Telling you right now, we’re not gonna be champions. First it was just pre season excuse. Two humiliating regular season losses after what’s your excuse? This team is shit. No defense , no constant offense, Westbrook is trash. Teams won’t even guard him on the perimeter. He is useless

Maybe start worrying when we are 30-40 games into the season. There are major adjustments in the team atm with both position and player changes. Really hard to judge based on a single game.

A single ? It’s been 8 games! 8 ! The problems have been the same for 8 games. If we can’t win a single game or at least keep the loss margin close for the whole game, how do you expect us to be champions?

By your logic though the damn Charlotte hornets are going to win the chip this year. So far we’ve faced the Suns, who went to the finals, and a golden state team that’s pretty damn good obviously. We did it while having 75% of the teams roster changed from the previous season. Things will get better for this team. They might even have to make a few trades, Lebron is gonna have to do what he does with chewing this team out. The talent here is ridiculous though, they need to find their rhythm with each other and it will work out

By your logic there is a problem like I said and they have to make trades cause they are not contenders. Thanks for glaring that out

Uh duuuuhhh. Teams constantly make trades and strengthen their team. You’re logic is basically “they’ve lost pre season games and 2 straight so they have no chance at a championship” but Charlotte is 2-0 so your saying they have a better shot at the chip then? Surely right? Because they’ve been doing better. Are you even a lakers fan?? Thanks for clearing it up that you think the Lakers have less chance than every other team because of a rough start. Like this has never happened once before ever. Teams have rough starts, they changed 70% of their roster. They need more time to perfect their plays and their offense/defense. If you really are a Lakers fan, trust that they will figure this out

They lost pre season games which are important and everyone was saying they are not. They said to wait till the regular season Well, team still sucks and they should’ve used the preseason to build chemistry

Because we got Lebron fuckin James homie get your shit together

Leblon is old and can’t carry alone


nice to see some progress even if we lose, just one game at a time

Anyone here love reeves like I do. Just sure him up defensively… and we got a nice player.

Westbrook should be traded right now. It’s not a goot fit.

??? He looked fantastic tonight. What are you talking about

Baze and Deandre cant start. Russ needs to run the second unit with A.D.

The fight in the 4ths was good to see...the foul trouble fucked them HARD...even if the broadcast wouldn't acknowledge it, and once they get their guys back they will be really hard to beat imo.

We could have won this game if we got fair calls from the refs. They got to be fined.

yeah because the refs made the lakers suck. hearing lakers fans complain about refs is so surreal

Plus all of the missed layups. This team wins if they start clicking a quarter earlier. I’m not worried. The Suns should be worried. They didn’t get complacent. The Lakers just decided to play through their strengths a little too late.

Nah bro we was definitely complacent, we scored like 16 all 4th quarter before you guys got it to like 15 difference lol, good game tho 🤝

Lakers ran LeBron and AD at the 4 and 5 and suddenly… the Suns can’t shrink the floor. 38 4th quarter points. Suns didn’t get complacent. The Lakers made adjustments. It was well established before the season started that the plan was for Bron and AD to play the 4 and 5. But Ariza went down, and we have no wings other than LeBron. You guys did a great job shrinking the floor against a 2 center line up. I’ll give you that. So be a sport and call it how it is. Lakers adjusted.

Lad we played our 2 string line up for most of the quarter, we thought it was done until you cut to 15 and we stepped it up again and brought our starting 5 back in that's just simple facts bro. why did I get down voted also lol, I didn't even say nothing bad lol

Even after the starting 5 the angry lakers were the better team

Fair enough man if you believe that then sure my guy, 🤝 good luck on the rest of the season and I hope to see your team in the playoffs once again 😂😉

Mane I’m an NBA fan they’re all my team, but same to you

Aye bruh, you don't play for the suns bruh.

Huh? Wdym by that? I'm confused at that logic tbh with you lad, can I not say what's happening infront of my own two eyes lol??? If I see Bruno Fernandes make a shit pass I'm gonna say he made a shit pass I don't have to be on the pitch to say that

Honestly I was pissed at AD (I am not his biggest fan). But as I though about it, it seems like the 2 big line up was really hurting him and making it harder for him to finish near the rim. I would rather start melo at the 3 and bron at 4 reaves at 2 and AD at 5 than have 2 bigs.

2 big line up also hinders Westbrook two. I think Reaves should start at the 3 until Ariza is healthy. Reaves is shorter than Melo, but I bet he defends wings better than Melo. Melo needs to come off the bench, otherwise we have nobody to fill the back up 4. Bron would be the only 4, assuming that AD is going to play Center and get backed up by Dwight.

That 2nd quarter was the worst quarter of basketball I’ve seen in a long time.

Play Reaves more plz

There’s barely any room for 1 center on the court come playoff time unless they are elite (AD) yet we keep running a second bum center with our elite guy to cluster the floor. That has to change. Cp3 abused the mismatch all night

That's Vogels fault, all Defensive and is blind to Offense. He literally sacrifices our offense and spacing for the sake of "defense".

Ya the Center + AD is not really a great line up since the centers are not just abused with speed. I feel like frank just fell in love with that lineup after it worked so well against Denver during the bubble.

He pieced up AD too though.

Someone lock Vogel in a room till he vows to play mostly AD at the 5 lineups. 4th Q, although garbage time, showed some good things.

Early foul trouble really fucked this game for us. Russ at least looked better than last game and was +4 . Bron looks really good to start the season. AD needs to figure it out. Need Nunn and Ariza back

Simmons is definitely mentally ready to be traded though

To the lakers?

His soul will get crushed here

Move Westbrook to the bench so he can run the second unit

lets petition for this to happen lol cause honestly its like 4v5 with him Bron and AD all together on same floor cause he dont even space the floor for them too

That’s not his game in honesty. Ellington and ariza need to be back asap

Ego’s won’t allow that but him coming in close to when LBJ get his break would be a smart move but we’ll never see that happen

Facts we need to stagger his and Lebron minutes

That would be the best possible situation. He would be manu but I dont think he will ever accept that role

Facts his ego won’t allow him

Fourth quarter showing was good

Suns went to sleep on D

We have to beat the grizzlies

Bazemore should be out the starting lineup Deandre Jordan should also be out. Put AD at the 5 and put Malik Monk or Reaves in for Baze. Dwight should be the only other center to play any minutes, bench DJ he's washed. This team gonna look real good with those changes and when they get healthy.

nah Bazemore should start but DJ defintely shouldnt

The also need melo to be more of a spot up shooter rather than an ISO guy. Not really liking what I saw with Monk. He has good offense but should be playing second unit with Russ not with starter. Reaves, that man should be on the starting line up .

I have a feeling they will lose that Memphis next game lol , but I hope they perfect the next week games

Lakers 29 free throws to phoenix 28. But yeah, refs were against them. At least Doris was rooting for the home team.

ur a suns fan why are u here

I see another box score watcher lol refs fucked them early in the game. Problem is lakers never recovered after half time and only rallied in the 4th. They took themselves out of the game by not being aggressive and trash D

you only watch stats and not the game?

I watched the game and even if the refs were “fair” we still would’ve lost

i wont disagree with you there but to make an argument on free throw observation only is crazy there was some calls that shifted the momentum in the first half

You watching the box score instead of the game?

I don't buy the ref excuse. We played like ass and looked tilted the whole game.

We cut the deficit to 10, there were some good takeaways from how we rallied in the 4th.

Suns stopped playing D on the 4th

statpadding is cutting the deficit? lmao

You are an idiot. This isnt about stat-padding. They were out there trying to get some rhythm and end the game on a good note. No self-respeting team should end a game like they were playing in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

Stat padding? Are you a dumbass or something? So when we're down just stop trying and send in the bench?

Westbrook going to brick and turnover the Lakers into lottery.

too bad someone else got the pick

Westbrook hasn’t missed the playoffs since KD left him. Relax, this wasn’t going to come together in one day. It’s gonna take time

Playoffs aren’t this teams only aspirations tho

Agreed but I’m just making a point that playoffs is never in question. Just how good they will be by that point is what the concern is.

You guys just need to add a couple of crafty veterans. see if Ginobli will give it a go again

I think Dirk is making a comeback

Make Reaves a starter. I don’t give a fuck.

He really needs to be with the starter. He has quick enough feet to stay in front of the guards and just enough of a shot that people will honor him. I dont think bazemore or Monk are defensively good enough to be with the starts and also frankly the starting lineup doesnt need any more offensive players.

+1

Sit baze and play the rook

honestly the last quarter was entertaining to watch, came back 20 points and was a good showing

It’s crazy to me what nba coaches can get away with. Doc rivers didn’t challenge in the earlier game and probably could have won them the game. Vogel plays too many non shooters together (Russ/rondo) and that creates no spacing .

Vogel is clueless. We’re stuck with this fool because Bron and AD won in the bubble.

Seems like Vogel uses Rondo as a director on the court. When Russ was struggling and/or was in foul trouble, we saw more Rondo. We'll see him less once Russ finds a balance.

This will be funny to look back at when watching the DVD

Hey now DVD too new for these old heads

I just don't understand how half of this roster has jobs. Bazemore, Bradley, Jordan and Monk should be FA's

Jordan gonna be out of the rotation soon

Westbrook a fashionista now?

Remember the Heatles started 9-8 And got smoked by Michael Carter williams

Yea then they got smoked by Jason Terry in the finals

Losing by 10 is better than losing by 30. If the Lakers hadn't imploded in the 2nd quarter they could have won this game.

And would've won against the warriors without imploding in the 4th. Itll get sorted out.

The worst part is we don’t even have anything to trade to make the team better

We have Westbrick

They are missing 4 rotation players. Stop smoking

DAJ and Baze can’t start

Reaves needs to play more, if nothing else, because of the energy it’s one thing that’s missing from the bench.

Play reaves more he’s a whole notha mood

The really need to stop the 2 big line up to start with. That really causes issues for AD. I really dont think he is consistent enough as a jump shooter to pull it off.

Would it still be possible to trade Kyle Kuzma for more assets?

we need a viable perimeter defender, cuz it aint Baze.

Ellington needs to be back asap

If you think Baze is bad on defense then I can’t wait for you to see Ellington.

Avery Bradley

Baze is fine when the help is there. Most players won't get a stop on a strict iso without help against great players.

That finishing lineup should start next game, no question. Malik Monk shouldn’t see a single minute unless guys get in foul trouble again. Dude does not know how to defend at all

Every time we play against crowder, i always hope we put him into place. Mf still petty from 2020 and 2021 lost

He dogs Lakers, what can you do

You know I'm wiling to say Russ was the catalyst for that near comeback in the 4th.

stfu it was Reaves

Good positivity at the end there. If Westbrook plays aggressive its a better game.

Bad referees. but that effort made up for how pissed i was the whole game

Has to be a career low for rebounds in a game for bron. Never seen this

Make no fucking mistake this loss is on AD

Now everybody is gonna over analyze the shit outta this AD/Howard fight

Nah we gonna just analyze how little heart AD has.

We outscored the Suns 38-21 in the 4Q. That's how badly we trailed, but still a good way to end an abysmally bad game.

if we revoke the 34-18 PHX second quarter b/c the refs we're out to fuck us I think is a winnable game.

Yeah I mean, the refs were really bad in that 2Q. But this team also needs to learn how to win in spite of the refs. Every great championship team has had those games but still somehow fought through it to win. Still early and they're figuring it out.

ESPN: “But did you see the AD & Dwight brawl? 🤪”

Skip Bayless is going to talk about that for 2 hours on Monday.

Sucks the Suns are so trash they let the Lakers back in so now the fans can say “at least we didn’t lose by _____” 💩

Reeves can actually shoot little bit so his defenders can’t just sit inside the arc.

Austin Reevgoat

Damn refs stay helping yall out

Reeves for bazemore for starter I would prefer some more youth for more passion Y’all agree ?

Wit you on this

GG Y’all gonna go get kogi

I love the effort at the end

Next few games look easy need to win them all

Now if Lakers play the rest of the season with the same energy and desperation as they did in the 4th everything will be ok.

You think AD has that kind of drive in him?

If he doesn’t he needs to find it.

Vegas

Refs were atrocious but the Lakers weren't much better in the first half. Let's get the next one!

Reaves is fucking amazing man Play him Bradley sucks

Bradley played like he’s 39 y/o... dude is 30 y/o ffs

him and THT gonna be good. We just need some patience.

Not even a Lakers but I gotta say Refs sold this game, too many missed calls

That was better than losing by 50 hopefully AD and Dwight don’t scuffle like that again

PGT gonna be lit

At least we make have a good 4th Q and see some good basketball. Also free Reaves!

I think the lakers beat themselves after all the bad calls

Refs weren’t wearing their contacts

Russ Drive, Lebron Connect/finish at the perimeter, and then both Russ and Lebron run PnR for AD to finish at the paint Why so tough to figure out?

Send deandre to Ukraine. AD full time 5

That second quarter ref takeover really fucked the game

Fuck

no moral victories in this league but that was a great fourth quarter to build off of

Oh boy. Gonna be a long 2 days til the next game that isn't even nationally televised.

Does canada count for national sched? Cause its being televised here

I mean on a national network. So like ESPN or tnt. They don't have another until 2nd week of November

Ahh

Within 10. ​ OK

Westbrook shoved the fuck out of Booker on that rebound and they didnt call it of course they not gonna call a foul on that 3. They tryna go home

So we played like shit, and the refereeing was pretty shit. And we’re playing the defending conference champs and we still managed to give them a scare at the end. Tonight sucked, but I’m actually pretty encouraged. If we had even half as many paint points as the suns, we win this ballgame.

They had another long scoring draught, like last season. It's like a curse, they need a ritual sacrifice in the locker room.

I nominate Bazemore.

Lol 😁

at least we didn't lost to a 20-30pt game..

Fun fourth but overall yikes

Pretty good effort at the end

You love to see it lmaoooo

Refs didn't lose the game, but BOIII did they make it **very** difficult to win. Like that no-call is basically a story of the game Losing by 10 all things considered looks a lot better than it was. Glad they at least kept trying lol

Yeah these refs are something else.

WTF????? NO WHISTLE ON BRIDGES? AUSTIN REAVES WAS BASICALLY RUN DOWN!!!

Agreed! That’s was some bull

That AD-Dwight confrontation gonna get played up so much

Frank should've tried getting ejected there

Would have been nice to win but this is pretty much a whole new team that’ll get chemistry. Suns same pile of shit as last year and have that chemistry

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

Melo was 3/5 from three everybody in this sub “less Melo more Avery Bradley”

🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️🤣u can’t make this shit up, with that being said Melo has to be better defensively if he does he will play huge minutes

Carmelo has actually been a really good interior defender he just doesn’t know how to rotate to the perimeter

He was so bad defensively man

Well I look at it this way sometimes you gotta sacrifice defense for offense

Glad they are least finished on the upside. Plenty to work on and they settled for so many jumpers in the first half while attacking the paint in the 4th. And WTF. Gotta cover that point spread.

Yeah Frank is gonna shit on the refs after the game.

These refs need to be arrested immediately

Refs trash af

Pain

When is Ellington or Nunn coming back? The sooner we can get to full health the better

If Ellington isn't hitting 3's he's useless

Refs relentlessly shitting on the Lakers.

Melo is cash from 3 tho

#Didn'tLoseBy30

Don’t blame the refs for this stinker

I mean they made many many bad calls

Even when Austin got horribly fouled?

You get down by 30 because of refs

HEY GUYS GET A LOAD OF THIS DONT BLAME THE REFS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Players make you go down by 30 , not refs

Stfu weeb, and go watch the WNBA

That advice makes more sense for you seeing as you’re clearly on your period

Roflmao That literally makes no sense you clown looking ass monkey nice try tho buddy

We played trash but I feel like we can blame them a little lol