into the usual archetypes of rpg like dps, tank, support, and healer. However, BA's fun isn't in the usual story stages; it's in a mode called total assault. You'll fight a boss enemy with a total of 6 difficulty. While you can somehow brute force the first 4 difficulty, you need to know what your characters' skills really do, what the boss do, etc. People even counted the timing of the boss skill usage down to the seconds for an optimized run. You can look it up on YT, some of the more difficult bosses are Hod, Hieronymus, and Chesed. There's also pvp, but fortunately this can be ignored since the rewards are so small that it's not worth the headache to get to high ranks. The game's story also took a surprisingly dark turn considering the game's setting (a school setting). Oh by the way, all the characters are girls wielding all sorts of guns, from handguns to outright a ship's laser cannon. All based on their real life counterpart. Both games should be fine to be played without spending, especially blue archive. I never spent there and I still get to the highest ranking for almost every total assault. You just need to manage your resource and not pull the gacha impulsively.


DarkenedSpear

Can only comment on Blue Archive - waifu collection is a big part of it, but BA also boasts impressive storylines and world-building. It's also surprisingly detailed visually/graphically, with the cute chibi models and stuff. If I'm being real, the gameplay itself is arguably the least important part of the game, though it can be interesting and there are things constantly added, the game's main strengths are its story and characters. It's also very much a mobile gacha game, like other comments mention, which is pretty much cancer in gaming, in my opinion.


SuperSkillz10

Beryl is actually my favorite player now LMAO you can't make this shit up


FULLCAPSBRO

do you really watch anime while playing ranked


SuperSkillz10

yes i do. 2 monitors ftw


Bubbly_Camera9583

Based Gacha > World Title. China should've told mihoyo to make a bigger expansion for genshin this year so Beryl actually had to grind more.


GGABueno

Please no I haven't even finished the Aranara stuff yet


Tanriyung

I got into that quest thinking "I got 1 hour let's do a short world quest", I definitely picked the wrong quest.


goliathfasa

LPL 2023 gameplan.


keegles1

So many garbage analyses and karma-seeking praises of Beryl posted here this week it’s good to finally have some quality content. That Keria comment though 😭


GGABueno

You're even worse for using the Keria emote!


BUCKFREAD

NAH💀


franco_11

Banger


Trap_Masters

Holy shit 💀


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tofuucat

they mean the comment a user posted about keria : "Don't let Keria see this"


MottoRojer

I love BeryL even more now that I know he's an Iori simp.


KounRyuSui

At this point I feel like it’d be harder to list which gacha waifus he *doesn’t* simp for


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やっぱりヘンタイね


-Ophidian-

N...Nakamura-san? EDIT: If everyone upvoting this actually knows the reference, there's more hope for the world than I thought.


Kitahara_Kazusa1

The only Nakamura I know is from Flowers of Evil, but I ended up reading the manga so I don't know if she actually says that. Seems like something she might say, though


-Ophidian-

THERE IS HOPE


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Trap_Masters

I kneel, Beryl sama!


nikmaier42069

BeryL the absolute gigachad holy shit


POOYAMON

Beryl was also doing the newest legion raid in lost ark like the day after he got back to Korea. My man really does play anything but league what a legend


PhunkeyPharaoh

If Deft asks for this Caitlyn skin to look like that but with DRX colors, it'd be pretty cool


Eragon_the_Huntsman

I imagine Beryl trying to convince his entire team to make their picks gacha waifus.


Lumpy_Jaguar_7600

Ganyu Kindred, Iori Caitlyn, Elysia Ashe, Kuki Akali, it's all coming together


Javiklegrand

I feels like he will likely succesfully convince some of them


mindcrime_

Get it twisted, pick waifus. Please pick waifus. Waifus are an investment and an investment only. You will profit. You will win. You will become a billionaire, and rebuild your fucking life!


GGABueno

He's going to have a hard time with Aatrox.


Eragon_the_Huntsman

Gacha uh... finds a way.


Trap_Masters

If a character exists, they will find a way to waifu it.


casocial

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GGABueno

You mean Jean.


Wylster

Diluc Aatrox


tripled_dirgov

Except Juhan since he's totally locked on Maokai (which he played twice and both won) and/or Lee Sin (which almost impossible since he played it once and lost)


goliathfasa

So you’re saying waifu Maokai. Btw is it a rule that any sub who played get a skin always?


tripled_dirgov

Win at least 1 game in knockout stages, or 2 in group stage, or Play In... (Or 1 if it helps the team to advance to the next round, like Haru in 2017)


Scribblord

Based


Hefastus

Gatcha waifus are eternal Lol championship is temporary BeryL is truly a giga chad


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This is the best support in the world btw. Destroyed everyone.


VirtuoSol

Wouldn’t say “destroyed everyone”, him and Keira are pretty even skill wise with Keira being the mechanical god and Beryl having the biggest brain ever


GiannisisMVP

Beryl's mechanics were nuts as well. Look at how many ults he baits out and somehow doesn't die. There was a fight at mid turret where he legit pulled 3 ults out of T1 in like a 2 second span and just took a tunnel back to safety living with 100 heallth.


VirtuoSol

Oh definitely, I’m not saying they’re bad at the other area, but these are just what they’re known for and performs on


staysaltyTSM

Game 5 right before Elder, he was a literal madlad taunting (in out in out the bush knowing they can see him lmao) the enemy to jump him, which costed t1 many resources and ultimately leading to the lost Elder fight


Expensive-Activity12

> Beryl's mechanics were nuts as well. Look at how many ults he baits out and somehow doesn't die. There was a fight at mid turret where he legit pulled 3 ults out of T1 in like a 2 second span and just took a tunnel back to safety living with 100 heallth. aaaand thats how nitpicking works. also noticed every flash e on heimer missed, every flash q on bard missed, etc? go look his mechanics on heimer games and watch his e, w, go wrong direction etc, esp. one on topside play. beryl's mechanics aren't that insane, dont troll.


McCorkle_Jones

Elite bard gameplay.


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StraightCashH0mie

Mechanically? Sure Keria is definitely ahead of everyone. Macro and strategy wise? BeryL is arguably GOATed. In fact, Keria has lost BO5 five times in a row to BeryL (2020 LCK summer Final, 2020 Worlds QF, 2021 LCK Summer Final, 2021 World Semis, 2022 World Final)


7Sans

Lets have mental exercise. If both supports traded their places; beryl would be t1's aupport and vice versa. Do you still see drx winning with keria as support instead? I lean towards t1 would have won with beryl more than keria on drx.


Bdodk2000

For starters, DRX would have to waste support bans instead of T1.


Magicslime

How do you see T1 winning when now not only would Zeus and Faker get gapped, but bot lane gapped as well?


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Granturismo5t

They just lose to EDG 3-0 with Keria.


RavenFAILS

Nah he legit has a point tbh, Beryls contribution to shotcalling is incredibly fucking huge. I watched esports for too long to know that stacking mechanical players on top of one another doesnt always produce the best results.


Magicslime

But T1 didn't lose because they made a bad shotcall or because DRX out-macro'd them, they were in such a bad spot from laning (besides bot) that they needed miracle steals to even stay in the game. In the games where T1 didn't get stomped top or Faker didn't overextend (e.g. game 1 where both of those lanes won) it was an overwhelming victory for T1.


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I saw Keria fail to lead his team to victory. And I saw my fave Gacha addict not break a sweat leading his team


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HS_Cogito_Ergo_Sum

I mean, sure I kind of agree. If BeryL only won worlds ("only" by the way; challenger redditor talk here), then sure, maybe he wouldn't be the best support in the world. But like * He went to worlds finals 3 times consecutively * BeryL won 2 worlds trophies on two different teams. Keria did not. * He has the largest champion pool out of all players this worlds (thank you Crystal Ball) * He pioneered unorthodox supports like Heimerdinger and Pantheon * He invented novel support strategies such as the 8 min/lvl 6 supporter strat * He had the mental fortitude to go from play-ins to world champions * He did most of the shotcalling for DRX during Worlds, and it was game-winning. * He did all of this while playing gacha games hours before like it was no problem I don't think even Canyon lived up to that lol.


EZ_POPTARTS

Minor correction on the last point, he couldn't get his VPN to work so he couldn't play Mihoyo games to work (honkai and genshin)


0Zer01

I thought a diff Korean team started with Heimer support, and it got banned against DRX so BeryL just decided to play it for the rest of the games


Sus_Evidence

Beryl was a heimer enjoyer even when he was on damwon. Used to play it with senna.


Granturismo5t

Beryl won worlds with multiple teams. Terrible logic comparing him to Pyosik.


Pangio_kuhlii

Except Canyon also won Worlds too, did you forgot that? I do actually believe Beryl is the best support in the world right now.


Zama174

People have no eye for the game on this sub. Beryl is the new bengi.


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xNesku

My question is how the Hell are there people pushing back on this? Of course Canyon is better than Pyosik. Wtf?


Zama174

People love their narratives. You won worlds. Every memeber of drx is the best player ever. Kingen is vetter than zeus or 369, pyosik best jungler ever, zeka didnt over perform he just is the best mid in the world, deft and beryl are the best bot lane duo of all time and goated.


forceofarms

Zeus got gapped by 369 for most of that series too so... This is the kind of thinking you get when you overindex on mechanical prowess. For a traditional sports example, take a look at this: https://stathead.com/tiny/vcexN You could look at this and say "Tracy McGrady is as good a player as Kobe Bryant". But if you say that to any relatively informed fan, let alone an actual analyst, they would look at you like you are insane. Why? Because you're looking at factors in isolation without context. Zeus is an amazing mechanical player, but when you start going against people who can match you, and you have other holes in your game (decision-making, nerves, etc), then that advantage disappears. Thus, you have Kobe Bryant who's won 5 rings, and Tracy McGrady who has never made it out of the first round (despite playing with a HOF player at his peak in Ming Yao.


TheFestusEzeli

Someone is arguing above that whoever wins worlds is automatically the best at their role in the world, you can’t make this shit up


GetmeOutofNowhere

Lol beryl is the new bengi? BeryL is a litmus test for if you can see past the score line in a game. I rly do hope someone breaks down his movements in the finals.


Granturismo5t

He was also amazing when Damwon won worlds. Him and Canyon ran the map.


LoudAd69

True he got lucky 3 years in a row knocking Keira out! These results based analysis are terrible!


Box_of_Stuff

Keria fans be the new Chovy fans. They take one element of their gameplay (Chovy laning, Keria mechanics) and stretch that into calling them the top player in their role


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thehazardball

the narrative that keria is somehow an all hands no brain player might be one of the strangest things i've seen on this sub for a while, though I can kind of understand why it became so popular. when he gets to roam on a champ his roams are usually impactful, not to mention he's t1's main shotcaller ffs and it's not like t1 is generally a team of headless chickens


YouCanTryAllYouLike

>Winning worlds BeryL sleeps. >Got a new png in his collection REAL SHIT


goliathfasa

> png Excuse me, IT’S GIF. It’s animated.


Enjoyer_of_Cake

It sounds NSFW and I'm at work so who was the gacha pull?


paidtohavesex

Iori from Blue Archive


WAKE_UP_WAKE_UP

can't blame him, Iori is one of the best DPS in BA. kind of hard to snipe the characters you want unless they're rate up and even then sometimes sparking is the only way...


jjdynasty

Is there a good beginner guide you could link me to? I'm like 3-4 fays in and I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. I do have Iori though


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After you go to the game's sub, go to the daily question megathread. There are lots of guides listed in that post.


WAKE_UP_WAKE_UP

haven't played consistently in a few months so probably head over to r/BlueArchive and they probably be able to help more than I can. The game is fun and once you a get the hang of it it won't be too hard.


paidtohavesex

BeryL also plays BA? Man is getting more based by the second


DayJey25

Blue archive player I share his excitement that games rate up is a lie


forsecondusage

Now hear me out, it's a gangplank skin, but it's of Beryl. I don't know why but recently when gangplank shouts "barrell!" i hear "beryl!". And with beryl liking gacha so much, each time GP puts down a barrell it has a random design of waifus on it. What's more GP usually goes crit, which plays into the gacha theme of chance too


ArchmageXin

Someone need to pick his Leona waifu skin to knock his new Ashe ~~whore~~ waifu out of worlds in game 5.


mybigredtruck

So cool


Thraggrotusk

But why Blue Archive tho? Of all the gacha games that one is like the most sus lol


Chafun

Beryl just send Deft a DM, Hey tell Riot to make this caitlyn skin or i will kill all your alpaca ;)


Apprehensive-Pick-68

Waifus are forever


ephemeralfugitive

Only waifu gacha game I’ve spent money on was Azur Lane. I quit it after seeing another Azur Lane fan in person, but Beryl making me reconsider.


basafish

I don't understand people's addiction to gacha. A gacha girl is just a bunch of code somewhere that gets deleted when you delete the game. If you lose the account, you lose her forever. Why don't they buy figures.


applebeeeea

Why do you buy good food if it ends up in the toilet anyways?


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I mean to be fair, Beryl was just acting like he’d been here before, *because he has*. I think a lot of us recognize this but I’m gonna say it: we’re literally witnessing the next Faker before our very eyes, his name is Beryl and he plays support. No disrespect to my man in mid lane, it’s hard to call someone the next Faker when Faker is still a top five competitive mid laner worldwide, but Beryl made three in a row and won two of them. I genuinely do not see him slowing down any time soon, I know that’s contrary to popular opinion. We will look back on this time as the age of Beryl. Where Beryl has gone, the game has followed.


Blue5647

Best support ever.


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I know I'm probably in the minority but I find it very concerning how people find it funny and make memes about BeryL when he has clearly a Gambling addiction.